Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking

>>33130502
Nukes

>>33130515
Can you read, libtard?

>>33130502
God I can't wait until some regional conflict with China or Russia. Dem body bags

>>33130536

Our devil dawgs would fuck up Russians 100 to 1. Every marine a rifleman

>>33130502
Their main rivals are China, one of their main allies, and the US, who currently has a Russian puppet for a head of state.
Not very likely.

>>33130502
Yes. They have more manpower. The same reason the Germans lost. Their military also looks to be 10x tougher than our watered down combat units of millennials and transgendered SJWs. Our SF community would do well, not so confident in our main combat forces who have been training and fighting COIN for almost 2 decades

t. Ex 11b

>>33130502
>their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions

How is their derrent reliant on western imports

>>33130643
>They have more manpower.

Vatnik pls

>>33130643

HAHAHA FUKK OFF RUSSIAN SHILL

>>33130562
Now say it with a straight face.

>>33130569
>Russian puppet
Holy shit fucking kys you are self.
There is 0 evidence whatsoever that Trump is a Russian puppet. If anything it's the other way around.

>>33130683

They have no deterrent. Only threats against innocents

>>33130569
>has a Russian puppet for a head of state.

This meme needs to stop

>>33130532
>claims out his ass that their nuclear arsenal is non functional
>believes this despite the intel among all major intelligence services points to an arsenal still capable of destroying several US cities
>thinks the other Anon is a retard

really gets those neurons going

>>33130718

That's not an answer to the question.

i live in san diego fuckers like you are going to get me painfully killed of radiation poisoning

>>33130502
they are a nice people. christian country. their women are hot. they want to remove kebab as badly as we do. they have nuclear weapons. they saved america from becoming a socialist dictatorship under clinton. they provide hours of endless entertainment on youtube from dashcam footage.

why the fuck would you wish any harm on them

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>>33130718
>"They have no deterrent"

>"Only threats against innocents"

Your bait thread is so baseless that you have to just sperg out on everyone who disagrees.

Actually an hero, film it, and then post it somewhere public.

t. Patriotic American who knows how to make his brain work more than you do

Pic related, this will be what happens when you do something stupid without thinking of international relations. Fucktard.

>>33130502
No

>>33130771

They stand firmly opposed to the international norms of democracy, openness, and freedom. Everything that Bin Laden stood for on 9/11, Russia stands for today, namely the destruction of America and our way of life. If it was not for the deterrent factor of our brave heroes in uniform, Russia would have killed you long ago, so show some fucking gratitude

>>33130502
Yes.

It's called winter.

>>33130502
Because conquering Russia would still lead to thousands of casualties.
While you might be eager to say "Fuck Yeah" from the confort of your chair, soldiers still need a good reason to put their lives on the line.
"We invade because it's weaker and need to be taught its place" ain't good reason enough.

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>>33130643
>They have more manpower.
>Less than half of the population of the US

>>33130888
Worked for Vietnam and Korea. Sick trips by the way.

>>33130502
It's big and expensive

>>33130502
>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up Russia right now?
We are stronger as allies than as enemies.

>>33130882

A myth that ignores the reality of how nuclear operations work.

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>>33130717
>>33130721
A shocking number of his staffers have been busted for being controlled by Russia. He even tried to get the FBI to publicly "debunk" issues that they're actually investigating right now.
Things in the Steele dossier keep being proven true. Face it: Donnie's a puppet.

>>33130842

Proofs.

>>33130502

the US military is subservient to the political class and the political class can't conjure up a remotely justifiable casus belli

>>33130783
Why is Hillary there? She has no power.

>>33130502

Minding you own business motherfucker.
Do you speak it?

>>33131192
>minding your own business

It is America's job to make everything our business.

>>33130502
Go to bed John McCain, you're drunk.

>>33130502
Why go to war with Russia? That's what fucking globalists and neocons want.

>>33131245

wow, aren't you edgy?

"Its not a phase mom I really am russian"

>>33131245
Russia is America's #1 enemy.

>>33131263
>muh duly designated enemy
>muh two minute hate

good goy

>>33130739
nothing of value etc.

>>33130502
>> their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions
AHAHAHAHAH no

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>>33131261
>Wants to engage in nuclear warfare and kill millions of people because CNN told him to
>Calls other people edgy

>>33131245
Are you high? Globalists want to keep the rabble down to make more $$$.

Russia wants a week NATO. NATO is nominally a trade pact. But has grown to oppose that. BRICS minus India and plus iran want a weak west inorder to undermine their strong position and usurp it for themselves. No matter who wins the little guy here loses.

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>>33130502
Yes. It's an unnecessary war and peaceful trade relations would be much better. I could get a Russian made AK for cheap and that Russian revolver shotgun is aesthetic af

>>33130732

>arsenal still capable of destroying several US cities
>several

That's quite an understatement.

>>33131305
>little guy here loses

who do you think fights and dies for the globalist wars

>>33130949

You should get a trip so we can filter out your autism.

>>33131331
Who do you think dies fighting anti globalist wars. Guess what it's the same.

>>33131345
>if we don't fight a pointless war with russia then people will die in some other war of my own imagination

kys

>>33131330
I'd be curious how many nukes are still functional for both nations. Plenty to ensure Armageddon, I'm sure. Enough to extinguish life on 3 continents though?

>their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions
What? Fucking what?

>>33131305
>Russia wants a week NATO
You naturally want to have an alliance with main goal to contain you, weak

>stealing territory from us in Ukraine
Yeah because the USA owns Ukraine

>>33130502
>nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons
>a highly nationalistic populace
>large number of reservists
>an unforgiving environment
>a lack of transportation infrastructure
>there is nothing of value there that can be held forcibly for less than the value of those resources
>support from China and North Korea (kek)

Realistically, if the USA tried any military incursion into Russia, China and North Korea would immediately go ham on Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan as their only real chance for blood. Never mind the fact that every major city in the world is gone due to the nuclear war you've just unleashed, every other nation is going to go in and start settling scores with each other while the big guys are busy.

>>33131409
>Enough to extinguish life on 3 continents though?
Life is pretty persistent thing, so enough to make civilization back to 18-19 century for 40-50 years.

>>33130502
So to move this to a more productive topic, why can't we be allies? Is it because Russia would never follow through?

>>33131297
>has a problem with glassing russia, just because he got cucked by paid russian shills

>>33131334
What a well-reasoned and informed post.

>>33131442
>China and North Korea would immediately go ham on Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan
They not an allies for Russia, so they will sit and wait

>>33130842
>They stand firmly opposed to the international norms of democracy, openness, and freedom.
So it's confirmed they're the good guys.

>>33130502
>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up Russia right now?

Am I the only one tired of arguing against neoliberals and globalists? Tired of pointing the ridiculous inconsistencies, lies, and propaganda we get bombarded with daily? Its obvious they will never stop doing what they are doing and the vast majority of brainwashed leftist bastards that follow their lies will never come over to our side.

I honestly wish things would just get worse until we hit the breaking point and can simply murder all these treasonous commie fucks.

>>33131409

>Enough to extinguish life on 3 continents though?

We (humans) never head this ability, even at the peak warhead counts (about an order of magnitude more than we have now) during the Cold war.

That said, if Russia launches a full countervalue strike, it can certainly devastate every single major US metropolitan area.

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>>33130771
>they want to remove kebab as badly as we do.

This meme needs to stop.

There are so many Muslims who live in Russia that Putin and the Russian government refuse to say "Islamic terrorism" like Trump does. Or if its 'Turks' that you meant by kabab, you would be a moron if you think that Russia isn't trying to be friends with them.

>>33130643

Gotta love dem russian fags forgetting about the lend lease lifeblood that america gave them so we could let them do the dirty work.

Because you know T-34's using signal flags in place of radios would totally have won the war.

Russia sucked Murrican cock so hard and swallowed every last drop of spooge then kept on suckkin after we nutted.

>>33131563

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYe_UaWZ3U

Because you know they have not devloped anything bigger then the tsar bomb since the 60's.

And let not forget fallout.

>>33131673

>Because you know they have not devloped anything bigger then the tsar bomb since the 60

Modern warheads' yield are much smaller. typically in sub-megaton range. As far as I remember, neither the US, nor Russia currently deploys any warheads above 1MT.

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>>33130502

Pic Related

US + RUSSIA
Alliance

We'll need them to help us clean up the world.

Superpowers unite against heathen scum.

> 15% of muslims are fundamentalist
> they are either violent extremists, or they quietly provide assistance and shelter to them
> out of 1.5 billion thats about 200-300 million humans who are self pronounced enemies of humanity.
> lookup brigitte gabriel if you doubt this.
> also we have declared war on these people already technically speaking, we are already in the process of killing them

Nevermind the fact that the communist EU has to go down, and germany needs help pulling it off.

>>33131769
>he fell for a pol meme

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Before election
>Trump is immature and has no experience in delicate foreign affairs!
After election
>OMG WHY ISN'T TRUMP NUKING RUSSIA?!?!?

>>33131815
Bring in the strawmans!

>>33131849
It's not a strawman.

The OP is literally advocating us starting a nuclear war with Russia.

>>33130502
There's literally no reason to fuck with Russia.

The absolute tripfaggotry in this thread is shocking.

>>33131882
Nonsense. CNN told me they are behind everything going wrong ever.

Why would they lie? Surely they aren't scapegoating for anything.

>>33130771
>Russians
>Nice

>christian country
So is all of South America. Also the percentage of muslims in Russia is around 5-15% compared to around 1% in the US.

>their women are hot
Until they turn 30

They ruin every game they have players in and they're essentially Detroit: The Country. Hot garbage.

>>33130699
>>33130708
>>33130916
Having millions of domesticated people stateside=/= manpower. If they aren't able to be mustered to combat immediately and able to get overseas, they aren't effective as a force multiplier. Russia can mobilize their population to be combat capable, much quicker than we'd be able to plus home field advantage. Not a Russian shill, I served in the US Army, just stating my opinions.

>>33131870
So you know the people in this thread personally and know what they said before the vote?

>>33130569

>Russian puppet

Most days it barely looks like Trump is in control of Trump. I doubt seriously that Russia will fare any better than anyone else when it comes to trying to make Donald do what they want him to.

>>33130783
>Georgia

Lol Russia can't even annex a tiny country like Georgia, the invasion was a disaster for them. Didn't some Russian General get injured in that invasion too?

>>33130949
>A shocking number of his staffers have been busted for being controlled by Russia
1. KILL YOURSELF
2.Nobody has been confirmed controlled by Russia, there are some like Mike Flynn who have been SUSPECTED to have been considered a sympathiser through actions and personal ties, but aside from personal talk and business between a handful of campaign managers talking to friends of friends of russia's cabinet.
3.The media is RUNNING with this story for practically everybody he's hired onto his cabinet because you faggots eat that shit up, you wanna talk about how Bernie is obviously a russian puppet because of his campaign manager's actions?

>>33131918
this
the whole russian shill painting a picture of russia thing will backfire badly one day, when all the idiots get they havebeen fooled.

>>33131950
They also shot down their own planes and artied their own troops.

>>33130502

Trying to invade and/or occupy Russia is a bad idea under any circumstances.

Also "we have mad dog mattis" sounds like you're talking from the United States but... "stealing territory from us in Ukraine" sounds like you're talking about and from Ukraine.

I doubt you could find 100 Americans who gave a single shit about Crimea and Ukraine. Russia can keep it as far as I care.

Not my circus, not my monkeys.

>>33131305
>NATO is nominally a trade pact

You're mixing that up with something else. NATO was created as a defensive alliance against the Warsaw Pact.

The original purpose of NATO was to defend the West against the Russians. Other countries want in because they want to be protected against Russia.

>>33131953
>reeeee
>how dare you to say something against trumpest guys
>if they where people i dont like, i would bash them til eternity, but since i fell for him he can get away with anything
A true believer.

>>33131927
HAHAHA, what do you think this is communist russia we're fighting?
>Russia can mobilize their population to be combat capable
If they're not too busy sucking GI dick for citizenship ouuta that shit hole

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>>33131953
But it's true, Anon. The USIC even admits that Russia did their damndest to get their puppet elected.

>>33132018
>Communist Russia
No. But these are the Slav descendants of USSR Russians, and they're experiences make them a tougher culture. America has had it pretty easy the past 70 years, and our military has never been as competent and elite as Hollywood or folklore makes it out to be

>>33130502
Hillary plz go

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>>33130502
>the West could win a shooting war with Russia

>>33132052
>"Everyone I don't like is a puppet!"

In that case Obamarama and Bush and Clinton were all Saudi puppets.

>>33130569
How are things at share blue today?

>>33131927
The total potential amount of troops they can amass is significantly smaller than our own, what chance do they have of winning if they can't use their advantage to take us out quickly? This is discounting the fact that technologically speaking they are at a disadvantage and is simply a look a the numbers.

>>33132080
>B-b-b-but Hillary!
How many rubles do you get to make these posts?

>>33132080
They were actually puppets though.

>>33132080
>but what about...
Some people simply dont get how good they have been conditioned to becone useful idiots. This is probaly the only thing the russians are good at.

>>33132116
I agree we have the technological advantage, but that hardly makes a difference. Technology and armor alone won't win fights. This is something we learned the hard way in Iraq

>>33132123
>>33132146
>we are puppets because we're not starting a war with a nuclear capable country
okay

>>33132154
I said that even if you discount the technological disparity, the numbers simply do not favor the Russians who lack the means to make use of their fast mobilization and remove the US from the war before it has a chance to fully mobilize.

>>33132161
>quick must change topic to hide my error and gain fake high moral ground
Holy fuck, you are indoctrinated hard, Goebbels would have tears of joy in his eyes over someone like you.

>>33130502
Our last chance to destroy them was immediately after the war. Our next chance is after we develop a full-proof counter to their nukes. That's when we finally have our chance at global domination.

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>>33132286
Trumpcucks are super gullible and extremely adept at regurgitating the lines they've been fed.

>>33130502

>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up USA right now?

ftfy

>>33132360
They are just copying vatnik behaviour, who shilled them into becoming the perfect useful idiots.

>>33132286
>>33132360
Except in the case of Saudi Arabia there is lots of evidence of them benefiting. How does Russia benefit other than avoiding WWIII brinkmanship? "Puppet" implies we're doing something that benefits them somehow, but I still haven't seen what that is exactly. As far as I'm concerned, defeating Hillary was good for everybody. Are you telling me we should have elected Hillary along with all of her shit because it would have been bad for Russia as well? That's what it seems like you fags are saying.

>>33132460
This is the part where they tell you they really didn't shill for hill and claim they wanted some literally who or anarcho capitalist wackjob.

>>33132460
>let me just shill me my predigested propaganda i have been fed, that wasnt requested and is just a fix of whataboutism, stuff taken out of context and lies
Yes, good peasant.

>>33130502
Question, is OP retarded? Because remember we'd end up fighting China, North Korea, and [spoiler]I think from what I last heard but I have a shitty memory.[/spoiler] India. I'm sorry but fighting countries that can do more conscript spam that we can isn't exactly the brightest idea in my opinion

>>33132460
Impressive how you cant do anything else beside forcing in stuff like the preprogrammed drone. You need to be cool, cool like PEPSI on a hot summer day, refreshing like a PEPSI after a workout.

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>>33130502
You are a dope who is easily manipulated by the MSM.

>>33132532
Why the hell would we fight against China? They probaly would snatch Siberia half way in the war. And whats up with India? What should be the reason there to begin with?

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The US will only go to war once Donald stops spending so much time sucking off Putin.
As long as daddy P lets little Don swallow his load, then daddy P is free to do as he wishes.

>>33132574
>guys lets make a joke thread about attacking country X
Why does it only go wrong when it is about russia? Is it maybe because there is a bunch if shills out there, that get mad the second someone even says something little against russia? Seriously, this is so fucking uncanny it hurts.

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>>33132507
>>33132563
>repeating the same thing over and over while calling the other person a preprogrammed drone
>accuse the other person of what you're doing
I've read Alinsky too

>>33132584
>Daddy P
>Little Don
What kind of faggot Occupy Democrat tier lingo is that? Neck yourself

>>33132582
I don't remember exactly the reasons but I do remember to a slight degree that they have in any case China, North Korea and India to back them up encase of anything... I think. Like I said my memory is pretty shit and the last time I heard anything about all that was around late 2015 early 2016, so I'm probably wrong..... Maybe.

>>33132638
>oh no, he noticed he repeated himself twice and said that
>that of course is exactly the same
>luckily i have a cuckfrog picture to add to my post to look smug

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>>33132460
How does Russia benefit from sanctions being dropped and being allowed to anschluss whomever they want like they did Crimea?
I wonder.

>>33132684
[]not rekt
[]rekt
[x]tyrannosaurus-rekt

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>>33130502
>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up Russia right now?

Is there a valid reason why we should?

>their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions

Not true at all. Even if it was, just half of their arsenal is enough to devastate the US. Unless you have proof that their ENTIRE nuclear stockpile is out of commission, you're asking for a casualty number in the millions.

>we have mad dog mattis, they have bitch putin

Unless Mattis has a magical nuclear missile shield hidden up his asshole, it's a moot point.

>bitch putin is playing stupid games stealing territory from us in Ukraine, and needs to get his prize

That sounds like Ukraines problem to me. Not to mention that the Ukrainian government is probably the only slavic government that is even more corrupt and abusive than the Russian one.


So in summation, you want to start a nuclear war that would kill millions of our people over nothing but some irrelevant nobody nation that has never done anything for us and you're own ego? Fuck off. I'm as patriotic as they come, which is why I'm not willing to spend a single drop of precious American blood fighting a "threat" as unimportant and irrelevant as Russia, let alone the millions of American lives that would be lost in a theoretical nuclear conflict. Attacking a nuclear fucking power requires a stronger casus belli then your ego and CNN blaming them for the loss of their favored candidate.

>>33130502

we would gain absolutely nothing and it would cost lots of money.

>>33132665
A you fucking retarded? The second big quarrel India has with someone beside Pakistan is with China, they hate each other. All they do is smiling and shaking hands, pretending they have a leverage against the west in this, while they aim more and more of their military at each other.

>>33130502
tfw i reported this garbage thread an hour ago and it's still here

>>33132614
>I was merely pretending to be retarded

The OPs "joke" isn't very funny. There are people, including senators, legitimately stupid enough to think instigating nuclear armageddon over fucking Crimea is a wise and pertinent decision.

>>33132665
>According to a 2014 BBC World Service Poll, 33% of Indians view China positively, with 35% expressing a negative view, whereas 27% of Chinese people view India positively, with 35% expressing a negative view.[17] A 2014 survey conducted by the Pew Research Center showed 72% of Indians were concerned that territorial disputes between China and neighbouring countries could lead to a military conflict.[18]
This doesnt really look like best friends.

>>33132777
There is so much stuff that isnt a joke like you said, but still is it laughed about? No problemo. But dont you dare to say anything about russia, this triggers the russboos harder than anyone else and he creeps from the shadows of laughing about anything, to truely show what he thinks is allowed by him to be said.

>>33130502
>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up Russia right now?

For starters, their Commander in Chief isn't a retard. It's best not to let the village idiot lead you into battle.

I didn't know CTR was so prevalent on /k/!

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>>33132880
I think it's the opposite. Tell an American he can't invade and bully any nation he chooses and he gets triggered and starts calling everyone else a puppet. Grow the fuck up, dude.

>>33132704
Have any sanctions been lifted on Russia?

>>33132614
No I think every "war" in my lifetime has been absolutely retarded and unnecessary so I shit down your throat like all the other neocon faggots wanting to war with ____.

>>33131261
There's nothing edgy about not wanting to go to war for no reason.
>>33131263
You're America's #1 shill
>>33131305
Who gives a fuck about a weak NATO! The nigger countries in NATO can't even meet their defense spending requirements so the US pays it! Huge waste of money on cuck countries LARPing as a 1st world military.
>Oppose BRICS
Gee, I wish everything was controlled by 1 international banking cartel! No one else should be allowed to have their own trade organizations! That's sarcasm you fucking idiot.

Daily reminder Joe Biden's son is an executive and a Ukrainian oil company.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27403003

It's time for John McCain and his globalist jew banker cum guzzling friends to stop playing Cold War.

>>33132930
Not yet. That's what Flynn and his pals have been talking with Russia about.

>>33132920
>CTR
>>>/pol/
And take your imaginary enemies with you.

>>33131603
How is it a meme when Russia is probably wiping out ISIS as we shitpost?

>>33132975
>Joe Biden's son is an.. Ukrainian oil company.
Did chuckle.

>>33133005
>CTR, as imaginary as $40 million spent to shill
Please stop shilling on /k/

>>33132920
>>33133005
Holy shit you are obvious.

>>33132880
If you asked why we don't steamroll Britain, China, or France, I'd call you fucking retarded as well.

If you are attacking a nuclear power, any nuclear power, you'd better have a damn good reason or I am going to call you retarded.

>>33133024
>2014
>Russia is going to syria
>They will wipe out ISIS within weeks! 2 month at worst!
>Russia basically bombs everyone but ISIS for over a whole year
>2017
>Russia will wipe out ISIS, any second now...any second now
>did ISIS just capture Palmyra again?

>>33133042
>they spend money to shill on 4chan
>the stuff about the 4000 kremlin shills on the other hand is of course a lie and why would they shill on 4chan?

>>33133116
Its been a year and four months. Still, they are not doing much against ISIS.

As a Russian/Ukrainian immigrant to glorious USA and Trump voter I approve this thread. Russia is dangerous and should be contained at all cost. Their economy will collapse again so war won't be necessary. What will be necessary is for the US to secure rouge Russian nukes once Moscow collapses and Russia fragments. As well as China. They will collapse and fragment too. Bank on it.

>>33132981
>Not yet.
Then maybe shut the fuck up for a while.

>>33133153
>russian government has the money to pay people on the internet
they can't even feed their own people, and are an aids infested shithole and the only reason they're still relevant is becasue they have nukes.

>>33133161
There has been this funny story about 50years in the future how old ISIS fighters, long after the conflict is over, still repeatedly go over to Palmyra and "capure" it from one old SAA soldier who works there as a guard by then.

>>33133234
You mean russians of all people dont have a history of their country going to shit, while still wasting what they have heavily on propaganda? That was basically what they did for over 50 years, bad habbits die hard.

>>33133215
How much money does Donnie have invested in Russia? How much of his debt is there?

Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people

>>33131950
>can't even annex
They cannot annex Georgia because muh intl politics, not lack a firepower
>the invasion was a disaster for them
Russia meet all of invasion targets in FIVE DAYS

>'wow what a shit bait thread, surely no one fell fo it-'
>150 posts by 58 IPs
retards

>>33133560
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>>33133560
>61 IPs now, since I had to post to say,

This.

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If USA attack. vs RU def. it would be easy af for RU

>>33133734
Not easy, but US aircraft losses will be tremendous before Russian IADS will be saturated and destroyed

>>33132584
Notice the dominant hand placement.

https://youtu.be/M4NWIAjOEM4

>>33133916

fuck off traitor if u think that the US would lose any planes to russian garbage

>>33130771
>christian country

Try again - less than half of Russians consider themselves to be Christian. More info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

In Putin's era Russia has degraded becoming what is basically aggressive militaristic dictatorship, which launches military invasions to its neighboring countries at will. The officially approved political ideals run from nationalism to violent ultra-nationalism, with panrussialism and slavophilia at side. In practice Russian foreign policy shows to other countries mostly as Putin's regime supporting every two-bid dictator that the west would rather do without.

BTW: Today is second anniversary for murder of Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition leader who got gunned down on a bridge next to Moscow Kremlin, while all security cameras of the Kremlin happened to be "down for maintenance". The assassination remains unsolved and is expected to remain so.

>>33130502
>Hurr Durr thousands or millions of people should die because I'm a cumbrained neocon slave

>>33130783
I'm also wondering why the UK managed to annex some of the Republic of Ireland (you know the bit that forms the western border of Northern Ireland)

Also yeah I know autistic as fuck to spot that.

>>33133948
>fuck off traitor if u think that the *Third Reich* would lose *anything* to russian garbage

>>33131263

Why?

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>all this slav dick sucking and liberal shilling
cant we just have a normal fucking thread?

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>>33130502
Because the USA and Russia actually have a chance to be friends for once, and we should screw that up.

>>33130502
>Is there a valid military argument against going in and fucking up Russia right now?

...said Bonaparte in 1812 and Hitler in 1941. And also said some shithead on 4chan who apparently doesn't know history. Hey hooknose - Bush, Glenn Beck, and Ghost from TCR may fall for that bullshit, but we know better around here. Sorry that a Cossack raped your great-grandma and burned down the shtetl and all, but it's not my fucking problem.

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No, seriously, Jews do this shit constantly - try to talk other people into fighting their enemies for them. "Let's you and him fight". Sorry, not this time, Schlomo. If you hate Russia, you grab a rifle and head over to Moscow. Lemme know how it turns out for you.

>>33134624
So don't invade Russia when it's winter, no problem

>>33134702
Bonaparte and Hitler both invaded in June. Then a few months went by, and winter showed up. It kinda tends to do that.

>>33134248
Why?

WHY?

Did you forget the Cold War? The USSR may not be around anymore, but Russia clearly carries on its spirit. The leader of Russia is even a former KGB agent!

Russia is, and will always be, America's most important enemy.

>>33134714
>Russia is our most important enemy.
Not China devouring the world's economy with slave labor

Not the Islamic state beheadinf everyone who disagrees with them

Not North Korea threatening the US with weapons of mass destruction

Are you sure you're not fucking retarded?

>>33130502
>poses a strategic question
>first reason to do it contains the word "likely"

Bruh, you answered your question. You don't commit to serious military actions because of it being LIKELY. How up-to-date is the US nuclear arsenal and why? Why is it that way? Is it perhaps because you value your nukes and update/maintain your arsenal? Why do you think Russians didn't do the same?

You are the trigger-happy cunt that shouldn't be let near a nuclear arsenal

>>33134727
Traitor.

>>33134751
Are you sure you're even American? Russia has been our foe since the end of WWII; even if the USSR is gone, that hasn't changed.

>>33134727
you're on /k/ bro. not on /pol/. keep that anti semetic nazi bullshit out of here bro. us /k/ommandos love the jews and israel and will protect them with our lives so they can rule the world one day just like god and jesus wants them to. im sick of u fucking nazis and ur anti jew bullshit just because ur mad that they are god's favorite and have higher iqs than us whites

>>33134823
kek

>>33134201

Are you calling are brave boys nazis? Come here u liberal filth

>>33132070
Those nice, pampered, well fed Americans didn't seem to have any trouble stomping the everloving shit out of the warrior like, unafraid to die Japanese in WWII...

>>33130502
you and creatures like you are gaining traction in the current political climate. sieze the day.

>>33134857
No they're not, attitudes towards Russia in the US haven't changed

>>33132070
This is such a meme, the second twitter starts showing their military getting rekt by US air power they revolt, that's also a fun Russian tradition too.

Actually the US has been as good as it's portrayed, look at ariel losses in both Europe and the Pacific as the war got under way. If anything it was the Axis that are always portrayed as behemoths (that seemingly couldn't figure out how to make infantry divisions motorized)

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Gun owners who support trump/Russia are selfish and immature. Grow a fucking spine. Fuck Russia

>>33130502
>people actually think a war with Russia would benefit anyone
fucking retard, even if we won our economy and military would be in tatters for decades to come, and that's without nuclear war happening which it almost certainly will

>>33135298
lol shut up russian shill, the only thing in tatters would be the russ shits. America would kick fucking ass

>>33131950
Russian operational doctrine since World War 2 has centered around deep penetration by combined arms tank armies utilizing joint massed artillery strikes and organic anti-air units to allow for a maneuver range of up to 1000km. Granted the Russo-Georgian "war" (if you can even call it that) was not a great example considering the geographical bottleneck that the Russian military had to transit to deploy substantial forces into theatre, the Russian Army still rolled straight over what was recently a NATO trained and supplied 'modern' army. The Russian's obviously noted all of their deficiencies during that little operation considering the rapid expansion of operational exercises and hardware modernization that followed in the years after which focused on exercises involving division or corps sized formations operating jointly with all Russian military branches.

The Ukraine war is a more likely scenario and everyone saw what the Russian massed artillery especially their massed rocketry did to Ukrainian armor formations. The Russians had no need to penetrate the Ukrainian border with armored formations as their artillery was sufficient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uiFhs5eg1c

>>33130717
> national security advisory quits after fake news finds out he was talking to Russia about lifting sanctions before he was sworn in and took his oath to do what he does in the best interest of the USA and not Putin

> investigation into his top aids sucking Russian dick
> FBI asked to give a press release saying there isn't a Russia connection WHILE they're investigating a Russia connection

>185 posts, 81 posters


Wow CTR is working overtime tonight!

>>33130502
Russia is a big guy and we don't have the money to fuck his shit up and just walk away from it. The international backlash of destabilizing that shithole would rock some sphere of their influence on the globe

>>33135425
> 1 reply allotted per person

Commie scum get out

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>>33135444
two cuckbucks have been deposited to your account

>>33131673
>And let not forget fallout.
Fallout is a myth. Radiation dissipates within 30 seconds. Ever heard of half lives, Oppenheimer?

>>33133983

>Boris Nemtsov
>Russian opposition leader

This meme is still alive. What? How? He was nothing but a political fucking corpse since 2003. Ne had no power. No actual chance to come back and join "big game". He was fucked and forgotten by pretty much everybody.

Yong people (under 25) learned about him only after his death. And even that happened only because our opposition and leftard media (lenta.ru is a nice example) decided to make a martyr of him.

>>33130502
Actual Ukrainefag here.
An I must say;
>Kill yourself
>This belongs on /pol/
>Putin is not invading Ukraine, unlike in your wet dreams
>The U.S government is a much larger warmonger than Russia; fucking hypocrite
>Their nuclear arsenal works, why would sanctions keep them from maintaining their fraction of soviet nukes, which doubled the U.S at their peak.
>Can't wait to get that shit over your slum you call "Washington"

>>33135479

>young

fix

>>33135452
> This upset nobody supports his failed nations

>>33131950
They didn't try to annex Georgia.
They just pushed Georgia out of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

It was one of the most decisive victories in recent history, rivalling the six day war.
It was also a showcase of NATO mentoring vs Russian strategy and tactics - which did not go as planned.

The idea was to bleed Russia in South Ossetia, using Georgia's claim to sovereignty and intense desire to join NATO - basically to test Russian tactics, logistics and strategies after a decade of rebuilding their armed forces.
They expected it to be a long, bloody stalemate - especially with Georgia being mentored by the US and supplied hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment.

It was a surprise for the US administration when Georgia got rolled.

>>33135483
>nobody

Yeah working at CTR is a prestigious job I know.

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>>33130502
>mfw I have a felony record so the military won't send me to get assraped in the South China Sea or Siberia

>>33134928
Wew, Shareblue posts are terrible.

>>33134771
>Neocons
>Neocons everywhere

>>33130502
Bud, nothing is going to stop a nuclear power from maintaining a 24/7 credible first/secondary nuclear strike capability. In fact taking care of their nukes is top on every nuclear power's spending list.

>>33130771
>hours of endless entertainment on youtube from dashcam footage
Fucking kek

Nigga, your army can't fight rice farmers.
What makes you think you can fight a superpower?

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>>33130502
>their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions
Ha yea, lets risk wiping out all of humanity because we have to save those poor kids in aleppo.
Your not Islamophobic are you?
You don't hate poor children right?

>>33130569
>the US, who currently has a Russian puppet for a head of state.

Do not believe their lies.

>>33130502
We already beat them to the moon. How much further can we damage that shithole?

>>33135588
By burning their shitty circus buildings. That shit is straight out of the candyland board game. it's an affront to how sweet America is.

ITT pissed off vatniks vs fatniks

>>33132154
Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world at the time of the US invasion. If anything, how quickly we beat them shows how effective technological superiority can be.

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I really wish ted cruz and john kerry would stop raiding /k/

SHOO SHOO NEOCON CRYPTOJEW

>>33135629
most likely its just Troll trolling trolls

We definitely need to be harsher on Russia. Their expansionism threatens US interests in Europe. Put boots on the ground in Ukraine.


Too bad we elected a Russian puppet.

>>33132639
Can't handle the truth. Trump voters got cucked by russian alterna-facts so now we have a dipshit rich kid in the white house who can't even sit through a daily intelligence briefing because it doesn't have a crawl like his favorite news shows talking about how big his inauguration crowd was.

Our country, military, and people deserved better than Hillary for sure, but thinking that old Donny with his best bud Putin's hand up his ass is better is just self-delusion at this point.

And as for the idea that a war with Russia wouldn't somehow go nuclear the minute Russia realized they were losing, that's retarded and a sign that the OP ate paint chickpeas a kid.

I hate slavabos as much as the next guy but a nuclear war is next level autism. Instead just give Russia 20 years and half of them will have drank themselves to death and a quarter will have abandoned the country for someplace that isn't a kleptocracy.

>>33132975
While going to war with Russia would be retarded, not containing then like they were /b's retarded sociopathic little brother would be a huge mistake.

You don't give a disease freedom to grow - No matter how tingly pictures of a shirtless manlet like Putin make you feel in your bathing suit area.

>>33131673
I also recommend the movie threads for everyone hellbent on nuclear war. You can find the full movie on Vimeo

>>33134292
>>posts closetedfaggot.jpg and calls others liberals.

I kek'd

>>33130502
no.

nukes.

>>33132052
>Buisnessman has ties to russian buisnessmen
>Who obviously will have ties to Putin, or the goverment.

>>33134751
Agree with you on China. They are a larger, certainly smarter threat than Russia. They also have the capital to modernize their military in bulk, and they play the geo-political and economic warfare games at a level that is impressive..

Islamic State are guys in a desert who captured land and weapons and then didn't know what to do with any of it. Can you picture them building a fighter? How about a submarine? How about a functional deep state that can provide for a continual, logistically driven warfare on multiple fronts? The great European powers of the first war had that ability and they would get rolled today by Finland's army if they went head-to-head so let's not pretend IS is anything other than tards with a knife fetish. The sheer zealotry with which they devote themselves to their middleage, dead-end religion precludes them from ever representing an existential threat to a well armed first world country. Do you think ISIS is ever going to roll tanks through the Midwest?

North Korea can be contained until either China tires of them and annexes or absorbs them or the regime collapses from within. In the event they do decide to go out in a blaze of glory, they will quickly get the Hiroshima make-over.

Russia is dangerous because in 10 to 15 years, after oil prices are even further deflated than what they are now, the top government officials have finished stealing anything that isn't nailed down, no effort has been made to deversify their economy past oil and weapons export, there won't be anything left to offer the people who actually live there. If you're Putin (or whoever has replaced him at that point) you are facing either a revolt or you'll need a distraction. Something like invading western Europe or starting a global war.

Are you sure you aren't almost as retarded as the person you responded to?

>>33136141

>you'll need a distraction. Something like invading western Europe or starting a global war.

I have to disagree with that. Major war will fuck up economy even more and will lead to revolt even faster.

>>33130502

>already get cucked by sandniggers
>now wanting to fuck up with Russians

I'm not paying tax for warlike shits.

>>33130502
I've never met a Russian who I didn't get along with, and their women a drop-dead gorgeous. Why would I want to kill those people?

>>33136645
You met like one russian didnt you?

>>33130562
Every Russian soldier is machine gunner. Machine gun > rifle.

>>33131263
That's not how you spell Israel.

>>33134580
>Still believe in esteblishment will allow Trump to make friends with designated enemy country

>>33136779
The US government disagrees with you. Israel is one of America's most important allies.

>>33136862
I'm a bad goy, though.

>>33130502
Valid military argument = fags, SJW's, trannies, and millenials comprise most of our fighting force. Support roles are mainly entitled females.

My son-in-law just finished USAF basic, one nephew USMC boot camp, and another nephew US Army boot camp. All three reported barely handling a firearm except to clean it; shot it once (twice for USMC). Other weapons training was book study plus showing up for a demonstration. Otherwise, the most military-type training any of them did was making their beds, marching, running, doing parade drills, and taking care of their uniforms and dorm rooms.

All reported (yes, even USMC) that more total time was devoted to sensitivity training and how to acceptably interact with homosexual, female, and transgender recruits than was devoted to weapons training, tactics, or field skills.

I fear that a well trained "real" military with a tenth of our numbers could beat us on the battlefield if it weren't for our superior technology. Time will tell whether our presently superior tech is something everyone has tomorrow.

>>33136645
>their women a drop-dead gorgeous
Yeah but they age twice as fast

>>33130502
>Their nuclear arsenal is likely nonfunctional after years of sanctions

What the fuck are you even talking about, bro? You have zero fucking concept. I normally wouldn't give a shit, but how abut blather on about moronic speculation that can't get the world destroyed.

The Russkies actually are not only NOT our enemies, they might be the last saving grace as a potential ally that doesn't bend to politically correct bullshit. I'm happy the US, Canada, Australia, and the UK generally stick together, but not one of us really has much to fear from Russia. Know who does? Fucking mudslime terrorist types. And guess which of the current Allies backs down and moderates their military response due to social justice concerns? Fucking EVERY ONE OF US.

>>33136691
Plotwist: he only met ukraines and confused them for russians.

>>33136862
...and they've had their backs against the wall way too long. Building an "iron dome" missile defense while the Palestinians are lobbing incoming fire every fucking day. Time for Israel to go full badass with the support of some major world powers who will quit bowing to Muslims.

>>33136728
Every russian soldier is an alcohol addled, poorly paid, press-ganged manlet who isn't given enough ammo for his gun you mean.

>>33130502
>their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions

Time to change your bong water.

>>33137286
you're back?

>>33137315
Occasionally.

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>>33130502
Only one: it's easier to wait until Russia's economy grinds itself to death. Russia's haemorrhaging cash due to sanctions and its sovereign wealth fund is going to go bust pretty soon. Once that's empty Bresident Budin :DDD is going to have to fall back on loans or Russia's state pension pot to pay off his oligarch friendos. And when that's run out, well, let's just say Russia's in for a fun time.

pic related, wirtschaft = German for economy

>>33137286
>Oppie telling fag OP to fuck off.
I love you Oppie, I want to bear your kind.

>>33131263
Fuck off back to 35 years ago you stupid burger.

I guess "NEVER AGAIN" means nothing, when you look at what is happening in aleppo and then people dont want to stop it. makes me want to kick their fucking ass

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>>33130683

Ukraine produced most of russia's precision manufacturing for the military - once the warsaw pact broke up Russia basically lost its ability to produce new nukes, only swap out parts on their old ones from their finite supplies and try to assemble new systems from those same finite supplies.

That's basically why Putin wanted Ukraine so bad and had a puppet installed there - the long term russian plan was to use oil revenue to pay for rebuilding the manufacturing capabilities of the russian military industrial complex, and in the mean time import new parts from Ukraine again.

Getting their boy deposed and the oil slump basically fucked them on both fronts, stalling all of the military build up Putin wants.

To add insult ot injury, the US handed Putin lots of uranium before all that, which stopped Putin from starting the rebuilding of Russia's uranium production centers.

It's kinda funny how BTFO Putin was under Obama.

>>33131326

Why not buy american and get a real aesthetic gun?

>>33131458
>believes everything CNN told him>>33131467

>>33137286
Oppie, what on Earth is your field and how do I get into it?

USA people live 3 times better lives than Russia people
in the past, 5 times better than USSR people
and you still want to wreck them?

>>33137662
>le CNN meme
>pls suck russian shill cock

>>33137597
>Russia basically lost its ability to produce new nukes,
Sarov isn't in Ukraine.

>>33137662

CNN is world class journalism, russia media just has shills and propagenda

>>33137953
Russia Today
Even the name is a fraud, "crititcal" news about anything but Russia.

>>33137994
That is why we must fact check these propaganda when seen, and leverage congress to take a strong step against russia

>>33131501
>freedom is bad
Is this what /k/ has come to?

>>33137885
Russia opposes the fact that Americans have better lives, just for the sake of a dick measuring contest.

>>33138100
No, Putin is just butthurt that USSR collapsed and nobody was taking Russia seriously anymore for about a decade

>>33137914

Yet.

>>33138113
Which is what I said. They want to be in the big dick league again, and that's in direct contradiction with the world position of the US, which also guarantees their high quality lifestyle.

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>>33135459
>Radiation dissipates within 30 seconds

>>33135459
Even with the cleanest air burst possible the amount of lingering radiation is immediately lethal for a few hours before becoming simply hazardous.

>>33138194
This is incorrect.
Airbursts do not produce areas of fallout intense enough to kill.

Surfaces bursts do.

> their nuclear arsenal is likely non functional after years of sanctions
Are you legit retarded?

This board is ridiculously easy to bait.

>>33134835
It's been 70 years since WWII. Please re-read.

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Another request of slavshit. No problem.

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>>33138324

>>33130502
Land War In Asia.

Seems like that story has been written time and again.

>>33131790
Not an arguement.

>>33138552
Since when?

>>33136955
not real at all
you're delusional

>>33137597
Ukraine was a manufacturing base for a lot of engines and reactors, but definitely not the only one.
Russia has equivalents, as does Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan - both of which maintain fantastic relations with Russia.
Hence why Russia hasn't had any issues replacing their jet engines, it maintaining their nuclear reactors, or casing new nuclear weapons.

>>33130502
For fuck's sake.

>>33137597

You didn't answer the point because you've fundamentally misunderstood what is being said so that you may grandstand with your half baked knowledge.

>>33132360
>>33132360
WHATS YOUR POINT

I didn't vote for him but I cannot for the life of me figure out what you're trying to point out.

That we should go to war with Russia even though we're still in Afghanistan? Even though we're stil reeling back from the failure of Iraq?

The Hillary was a better option so that we can continue with the destabilization of the Middle East? That we should've voted for a third party that didn't have a snowballs chance in hell but should anyways so we can feel good about it?

Just what the fuck are you trying to prove outside of rustling the trumpers feathers?

The way I see it, they were caught between a rock and a hard place, vote Trump and maybe things will get better or vote Hillary and continue with the downfall of the country and, most importantly, chipping away at our gun rights or vote for a third party that wouldn't have won anyways but at least you can brag about it.

>>33141894
and also, this isn't weapons related, fuck of to /pol/ with this shit

>>33141742
not an argument, vatnik