Sell me on a particular brand of AR15. I just want to buy

just buy a colt and fuck off

>>32981915
m&p 15 sport

>>32981915
Daniel Defense.

>>32981943
Which model?

>>32981940
sport 1 or 2?

>>32981933
which colt?

>>32982005
either the sport I or sport II will be a good rifle
i bought a sport I years ago for my first ar and had zero problems with it

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>>32981915
FN-15, it just looks right

>>32982005
>Which model?
DDM4V7 LW is my preference but any of them with the LW barrel will be good.

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How about build one yourself.

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You want an AR? Get a ruger AR556.

It's literally that simple.

7075 forged upper and lower check!
Cold hammer forged barrel check!
Properly staked gas key check!

It has all the things that actually matter in a AR, none of the useless pretend operator shit that dipshits pay 3 times more for.

Chrome lined barrel....? you will literally never shoot enough rounds to wear out a non chromed cold hammer forged barrel. You are throwing away accuracy for nothing with chrome lining.

Ruger has a top notch warranty and customer service. If ANYTHING is wrong with the rifle they will fix it and send you a goodie bag of mags and t shirts.

All this for $550

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>>32982005
Not that anon but I dig the fuck out of my V1LW
>>32982088
Agreed, V7's seem to be very popular.

>>32982185
>Cold hammer forged barrel check!
No.

>>32982146
For DD they are all good, just remember you’re paying for quality of materials, quality control, and R&D. The only real special "feature" of DD rifles are the handguards, other than that they are just high quality mil-spec rifles.

>>32982536
You're forgetting the excellent CHF barrels.

>>32982185
The only Ruger I own is a 10/22. Everything else they make is meh

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>>32982536
Yes, good goy. Pay twice as much for the rifle that is 1% better.

>>32982916
Ruger shill pls go.

>>32982996
excellent goy!

Reject all high value options. Keep buying ultra premium. It will pay off in the the long run, just trust me.

ARs are like gaming computers
Buying it already built makes you a faggot
They go together like Legos now go fucking get some parts

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>>32982916
>>32983058
You sound poor as fuck

>>32981915
OP, if you are new or never owned an AR, then get a Colt LE6920, they are the basic standard.

If you got the tools or know someone who has the necessary tools to assemble an AR, then that is a better route.
I bought my first AR to learn how it works before I built my second one.
Anderson uses the same forgings that Colt does for their lower receivers. Get yourself a good quality lower parts kit, start putting things together and within an hour you got yourself a fully functioning lower receiver.
Palmetto State Armory sells .223/5.56 receivers that have barrels made by FN, those are good, get one of those or just the barrel and build the upper yourself.
The three most important parts of the AR is the barrel, bolt carrier group, and lower parts kit - that's it - everything else is just personal preference.

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>>32981915
Buy pic related or any other reciever that pleases your taste and then build your own.

It's easy as fuck and only requires a vice/vice blocks, wrench and some punches (I'd say only punch that is required to be a rollpin punch is for the bolt catch release, the trigger guard pin let's you get away with basic punches) most of these tools are useful for other firearm related things as well.

>>32983202
>Colt LE6920
No, get a 6720.

Government profile barrels are stupid.

assuming you dont want to build...
$500-600 - get a Ruger 556 or M&P Sport II.
$800-1000 - get a colt 6920
$1100-1500 get a BCM
$1500-2000 get a Daniel Defense.
anything more aint worth the price.

if youre poor and are open to building then get a PSA kit for $400-600. pretty good quality for what youre getting. otherwise just comes down budget. at the very least make sure the barrel and bolt carrier group are good quality, you can generally get by with everything else being adequate.

>>32982185
>properly staked gas key
I work in a shop that sells 100s, not a single one has been properly staked

also
>exposed firing pin
>twist off delta ring

Ruger AR556 is a piece of shit
get an M&P

>>32983232
Personally not a fan of pencil barrels, that's why I go with the Government or heavy barrel.

But to each is own.

>>32981915
colt 6920. get the real deal.

>>32983325
So an FN?

>>32983312
>source: none

Really activates my almonds

>>32983316
If you're not, that's fine, but then I don't understand why you'd go with Government profile. It is literally a useless profile intended to a fix a problem that didn't exist.

>>32983353
The government profile is made to prevent warping with extended firing in an actual firefight unlike the pencil barrel. Also it has the cutout to mount the grenade launcher.

The 6920 is the "flagship" model and if OP went in to their local Cabellas or Bass Pro and asked for the least expensive Colt, the clerk would hand OP the Colt expanse which is a total piece of shit. With that said as long as OP does something better than the expanse, its all good in the hood.

>>32983353
Not that anon but I like having a thicker barrel. There is maybe no practical difference for my monthly visit to the range but I still like it. I also like the fact that 6920 is near identical to what the military fields, but that's just a matter of taste for me of course

>>32981915

build your own.

I built m first AR. You're able to set your budget, get the specific parts you want, and can shop around for good deals on quality parts.

much better than buying a gun and swapping out parts later. You tend to spend more that way in the long run

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>>32981940
Idk. I had one and it couldn't even survive a tiny little truck fire.

>Pic related

>>32983387
Expanse is many things but being colt made is not one of them. It's utter dogshit
Required viewing
https://youtu.be/xUnGhScNX24

>>32983410
The expanse has the Colt name and its sold by Colt, regardless who made that abomination it still can be called a Colt and be mistakenly bought by someone who doesn't know better.

You and I both know its shit and Cold should feel bad they are selling it.

>>32982185
thinking about this as well, since it's one of the few models I can get in my country for less than 1500 bucks.

is it really as bad as>>32982524
>>32982721
>>32983312
say?

>>32983387
>The government profile is made to prevent warping with extended firing in an actual firefight unlike the pencil barrel.
No, that's wrong. They designed it because the military armors thought it was warping, but in fact the gas port was seeing build up.
>Also it has the cutout to mount the grenade launcher.
Which exists because the M203 was designed to attach to the barrel at the point where it was ~.61" diameter.
>>32983389
But the M4/Government profile barrel is not thicker anywhere that it matters, hence my question. If you like heavier barrel profiles, why are you choosing M4/Government?

>>32983605
I didn't say it was bad, although I certainly wouldn't recommend it. I said it doesn't have a CHF barrel, which it doesn't. The military rifles don't have CHF barrels, either.

>>32983626
Read my post kind sir, I just want it to be made by colt and be as close as possible to m4s being fielded

>>32983671
You said that was one of the reasons, but it wasn't the only one or the first thing you mentioned. If you want an M4 clone as a civilian for some reason, yea, get the 6920. If you don't care if it's a clone, get the 6720.

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>>32983642
Their website states that it is a CHF barrel.

http://ruger.com/products/ar556/models.html

.......DPMS. They're sooo good. Dude, just research and build one. That's the best way to get what you want. Don't ask /k/. It's like the cancer equivalent to reason.

>>32983794
>CHF
>4140
Who the fuck is making these?

>>32983316
So, can you tell me what the difference is in a SOCOM barrel compared to any other kind? The fact that it's fatter towards the rear of the barrel and them skinnier up front kind of confuses me.

I'd go with Eagle Arms: they're made on the same production line as Armalite, and all internals are the same as Armalite. They have .223 Wylde chambering, so you get .223 match grade accuracy, but no problem with 5.56 NATO pressure. For around $600, It is a great buy.

Personally I never used to see the point in the over-tricked-out ARs some people use. I was always just fine with my old Colt M-16. It did the job. I had a few little improvements on it, but not so many that you couldn't still easily recognize it for what it was.

I'd have just said get a Colt, maybe something like a 6920.

Not too long ago though I got the chance to borrow an LWRC for an extended period. Holy shit. Had it not been for that experience, I'd NEVER have recommended something so "exotic" and tricked out as that. But DAMN, that thing shoots nice. Especially with a Geissele trigger. They really are worth the money. You DO get tangible benefits for the cash you're dropping.

If you really want to treat yourself, and if you can afford it, get an LWRC, maybe an M6A2. If you don't want to get that tricked out or spend that much, just get the Colt 6920.

You won't go wrong with either, it's just a matter of your budget.

There are other makes and models out there which are OK, but I've noticed over the past 30 years that the quality behind the various names making commercial AR variants often changes a lot over time. It's annoying to keep track of who was making a so-so AR you had to tinker with a bit last year, but makes a good one this year, or who is declaring bankruptcy and might not be around for warranties.

Colt has had it's up and downs as a company, but the ARs it builds are it's bread and butter and they've been pretty consistently solid. They now build a few stripped down models to compete with cheaper brands, and I'd avoid those overly bare models if it were me. But they've always been a fairly safe choice in an AR. Consistently so.

LWRC isn't as old and well established as Colt, but many agree they SHOULD have won the contract to replace the M4, before it was rigged for political reasons, then eventually abandoned altogether. I think they ARE better than the Colt, but the Colt is still the standard by which all others are judged.

>>32984044
SOCOM sounds like marketing for a mid weight barrel (between a lightweight and heavy barrel), but a thicker profile towards the chamber end of the barrel is usually beneficial for barrel harmonics and, thus, accuracy.
>>32984260
Don't make a decision based on something like .223 Wylde, which is an absurd set of dimensions that solve no real problem. Well maybe it solves a problem for benchrest shooters or something similarly extreme.
>>32984452
Do not buy piston ARs.

>>32984452
So what are those 'tangible benefits' besides the aftermarket trigger? I wish you guys actually outlined verifiable and quantifiable differences instead circle jerking certain brands

>>32985177
Thanks man, I just never understood why it was called that and it just baffled the hell out of me.

Get a windham mpc best entry ar compare to S&W and ruger.

Plus nicer black finish.

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What length free float handguard should I use on a 16inch midlength gas barrel? 12inch handguard?

>>32981915
get a honey badger.

>>32985711
I use a well dried squirrel carcass

>>32985850

He's asking for a handguard not a fleshlight.

>>32981915
Just bought my first AR. No desire to put one together, and after spending a year researching it online, ended up buying a 6920. Felt like it was the right "bang for the buck", no pun intended.

>>32981915
Bravo company manufacturing

>>32986081
Same here. I wanted to get one before the election and got myself 6920. Very satisfied so far

>>32982185

Can confirm.

I have the Ruger AR. Runs great. Not a single issue, I've probably thrown 1k rounds through it.

>>32983210
If you buy a completely assembled upper you don't need a vice at all and even a punch can be done with out if you AfroEngineer® a screwdriver.

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>>32983210
>only requires a vice/vice blocks
>mfw I used my knees for most of my build and I'm worried it'll fall apart after every shot

>>32983332

In the Army an FN M16A4 was my Raifu.

I picked up a $150 PSA lower (which, to be fair, came with one of the takedown pin detents fucked up and was a bit of a pain to fix), and a very lightly used BCM upper with handguards/BCG/CH/ + 10 Pmags/Lancers and a boresnake for $600. Been nothing but happy. I think it's definitely best to buy good quality, but I think blowing $1500 on a DD or something for your first AR is a bit much.

>>32987149
DDs will probably start going back on sale for 1300 soon.

BCM RECCE-14

PSA 16" moe upper with BCG and charge handle $299
aero precision complete lower receiver $205

>>32988227
http://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psa-16-midlength-slim-stainless-steel-5-56-nato-1-7-freedom-upper-with-bcg-and-ch.html

Got a nice looking one for a bit less in the daily deals today. Probably gonna buy one myself.

>>32989708
nice
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-nitride-1-7-moe-blk-freedom-upper-with-bcg-ch-508045.html
http://aeroprecisionusa.com/ar15-complete-lower-receiver-standard.html

>>32982077
this

buy this OP

>>32983332

Colt has superior components, its copyrighted or something it has a name for this but I forgot.


and if you want the real deal, dont buy a AR since the marines and soon army are finally moving away from the POS.

>>32989943

Technical data package.

>>32989943
No, they aren't.

>>32989943
You sound like an AK fanboy. What makes the AR a pos?

>>32983876
ruger owns some of the few chf barrel machines in america. they can cold hammer forge whatever the fuck they want.

>>32981915
KAC SR15 e3 mod 2
Or
Daniel Defense M4A1
Or
Hodge Defense

Unless you want to build a specialty rifle just buy one new. Because at the end of the day you have a rifle that other people could possibly want and not a frankengun that no one will buy.

That being said, I recommend an LWRC M6IC, or one of the IC variants. That gun offers the most features that many other ARs do not.
1) a solid piston system that the gun is built around and addresses carrier tilt
2) monolithic handguard
3) complete 100% ambidextrous controls
And the gun is just solid and smooth. It's my all time favorite AR hands down. I got the M6IC 14.7" when they first came out and have loved every minute of it
2

>>32987786
this, solid rifle all around, a step above the rest of the guns within the same price point

>>32992034
Who makes the barrels for Hodge Defense? What is the profile?
>>32992120
>1) a solid piston system that the gun is built around and addresses carrier tilt
Impossible because it still doesn't have rails for the bolt carrier to ride on. Don't buy piston ARs.

>>32992273
>Who makes the barrels for Hodge Defense? What is the profile

Not sure who makes them but it's their own barrel profile.

>>32992286
Is it like KAC's or like DD's S2W?

>>32992286
>Machine gun steel
I'd bet FN, since they're the only other place I've seen that marketing used.

>>32981943
Overpriced and overrated.

>>32983316
Heavy and pencil are okay.
GP has a narrowed middle that serves as a stress concentrator, both thermal and physical.
Preferring gov't profile is misinformed or stupid.

>>32993293
Can someone explain the different Daniel Defense barrel profiles for me? I get M4 and lightweight, but what about their government and S2W profiles?

>>32982005
sport 2 is a good quality intro ar. if looking for cheap, build a palmetto, its fun and you may learn something too.

>>32981915
I kind of regret getting the m&p sport 2 and not saving up a little more and getting the FN AR with the pencil barrel. The one on the m&p is heavy as absolute dicks.