War of the Northern Aggression thread Why couldn't they

Too much freedom brah
They was a real confederacy and not willed by an iron hand like union whitewashers

>>32997018
>like union whitewashers
Oh, the irony.

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>ywn shoot routing confederate conscripts in the back with a Henry lever action

>>32994821
>durr hurr let me tell you how much I hate black people
preemptively saging a shit thread

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>>32994821
>Why couldn't they stop those savage unionists?

soon they will STALKER!

>>32994821
We were never going to win, that's why. We hadn't industrialized yet and the North had twice the population. We had better generals and officers which is why we lasted so long but I'm afraid it was inevitable.

>>32994821
>Be Sherman
>Destroy South

Sounds alright to me.

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>>32997046
>>32997083
wew

>>32997071
Point of order: You were never going to industrialize because all manual labor was done cheaply, slowly, badly, by niggers. The roads were shitholes for the same reason. No infrastructure, very few railroads, no industry to speak of. For the same reason Saudi Arabia has none.

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yankeeshits need not apply

>>32994821
The North had the bulk of America's industry at the time. The South had to import practically everything related to the war effort including firearms, lead for shot, and gunpowder. The only thing the South had in abundance was food, at least until the fields were burned by the North, of course.

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>>32994821
>war of Northern Aggression
>literally responsible for first shot
Calm down and take your insulin, Cletus. You're going to induce another heart attack if you overexcite yourself jacking off over slavery again.

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>>32997083
When the South rises again, the North will be ready.

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>>32994821
The Confederate Dream lives on. The Confederate Dream, a desperate and heroic attempt to preserve from federal tyrants the liberty bequeathed to us by Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Benjamin Franklin. Stubborn sinews of the Confederate Dream lives on, deep in our genes, a dream recorded silently and permanently by the metal in this soil.

>>32994821
Logistics.

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>>32997304
>preserve liberty from federal tyrants
>own people
Ain't that some mental gymnastics.

>>32997331
>people

>>32997121
Saudi Arabia has no industry or infrastructure because of nigger slaves?

Phil I know you're a fucking retard but please keep your retardation in cuckfornia

>>32997049
>post best scifi ever
>nobody chimes in saying they'd join in going back in time to kill yanks.

dissapointing

>>32997188
>The only thing the South had in abundance was food

Not really, the South's entire agricultural sector was dominated by export commodities and a combination of greed on the part of planters and economic necessity for pay for the war led to the continued planting of cotton on a large scale. Then there is the issue of the incredibly small Confederate rail network and poor road infrastructure creating massive bottlenecks and highly inefficient food supply to Confederate forces.

>>32997267
>>32997219
Sherman didn't even burn Atlanta, it was already burning when Union forces entered it.

>>32997121
The South had more miles of railroads per capita than the North. It was a crapshoot of different gauges, but more miles none the less.

Also, partial industrialization was completed fairly rapidly under the circumstance of war.

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>>32997342
>judging your fellow Americans by the color of their skin and not the content of their character
You Southerners sure do have a good grasp of "liberty."

>>32997219
>pilot boats through territorial waters
>despite repeated warnings
>hurr durr first shot

>>32997404
>US boats
>in US waters
Fail to see the problem here, Jimbo.

>>32997348
Saudi Arabia has a single industry worth mentioning and it's maintained entirely by foreign skilled workers. SA is actually a pretty decent point of comparison to the South.

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>>32997400
>southerner

>liberty means letting subhuman apes roam free to rape and pillage your nation

>>32997267
The North that was fought against does not exist anymore. The New England Anglo culture has largely been diluted into non-existence through waves of Southern and Eastern European immigration, and now immigration from the rest of the world.

Except for a few enclaves, the people that the Confederacy fought against do not exist as a cohesive group anymore.

>>32997419
>Charleston Harbor

>>32997348
Phillipino/SEA/Indian slaves and people with suspect qualifications from white countries.

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>>32997419
>literally declaring themselves not part of the US
>durr US boats
Who burnt down great grandpappy's plantation?

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>>32994821
Too busy cousin fucking

>>32997358
Andries Rhoodie

F

>>32997463
clarification?

>>32997425
>>32997458
>niggers
>skilled

Pick one

>>32997464
>Cancer poster
>Incest fantasies
>Buys overpriced Chinese made, American marked pockkystabby

Are you off your meds again Billy?

>>32994821
Because bombing the shit out of a fort before preparing for an all out war wasn't a bright idea.

Also General Lee could've of easily ended the war by not charging up a fucking hill.

My great great granddad was a Confederate captain. I maintain some sympathy, such as states right to decisions of their own. He seemed to be a firm believer in God, as so am I. But that's where our similarity in views end.

I'm my own man, and he was his.

>>32997527
The brown people are the slaves in KSA. The skilled folks are the same as they were in the CSA, the guys running the Sloss works or treadegar.

>>32997473
The siege on Fort Sumter kicked off with the Fort being fired upon by CSA ships. Only assblasted cousin fuckers will imply otherwise, but hearing somebody somebody claim the ships were American is especially fucking laughable considering they were explicitly headed by an armed insurrection against the United States.

>>32997419 is triggered probably because William "Georgia's Burnin' " Sherman burnt down his family plantation all those years ago

>>32994821
Anyone here worried about another American Civil War?

>>32997391
A meaningless advantage when compared to the deficiency in total miles of track, freight cars, locomotives, rail production, locomotive production, and telegraph stations, rail access, and a complete lack of authority of the railways. Not to mention the steady decline in rail capacity through disrepair, destruction, and capture.

>>32997457
>>32997463
>>32997564
I think all of you got turned around, I was poking fun at >>32997404 , not defending Dixie.

>>32997564
My original post >>32997404 was referencing the actions of the Northern ships which moved to resupply the fort by passing into Charleston harbor. This post >>32997419 was implying that the resupply ships had the right to enter the claimed territorial waters of the Confederate Government because secession don't real or something.

>>32997578
Mite be kewl. If it happens, shit will go bad real quick, think Crossed levels of fucked up.

No hole will be unfucked when it's over.

>>32997578
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned. We are moving toward polarization, but that has happened many times through history without a destructive war.

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>>32997626
Nah man, it was just irony...

I will admit, the southerns gave us yanks quite a licking in the early parts of the war. You guys had to top tier generals as well, took us a while before we got some good ones.

>>32997776
If only Stonewall Jackson hadn't ran off to get his dick sucked in the middle of the night and got his ass shot off by a fucking Cletus tier inbreed the south would have had a better chance of breaking through to Washington city.

>>32997641
Except the fort itself was US territory and as such had right of access under the freedom of navigation maritime custom. Unless you're implying that South Carolina had the right to annex foreign property at will.

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>>32997426
I hope this (You) will motivate you to keep posting, no matter what others say, Anon. You made me laugh and I hope you keep posting and making others laugh too.

>>32997875
>implying the Federal government is not a creation of the states.

Also, Ft. Sumter was unoccupied at the time of secession. It was only occupied by the garrison of Ft. Moultrie afterwards

>>32997776
>>32997815
The "South had better generals" is a falsehood. Both sides had their fair share of good and bad generals.

>>32997953
It was still under construction at the time of succession, not unoccupied. Also if the Federal government is a creation of the states then a state that intentionally severs itself from the Federal government loses any claim to participation or benefits of the Federal government.

>>32998113
>a state that intentionally severs itself from the Federal government loses any claim to participation or benefits of the Federal government.
And likewise for the federal government

>>32998113
>succession
https://www.google.at/search?q=succession&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=GtWjWO6HDsL38AfBvbeQDw

>>32998176
That'd be the case if the USA was trying to claim SC property, the land Fort Sumter occupied had been given over the the federal government a half century prior. In this case SC was seeking to claim land that was no longer theirs.

>>32998188
South Carolina seceded to form a successor state, the CSA.

>>32998040
Benjamin Butler, and McClellan took the cakes for being fucking biggest asshole, and most Frank drebbin generals of the civil war respectively

>>32998654
McClellan was a poor field commander and general-in-chief, but was an excellent administrator and staff officer.

>>32998894
He was a nerd in need of bullying.

>>32998939
and to think, if he had been slightly more aggressive at Antietam, he'd be known as the general that routed the confederate army and decisively beat the CSA

>>32998269
Here's your problem:

Ft Sumter basically was in a position to blockade/besiege Charleston by itself. That is not a sustainable position. The South offered all kinds of deals, and the garrison was actually a few days away from surrendering from lack of supply (and had negotiated independently with the South to that end) when Lincoln forced the issue by running resupply ships right at the fort and daring the South to open fire.

Lincoln slow-walked all attempts at a negotiated settlement, and when he (or rather, subordinates) did negotiate, it was in bad faith, because he intended from the start to use any means, fair or foul, including war, to preserve the Union.

Of course, the rest of the country wasn't quite so determined towards bloodshed. So, he forced the South into a corner from which they faced increasing pressure to fire the first shot, thus giving Lincoln the moral high ground both in the North and internationally.

Could the South have outmaneuvered him? If the Charlestoners had had a lick of common sense, maybe... but maybe not. The only real way out would have been to physically block or board the resupply ship and attempt to stop her without firing the first shot--and that's iffy.

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>>32994821

Ran out of men and bullets.

Still gave it a better shot than virtually everyone else. No other army has come as close to bringing the United States to its knees as the Confederate States, an outnumbered, outgunned, and starving army of farmers facing off one of the largest armies ever assembled up to that point.

>>32997042

>Battle of Chickamunga
>entire Union brigade armed with level action rifles
>Still got their asses handed to them by Confederate troops wielding 20 year old Springfield M1842 muskets

>>32997358

Turtledove definitely should have gone with writing sequels to that rather than Timeline-191 (a rehash of Third Reich, and not a very original one at that).

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>>32997267

>North
>Cities are full of limp-wristed faggots who need mental health care for microaggressions
>Rural folk hate the city slickers and would side with their Southern brethren in overwhelming numbers
>Majority of American nuclear weapons maintenance and manufacturing plants are in Southern states
>Majority of nuclear weapons are located in states that would sympathetic to the South due to cultural similarities
>Very high likelyhood that any missile crew ordered to launch against an American city would turn their weapons on Washington DC instead

How is it you retarded Yankee fucks remain this delusional?

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>>32997578

I'm looking forward to it.

If my war crimes indictment at the Hague doesn't charge me with personally torturing and killing at least a four digit number of Yankees, I will be greatly disappointed.

>>32999105
Lever-action rimfires. The early lever-actions had piss poor effective range and were not always the best weapon.

I would go with a Sharps if I had a choice. Faster and easier to reload than a muzzle-loader, but still has the range and power of a proper rifle cartridge.

>>32999081
South Carolina had already been blocking attempts to resupply the fort by force since January of 1861. Lincoln didn't actually do any negotiation until March of 1861, the garrison hadn't negotiated independently - they simply refused calls for surrender, the only bad faith negotiation was from Seward - who wanted to give SC the fort, and the fort itself was in a poor state to actually besiege or blockade Charleston from the start. It only had 60 guns that were primarily positioned to fire out to sea, 85 men to man the fort, was unable to fire explosive shells, and construction was unfinished. Meanwhile the Confederates had 43 guns aimed directly at the fort and 6000 men. Not to mention the entire argument that Fort Sumter belonged to SC because they seceded is made moot by the fact that SC tried to buy Fort Sumter from the USA at first.

>>32999105
>implying Chickamauga wasn't entirely the result of acting on faulty intelligence on the part of Rosecrans
>implying that Bragg's assault wasn't a giant clusterfuck
>implying the Confederates didn't lose a proportionally equal amount of men
>implying the Confederates were able to push the Union any back further than the Rossville Gap
>implying the 21st Ohio didn't repel every single attack until it ran out ammo
>implying that Bragg didn't consistently fail to capitalize on openings and advantages
>implying that Bragg didn't fail to pursue the Union army until it had already taken up defensive positions
>implying that Bragg didn't immediately start fighting with his subordinates due to his massive ego
>implying that Bragg's subordinates didn't later attempt to mutiny against him

>>32999380
>>32999081
Yall are also forgetting when the Union commander spiked his guns and burned fort Moultrie before then occupying Fort Sumter when at the time every single other federal base was in a process of peaceful turn over. Then when SC asked Bucahanon what the hell was going on, he attempted to reinforce the fort with more men and supplies to escalate the situation.

The North Escalated the situation multiple times and forced the Southern hand where the South repeatedly sought peaceful solutions.

>>32994821

Outnumbered, outgunned, outsupplied. Combine this with a few boneheaded moves like picketts charge and...well....

Now we have niggers everywhere.

>>32999184
You know what? Fine. Feel free to nuke boston, NYC, etc. We don't want them either.

The yanks you need to worry about are the ones in rural New England and upstate NY.

Maine kicked your ass once and we'll do it again.

>>32997881
Sadly that isn't a counterargument to his post. But I suppose you realized that and chose an attempt at humor to cover your concession.

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>>32997391
>The South had more miles of railroads per capita than the North.

>Have Election. Run 2 different democratic candidates on the ticket splitting the vote and handing some guy named Lincoln who wasn't even on the ballot in some states the presidency. Have fucking conniption fit.

The best part is when southern fags go on about how to the south voted to leave but leave out the part where anybody who would have voted against it in the state legislation were already arrested and imprisoned.

>>33002043
>Implying that implying black people are not humans is an argument worth refuting in any way

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>live in the south
>people still this assblasted about the Civil War
>same people are now on FB ranting about how "libruls lost and should get over it"

Even if the CSA won, then what? They'd be a third world shithole by the 1900s.

>>33002352
Fuck off yankee

>In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny

>>33002481

And look what it got ya'll. Sherman should have kept going.

>>33002500
And sacramento is soon going to be every bit as underwater as New Orleans.

Tell me, do you think that it's because you're all just really shit builders, or does God just actually hate liberals?

>>33002554

I'm not in Cali, buddy. But nice try.

>implying god is real.

>>33002220
>per capita
I mean, there were like 5 people living in the south so I guess it makes sense

>>32994821
>Anaconda Plan

>>33002352
The reason the South is so pensive about the war is that there is a perceived attempt to destroy the Southern Cultural identity through popular media and the like.

>>33002266
Don't forget what happened to the governments of the border states.

>>32994821
Don't start a war when you know you are already fucked traitor.

It's really the south's fault for being such pricks at Fort Sumter and starting it all.

>>33002266
Yeah about that.

>Many more Union troops arrived. On May 13, Butler sent Union troops into Baltimore and declared martial law. He was replaced as commander of the Department of Annapolis by George Cadwalader, another Brigadier General in the United States Volunteers.
>Lincoln subsequently had the mayor, police chief, entire Board of Police, and the city council of Baltimore imprisoned without charges, as well as one sitting U.S. Congressman from Baltimore.[31]
>The Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, who was also a native of Maryland, ruled on June 4, 1861 in ex parte Merryman that Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus was unconstitutional, but Lincoln ignored the ruling, and later when Baltimore newspaper editor Frank Key Howard, Francis Scott Key's grandson, criticized this in an editorial he too was imprisoned without trial

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>>33004038
>letting the enemy surround your capital because muh idealistic purity

This one of the many, many reasons you guys lost the war.

>>33004097
Except this all happened in '61.

>On September 17, 1861, the day the legislature reconvened to discuss these later events and Lincoln's possibly unconstitutional actions, twenty-seven state legislators (one-third of the Maryland General Assembly) were arrested and jailed by federal troops, using Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus, and in further defiance of the U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice's ex parte Merryman ruling.[40][30]
>Because of this large-scale arrest of state representatives the legislative session was canceled, and no further debate on anti-war measures or secession could take place.

Don't go to war if you don't have a chance of winning.

They didn't get the memo

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>Army Officers are all Kansans.
>1863.
>Charleston SC.
>for three days the city has burned.
>all fire arms are confiscated, all slave owners/officers are hung.
>letters arrive.
>Lincoln.
>"plz stop."
>Grant.
>Still drinking to drown out the screams from Richmond.
>Sherman
>still too soft on traitors.
THE SOUTH SHALL BURN AGAIN.

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>>33002293

>>33004391

Such a badass picture in the topeka capital building.

Seen that shit when i was a kid. Epic as fuck, and huge.

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>>33001933
>New England
>NY
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32997360
>Sherman didn't even burn Atlanta
good, then stop whining about it

>>33004391
>>33004632
John Brown was one of the most heroic and prescient private citizens in American history

>>32994821
Square toes? Seriously, how period INCORRECT could you get.

Man, 150 years and these hicks are still absolutely buttblasted about losing the war. I mean, I'm mexican and not even us are half this much butthurt over losing half of our territory to the Yankees.

>>33004890

Shut the fuck up beaner everything you touch is ruined and that includes Mexico.

>>33004710
>implying anyone in NY would admit to owning guns when surveyed.
Tragic boating accident.

>>33004908
I could fry an egg on those red hot, redneck asscheeks, I swear.

>>33004944

Gee what a surprise a Mexican and a cocaine cooking reference

>>33004975
What the fuck? It was a regular cooking reference, you spastic baboon.

>>32997525

SHERMAN DID NOTHING WRONG!!!

Why do Southers think "muh Northerners" like me don't want states to have rights at all?
Oh yeah they're fucking retarded.

"northern aggression"

Go back to fucking your sister billy bob, you lost.

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>>33005215

>>32999225
>Yankees
>Implying it won't be right vs left, with no particular states acting as belligerents.

>>33005215
Because the South decided it didn't like the playground rules so they took their ball and went home. The North then followed them home, beat the fuck out of them and dragged them back to the playground while crying "it was for their own good".

>>32997046
Fuck off Yank. The war was never solely about slavery.

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>>33004710
>Yankees confirmed for nofunz cucks.

>people getting butthurt
I don't get it. This is just a fun thread for bantz but people are getting pretty mad.

>>33005271
Yeah, according to faggot hick revisionists like you.

>>33005342
>implying history isn't written by the victors.
The only revisionists are Yankee faggots like yourself.

>>32994821
WE WUZ REBELS N SHIET

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Did he really do anything wrong?

>>33005362
Shut up, you're just stalling. Just Admit you assholes are butthurt

>>33005388
>Wallace.
Ewww...

>>33005362
>revisionists
THE WAR WASNT ABOUT SLAVERY AT ALL GUISE

>>33005508
Your right, it wasn't until January 1st, 1863

>>33005519
>your

>>32994821
Because the Elitist Northerners (Democrats) were being funded by one of the most powerful and arguably most wealthiest nations on earth (Great Britain). Meanwhile the Southerners (Republicans) were funded by the factory workers and businessmen of the South. You can't beat the Rothschild's Bank of England, m8.

>>33005519
>>33005528
yor

>>32994821
"You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail".
-William Tecumseh Sherman.

>>33002874
>perceived

>>33005566
Quadra dubs speaks the truth.

>>33005532
What factories did the south have?
At this point in time the north was extremely industrialized and catching up to europe in factory outputs.

The south was mainly agricultural, with most money coming from cotton, tobacco, and other cash crops.

>>33005640
Don't know how the name got there. Must have mistyped some shit. Fuckin phone

If we had a second Civil War (which is exactly what would have happened if we had gotten Hillary as President) we would have been more divided by politics than geography, and we'd have asymmetric war (with most of the military fighting against the brass) instead of open war.

>>33005655
Fuck phoneposters, burn in hell. I bet you're a Yankee.

>>33005640
Is this a serious question?

The South had plantations, textile factories, shipyards, manufacturing plants etc.

Sure, maybe they weren't as advanced, but the Nation is still fed and clothed from the South's farms and their Sea Ports.

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>>33005686
If we're going by how north I live then I'm the biggest goddamn yankee there is.

>>33005690
I thought it was clothed by East Asians who earn 80 dollars a month on sweatshops.

>>33005690
>but the Nation is still fed and clothed from the South's farms and their Sea Ports.
And yet the North had better supply levels.

>>33005617
Do I get a prize?

>>32997400
That last panel should say:
>to disarm poor rednecks
The left doesn't think poor whites are people.

>>33004710
>Virginia
>29.3%
I want to know if that number is over or underinflated by the amount of out of state CCW holders who got theirs in VA but are from somewhere else.

It seems like there's a lot more firearms here.

>>33005733
Yeah, a dragon dildo (used).

>>33005729
That tends to happen when you're backed by the largest Bank on the planet with a vested interest in the War. The North knew they were going to War for a long time.

The U.S. Civil War was just like N.Korea vs. S.Korea. Foreign powers squeezing the life out of one half of the Nation in order to bring them to their knees to the other. Unification never took place. The last election was a pretty clear sign of that.

>>33005756
A-fucking-men from Appalachia brother.
You get it.

>>33005215
because the south prefers parochial tribal 'states rights' over human rights

>>33005244
>Because the South decided it didn't like the playground rules so they took their slaves and tried to take the playground. The North then, beat the fuck out of them and put them back in line while the southerners cried "it was never about slavery"

ftfy

>>32994821
Talk shit get hit.

Stop being such a bunch of babies.

>>33005690
Fuck off Billy Bob, I don't wear cotton like your plebian ass.

>>32997578
4 of Clubs idenifies /k/ in that situation.

>>33005670
>If we had a second Civil War (which is exactly what would have happened if we had gotten Hillary as President

Do you faggots really still believe this?

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>all the butthurt hicks ITT
>mfw white and I live in Alabama
I honestly hate the meth abusing "Prawd Rednick" idiots as much as I hate the cocaine abusing prison simians.

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>>32997304
>Preserve liberty from federal tyrants
>I want to own a person and their offspring like livestock

Very high and mighty of you

The individuals right to own slaves shall not be infringed

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>>33005756
And the South didn't think blacks were people. We sorted that out though.

>new state doesn't want to be a slave state
>angry southerners REE
>no you have to be a slave state!
>literally start shooting people over it

Muh state's rights

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>>33006270
>mfw getting called a yankee by this kid who looked like Ross Perot and talked like Yosemite Same when I was down south

>>33001933
>muh heritage
Lmao, the north is a shadow of the tyrannical mercenary machine it once was

Good job destroying what America was founded to be, yanks.

>>32994821
>hard to fight against the northern armies when you need to garrison against slave rebellions
>hard to fight against northern aggression when you can't get your cock out of your brother's ass
>hard to fight a war when you have no industrial base and all your wealth is the people that you own as pets.

>>33005762
Northern Virginia probably heavily affects that statistic.

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>>33006406
Dixies couldn't understand the Kansans didn't want their people competing with Southern aristocrats and their slave plantations beating the small farmer out of his livelihood. Texans disobeyed Mexicos laws against slavery because they were greedy and love making wealth off the backs of their slaves. Not that it's bad we annexed them, just the slavery competing with freemen part

Dixie reliance on slavery is the real culprit of the war. If the South hadn't clung to tyranny just to make riches then all the blacks could've been sent back. Then there's weaker cause for infringement on the southern states, no major minority bothering the nation, but no the South just had to have it's slaves and make everything worse. That's what you get for not allowing free (white) labor to reign

>>32997400
Pity the artist of this comic is a red.

>>33002481
why do you have pride in having fallen out of your mother's rather capacious vagina in a state that attempted treason in order to keep people as pets and got its ass kicked in a war that it started to support that treason?

>>32997400

pretty much every nigger ive met has been a real nigger acting chimp. i do judge by the content of their character and they are all chimps

>>33006670
I'm from the North and whoever wrote that should be kicked in the balls.

>>33006601
>let's write a document saying all men are given unalienable rights!
>lol not you nigger!
>North
>Industrial innovation/scientific progress
>capitalism, equil rights.
>South
>Feudal agriculture/aristocratic caste system.
>slavery, slave owners exempt from war.
Yea OK.

>>33006310
>we were SJW thought police before it was cool

>>33006723
Die Copperhead.

>>33006725

Yeah and after the war we exported those negroes to you dumb yanks and proved our point in Detroit.

>>33006275
That was a badass game.

>>33006601
Lol, the North won this country from the brits while the plantation owners wanted to remain as cucks to the english.

>>33006249
>liberal retards rioting and attacking people over literally nothing.
>100+ million armed Americans doing nothing as their rights are forcefully taken.
CTR plz go.

So many fucking yankee faggots on this board.

>>33006195
That will get you shot.

Wait, are people in this thread really arguing this? I thought the 'northern aggression' thing was a meme? Do people actually believe that starting a war in order to keep slaves isn't a bad thing? I thought this was a joke

>>33006837

>he actually thinks CTR is still posting

Shouldn't you be job hunting, Flynn?

>>32994821
>Why couldn't they stop those savage unionists?

Because Ohio's favorite son, William Tecumseh Sherman saved the country.

>yanks actually believe the war was fought over human rights
You guys are top tier delusional. Life isn't a feel good disney movie.

It was fought over votes. Do you really think they gave a shit about blacks outside of votes?

You guys are fucking idiots.

Anyone have that one picture of the union soldiers with slaves around them doing shit for them?

>>33006195
>>33006852
what does this mean?

>>33006900
Nice troll bait.

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>>33006837
>>100+ million armed Americans doing nothing as their rights are forcefully taken.

Because that got ya'll so far last time

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Ehh, just glad there's a lot more dead yankees stiff in southern dust.

>>33007022
>Implying America had anywhere CLOSE to 100 million people during the Civil War
>Implying it didn't take extensive training in order to get American's to pull the trigger against the British
>Implying several hundred million guns private owned inside the United States aren't all concentrated in the Midwest and Southern U.S.
>Implying a modern Civil conflict would look anything like the last one

>>33007060

>implying the south and the midwest have any money to fight a "war"

>>33004097
The fuck is this image?

Good job defending the banks and globalism, yanks. You pieces of shit doomed the world and now you sit here defending the destruction of the world.

I was born and raised in California but thankfully live in Louisiana now.

Lincoln was a tyrant, no doubt about that. But the argument is that what he did doesn't matter because it "saved" the country. If there is no country in the end, it doesn't matter what laws you followed.

Also it was not about slavery. Lincoln didn't give a fuck about niggers. He would've kept them in chains if it meant he south could come back.

In the end I'm glad we are together. But they should have negotiated more before secession. I don't know if they even did. It would have kept us as "These United States" instead of "The United States"

>>33007123
What do you think could have been negotiated? Slavery was obviously in decline and was morally indefensible, but would the south have agreed to a stepped down approach? Was there room to negotiate on the issue or would any erosion of slavery have been seen as a slippery slope?

It wasn't about slavery.

REPEAT AFTER ME

THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT FOUGHT OVER THE RIGHTS OF NEGROS

>>33007157
I want to know what other grievances the south had to begin with. Secession seems so drastic. Lincoln would have let them keep slaves. It would've worked it's way out after a few decades.

>>33006731
Being against slavery makes you a SJW now?

>>33007279

It wasn't solely about slavery but you're in denial if you're saying it had nothing to do with it.

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A bunch of autists whose family tree is more of a family telephone pole channel their inner Josey Wales 150 years after their ancestors failed miserably at trying to establish a country that never would have made it past 1900

>>33007123
Anon is actually right. Lincoln didn't care about slaves - he wanted to preserve the Union. He issued the Emancipation Proclamation to, in so many words, tell the other world powers that if they support the Rebel States that they were supporting slavery.

And let's not forget: The South did horrible things during the war, but so did the North. We aren't innocent either. We were better, but far from perfect.
>pic related
>mah glawk 40
>dis mah problem solvah rih hee

>>33007000
>4 of clubs
>club = clover
>4clover
>4chan

>>33007499
ah. cool.

>>32997049
dope book. would love a netflix movie about it

>>32997158
Eat shit rebel scum. Oh wait, you already did...

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Rebel dogs should have been genocided desu.

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>>32994821

>>33006721
And I've met plenty who aren't. Welcome to the real world.

>>33005519
Which is why all the individual Confederate state constitutions explicitly protecting slavery as a right are a pure coincidence?

What states' rights were they trying to protect again? :^)

>>33005566
Cool shit but is this a legit quote? I couldn't find a source for it.

>>33005712
Oh look the alaskan that has to relate everything to him living in alaska and how awesome he is for it.

>>32997578
The way things are looking right now, it will be some kind of leftist hellhole like California or Jew York that secedes first.

And a huge portion of federal military enlistees come from the South. On top of that the South overwhelmingly supports Trump and his form of impolite right-wing politics.

So this time it will basically be the South reconquering uppity rebels instead of the other way around.

>>32997437
This. And as much as people meme that 'Yanks" are leftists the Union was far-right wing from a modern perspective and generally embodies a lot of what you might call "conservative values" today outside of the South.

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>>33006837
>>100+ million armed Americans doing nothing as their rights are forcefully taken.

You mean exactly what has been happening for the last 50 years?

>>33006270
Same. Thank god Huntsville is basically a Yankee colony. I don't like venturing further south though. It blows my mind that people can be fine with how run-down everything looks. And why on earth are there no sidewalks anywhere?

>>32997400
>a few good uncle toms are worth millions of niggers
We should of sent you all back to africa

>>33011089
Oh look the lower 48er who's passive aggressive about us talking about our home but secretly is mad that he can't live up here

>>32997331
Niggers are not people

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>>33005532
>Elitist Northerners (Democrats)

If you read a god damn history book you would see that the Confederacy were purely a majority leadership of Democratic party and it's interests. The second competing party one most defined as a globalist supporter for international trade (Cotton) and a fixed wage to the working class (Slaves) while giving financial support to the successful upper class (Homesteads and Plantations).

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>>32994821

>>33006007
Niggers are not human

>>33006275
Niggers are livestock. The yankees turn them loose and look what happened. Great idea.

>>33006699
Again, niggers are not people.

>>32997188
Uh, the South had plenty of raw resources for gunpowder fàm.

>>33011361
Delta's ready when you are. GTFO yankee asshole.

>>33012172
Who wants to live in that frozen shithole. Ever wonder why the population is so low?

>>33007058
>Lost 400.000 white dudes
>"Gain" millions of black citizens

>>33004890
>I mean, I'm mexican and not even us are half this much butthurt over losing half of our territory to the Yankees.
La Raza and the Mexican Government would like a word with you

>>33006725
>North
>Equal Rights
>1800s
Pick two faggot.

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>>33005532
>Elitist Northerners (Democrats)
>Southerners (Republicans)

You are utterly 300% Retard. Day/k/are is out in full force in confederate threads.

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>>33007058

Confederate war records are incomplete and ceased counting. Lee even issued an order to only count seriously wounded.

But enjoy killing a guy from Connecticut so your daughter can sleep with Jamal.

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>>33007114

The South defended the banks and globalism you fuckwad. Stop going full Democrap and blaming your opponents for everything you did.

Your government was literally chocked full of Jesuit bankers, Jews, and British agents.

Southerners are so obese, the only way they could win a war today is by rolling over the Northerners

>>33015700

It's swallowing all the nig jizz that makes them fat.

>>33005271

From the first two paragraphs of Mississippi's declaration of secession:

>In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

>Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.