How bad could Falljuah have been if the Iraqi's had even more time, supplies, and morale to prepare.
That is Saddam wanted to turn it into a "modern day stalingrad", with miles of trench and obstacle complexes, underground tunnels with provisions and ammunition, a fanatical local populace, and a gun behind every window.
Saddam was long gone by the time Fallujah started.
More dead Americans and civilians, more airstrikes and very little of the city left after
>>33056726
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1994–95)
this but with air support.
>>33057504
Not really, the first battle of Grozny occurred at a low point of Russian capability. With chaotic political and military leadership, little to no planning, and coordination between units, let alone services, next to non-existent. It is hard to imagine the US armed forces of 2003+ making such mistakes.
As it was, the USA had both a first and second battle for Fallujah. The first making it clear that more resources were required to pacify by force (after negotiated settlements failed), and the second being successful after extensive preparation.
>>33057732
>low point of Russian capability
Mostly it was because of a severe underestimation of the forces needed to win.
This partly explain was the second Chechnya war was such a bloodbath.
Also IIRC the russians were still trying to negotiate with Chechens for some obscure reason, while the went balls deep the second time.
>>33056726
Not as bad as a stalingrad, varsaw, budapest or berlin. So?