Anyone want to help me figure out when the commercial P08

>>33128892
We could if you post more pics.

>>33128934
What do you need?

>>33128892
Serials in exposed positions like that lead me to believe it's a military gun - or a parts gun.

Post some more photos and I will tell you what I can discern from them.

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>>33128946
It's a .30 Luger barrel btw and has definitely been refinished. Wartime parts with a commercial barrel maybe?

>>33128946
Also it's definitely a parts gun, just trying to find out when the frame/receiver are from

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>>33129011
This serial matches up with the back of the toggle

>>33128968
Crown-N nitro proof was used from 1906 to the late 1920's when it switch to Crown-U.

Looks like a 1920's commercial upper on a military lower. I'll do a bit more digging and see if I can narrow it down. Is there a stock lug on the grip frame?

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>>33129073
There is, however it was apparently ground down (myfuckingballs.svg)

>>33129090
I've seen that before. It was a fear in the 70's and 80's that if a pistol had a stock lug it could be construed as a short barrel rifle - so some folks felt it was wise to mutilate them.

Your barrel, barrel extension and toggle are from a 1920 Commercial. Since it has a letter suffix, the barrel extension and toggle were unused military parts that were assembled postwar into a commercial pistol.

>>33129177
Nice, thank you for the information sir!

>>33129090
There is still a bit of original straw left on the small parts of the grip frame (takedown lever, trigger, safety lever, magazine release) which indicates pre-1937 production. Since the rear edge of the frame (behind the safety - when looking at it from the side) is flat, it's pre-1931 production. Since it has military markings I'd venture a guess the grip frame is WWI military and DWM since it doesn't have the Erfurt proofs on the small parts. Since it has a stock lug, we can narrow it down to 1914-1918.

>>33129277
Wow, that's really interesting. Glad the guy wanted to trade!

>>33129277
Any idea on it's worth? Bore is bright and shiny

>>33129335
Since it's mismatched it's considered 'shooter grade' rather than 'collector grade'. It's superior to a complete mismatch parts-bin gun, as the upper and lower are complete, matched assemblies. In today's market I would still expect it to fetch somewhere between $600-800.

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Fellow p08 commercial owner here.
I believe mine is a 1921 DWM.
All matching plenty of straw left.
My problem is that the wooden base plate for the magazine is split and all kinds of dicked up. What is a suitable replacement?

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>>33130752
Either get one of the generic wooden replacement bases from Northridge Int'l, watch eBay and Gunbroker for a replacement part, or contact Gerald Tomek about a reproduction base. He's got the proper jigs and tooling to make authentic bases. It's been years since I last spoke with him, so I can't say if he's still in the business, though.

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My artillery luger has commercial import marks on both sides of the frame. but is a 1917 military gun.

>>33130838
Thanks for the info Tripfag. I will investigate these options.

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>>33128892
Hey I wanna hijack this thread from OP and see where my luger is from, its not marked on the toggle so I cant really figure it out. Its a 9mm Luger, I'm curious to see around what time it was made.

>>33128892
anyone have the cap of the guy who painted his luger like the Israeli flag?

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>>33129177
So would it make it illegal to put a stock on a pre-nfa produced luger?

>>33131219
Your pistol was an Erfurt wartime pistol, 1914-1918. It's a postwar army rework, DWM scrubbed the chamber dates for issue to the Weimar Reichswehr. These were made in violation of the Versailles treaty.

>>33132900
It's a violation to install a stock on a 4" Luger. A few are exempted from NFA regulation, including the Navy pistols (with Navy stocks) and Artillery pistols (with Artillery stocks).

>>33132942
Sweet man, thanks any idea on the value?

>>33133107
It should have an Erfurt marked toggle and serial/proof marked sideplate, so it appears those have been replaced postwar.

A correct Erfurt no-date rework should fetch around $750-1000, I'd expect the non-matching parts would knock it down 10-20%.

>>33133250
And if you dont mind sharing, how are you this knowledgable? I wouldnt even know where to begin with this kind of stuff

>>33133349
Reference books, price guides, fellow collectors and my own personal experience.