New version... >tfw northern New England is now a contiguous

>>33094484
NRA is suing the AGs office in MA.

We might see some light during the Trump administration.

New Hampshire joined VT and ME in becoming a constitutional carry state, eh? Good to hear.

>>33094484

NY has a SAFE Act SCOTUS case pending. They were just waitimg for Scalia's seat to be filled

>>33094484
MA should be updated to shall issue, it used to be that the ultimate decision was up to the local chief, but with the new law (not the commie ag's interpretation but an actual law that was passed two years ago) that if the chief can't provide a disqualifying reason based on the back ground check then the LTC must be issued.

1 step forward and 10 steps back in this state...

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>>33094484
tfw MD

>>33094924
From what I've heard, your Circuit (?) Court just upheld your AWB on grounds directly contradictory to the tests set forth in Miller and Heller, so the suit is SCOTUS bound, where it won't be upheld once Gorsuch is seated.

So NH and Main are now constitutional carry? Really this will make my day.

>>33094484
Oregon is going to get fucked, we have a bill in our legislature that would make us May Issue again.

>>33095488
Maine's been Constitutional for about a year; NH literally passed it yesterday.

>>33095336
Maybe.

Court didn't take several other AWB cases while Scalia was on alive.

Rumor is Kennedy had a change of heart on the 2nd Amendment after Sandy Hook, and that's why Roberts and Alito have been letting the cases go. Might be best to just wait until Ginsburg or Breyer or Kennedy himself kick the bucket.

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>tfw live in Assachusetts

>>33094893
But there's no limit for restrictions on the permits, a chief could just as easily restrict you to a target shooting permit only. Which I wouldn't consider to be a "Carry" Permit

>>33095868
>tfw live in Britain

>>33094484
>mfw my governor is pretty cool on almost all issues
>yet he vetoed Constitutional Carry two years in a row
FUCKING WHY

>>33095892
No, any restrictions must be justified.

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>>33094484
Yorker here.
Only reason we aren't as free as the surrounding states is those faggots on Long Island feel the need to justify the term "Empire State".

When you have to invade California in a few years could you send some people our way?
Thanks

>>33096197
>justified
Lefties and statists will bend over backwards to find a way to "justify" their decisions and beliefs.

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>>33094893
>>33095868
Don't feel too bad. Hell I just got my permit in RI and that was fucking ridiculous

>>33096354
Maybe we can help you /k/omrade
If /pol/ can use meme warfare to elect a president, maybe /k/ can meme NYC to secede from the rest of the state?

>>33096618
We can't risk anything just yet.
Our top memeologists haven't reached consensus on if the distributions of meme magic are shared between all boards or if each one has its own reserves, the rate at which it passively replenishes or if it requires certain actions to be performed, etc.
>>33096354
Hang in there, Yorkfag.

>>33096618
You clearly underestimate how shitty the Capitol region is.

I used to work in the Berkshires and we would pick up the capitol region radio stations. Holy shit, what a bunch of fucking liberal faggots. I had to stop listening to the radio after a bit because I couldn't handle the spike in my blood pressure.

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>>33094484
>mfw Pennsylvanian
Relatively stable carry laws AND I get to hunt with an AR next year. So exite.

>>33094484
WA fag here
O honestly don't care about unrestricted Carry.
It's so easy to get a CC permit in WA, so.
20min and $60 and ur good for a year

>>33096831
>$60/yr for your rights
>honestly don't care
people like you are why the west coast is fucked

>>33096831
what? $100 gets me 6 years in a commie state... you're getting extra fuck WA bro

>>33096584
are you a cop/related to a cop?

I've literally never heard of anybody else getting theirs in that state in any other way

>>33096831

It was $10 for 4 years in NH, now it's CC because people cared

>KYS

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>>33094823
YESSSSSSS

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>>33096584
Nope just applied to my town. Here have proof.

>>33094484
>Kentucky and Tennessee not green

Hurry UP YOU ASSHOLES

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>>33096865
Whoops wrong person. Front

>>33097014
>>33096992
>living in Rhode Island
Who the fuck does this. Only reason anyone knows it even exists is because Family Guy takes place there

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>>33096865
The application was fucking arduous mostly because of my reference letters. Then I went in front of the public safety tribunal.

>>33096992
>Pistol or revolver
>Handgun or handgun
What the fuck. A pistol is, by definition, any firearm that is easily fired with one hand. I know "automatic handgun or revolver" probably sounds too lengthy but this triggers me

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>>33097044
Dude life is suffering because of the gov. and her cronys. Not to mention the apathy to change anything round here. I hope to move like any true Rogue Islander.

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>>33097078
Bro it's not even a card. When I picked it up they printed it on copy paper and laminated it while I waited. Not to mention the typos on my height and my caliber (I qualified with a .45 LC)

>>33097078
>Pistol or revolver
It's pretty common wording in a lot of legal statutes.

>A pistol is a type of handgun. In some usage, the term "pistol" refers to a subset of handguns: those with a chamber integral with the barrel. In other usage, the term is interchangeable with "handgun".

>>33096584
>>33096865
Me neither. The application require a valid reason to carry and self defense is explicitly excluded.

>>33095892
>>33096522

It's called Appeals court dumbass. Almost every single appeal on this issue filed is granted.

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>>33097014
Caliber qualified? Does that mean you can only carry .45? Would you have to hand whatever gun you're carrying to a cop to inspect for the right caliber?

Plus, .45 what? ACP? LC? Super? Winchester Magnum? SMC? Peters-Thompson shot cartridge?

>>33097112
>.45 LC

bore size is all that matters, but that's hilarious.

>>33097525

no it means you can use any cartridge with that bore size or smaller

I almost went with my uncles Deagle until I found out how many rounds I needed to fire.

and yes, we all know it's retarded.

>>33097544
But what if one day you carried a 9mm, and a cop spotted you and asked to see your CCW permit? Would they then check to see if you're carrying the right cartridge size by asking to see your pistol?

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>>33097605
You'll be the first to know when it happens anon

>>33097525
he's qualified to carry a mk 45 deck gun

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>>33097424
Funny enough they didn't even ask the "Why do I want this permit?" In fact they asked me why I didn't get this permit first (because I was licensed in FL,MA,UT). I straight up told them that it was the pervading wisdom that it was difficult to get and they said "since when?" Needless to say I was dumbfounded and they told me to stop listening to fake news and they had approved hundreds of permits last year. So yeah there goes misinfo for ya.

>>33094484
ND has constitutional carry going through state legislation right now. The big caveats are that you'd have to inform a police officer at the start of your interaction that you're carrying, and you'd have to have been a resident w/state ID for a year

Here's to hoping!

>>33097863
Can I ask which PD you went through? Because a reason to carry is straight up printed on the applications I've seen.

>>33097995
Nigga it's on the permit

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>>33097878
South Dakota's Legislature has passed Constitutional Carry twice now, and about to do it a third time probably but the dipshit Governor keeps vetoing it.

On the bright side the ATF just approved our Gold Card Permits and 'Enhanced' Permit today to be NICS Exempt.

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>Montana would have had constitutional carry by now if wasn't for all the faggot governors constantly vetoing the bills

>>33094484
Hawaii's actually a may-issue only on paper; HPD's official policy is to never issue licenses to civilians. The form to apply is there, but they'll straight up tell you, "You're wasting your time."

>>33098064
New Hampshire was the same way. Two different governors vetoed it.

It was kind of hilarious though, the previous governor ran for Senate instead, and Bloomberg threw shitloads of money at her, and she wound up winning. But because she's no longer governor, we got a new one, and he finally fucking signed the legislation.

Hilarious own goal by the antifags.

>>33097995
>he can't read The City of Warwick

>>33097863
I would imagine it varies from town to town like MA used to before the law supposedly forced the red towns to step in line.

Warwick is pretty close to that border of urban RI to the real fucking quick switch to "there isn't shit here but swamp" RI

>>33097863
Yeah but doesn't RI have decentralized permitting like a lot of those retard Northeastern states? So in the areas where 98% of the people live it's run by libs who hate guns and won't issue permits but in the boonies the police out there don't care and have always issued permits?

>>33098108
>in an electiom decided by only 1,000 votes studies estimate nearly 6,000 out of staters voted

>>33098158
Don't worry about it goy

But Ayotte deserved to lose anyway for trying to throw Trump under the bus.

>>33096841
>>33096850
>Being this poor
I'm not a rich man myself
But $60 a year is nothing

>>33098069
That's better than Maryland, who says on paper that you need a reason like

>you are a lawyer who put a murderer in jail, and they are now released
>you are a railroad cop
>you routinely transfer large amounts of cash (think bar owner, 7/11 manager etc)
>someone wants to kill you
>pharmacist who moves large volumes of drugs
>be politically connected

>>33098158
Ayotte didn't support Trump, she got punished

Same with the losers in Illinois and Nevada

>>33098229
it's not about being poor, it's about getting cucked by a cucked state that's using those $60 dollars a year to pay for fucking illegal immigrants to live there for free

>>33098229
it's not the amount that matters
it's the basic principle of being forced to pay to not be punished for exercising your basic fucking rights

>>33098229
>Washington just announced they will become a Sanctuary State
But you're not poor right so who cares, you'll pay for those illegal aliens right

>>33098248
>elect gun grabbers instead

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>>33098252
>>33098254
You guys sure seem to care about pocket change.
>>33098271
Didn't Trump already say that won't be a thing

>>33098338
Again, it's a matter of principle, not practicality. This is something that a spineless bootlicker like you might never understand, but some people actually have morals.

>>33098277
Illinois and Nevada are already lost

New Hampshire was actually saved by electing Ayotte's opponent, as already pointed out

>>33098369
what? she wasn't going to remain governor if she lost the senate race so literally nothing about their CC status would be different now than it would be if ayotte was elected

>>33098338
>It's only sixty dollars


>It's only a ban on high capacity mags
>it's only a ban on removable mags
>It's only a ban on semi-autos
>It's only a ban on clip fed mags
>Its only a ban on repeaters
>It's only a ban on non muzzle-loaders
>It's only a ban on high caliber muzzle-loaders

>>33098615
>False equivalence: the post

That $60 doesn't take away any of my rights, it gives me the right to carry.

>Not an argument.jpg

>>33098723
the state doesn't give you rights fuckwad, it only takes them away, by not paying the ransom you are losing your right to carry your firearm as you see fit.

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>tfw MA-fag
If I already have an unrestricted (fucking really?) LTC issued by my hometown, can I just move to Boston and be able to carry/own guns in the city to my heart's content, or do I have to get a new license because I changed my address?

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>>33098723
No, nothing in government gives you the right; you're born with it. As a human being, you have the right to self defense. The Bill of Rights just makes it legally protected, and fucking assholes have tricked you into believing that this basic right is something the government gets to tax and regulate because they've taught you to think that this is something they grant you.

>>33096831
>>33096841
>>33096850
its good for 5 years, that anon is stupid.

>>33098823
You have to get a new license and the cops in and around the city are shitty about permits. I don't live there but I looked into getting a permit while I stayed at my brother's in Medford.

>>33094484
>tfw Wisconsin

I'll do what I want.

Many serial killers came from Wisconsin.

>>33098723
Setting a fiscal barrier between a citizen and the rights to which they are entitled as a human being is an odious practice, to say the least, no matter how small the price.

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>>33098723
It's like what if you had to pay your state government $60 to worship whatever god you chose? And then banned any religion that scared them, like Pentecostals? Because they went over some arbitrarily limit on amount of Jesus wafers the government made up, or some shit. And there were certain areas you weren't allowed in if you wore your god's symbol. That would be fucked up.

>>33098933
hes retarded. i just got my cpl in WA and it was $52 and good for 5 years.

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>tfw CA and not in a position to move yet

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>>33098943
Oh, I totally understand. I paid $50 for my five year VA CCW permit. But I had to grit my teeth and take a shot over the sheer gall of them charging me $50 for something that's my basic human right that's legally protected in the Constitution.

>>33099035
i get what you're saying, i just feel obligated to correct that idiot.

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>>33099073
I'm all about correcting idiots. Good on ya, keep up the good work.

>>33098859
>>33098823
no you don't, but you do have to officially change your address and they give a change of address sticker or some shit.

but when you go to renew be prepared for them to fuck with you

>>33096584
Any tips for fellow quahogfags?

>>33098855
>>33098943

CC permit literally says it expires in 2018.
So that's 1 year

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>>33098723
>gives me the right

>>33099623
>How long is a Washington concealed weapon permit valid for?
>The Washington concealed weapon permit shall be valid throughout the state for a period of five (5) years from the date of issuance.

>>33096790
Hunt what? Why prefer an AR over something more accurate?

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>>33094484
So I don't support unrestricted Constitutional carry.

It's idiotic to allow anyone to CC without proper training

There had to be some sort of test to show you are proficient with a whepon.

Something simple like: drawing and firing 5 shots on target then reholstering without shooting yourself.

Passing a simple written test with laws and conditions Evey state has.

The last thing we need is a bunch of fat gun owners accidently shooting themselves or others because that state allows any moron to carry

>>33099873
So I don't support unrestricted Constitutional speech.

It's idiotic to allow anyone to talk without proper training

There had to be some sort of test to show you are proficient with words

Something simple like: writing sentences then posting without offending anyone

Passing a simple written test with laws and conditions Evey state has.

The last thing we need is a bunch of fat facebook owners accidentally offending themselves or others because that state allows any moron to talk

>>33099907
5/10 OK effort
But still flawed logic

The right to C Carry is not in the bill of rights, free speech is.

Free speech is also limited
Especially in the case of potential loss of life.
- threatening to kill someone
- Screaming "bomb" in an airport

My point stands.
Letting any untrained moron carry a gun is idiotic and will cause more harm than Good.

>>33100247
> Not in Bill of Rights
> "Shall not be infringed"

>The right to C Carry is not in the bill of rights, free speech is.
What part of "keep and bear arms" do you not understand?

>>33100262
>>33100264
The 2nd amendment does not guarantee the right to concealed carry.

>>33100385
Guaranteeing the right to bear arms and then taking that away by degrees by adding definitions as to what sort of bearing of arms is acceptable is kinda chickenshit, don't you think?

>>33100385
What does the word "bear" mean to you? I mean other than the fat hairy guy who fucks you in the ass every night.

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>>33100492
>>33100505
Sry buy the supreme Court ruling specially states self-defense in the home.

You guys can't possibly argument against the supreme Court.

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>>33100798
Yes, of course. Can't possibly "argument" against the supreme court, that'd be daft.

Sure am glad Plessy v. Ferguson was never overturned and those blacks are still kept in their place, hoo boy. What a nightmare world that'd be. Can't beat them supreme court rulings.

>>33094683
I fucking hope so. Getting LTC soon too so should be good.

>>33095668
Kate Brown lynching party when?

>>33099332
On how to get it? Just fill out the paperwork and submit it. It varies from town to town (I didn't even think to get the AG permit because OH WOW OPEN CARRY!!!.) If anything definitely go through your town or (if you have other permits from other states any town) and follow what's on the packet. For the "letter of need" I literally put my life story and all things I have done with guns (instructor, range safety officer, multiple permits). They didn't even ask "Why I need to carry" just simple clarification on some points I made in my letter.

>>33101841
>>33095668

We can rejoice when national reciprocity passes Congress, Republicans are being a bunch of limp dicks now but when the NRA says jump Republicans and vulnerable Democrats ask how high?

>>33094484
Important question: I'm a Manefag who may be traveling out of state soon. I CC here, no permit. Can I keep carrying into NH and VT?

>>33101921
As long as you're over 21 and not otherwise prohibited, then yes. The laws in all three states apply to both residents and non-residents.

I love how the further northeast you go in this country, the stupider the gun laws get, until you reach peak retardation in NY and MA, and then suddenly you break through and ts like it loops back around as you find yourself in the gun rights utopia of northern New England.

>>33097089
Damn sounds like a worse version of Delaware

>>33099819
An average AR is plenty accurate / powerful for shots up to 250 yards on medium sized game like deer and pigs with a decent scope, farther if you're using a long match barreled AR with heavier bullets. They're also very light and compact so they're great for walking around innawoods for miles at a time. I use a 16" barreled AR here in Texas for hunting feral hogs at night where I might walk 4-5 miles through fields and woods, sometimes I'll use it for deer hunting if I'm in a wooded area and won't have many shots available over 150 yards.

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>>33096831
>>33096850
>>33096924
>>33098723
>>33098855
>>33098943
>>33099035
>TFW my NY permit does not expire
>The Post Office did deliver it directly to a snowbank, but that is a deferent story

>>33102448
*different
Thanks, phone.

>>33100798
>You guys can't possibly argument against the supreme Court.

OK so you don't have any understanding of the US legal system then

>>33102448
>occupation
>employer

Why is that even relevant to a CCW ID?

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>Southern Cuckifornia
>based sheriff handing out cc's like candy
I see the light at the end of the tunnel lads

>>33102647
Maybe they want to make sure you're a financially stable, upstanding citizen and not some hermit who lives off the grid in a shack in the woods or a welfare king who lives on gov't bennies. Not sure why that would really matter either though to be honest.

>>33102647
I asked that. Apparently there is some kind of state regularity reason. The clerk and I agreed that it was odd, as the permit never gets reviewed and people change jobs all the time.

>>33098933
>like pentecostals
>tfw I used to go to a pentacostal church

>>33102695
Well for the initial application when you're getting your permit it makes sense but to have it printed on the permit seems pointless. Also nationality? As opposed to a non-New Yorker, non-US citizen?

You'd think they'd list eye color, hair color, race/ethnicity, sex, etc like a normal driver's license too.

>>33096994
You underestimate the people's repulic of Louisville, and Memphis is becoming a hipster nest

>>33100247
>the right to CC is not in the bill of rights
Oh im sorry, i forgot that a piece of paper is the only thing that legitimizes my existence as a human being.

I have the right to CC, with or without the constitution. I don't need the government's opinion on the matter

>>33102784
GOP has majority in KY state government, Louisville can't do shit, they're an island in a conservative sea

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/02/dean-weingarten/constitutional-carry-bill-kentucky-pulled-consideration/

>>33097486
>having to get cleo approval
>having to fight that decision in court
>WE SHOULD BE SHALL ISSUE
yeah fuck off retard

>>33094823
Link? Proof?

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>>33094484
>Wisconsin

Feels bad living in a state that is conservative to the point of resisting any type of change. On the plus side, we are a pretty good gun state.

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>>33099819
It's more for the novelty of it. We haven't been allowed to hunt durr with a semiauto for nearly 400 years.

>tfw might need to move to DC for work
How fucked are my rights about to be?

>>33103840
pretty fucked bro

>>33103895
It's pretty neat that our nation's capital is one of the worst places in the country for our rights. This shit is as bad as California, maybe worse before parts of the ammo restriction thing got changed.

>>33103922
Lots of blacks and liberal government workers in DC

Lots of Hispanics, legal and illegal too, I think

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>>33100247
Letting an untrained, moronic press run around is idiotic and will cause more harm than good.

Yet here we are.

>>33102759
I just grabbed a somewhat unorthodox Christian church. Pentecostals are weird to me, with the speaking in tongues and visions crap, but I've never had a real issue with the church as a whole.