Hey, /k/. I'm looking at the pic related. What do you recommend

>>33108178
Decocker all the way, unless you really like cocked and locked.

>>33108195
This isn't looking to be a carry gun, just a range or to just shoot. What are the advantages of the decocker?

>>33108255
For a range gun, none.
Unless you just want to learn to shoot a gun with two different trigger pulls.

>>33108255
Yeah it's really only advantageous for a carry piece. Still get it though, its fun to have and show other people. Nearly all my friends have never seen a decocker type or a no safety gun that wasn't a glock.

>>33108428
Is it worth it for a first time gun?

>>33108178
safety always safety.
its so much easier to reassemble the safety version from a full detail strip. the decockers a bitch that has 3 springs riding on the same pin that all have to be lined up or the decocker wont work.
cz75s are trivially easy to manually decock too.

>>33108853
What is the difference for shooting no cock, half cocked, and cocked and locked?

>>33108945
trigger pull
its never going to be at no cock unless you dryfired
decocking on a 75 drops it to half cock
half cocked is the decocked

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>>33108178
Get the sp-01 tactical.
It's the decocker model
A few are on Deguns right now as well.

I honestly suggest the Cz 75b omega or p-01 Omega.
They have far superior triggers and the ability to go from a decocker to a safety.

A superb range gun For sure.

I CC mine, but there are far better options like the p-01 or Cz 2075.

>>33109089
not looking for a compact though

>>33109089
also which is the superior range, decock or safety??

>>33109382
A p-01 is a fairly large gun.
But, the 75b Omega is a full-size gun.

The weakest part of a sp-01 is the trigger man.
Super long pull and reset

The omega trigger fixes that

>>33109390
The manual safety sp-01s have a slightly better trigger.
I've never used the safety on my gun ever, so it's kinda pointless.

>>33108178
bump

>>33108178
Safety. What's the point of a decocker on a hammer gun?

>>33109762
no idea, that's the point of the thread, and the only guns that can be found online are the decocker version

Safety unless you're too scared to thumb down the hammer.

>>33109803
do you just hold the hammer and let it down to do that?

>>33109880
>safety off
>round in chamber
>grab hammer for dear life
>pull trigger
>move hammer forward very fucking carefully

or, get the decocker.

>>33109880
Hold hammer, pull and hold trigger and SLOWLY alow the hammer to reset

>>33108178
Ideally, they would figure out a way to give users the option to have both a decocker and safety, or alternate between the two, like you can with the HK USP.

If you really have NO IDEA, then use this flow chart:

>#1 Do you ever intend to carry the pistol?
Yes: Proceed to #2
No: Buy the thumb safety model

>#2 Do you prefer DA/SA or cocked-and-locked carry?
DA/SA: Proceed to #3
Cocked-and-locked: Buy the thumb safety model
I don't know the difference: Buy some other gun

>#3 Are you comfortable pinching the hammer and pulling the trigger on a loaded chamber to decock the hammer when readying the weapon for hammer-down carry?
Yes: Proceed to #4
No, that sounds scary: Buy the decocker model

>#4 Do you think an external safety on a handgun could ever be a liability (i.e., getting accidentally engaged while carrying with it off)?
Yes: Buy the decocker model
No: Buy the safety model

>>33109762
Round in chamber with no safety on. It's for if you're carrying. Don't have to worry about disengaging the safety and the trigger pull is heavy enough decocked that NDing isn't a worry.

>>33109880
stick finger or something between slide and hammer
pull trigger so the hammer releases
let go of trigger completely
remove finger thats in between slide and hammer
hammer drops to half since nothing touching the trigger
>>33109908
>>33109931
is the suckers way

>>33109880
And this is how people ND. I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm just saying people ND like this.

>>33109908
>>33109931
That sounds incredibly unsafe.

>>33110002
It sounds like you would prefer the decocker model.

>>33109949
>Ideally, they would figure out a way to give users the option to alternate between the two
this is the omega

>>33110022
Yes, I know. They don't make an SP-01 Omega, though.

>>33110022
And also, the Omega doesn't give you a safety and decocker at the same time. You have to alternate.

>>33110054
The only thing i can think of that would give you both at the same time would be a USP, but you're gonna take a big hit on capacity compared to an SP-01.

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>>33110022
Only the ugly new Omegas with the squared off hammer.

The old ones that have normal ring hammers are not convertible

>>33109880
You pull the trigger with your thumb on the hammer, lower thr hammer halfway down with your thumb, release the trigger, then release hammer. If you're worried you'll fuck it up aim at your balls. You'll be extra careful that way.

>>33110124
taurus pt92s do it

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>>33110155
>If you're worried you'll fuck it up aim at your balls. You'll be extra careful that way.

>>33110124
FNX-9. It's basically a modern USP.
Taurus M9 clone.
Something Chiappa I think.

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>>33110174
>FNX
That capacity comes at the cost of a certain thickness vital to nylon plastic guns.
>SQUISHY SQUISHY

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>>33110124
The FN FNX is basically a copy of the USP's firing system concept and allows for either hammer down DA/SA carry or cocked-and-locked carry. Also, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the AREX Rex Zero pistols are set up for both decocker use and a thumb safety that doesn't decock the hammer.

>>33110157
I have never handled a Taurus PT92, but I am fairly certain this is not correct. I have handled a Beretta 84, which I believe the Taurus is modeled after, in terms of the safety design, and it does not allow for cocked-and-locked carry. At first glance, it appears to be like a 1911 safety, but when you actually go to engage the safety upward, it decocks the hammer. Thus, you have two positions: 1) UP = safe & decocked, and 2) DOWN = fire.

>>33108759
If you're gonna carry it

>>33109974
I get that but the thumb safety on the sp01 is amazing and I don't think it affects my readiness at all

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>>33110002
I wouldn't say it's as bad as riding the bolt forward on an open bolt weapon system, but I personally bought a decocker.

>>33110234
>Also, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the AREX Rex Zero pistols are set up for both decocker use and a thumb safety that doesn't decock the hammer.

yes, they have a safety where a 226 has a slide release and the decocker pushes up to function as a slide release.

>>33110234
>The FN FNX is basically a copy of the USP's firing system concept and allows for either hammer down DA/SA carry or cocked-and-locked carry. Also, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the AREX Rex Zero pistols are set up for both decocker use and a thumb safety that doesn't decock the hammer.
>>33110124
>The only thing i can think of that would give you both at the same time would be a USP
There are a few HK pistols that have a DA/SA set up with both a safety and decocker and allow for cocked and locked carry.

>>33110268
Don't get me wrong, its shooter preference and I don't think there's a real right or wrong answer. Just that that's why people like decockers.

Really it's less important then what you're comfortable with and what you train with.

>>33109988
I mean sure, you can also wear a helmet and a seat belt when you drive.

>>33110641
>not wearing a helmet all the time
I bet you don't have a gas mask on right now either. Do you even take safety seriously?