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Thinking of getting a current production 9mm chambered Tok for a first pistol and maybe a carry gun. Anyone have experience with these? Yays or nays? Thoughts?
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>this thread again.jpg
It's under $300, just buy it and shut the fuck up
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>>32946321
Good gun. Just wish I had gotten the 9mm version instead of the 7.62x25. It was one of my first handguns as well.
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Tokarevs in general aren't that great. You can get a used Beretta 92S for $250 now.
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>>32946436
Sorry I had thought that /k/ knew about guns and i might wanna post there you kike.
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>>32946321
I have heard mixed reviews. I personally dislike their rifles. Serbian shit's over hyped. For not much more money you can get a SAR arms or canik.
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>>32946455
Is there a lot of aftermarket and parts surplus? That's what was making me question the Tok.
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>>32946321
If it's the same dimensions as my Romy, it's pretty thin and a pleasure to shoot. I'd imagine that in 9 it's even less recoil.
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>>32946455
I'd go for the Beretta over the Tok but Toks are still good guns. To say they're "not that great" shows you obviously haven't owned or shot one.
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>>32946468
You should question it for being Serbian. Don't be surprised if shit has burs and starts falling apart.
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>>32946321
>trusting your life to a piece of shit $300 gun

dude, if youre going to carry a gun, atleast carry something worth a shit. a full size 9mm single stack? fucking seriously? if your life is only worth $300 dont carry a gun please.
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>>32946480
The serb ones have a longer grip to fit a 9 round magazine and a slide safety. That's all that is different if that is what u are asking.
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>>32946321
There are 2 reasons to buy a Tokarev:
>you want a 7.62x25 pistol
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>it's all you can afford
Buying one in 9mm invalidates the first reason, and the Zastava is worse in every regard compared to other fairly high quality 9mm's for the same or less money.

Want a cheapo 9mm that doesn't suck total ass? Buy a SAR B6P for $250.
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>>32946500
Not everyone has a lot of money to spend friend. I would rather have a firearm than be unarmed. Also from what i have read this gun has no issues cycling and the only common review complaints are accuracy that is bellow modern standards (duh, it's not a glock) and a rather heavy trigger pull while its being broke in. Not one malfunction and they say it groups fine within 15 yards which is plenty ok to me in a self defense scenario
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This: >>32946531
Faggots like this guy: >>32946500 give gun owners a bad name and should kill themselves.
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>>32946529
Will look into. Thank you
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>>32946468
There is basically no aftermarket.

The surplus parts for the most part don't fit the 9mm version, only the 7.62 version.
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>>32946547
I meant for the Beretta friend.
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>>32946321
By the way OP. I posted in this thread earlier saying it's a good gun (which it is). With that said, you might be better off getting a S&W SD9 for concealed carry. It's lighter and has a 15 (might be 16) round magazine. Plus it's a 300 dollar glock copy.
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>>32946544
Not him but you're not all there.
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>>32946321
Get a Glock 19 like a normal person.
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>>32946555
Oh whoops.

In that case, pretty good.
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>>32946563
>disliking gun snobs means I'm "not all there".
>not understanding that "kill yourself" is a commonly used internet term and not to be taken literally.
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I actually own one and love it. It was super cheap and I've run some of the shittiest ammo through it and have never had a single jam. The only drawback is that magazines for this are expensive. You can't go wrong with this at all. Don't listen to the spergs saying "OH MUH 7.62X25." The 9mm is just fine and if you're getting it for a good price go for it. You won't regret it, I love mine. My only advice is to get the M70A over the M70. If it's an M70 though and the price is right it isn't even really a big deal.
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>>32946579
No I understand. You're just a dipshit and wanted to say that.
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>>32946589
Same to you faggot.
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>>32946599
Lol gotta have the last word just like the retard you are.
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>>32946531
theres litterally no excuse not to buy a glock, save your ruples for one more paycheck and buy a police trade in.

>fine op, daddy will fucking find you a better gun
>as much as i dislike you faggots i dont want you to die.

glock 22 $330
https://www.smga.com/p-124567-used-glock-22-gen-3-police-trade-in-with-two-mags-various-conditions.aspx

>here keep looking
https://www.slickguns.com/search/apachesolr_search/glock?page=4

>cant find anything?
>buy 80% kit
>build a glock

seriously we are in a time when being poor is not an excuse for not having a good modern handgun.
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>>32946612
>meanwhile anon is trying to get the last word while criticizing other people for having the last word.
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>>32946565
Can i have $600 dollars please?
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>>32946634
You should know I'm just trying to ruffle your feathers but you're too much of a gigantic faggot.
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>>32946613
I don't want a (lol u mad because a tok is a memegun)
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>>32946544
see>>32946613

carrying something like that is unsafe and will get you killed. not only is it a POS jam machine, its wildly inaccurate. there is no excuse to not buy something better. so stop acting like im the bad guy because im telling you weeb faggots what you dont want to hear.

>dont worry, daddy will help you too
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>>32946652
the tok is cool, dont get me wrong, but a 9mm version for carry? are you smoking some bad shit m8?
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>>329466 i dont want a memegun*
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>>32946653
>not adding tauruses to the shit tier list

kys
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>>32946653
I don't know if it's not accurate...Not him btw.
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>>32946672
Imq just having a bad time correcting and quoting posts so im going to take a break while u guys fight it out.
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>>32946685
Bullshit faggot.
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>>32946674
yes, i made the list.

its not a literal thing you should completely trust, its a guide for dumbass poorfags who cant search, research, or do anything with out someone holding their hand.

>trusting people on the internet
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>>32946710
for your average nogunz it's pretty a pretty helpful chart
but still tauruses are only a thing so that people can point and laugh at how shitty and meme worthy their products are
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>>32946739
if i have to tell you not to buy taurutrap, then youre doomed to die anyways.
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>>32946710

The tok has no reliability issues and many guns on that list do
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You can have my M70A for $200. The mags like to fall out when firing and it FTFs a lot.
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>>32946773
Do you think it's Serbian quality?
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>>32946793
I think it's a $250 gun made ancient tooling. If I really wanted to, I'd just fix it. But I want money for a new gun and I don't care about the M70A. Yes, it is aesthetic as fuck, the bluing is sharp and deep and she shines up real purdy, and I'm sure the good ones are a blast, but it's a gun you buy because you like it and it's cheap enough to not miss the money you spent on it. You don't carry it. You use it as a sidearm when shooting some slav meme rifle at 2-gun.

Sure would have liked it to work properly. I was excited when they launched. Everything else available for $250 looks like a turd.
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>>32946702
I try not to shitpost while driving anon.
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>>32946837
*made on ancient tooling
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>>32946773
Eeee, did u remove,the mag safety?
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>>32946755
True. I'd rather have a milspec handgun for 200 dollars as opposed to a plastic brick (hi-point) for 200 dollars.
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>>32946793
Fuck no.

Zastava's military weapons are excellent, but they clearly cut corners with their civilian-tailored stuff.
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>>32946837
I look at it like this...Just save up and make your minimum 400 bucks. Other than a 10/22 at 200 bucks, I have been problem free with my guns by not buying too cheap.
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>>32946321
Does that safety even function?
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>>32946321
its fine, and its only 250 dollars so you wont be out much
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>>32946849
I'll shit post how I want nigger.
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>>32946879
From everything ive heard its a excelent safety. Even has a hammer block so it wont drop fire. The import Toks to the use suck since its a hastily attached trigger block to appease american law. But this one was a purpose built device.
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>>32946904
That's fine my angry bretheren but i personally think safety is more important.
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>>32946921
I agree. I forgot wtf we were arguing about. I'm bored and just being a faggot.
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buying a 9mm tok is like buying a .357 deagle, whats the point of buying a memegun if you aren't going to get it chambered in its memecaliber?
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>>32946933
I think you told me to buy a glock so i said i didn't want a memegun to make you mad knowing full well a Tok is a meme.
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>>32946455
>used Beretta 92S for $250

They're shit
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>>32946939
I just want cheaper ammo and plentiful choices in hp. If they sell out of the m70a surpless before I'm able to purchase i will just get a honest to god Tok.
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Op should just buy a dildo. Start sucking it if he gets attacked. Everyone will be too scared to mess with him.
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>>32946640
Save up you damn nigger.
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>>32946960

if you have 300 bucks for a handgun just buy a glock, seriously. if you absolutely need a special snowflake pistol get a firestar, they're in the 300 range.
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>>32946971
Do you have any suggestions for tactical assault dildos? Maybe a bullcuck design?
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>>32946979
>OP should be unarmed until he can afford a better handgun.
That's pants on head retarded. He should get something cheap now and save up later for something better. Cheap guns exist for a reason.
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>>32947009
This, right now i carry a short barreled mossburg 500 in the truck but thats a little hard to stuff in a pocket.
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>>32947009

>implying he is going to be attacked in the time it takes him to save up for a big-boy gun
>implying anyone in this thread has ever had to use their CC gun
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>>32947001
Actually being serious here...Not the sucking. Lol.

>Be me, be a kid with my dad.
>Leave rei store.
>Crazy guy outside yelling at cars.
>No one messes with him because he has a utility belt with dildos 360 degrees and wearing tutu
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>>32947041
He's better off being prepared in case something happens as opposed to having something happen and having absolutely no means to defend himself. Even if the gun is a jam-o-matic (which is highly debatable) most self defense situations usually end within a few shots.
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>>32947041
I bet you are just some liberal who wants me to never buy a gun until i can't so I'll become a statistic. SHALL NOT INFRINGE.


seriously though, why is having a cheap gun until i can buy higher quality so offensive to you?
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>>32947052
Uwot?
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>>32947074
Because he's most likely a richfag who looks down on anyone who doesn't carry a 900 dollar handgun.
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>>32946653
this needs a serious fucking update.
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>>32947085
True story.
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>>32947009
Especially since with most cheap guns you can then turn around and sell them for 80-95% of what you paid for them, and potentially more if you buy it used.
>buy police trade-in Block for $300
>use it until you can afford what you really want
>sell your police trade-in Block for $300 in a matter of hours or list it for $320 and sell it in a couple weeks

>>32947041
If a $200 difference is enough to require significant agonization over for a gun, odds are extremely good it will take him several months or more to save up that $200. Not everybody gets paid thousands of dollars a paycheck, lots of people have to save up $5-10 at a time.

>>32947052
A doctor got killed in the parking lot of our local VA hospital by some teenager looning about in his boxers dancing with a rubber chicken.

He was beaten to death with the rubber chicken, which had been filled full of sand and weighed like 12 pounds.
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>>32947069
>>32947074

i think you guys are just paranoid and use your paranoia to justify irresponsible purchases.
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How is M88A?
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>>32947103
Not to mention, most of the cheap milsurp guns just go up in value. Toks won't be 200 dollars forever. I still have a nagant that I paid 100 dollars for about 5 years ago and now they're going for about 300 dollars because all of the YouTube fags had to give away the secret about great 100 dollar rifles to normalfags.
>>32947107
Might be normal for him to be "paranoid" if he lives in an area of town where he can only afford a 250 dollar gun.
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>>32947103
Fucked way to go.
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>>32947107
get gassed, libtard. eat shit and die.
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>>32947107
Fuck I missed this comment. You libtard cock Wrangler. Don't you have some mom's demand action meeting to go to?
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>>32947136
That's what I thought. I laughed my ass off when I read that then felt bad for laughing.
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>>32947161
>>32947142

>telling someone to wait a month so he can afford a quality handgun makes me a liberal

don't you get ever worry that you've been conditioned to respond to opposing viewpoints with 4chan approved rhetoric?
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>>32947179
>implying it would take him a month.
How do you know how much he makes anon? How do you know what he pays in bills?
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>>32947179
No, me calling you a liberal makes you a lib, you dirty liberal
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>>32946859
Nope.
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>>32947179
You just gave yourself a reason not to buy a gun...You can't fool me anymore. Go back to the giffords camp.
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>>32947219
How odd. I wonder if u have a bad mag. I've only read of a few issues like that out of 20-30 different reviewers.most had modified the pistol.
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>>32946870
For me, the entire deal was
>ooh, shiny blued tokarev in a non-meme caliber! And I don't have to save up at all!
I literally do not need it.
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>>32947244
Do you have a pistol to rely on without it?
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>>32946879
It's a standard slide-mount safety as featured on many handguns. It's better than the old import hackjobs since it was designed properly from the outset. It's really rough though and that partucular safety design was always primitive.
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>>32947244
That's fine. Spend your money on what you deem worthwhile. Im just currently not in a rich situations and all these screaming libs on tv are making me nervous. I don't wanna get dragged out of my car and nigged to death because im white.
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>>32947254
XD9, 5903, and a Shield from the performance center. I bought the M70A as a toy alone.
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>>32947286
Good. I thought we were gonna have to put you down. Nice man.
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>>32947240
Both crap themselves out, I'm convinced it's the mag catch. I have half a mind to just order one but the other half wants the $250-300 I know I can get for it at a fun show to put towards either an M10X or a 1911. I'm selling my WASR too.
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>>32947351
I would put it towards something else since you already have things to fall back on. Although i think a youtuber repaired his and u might have a go at it by hand.
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>>32947009
Only poor people think like this.

This isn't some mad max nightmare, he will survive long enough to get a proper gun.
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>>32947445
I'm sorry my lack of name brand cereal in the cupboard offends so much.
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>>32947074
LITERALLY only poor people do this.

BUY ONCE, CRY ONCE, YOU POOR FAGGOT.
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>>32947455
Why are you so mad that he is poor?
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>>32947494
It's ok anon, he might be well off but money doesn't buy happiness
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>>32947451

>im poor so I'm allowed to be fiscally irresponsible
>only rich people can afford things that cost more than 300 dollars
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>>32947539
Nigger, if i have extra money it goes into my car so i can work. Or i spend it on some nicer food. Will you just take that glock and fuck yourself with it please??? PLEASE!!?!??
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>>32947555

Kek, how does knowing someone who doesn't waste his money employs retards like you?
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>>32947445
t. gun snob who thinks he's a fortune teller.
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>>32947570
Not the person you're responding to but you really are a massive faggot. Why do you care about what handgun he buys? Is it just so you can have a smug sense of self satisfaction because you have more cash than him?
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>>32947604

I couldn't care less, but it's entertaining to laugh at these retards waste money.
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>>32947613
ITT: the kid that starved pet rats and watched them eat eachother shits on others.
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>>32947613
That's your opinion. Even if you don't like it as a defensive piece (which is disputable) it's still good for someone who just likes to collect old guns and will go up in value once the market on these things dries up. So it's probably a better investment then your old Glock which is only going to lose it's value as new generations of the pistol come to market. For someone who talks about money management, you don't seem to understand how markets/supply and demand work.
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>>32947636

Why would I do that when I have always had the money for the best entertainment? I'm shitposting with my two 1080's sli'd right now.
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>>32947645

I keep my funds in safe investments and some venture capitalism, not guns which will actually decrease in value as more imports flow in.
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>>32947531
>money doesn't buy happiness
I'm poor and even I know that this is just a false platitude poor people tell eachother.
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>>32947649
You had me feeling kind of shitty till this anon. Lol
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>>32947659
>thinking imports will be around forever.
Geez I wonder what happened to all of the nagants.... hmm....
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>>32947669
So being rich will fix your personal outlook on life and fix every failure you'll ever have?
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PSA to all of the out of touch richfags browsing this thread who don't want OP to defend himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZYUr9dCzM
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>>32947676
no, but it makes those crosses significantly easier to bear
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>>32947684
True, but it doesn't make them go away. Money might pave the road to hapiness but it isn't the car.
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>>32947676
I'm rich and can usually pay to make my problems go away.

That being said, OP should save up a little more and get a used gun that is cheap to maintain.

A Glock police trade in would be perfect for him.
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>>32947539
Were you simply not paying attention when it was explained to you that he can simply resell that gun at 95-100% cost when he's ready? Cheap pistols don't depreciate.
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>>32946436
FPBP
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>>32946653
>carrying something like that is unsafe and will get you killed. not only is it a POS jam machine, its wildly inaccurate.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>32947694
Well thank god I have feet then
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>>32946499
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>>32946321

If you want a 9mm Tokarev, buy a Norinco one. Good quality and it will shoot every goddamn time. Also uses standard Tokarev magazines instead of special snowflake mags.
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Are there any actual decent handguns that you can get for sub $300 other than combloc shit? Saw the anon who posted the glock 22 for $330. Is trade in and surplus the only way to find nonshit handgays on the cheapo
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>>32949334
Your options are hipoint and milsurp. Everything else is basically trash.
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>>32949334
EAA Witness Pavona
EAA Witness used
Sarsilmaz SAR B6P
FNS on sale or used
FEG hi power
FN hi power mk2/mk3 police trade-in
CZ75b/bd police trade-in

There's actually a bunch of good 9mm pistols coming out of eastern Europe, and most of the Turkish pistols are surprisingly good for the money. And of course you have all the police and military trade-ins coming out of the middle east and the US.
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>>32946321
i had one that was taken in a burglary a couple years back. it was a nice gun but mine always shot low. safetys are nice and theyre sturdy. accurate enough to target practice with and cheap. 5/7 practically perfect.
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>>32946613
> save your ruples for one more paycheck
> we are in a time when being poor is not an excuse

You assume he gets Paychecks and has a regular expected source of income.

Also for some fagtastic reason you assume that just because he gets a Paycheck that he actually has any money Left Over after all the bills are paid.

We live in a time where internet access does not demand a $1000+ desktop computer that sits at home on a dedicated phone line connection.

We also live in a country (united states) where its perfectly possible for someone to take home $1500 per month and at the end of the month $1460 has gone out the door on things they could not skimp on at all.

> how many months does it take to save up for a gun when you only get 40 left over every month

THIS IS GUN CONTROL in the united states
So many people on /k are noguns because they cant fucking afford to buy a gun. And last I checked its hard to just ring it up on the credit card.
> so if we get one at all, its a cheap $200 pump, a HiPoint, or something foreign like a TOK
Also Glock 19, 20, or 21.
Never the model 22.
WTF is wrong with you.

hey that rhymes
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>>32949334
Smith and Wesson glock knock off for $279.
Internally it's the same thing as a glock except it won't break the bank:
http://eccguns.com/product.smith-wesson-model-sd9ve-double-action-only-full-size-9-mm-4-barrel-polymer-frame-duo-tone-finish-fixed-s-ights-16rd-2-magazines-223900-2987
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