my new HK USP compact from classic firearms Ain't she a

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>that flier

Baka

I thought the ones on Classic Firearms were LEM models?

>>33176146
It is an lem.

I like it so far from dry firing. Super nice reset from what I expected.

>>33176158
Huh, I didn't think they'd keep the safety/decocker on LEM models.

>>33176193
Yep it's a bit of an interesting combination. Some euro police agency ordered them as such and didn't go through so that's why cf got them I heard.

>>33176215
Good for you, I guess. Oh, and the RFID chip should be in the magwell near the bottom.

>>33176335
I looked and didn't see it do I have to remove the mainspring

>>33176413
No, you shouldn't.

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>>33176115
Niice bru, mine came in today as well.

Never seen a LEM with a safety before, pretty Neat-O

How much were the ones on classic going for?

>>33176785
Post your target mang I want to see how mine compares to yours

>>33176470
Don't thing I have it then I'll have to check when I get home

>>33176846
550 before shipping.

>>33176785
Oh did you not get the extended mag plates with your gun either? My gun had 2 flat base mags, manual, target and nothing else besides a silica gel packet.

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>>33176882
My target looks nice and tight.

>>33176899
I didn't realize it came with extended base plates? Shows how well I read.

>>33176980
Wow I'm fucking pissed my target is shit

Is there something wrong with mine

If you read the CF listing it describes a choice between extended and flat base plates and makes it sound like they're included. I'm going to email them.

You got nothing else I didn't though?

>>33177004
Nope nothing additional.

Your target is fine, ammo does that some times, if they put another 5 rounds through mine there's a good chance one or two would look out of place.

>>33177025
I wonder what classic firearms will say then. I wouldnt mind having the baseplates even though I'll likely just keep the flat ones on. My extra mag I bought only has the extended.

>>33176980
>>33176141

I didn't get a test target with either of my USPC's that I bought a couple years ago.

>>33177311
Wat

What the fuck is going on here

>>33176980
The import mark would drive me nuts.

>>33177323
Please ask a more specific question.

>>33177326
I think it's cool, adds a little uniqueness

>>33177311
Did you check behind the foam?

>>33177419
They don't ship with test targets if you buy them new in the US.

>>33177428
haha I should have probably noticed that before, good lookin out

>>33177496
I spend too much time on Twitter. I was thinking of a way to say that mine were bought new, but not from Classic Firearms, in as few characters as possible while hinting that even though the Classic Firearms guns were import marked and a weird configuration with ambi safety, you got a bonus by getting a test target.

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Got mine this week. Nice that it has an ambi safety already. I immediately ditched the LEM parts and installed the match trigger parts.

BTW if you're looking for the rfid chip it's behind the hammer spring. Gotta remove it to get a good look.

>>33177616
> I immediately ditched the LEM parts and installed the match trigger parts.

to each their own but....ew. LEM is the bees knees

>>33177628

I tried LEM, I really did. I had it in my P2000 and my full-size USP had a match/LEM hybrid. I just shoot DA/SA so much more I decided to standardize. It seemed like if I practiced enough to get really good with the LEM I began shooting DA/SA guns like crap.

>>33177326
It's really not that bad surprisingly. I'd prefer it to not be there though obviously.

>>33177616
Cool I am going to check mine probably

I like the feel of the lem alot so far but I need to actually shoot it. Long travel on first shot but then when you ride the reset it feels just like the single action on my cz SP01 or something.

>>33177699
I got you bro, I'm big on standardizing too.

>>33177719

There was something about the reset that was different enough to throw me off. A bit longer with some over travel that isn't there with the match trigger. The very light long first pull and then the hard break felt wonky too compared to the consistent until break traditional DA pull.

I got to the point I could shoot it well but it resulted in more of a trigger slap than riding the reset.

Even if you keep the LEM I'd put the match sear spring in and maybe the trigger return spring. They help a bunch.

>>33177820
I might but if I end up liking the trigger I don't want to spoil myself too much or waste money.

To me just dry firing it felt about like the reset on my cz (only thing I can compare it to)

The lightweight long pull to get up to the wall might fuck up my first shot though (since I'm used to the DA on my cz which IMO is excellent compared to the DA on this USP) or if I don't use the reset properly.

I think I will likely get into a bad habit of staging the first shot.

>>33178021
>To me just dry firing it felt about like the reset on my cz (only thing I can compare it to)
That's a good reset comparison. I own 3 TDA CZs and 3 LEM HKs and the SA reset on a CZ is very comparable to the reset on a LEM trigger in terms of length of pull, take up and break and positive reset.

>>33178051
That's convenient for me since (for me) I shoot well with my cz.


I'm getting some nice handguns now. ;^)

Is anyone elses mag release super fucking stiff?

Part of it is I'm not used to this euro style but it seems very stiff

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>>33178280
Compact HK paddles mags are stiffer than their full size counter parts, try an P2000SK so time.

In fact it's pretty common for compact mag releases on many makes/models to be small/subdued/stiffer than full size brethren.

>>33178302
Should I use my support hand to actuate it ?

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>>33178313
Your call.

I'm an odd duck and use my trigger finger with full size HK paddles, and both my thumb and trigger finger on the compacts.

>>33178385
My right hand is weak from an injury still not sure I can reliably get it with my trigger finger

Ill try thumb or support

>>33178385
>>33178404

I slightly rotate the gun in my grip and use my thumb for full size and compacts. Apparently the HK intended method is to use your trigger finger, I can't do it very well though thanks to some injuries.

>>33178443
Sounds like a good compromise, I just hate breaking my grip if it's avoidable.

>>33178404
If possible try your right hand, middle finger.

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>>33178811
Even harder lol

Also should there be a pin here? Or is it just a mag release spring or something?

>>33178957
There is a pin in there, I forget the type it's called, I'm a shooter not a tinkerer

Sounds like you should get used to using the support hand for the paddle as planned anon

>>33178957
>>33179062

It's a roll pin in there. Holds the paddle release on.

>>33179156
I was going to say roll pin but I figured murphy's law, I'd be wrong and look dumb(er)

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>>33176115
Hey, guy that asked you to look, ignore the retard, you need to remove the mainspring baseplate

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>>33179156
>>33179062
Same with the two holes on the top of slide? I can see through them so it's weird but it makes sense if it's a roll pin

I'm even managing to wank it up with my support hand. So far shifting and using right thumb seems the best. If I move the gun so the muzzle is pointing to the left.

>>33179232
yep that's how it's supposed to be, it's all good.

Yeesh bro well if you have to break your grip it is what it is, you're not the first person to have to accommodate that kind of manipulation.

>>33179232
>>33178957
Its a roll pin. They are large when pushed in and they get forced in place, once in place they expand a little bit and offer a really secure form of pin retention. Dont take them out unless you have replacements, it is HK SOP to not reuse roll pins.

>>33179273
>>33179280
Cool. Hopefully I can get good at breaking my grip and hitting that thing right it's a bitch right now.

>>33179462

If you want a bigger paddle the HK45c release will fit the P2000 and USPc.

>>33179758
Good to know. I don't thing I'd have a problem if my hands weren't so small. My thumb doesn't get far enough forward on the paddle to get good leverage

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#triggered

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>>33180544
looks like every LEM hammer ever since the begging of time tbqhfamalamadingdong

>>33180544
>>33180619
wow might as well buy a beretta px4 storm lamo. Atleast beretta doesnt have the balls to charge 800 dollars for a subpar product.

>>33180636
Enjoy your pile of garbage langdon

Meanwhile the first world will continue to enjoy the fantastic trigger system known as the LEM provided by none other than legendary HK

>>33180619
Second from the right is fine.

First is kinda like mine. Is that cocked or uncocked? Mine is cocked.

>>33180681
mine are always cocked.

Angle is wrong too, mine are actually all straighter than yours, sorry broski :/

>>33180681
>>33180704

Nope scratch that my grey market USPc is angled to the left like yours, well I'll be a monkey's uncle

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>>33180619
I'm afraid

>>33180704
I hear it doesn't effect function but some people have gotten replacements. Part of me is tempted to ask HK for a replacement if it isn't hard to install

I'm worried I'm getting rub on the frame while pulling the trigger


I'm always finding something that bothers me about every gun I get. My cz is rattley as a bag of change and now this lmao

>>33180712
You mean the one from CF?

Is it just like mine or less severe?

>>33180704
So what should I do here

>>33180725
Relax LEM bro. It's all good, I know it's a new awesome expensive HK toy but even HKs have tolerance allowances.

If cosmetically it bothers you that much? Yeah call HK but they will probably laugh at you. This is no way will effect the operation, accuracy, longevity or value of the gun. And frankly from your pic nothing is out of spec, when you see an out of spec pistol you will know it.

BTW I'm not some HK fanboi I often rail against the HK fanbois here I'm just trying to give it to you straight no homo

>>33179221
>>33176115
So... is there a chip?

>>33180739
Yes CF - I'm the same anon who originally posted and has been posting back to you - your gun is fine bro, it's perfectly fine. I know /k/ has worked HK guns in to the legendary, mythological figure but they have tolerance allowances just like any other manufacturer.

>>33180752
Just heard some guys get replacements made me think it's a problem.

>>33180765
Well if yours is as bad as mine that makes me feel good.

>>33180758
Apparently I haven't checked mine yet do I drive the back strap pin out to get the spring out or what

>>33180787

I know it's in your hands all up close so everything is under a micrometer.

I remember when I got my first FNS and the slide/frame fit look like it rode a bit to the right, I almost had an aneurysm imagining how the gun would shoot its self apart because of my observed and presupposed issue.

Something to keep in mind - Your new HK is not unfired, NIB - it was shot a fuck load at the factory, your gun works, and is safe, and the next issue you will have with it is small springs failing somewhere around 20,000 rounds down range.

>>33180787
>do I drive the back strap pin out to get the spring out or what
Yeah, just treat it like you are trying to view the mainspring

>>33180834
Yeah I figure it won't effect durability or function but I wonder if there's any rub or grit. It's also just sort of ugly.

I can't decide if I'll even bother with it honestly because likely I can just buy a hammer or email them just whenever .

Assuming that's what it is. Just the hammer.

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Oh it's definitely rubbing some just noticed this

Fuckkkk meeee

>>33180870
>Assuming that's what it is. Just the hammer.

It's not just the hammer, it's the fit and finish of the gun, roll pins, springs, forged parts, computerized and hand fit finish.

This is your gun brok, it will be ok.

Do me a favor, shoot 10 cases of 9x19 out of it, then re-examine the hammer.

I suggest this because while the hammer might still be in the same spot - your sense of urgency on fit finish and functionality will probably have evolved.

>>33180904
I did the same with my cz but this is actually rubbing. And I have googled this a bit and people have replaced the hammer to solve this issue.

I'm going to shoot HK an email I mean it can't hurt. I assume they'll just give me a hammer to fix myself, that's not difficult is it?

>>33180924
You seem to be dead set so just do that I guess?

I mean I would just shoot it, if it works I would be happy, if it didn't I'd be furious because >HK

99.9999999999999% your gun is fine go fucking shoot it already

>>33180938
I can't shoot it tonight anon I will shoot it tomorrow regardless.

If it wasnt rubbing I'd make do but the rubbing is a little concerning to overall frame wear. I bet that's where the bit of grit I get on the pull is coming from also.

>>33180948
I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill and if you empirically test the gun it will be fine - it would not have left the factory otherwise.

Say what you want about HK designs but they do not drop the ball on QC, it might look a little rough to you but I guarantee they didn't hand you a broke gun

Alright just sent HK an email. To anyone who is bothered by this you might as well IMO

>>33181036
I would agree but the visible marking pictured here:
>>33180901

Is not visible on the other side of the hammer. If replacing the hammer is ez pz and this is something HK acknowledges I might as well fix it now instead of later or just leaving it imperfect.

I'm sure I'm going to love this gun too

>>33176115
That looks like an USPecially good firearm anon, congratulations on the purchase.

>>33176115
>Faggots forgot to ship my extended plates so I'll have to bitch at them.
None of them came with extended plates. They were't included.
>>33176146
They are

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>>33181601
This made it sound like it did

>>33181592
Thank you ;^)

>>33181625
>whine about hammer
>whine about shit not coming with a non standard government contract gun he gets on discount

You are kind of a bitch, has anyone ever told you that?

>>33181636
Sorry I don't sit around like a docile little puppy if I think something is wrong.

Companies and sellers aren't doing you some great favor by selling you a product.

>>33181713
You're not standing up to someone who wronged you, and I'm not implying people shouldn't get mad and loud when something is legitimately wrong, but you're being very picky

>>33181729
If I'm being picky then so are loads of others. Do a google search for USP crooked hammer.

As for the CF deal I'm sure they just meant you could get the mags either way but that is worded very poorly.

>>33181625
yeah, that kind of phrasing is par for the course with Classic. If they omit anything or sneakily phrase anything, you can usually assume the worst.

In this case, I still think the gun was a good deal though. Not at all like the k31 I got from them that was beat to shit, rusted, and with a non-matching bolt (in "good" condition they said.)

>>33181749
Eh well I'm not devastated losing out on the base plates or anything but when you say USP + case and accessories one would think accessories means more than a silica packet, manual and factory target.

>>33181745
it's worth noting that on LEM models, that plastic thing on the back isn't the actual hammer.

>>33181779
Well that's odd

>>33181745
You are being a huge bitch this whole thread is your noguns perception of what it should be vs what it is, fuck off and enjoy your gun.

There's nothing wrong with your test target

There's nothing wrong with your roll pins

There's nothing wrong with your hammer

I hope HK tells you to get fucked

Go play in traffic

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>>33176115
Is USP worth only because of the iconic status or are newer HK pistols better?

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>>33183927

I find the fullsize USP kind of clunky and oversized and ergonomically "meh"

The compact feels more modern, better dimensions, better ergos and steel mags.

The P30 series is the most ergo and I would personally recommend that style.

P2000 series is kind of a half assed version of each, nothing wrong with it, just not my preference.

>>33183927
>can fire round in chamber with magazine released
Is this not a standard function in most modern firearms or have I completely overlooked something?

>>33184050
Ad is from 70/80s and aimed for LEOs who still regularly used revolvers and had doubts about autos.

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>>33183977
I like the full size. But my last carry was a full size 1911, so I guess I'm weird.

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>>33183927
You know why I love HK? Becuase they had to put out an ad explaining why their gun is so fucking expensive.

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>>33178302
>Compact HK paddles mags are stiffer than their full size counter parts
That shouldn't be true, since both models use the exact same parts with the same parts numbers from HK.

>>33178313
>>33178404
They are intended to be actuated with your dominant hand's index or middle finger. Springs tend to have a break in period. Just play with it for an hour while watching TV and it will loosen up. It shouldn't be too hard to use your dominant hand's thumb, though. You'll most likely just have to shift your grip.

>>33179232
>>33178957
Those are roll pins. They are hollow because they're made out of rolled sheet metal.

>>33179280
>Dont take them out unless you have replacements, it is HK SOP to not reuse roll pins.
That's true, but in practice, you can reuse them many times before they start to get loose.

>>33180544
Normal.
>>33180712
It's not "angled to the left." The gap on the right side of the hammer is simply larger than the gap on the left side. I forget what it's accommodating by being like that, but it's designed to be like that. The hammer might rub a little bit on either the left or right side below that cut out, regardless of which direction you think it's canted.

>>33180901
Shoot the gun. Does it jam? No? Then it's fine. The rubbing will remove a fraction of a micrometer of material within the first few dozen times you shoot it and then it won't rub anymore. The hammer spring is heavy enough to account for the extra friction and ignite the primers of your ammo regardless. You're reacting as if someone who has never owned a gun before in his life would react. Relax, nigga. It's called break in and it's normal.

>>33181625
They're just giving you a description of how the USP Compact works. You can order yourself some extended finger rest mag floorplates from the manufacturer optionally. That doesn't mean you'll get them with your new gun, though.

>>33184565
Not sure what to tell you, maybe it just seems that way because the paddle is smaller but my P2000SK and compact are definitely stiffer than my USP/P30L

>>33181745
>Do a google search for USP crooked hammer.
The fact that dozens of people observed - or thought they observed - something doesn't mean they have insight into how the gun was designed to function. You can do a Google search for "chemtrails" and "flying saucers" and find lots of people thinking they are observing things, even though it's purely their lack of reasoning skills or lack of information which led them to think they are observing certain things.

>>33182626
This.

>>33184625
It's weird to me that your P30 and USP mag releases would feel the same, since the P30 mag release is so much bigger. It's entirely possible that HK has changed their standards for spring design over the years, but new parts are supposed to be the same for the mag catch and mag catch spring between the full size and compact USP models. Was your USP purchased used? Maybe its mag catch spring has simply had more time to weaken than your P2000 and P2000SK springs due to being used more?

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>>33184698
>Was your USP purchased used?
Extremely, it was a police demo gun, that probably explains it

Is it okay to dry fire these? All these internet folks make it sound like just the thought of dry firing a usp will break the firing pin

>>33184942
Yes, although the USP firing pin was upgraded in 2004 or so to make it less susceptible to breakage during dry fire.

>>33184942
Always use snap caps, striker fired, hammer fire, whatever.

Always

Use

Snapcaps

>>33184565
It's to clear the trigger disconnect when reassembling the gun.

>>33185094
Also, the corresponding cut out on the frame is to clear the fp block when the slide is cycling.

>>33182626
>Shilling HK this fucking hard

Holy shit you're deluded. The hammer is fucking crooked and multiple people have replaced hammers for this.

>>33184565
That's the opposite side of what I said was rubbing. Check the other pics I posted like the hammer when the trigger is pulled.

>>33184698
Stop being absurd. HK literally acknowledged this and sent them replacement parts. That's not the same fucking thing as chemtrails.

>>33185600
You are dumb as shit.

>>33185614
>Company sent out parts no question to retards because they're awesome
>The same as admitting to a problem

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Is op the one concerned about every part interaction? I kind of got lost.

>>33177326
It's way less obnoxious than you'd think it is. Photos bring it out but it's actually kind of hard to read irl.

>>33180758
No chip in the Classic LEMs.

Why bother with the compact models? They don't have the recoil reduction system that basically makes the USP.

>>33185883
They literally said out of spec hammers dumb fuck

What do you get out of shilling this hard

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Just took it out to shoot today and ran about 5 mags through it.

I am so disappointed. My first mag every shot failed to eject. Second mag nearly every shot and third about 4 shots. All different mags.

After the three mags had those issues I had only one issue from the last two mags or so but I had reloaded the mags with fewer rounds.

I like the way the gun shot and the lem trigger but fuck me I can't carry a gun like this. I'm going to try and run another 200 rounds through it and if it doesn't choke up anymore MAYBE I'll trust it

Was using blazer brass and sellier and bellot. No problems from either with my CZ.

>>33186685
are these used beat to shit mags that came with the gun?
with usedguns used you should expect to replace springs

>>33186732
The gun is factory new. Two mags came with the gun and one I bought at the gun store. The one I bought at the store had FTE every round.

It's not a used gun m8

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>>33186433
Because it's 9mm, not .45. It's no different from any other 9mm semi-compact, did all the other 9mm semi comptacts become not-good once the USPc came out, or were they just fine too?

>>33186732
No they're brand new, my mags didn't have draw lines from the magazine catch until I slid them in and out a couple of times. They're completely new.