How do we modernize our equipment? Why not give everyone a suppressor?

How can you complain about weight and want to add a suppressor in the same breath?

There is no more modernization until mechsuits.

>we need to modernize
>lets ad molle
>fuck yeah ppl in the field can carry more weight
>kek we'll never have to with cushy desk job
>quick lets make a company and get rich
>done

>>33002110
That isn't very much extra weight, and the benefits are massive. It wouldn't even be very expensive, it isn't a complex part.

Give everybody XM25

>>33002103
Because spending money on air superiority and munitions is a far more effective force multiplier and use of resources than giving grunts expensive and unnecessary QoL upgrades.

Whats with the guy in tan, this is a shop right?

>>33002155
You mean XM8

XM25's with XM8's as sidearms

>>33002149
One Marine unit is suppressing their weapons for better communication and less tinnitus.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/11/23/silent-battalion-marine-unit-suppress-all-weapons/

Militaries, all of them, are usually so conservative they ignore simple, obvious and inexpensive improvements. If you can hear, you can communicate better. Lower firearm background noise is good even with INTERMITTENT louder weapons because you can speak between noise spikes.

>>33002103
>Why is everything still so heavy and primitive?
Because it needs to be grunt proof.

>>33002300
>Because it needs to be grunt proof.

Because it needs to be real-world robust. I don't blame grunts for doing the necessary. Their gear is in fact quite "modern", it's just not kept up with science fiction.

>>33002194
>What is UK?

>>33002103
>why not give everyone a suppressor
For any number of reasons; they quickly overheat during firefights, they're expensive, sometimes you want the enemy to know they're being shot at-it's called suppressive fire-, when used without subsonic ammunition it's debatable how beneficial they really are, not to mention it reduces a weapons effective range. Seriously there's any number of reasons they're not mentioned in mass.

>>33002338
That ain't a Bong, mate. That's an Iraqi.

>>33002103

Because infantry pretty much doesnt matter.they could still run around with garands and it wouldnt chage much.

>>33002346
My bad, thought it was britbong desert DPM

>>33002149

That weight adds up though...you didn't really think this through.

>>33002343
>sometimes you want the enemy to know they're being shot at, it's called suppressive fire
Hey achmed these bullets make less sound from hose Americans, I guess we aren't really getting shot at
>it reduces a weapons effective range
Are you going off video games? A suppressor only decreases, or even sometimes increases muzzle velocity by a insignificant amount

>>33002343
>not to mention it reduces a weapons effective range
>a longer barrel reduces a weapon's effective range
Go back to Battlefield.

>>33002103
Equipment is already pretty modern. It's not economically feasible to equip everyone with gucci shit. Suppressors wear out and are expensive, considered unnecessary when you've got a squad or platoon opening up with rifles in addition to mg's and explosives.

How about military shouldn't be so gear focused and instead be more tactics/strat/and training focused?

>>33002343
The sonic crack and impacts should be enough for visual and sound effect. However suppressive fire isn't suppressive unless it can actually threaten the opponent; completely inaccurate fire just makes the enemy bolder when they realize you aren't hitting anywhere close. If you hit an enemy that sticks his head out in the relative """"quiet""" then that will cause actual suppression in the long run.

>>33002401
Reread his point about subsonic ammo again.

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>>33002272
Xm29 with compact xm8s instead of whatever model sub gun it used

>>33002346

What's the difference?


Geddit because the UK has very lax immigration policy

>>33002435
Easier to manufacture massive amounts of gear than massive amounts of well trained recruits to carry said gear

>>33002103
>Define modern
>Barrel length
>It's not.

>>33002103
Why don't the soldiers get hot in all that gear?

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>>33002103
Suppressors aren't a good idea because suppressive fire needs to be loud and scary to work properly.

Ballistic improvements from a suppressor are really minor and could be achieved with a 4 inch longer barrel.

Communication would be easier with a squad equipped with suppressors, however soldiers make do using non-audio communication like hand signals or lip reading.

War would sound like tinnitus regardless. Hand grenades, and other explosives are even louder than gunshots and would cause plenty of EEEEEEEEEE

>We've already had this thread.

>>33002573
Then why are the marines switching to them?

>>33002401
LOL noguns detected

>>33002612
Who knows, they're the same outfit that feel a heavy-barrel AR is more suitable for the suppressive fire role than an M249, so their reasons could be literally anything.