/meg/

Attending MEPS tomorrow, any advice from those who've gone through it before?

>>32931505
eat a small breakfast and go to bed early.
What branch?

>>32931531
Army, 35N

>>32931505
make sure you eat

don't overestimate how much you need to drink.

I didn't eat breakfast but downed a metric fuckton of water the first time I went, had to pee like a madcunt when I got there, asked to use the head and they said "you're gonna have to go soon so just hold it", turned out soon meant in 2.5 hours, ended up having to pee so badly that I passed out and had to go back another day

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Is there something like the crossing the line ceremony in the army for enlisted?
Same question for army cadets.
In general does the officer core have a worse or easy time of it?

Not in favor or against, just curious.

>>32931505
Don't work out or fap.
It can mess up the piss test.

>>32931505
Don't eat eggs for breakfast, or drink OJ.

And your favorite answer is no.

>>32931730
But you shouldn't lie about major shit or obvious things that can come back to bite you for falsified enlistment in the future (although I feel like that's one of those empty threat type things to get you to admit things, how can they prove that you intentionally lied to get in?)

>>32931772
Of course. Guy I met at MEPS lied and said he didn't have any serious health issues, such as heart problems. We end up in OSUT together, dude drops dead of a heart attack during PT.

>>32931772
What about for contracting through ROTC? I have something on my medical record from when I was 16 that would almost certainly DQ me, but no evidence of it otherwise. Could/would it be found during the process?

>>32931813
They don't find it through a review of your health records, they find it because you get fucked up during training and when they're examining you it becomes clear you lied. For instance, someone says they've never broken a bone when they have and then that bone breaks during training and the X-ray shows past damage proving they lied.

can your chain of command view your SF86? when I joined a few years ago, I was pressured by my recruiter to not be entirely truthful about past drug use and now that I'm filling out the SF86 I feel like I need to be honest about it. Barring that, can I put it incorrectly on my SF86 and then tell my investigator along with my reasoning for not including it?

>>32931943
Unless there's legal documentation disproving it, stick to your original story. You don't do anyone any favors by suddenly remembering spring break now.

>>32931963
yeah it was a one time thing in high school, no record of it having happened. thanks then, I'll just hope everything works out well

>>32931975
No one's out to poke holes in your story and they're not going to find your friends and rake them over the coals about if you ever roasted a bowl. They don't care. Even during actual top secret security shit, they're only out for serious security problems like foreign influence and catastrophic credit problems.

If a couple joints are the biggest problem on your record, you're golden, because genuinely no one cares unless you bring it up on your own.

gl bruv

>>32932010
Yeah it's for a TS. The people I listed as references aren't in the same social circles as the folks who would be aware so I'm not sure the investigators would even ever talk to them.

Thanks.

So I'm looking to enlist at the end of high school and I just wanted to know how much they look into your medical history. I saw a therapist for what was really just teenage agnst for about 2 years (2013-2015) and I've been taking an antidepressant/ADD pill since then. I haven't spoken to any recruiters yet. Am I screwed?

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Posts the fuckin Australian link
Doesn't even put /k/anaduhs in even though we're literally beside your country..
>Nice neighborino you are.

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Who /Navy/ here?

How are foreign recruits treated in the US military?

>Spend entire childhood wanting to join the army
>have some shit where i need to take epilepsy medication
>cant fulfill childhood dream
Fuck man

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>>32931715
Breh I tried to drop my resignation packet yesterday and my battalion commander lost his shit. And I think I might be getting stop loss'd.

Dont go officer, I shouldve listened to pic related anon years ago. Now I am an 11A never been deployed, never seen exotic places, basically with nothing to show for it.

Now I am at a cul-de-sac working for a dude who now hates my guts and wont let me resign.

What can you guys tell me about 15w?

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>tfw Fort Drum PT in 5 degree weather
>dont even get a good workout in just silly PRT streches and gimmicky exercises, still need to go to the gym on my own time
>finish and go stand around in the motorpool and do literally nothing all day
>stay at work late because at 1645 1 SGT remembers something "very important" that needs to be done before we can go home
Nobody told me about this part of the Army

Im not even bitching about working, but I feel like I'm wasting my life here, before this I was a janitor and I felt like my work had more meaning

im a 13B

>>32932291
Boot af

>>32932940
How is USNA life or USAFA in comparison?

>>32932253
You are not going to get in with 2 years of therapy with a mental health specialist. The pills won't help, either.

Speak to your doctor and get off the medication, at the very least. If it's private you might have some luck by simply not mentioning it on a form but if it comes up at any point down the line you could end up suffering for it.

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>>32933641
>You are not going to get in with 2 years of therapy with a mental health specialist.
Not him, but I saw a therapist also for about a year or so. My parents just got devoured, my grandmother had a stroke, and I was just in a car accident.

The insurance covered it so I said why not, it was nice to have someone to talk to about everything. I was never diagnosed with depression.

Will they hold it against me?

>>32933749
>My parents just got devoured

Well that's the sort of thing you should see a therapist for, really. I doubt they'd hold that against you.

In all seriousness I don't know, I'm not a doctor or a recruiter. I just can't see them taking any risks on people who have spoken to therapists.

Don't do it!
You have your whole life ahead of you.

>>32933536
>Nobody told me about this part of the Army

Except that is 100 % what everyone says about being in a line unit. The problem is that dumbass 18 year olds hear "Don't do it dude, it's boring, unfulfilling, and it sucks" and hear "You're not enough of a badass to handle it, pussy!"

Fuckin' teenage egos turn every piece of advice into a challenge for their masculinity. It sucks because it's monotonous and pointless, not because it's difficult and intense.

>>32934382
plus he is combat arms. what war are we fighting?

If you choose a job where you need to be in combat to fulfill your designated role, and we are not currently in a hot war, its not hard to imagine youd be pretty bored.

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Still wishing that I had gone merchant marine.

>>32934461
I have a bitch of a waiver that no branch currently wants to give.
If I can't enlist then I'm going to the Merchant Marine Academy

>>32934461
I really want to get it but have to wait for the hiring freeze to end. Working on certs now.

>>32934488
What are you doing for your certs

>>32933749

What did the therapist say?

As my recruiter explained to me in excruciating detail, USAREC bases their decisions on what you have, not on what you have had. If the shrink never diagnoses you with depression or PTSD, there's no basis for holding you up.

Be aware that telling your recruiter "yes, I saw a therapist" might lead to several months of review unless you can get an ironclad, comprehensive letter from that same doctor explaining the context and asserting that you are completely mentally sound.

If you KNOW you're mentally sound and are fine never, ever mentioning seeing a therapist for the duration of your service, don't even bring it up.

Recruiters are generally fine giving you enough rope to hang yourself, and getting a depression diagnosis overturned can be a bitch. If you want to be completely forthcoming, I recommend talking to the shrink ASAP and asking for a bill of clean health.

>>32934557
>As my recruiter explained to me in excruciating detail, USAREC bases their decisions on what you have, not on what you have had. If the shrink never diagnoses you with depression or PTSD, there's no basis for holding you up.

No diagnosis. We just talked a lot. I was sad but it was because of circumstance, not mental problems.
I'm completely fine now.

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>>32934624
In that case, there's no reason to bring it up. A lot of guys in your circumstance have a PTSD diagnosis to hide or something so they get antsy and say more than they should, but if there's no diagnosis, there's really nothing to say about it.

I know lying to Uncle Sam sucks and I know you don't want this stuff to bite you in the ass later, but without a diagnosis, referrals or medication, you'd just be putting obstacles in your way.

>>32934502
By "working on" on meant getting my very basic prerequisites in order first, haha. Namely, a passport that isn't expired. From there, a TWIC and then Merchant Mariner Credential from the Coast Guard.

>In college
>At a party
>Some kid who is going ROTC is there
>Strike up conversation with a guy I know in pre-med and this kid is part of it
>Talking about the makeup of the cell because we're nerds
>I say something about the rough endoplasmic reticulum being lined with ribosomes
>He jumps in with "the endoplasmic reticulum doesn't have ribosomes on it, I know because I'm a biology student"
>Pre-med bro and I just look at each other because we both know he's fucking wrong

Are most officers so militant about their own ignorance?

>>32934738

Your MM credential comes from three years of doing unlicensed work as a deckhand or going through the Academy iirc.

>>32934775
>Are most officers so militant about their own ignorance?
100% yes. Most officers have watched top gun 1000 times and think thats going to be them.

If I ship a little out of shape, but healthy, will the Air Force recycle me?

Or should I spend a few months preparing?

>>32931706
>pee so badly that I passed out
madcunt

>>32935095
How out of shape? What MOS?

>>32935148
Security Forces. I've heard SF is the equivalent to the Air Force's Infantry. If it's as physically demanding as being an 11x, then I know the answer. I've heard it's no where near as physically demanding, which is a relief, but I also don't want to go in too out of shape.

>inb4 don't do it because security forces meme

If not Security Forces, a support or logistics role.

>>32935194
How long until you go to basic?

Consider that it's their job to get you in shape. A normally healthy young man can get to their standard of fitness by the end of it, unless there's some underlying problem.

A month spent doing pushups, pullups and running will get you to a good baseline.

>>32935194

>Air Force's Infantry

No they fucking aren't, although I'm certain that SecFo would claim that.

>physically demanding as being an 11x
>11x
>physically demanding

Meh. That's just being generally in shape, which basic is designed to help with. You're required to be somewhat in shape to be in the military and in shape for combat standards, but you are not required to be an athlete. The only ones held to the standard of athletes are SOF.

>>32932913
Can the military see a list of prescriptions you've ever been written, including before you turned 18?

>>32935209
>How long until you go to basic?

A while actually. I've just started college.
I've been wanting to go reserves while I earn my degree, then commissioning after I graduate. I just need to get all my ducks in a row, which could take a few months.

>>32935194
>Security Forces
Might as well kill yourself now. Youve been memed.

WHEN WILL TRUMP RELAX TATTOO REGS REEEEEE

>>32932835
Very well in the Air Force, but no other US service besides the Coast Guard is worth bothering with. I worked with many expats during my career.

Plenty of foreigners do well in the other services tho so if it's a choice between nothing and them, go Navy then Army or Marines. Army and Marines are terrible in peace time and most of your career is spent at peace. As a foreigner your goal should be a full 20+ year career then comfy retirement so plan accordingly.

I suggest you completely ignore "if you aren't (insert job or branch) you ain't shit" posts because they reflect jobs so unpleasant that all the participants have is pride. As a foreign careerist you need to NOT damage yourself in training which is the largest cause of career-shortening injuries.

Have a plan and you'll do fine.

>>32932913
>have some shit

The impairment apparently includes inability to SPECIFICALLY identify the condition. English motherfucker, do you speak it?

>>32935390
I dont know what it is, went too a neurologist and they dont even know

>>32935248
Im not sure

>>32933536
Find other shit to do like studying and take advantage of everything you can in a systematic careerist manner.

Meaning doesn't pay the bills, and if you knock out twenty or more and do it right the benefits are overwhelmingly and amazingly worth it because you won't have to work again unless you want to.

Contemplate volunteering for special duty assignments, crosstraining into a more technical specialty like aviation, and otherwise playing the system for every better deal you can get.

One way to fill time and be useful is learn other people's jobs. Learning how Supply works is useful throughout your career.

If your systems have civilian tech reps you might see what you can learn from them. The key to pleasing most bosses is a show of activity and initiative.

First Shirts can be a goldmine of info as can other SNCOs. If you ask questions and gradually get to know them that can help your career. You don't have to swallow, just tap their experience.

If you can become a technical ninja I find that more fun than bullshit. The best technicians usually get to work on more interesting shit when the chance comes.

>>32934775
The internet and cell phones are a dandy way to destroy idiots. When they make a wrong assertion I pull out my phone and begin searching. I don't talk any shit. I say "let's find out".

Learning how to let dumbasses bury themselve is fun in and out of the military.

>>32935249
Well shit dude, you should be getting in shape regardless of joining the military.

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>>32931462
Anyone have experience with Green to Gold program? Worth it?

What can I expect enlisting at the age of 22?
I imagine I'll be slightly older than everyone else at boot.
Will I be made a team leader or have any higher expectations or responsiblities?

>>32936146
THis meme is getting old
There are faggots of all age at boot. Literally no one will care that youre 22. No one.

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>>32931462
Tfw failed asvab today. The second time

I have a flight phys coming up. Will it be MEPS 2.0?

How important is dental health if you want to enlist in any branch? Suppose you've had a few cavities, and maybe a root canal. Disqualification? Waver?

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>>32936733
If you've ever had a cavity that's an instant DQ. Sorry bub

http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

>>32936357
>failed the ASVAB

i'm sorry i refuse to believe this is possible for a human being who is functional enough to type on a computer

The dumbest, most non functioning mentally ill minorties and societal rejects ive ever met are in the military, theres simply no way you're worse than that.

>>32933610
Probably better. I've never been to those branches, so IDK for sure.

>>32936853
Afqt was 24 first tim second was 25

>>32937417
prove it, you should have the paper

Going to talk to a Marine recruiter Saturday morning. Any specific things I should ask/look into?

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>>32937508
>Going to talk to a Marines recruiter

>>32937508
ask if they have the 60 crayon pack

>>32935248
no

>>32937508
Youre making a mistake

>>32937508
Everyone I know in the marines hates their life. Go army instead and have a better quality of life.

>>32937658

>Go army instead and have a better quality of life.

A statement that is either sad or hopeful depending on who you are.

>>32937446
The first one was a couple months ago and I did the other on a recruiter computer

>>32937672
I'm waiting on legal papwerwork to get OK'd, but yeah, i'm joining the Army. I quit my job after 3 years because it made me feel like killing myself. I'm running out of money, dont have any dreams and my only aspiration is to some day become a ranger.

Hopeful for me.

About to graduate university, how dumb would I be to grab a 11B contract? I'm not super /fit/ but I'm not a fatbody either.

>>32937693
you dont take the asvab on you recruiter computer.

>>32937713

>11B

Do something more useful than that. Fuck man if you must go into infantry as an enlisted at least try for option 4 or 40 at minimum.

>>32937756
It was a practice test that shoes what you would get if you were to take the real test and he won't let me take the actual test because of that score

>>32938286
Yeah, that score is pretty fucking low.

Do some studying before trying again.

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I forgot to put on the sf-86 that I saw a chiropractor for a couple years, and also that I took anxiety pills for 1 month when I was 14. My job requires a TS clearance, I think I might be fucked m8's. I don't want to be swabbing decks for 4 years, or get fraudulent enlistment. What should I do?

>>32938663

Repeat after me, "I don't recall." If it comes up you legitimately did not remember.

>>32933539
Yo mama

>>32936733
I seen some FUCKED UP teeth in the military. As long as it's not something activily causing immediate pain or issues, it's fine.

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>>32931462
I hear Coast Guard basic training is actually the most challenging out of all the military's branches... why is that exactly? Is this BS or true?

I also hear people talk about the Coast Guard like it is secretly an extremely hardcore and hyper competent branch, far surpassing all others in efficiency... is this true? Why is it?

>>32936146
>Will I be made a team leader or have any higher expectations or responsiblities?
>Caring about "rank" at boot

Pro-tip: "Rank" at boot is basically decided on the whims of the drills, and they will give or take as they please. All does is act as an extra excuse to get punished for when one of the recruits under your "command" fucks up. It's a pointless mindgame and you suffer through it until the drills give the rank to somebody else.

The only people who give a fuck about that stuff are hard charger JROTC faggots who think that having "rank" in boot means fuck all to their military career.

>>32939103

Because CG is constantly performing their core role of dealing with piracy, smuggling, and illegal penetration by unlawful elements and so they are basically "at war" constantly. That's why they are so keyed up.

>>32939308
interesting... so would you say people who come out of a few years in the Coast Guard are "harder" than people from most other services these days?

>>32939611

Depends. SOCOM is always doing shit, but CG has DOG which is their SOF. I'd say on average CG is "harder", but that's based on a lot of factors.

>>32939682
What factors are those?
And how do Coast Guard SOF units stack up against SOF units in other branches? Are they up to the same standard?

>>32939699

>What factors are those?

Whether they have seen combat or not, performed in the field often or not. There are good units and sloppy units.

>And how do Coast Guard SOF units stack up against SOF units in other branches?

Different roles. A lot of people like to compare Rangers with SF for instance, when in reality they typically play totally different roles and the comparison is like comparing tanks to artillery.

>Are they up to the same standard?

I don't know much about DOG, but I would imagine that MRST raids more ships than the SEALs do.

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Could I conceivably be active duty enlisted in the Coast Guard while attending school at Columbia in NY?

I started my application almost a year ago
They said my trade was full then, and now by April 1st, it'll reopen for applicants
Excited, mates

Talked to a real bro Chad recruiter today, by the way. He said I was "One of those" because I was a going from uni bachelor grad to officer.

>>32940213
No

Can I jump-seat during my leave in the Air Force? My mom and grandpa (both USAF vets) told me I could do that instead of buying my own plane tickets.

>>32940512

Why not?

>>32940712
How are you expecting to be working a standard full time job and at the same time pursue studies at university? What are you going to do when you have classes in the morning every day at the same time you have to be doing CG things? Do you have some impression that your CO is going to somehow make an exception for you to go to school all day? It's just not a practical thing

>>32940808

I assume I'm going to put in 40 hours to one and 40 hours to another, and find sleep maybe on weekends. I'm hoping to be able to brown nose hard enough to consistently get on a shift when I don't have classes.

>>32940827
I don't think the military works in the way you're imagining, but OK

what's your favorite cadence, /meg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzJnncsK18

>>32940931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg

so when are we seeing a massive /k/ exodus to the FFL as they're integrating the HK416

hi guys, i want to be a combat photographer in the muhreens, i'm not out of high school yet my asvab score was 57 what should i do to get in and get that job? i haven't talked to a recruiter yet, what workouts should i do to get in shape?

>>32941227
run, faggot

>>32941467
anything else

>>32941512
Run more

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Ok /meg/ I REALLY need your help. Continuing from this.
>>32933749

I had a conversation with my mother about this today, and she told me the shrink put down that I was suicidal and depressed to get the insurance to cover the meetings.
I WAS NEVER TOLD ANY OF THIS.
I WAS NEVER ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
What do I do now?
How do I get this off my record?
I literally sick to my stomach from this.
Iv never been so sure of anything in my life and now i'm completely fucked because of this lying fuck.

>>32941944
You didn't lie if you were genuinely not aware

>>32942007
I have not enlisted yet.
I'm getting my PT numbers up and my weight down.
I'v been training daily.

What the fuck do I do?
Can I get another doctor to say im not suicidal or something?

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>>32935194
Don't do it
You'll check id's at a gate for 12 hours

>>32942151
>tfw 42A in army reserve
>had a training exercise last week and all i did was literally check IDs at a door for 12 hours

>>32937508
Marines = brainwashed
Army = dumb
Navy = gay
Af = pussy
The last two are your best choice for useful job and skills
Plus you'll have nicer shit and treated better

>>32937698
Don't quit faggot it isn't that bad

>>32935194
>Security Forces

>Equivalent of Infantry

Shut the fuck up instead of talking about shit you know absolutely zero about.

>>32940579
No

>>32942172
Feels bad man
I see those poor bastard daily

>>32942237
could always be worse
im also new at my unit so at least i got to meet everyone
>tfw ywn be e-4 for life

>Joined the Marines
>Got a 92 on my PICAT
>Ready for MEPS
>Have to fill out BIQ before I can go
>>People who know you well (list friends, teachers or coworkers)
>All my old friends hate me
>Rest of them are too pussy to let me put their names down bc they think the Marines are going to start spying on them or some shit
>Realize I have no real friends

fuck

>>32937508
Don't listen to the faggots who responded to you with shitposts.
I just signed up and everyone here that tells you that kind of shit is fucking retarded, and I feel fucking retarded for having listened to them before I went.

as for things you should do
Bring your high school diploma, your social security card, your HS transcript, your birth certificate and make sure you're prepared to answer a shit ton of personal information bc your recruiter is going to want to get a good look at the type of person you are.

>>32942319
see if you feel the same way after you've been in for a few months

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>>32936357
I took my asvab with some foreign chick, who didn't speak English and she got a 20. You obviously understand English...how retarded can you be?

>>32936733
One guy I knew in AIT had complete meth mouth. The Army bought him all new teeth.

>>32941227
Which combat do you think you will be photographing stupid.

Army guy here anyone got questions about basic/meps that google cant answer for you, shoot.

>>32942319
> Just signed up

Lol boot

>>32940213

You know that Columbia has an online/hybrid program, right? Distance learning.

>>32942319
>I just signed up

Stop. These threads are cringey enough and the last thing it needs is children trying to give someone else advice on joining the military.

How would you know if the Marines is a good branch to choose or not? You haven't experienced anything, stop posting.

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>>32937698
>I quit my job after 3 years because it made me feel like killing myself.

I hope you picked a cushy MOS because otherwise I got bad news senpai.

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>looking at joining
>really, really good looking
>as in I have male modeled
>too autistic to do anything about it other than be aware that women are hitting on me all the time
>quite literally too autistic, OCD is on the spectrum
>have had problems everywhere I work with female coworkers who think I'm "snubbing" them because I'm too autistic to respond to their advances

Am I going to have problems in the service? I already anticipate OCD problems.

This is gunna sound really strange, but hear me out.

I honestly have a pretty big dick. how do i make using the showers not weird? im not gay or anything, but i still feel self conscience about it.

wut do?

>>32942863
>m not gay or anything, but i still feel self conscience about it.

You sound very gay and self conscience.
Trust me bro, no one is going to want to look or be around your dick (except other fags) so I wouldn't worry about it.

>>32942655
You'll mostly be around dudes, and dudes can tell when another man is autistic.

OCD is disqualifying. You'll need to either hide it really well for four years or get proof that you 'no longer have it'.

>>32943008

I was diagnosed by a doctor that is a friend of the family and it isn't on paper. I can... fake it very well. Usually.

>>32942258
>I have no real friends
I-is this a real problem?

>>32931718

"My recruiter said it so it must be true..."

>>32941944

You're screwed, depression diagnosis is a pdq.

>>32935194

All the pog jobs which may involve holding weapons in the air force say stuff like this because they have self esteem issues. It is all bullshit just so you know.

EOD and security forces think that they're that they're badasses because compared to the rest of the air force they kind of are, but no, secfo isn't "running missions outside the wire," they lie about that shit all the time though.

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>>32943577
This is bullshit. There has to be a way. I have never in my entire life been more sure about how I want to spend the rest of my life.

It was years ago why can't I get another doctor to say im perfectly fine?
What about officers? What if I took loans payed my way though ROTC?
What if I can get the original doctor to say it was a mistake?

>>32943639

>What if I took loans payed my way though ROTC?

Do you not understand what ROTC is?

Anyway, the reasoning is that you're a liability so the government doesn't want you in the military.

To be completely honest, you could lie about it on your 2807 at meps and get into whichever branch you want. The only thing is that if you ever have to get a top secret or sci addition to that clearance you'll have to sign a form for them to get your civilian medical records.

So long as you're okay to never have a secret squirrel job or billet, you're good to go.

>>32943702
>The only thing is that if you ever have to get a top secret or sci addition to that clearance you'll have to sign a form for them to get your civilian medical records.
Wouldn't it depend on if they can find that doctor? AFAIK the HIPAA exception you sign just allows them to ask the doctor "Does this individual have any medical issues that would compromise their ability to keep secrets?" or something like that. Would be taking a big risk though

>>32943702
>The only thing is that if you ever have to get a top secret or sci addition to that clearance you'll have to sign a form for them to get your civilian medical records.
God. Fucking. Dam. It.
That is EXACTLY why I want to join.

Don't they look at your entire life for that to?
I was running my own business at the time while still in school and getting a 3.8GPA.
I was clearly not FUCKING DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL.

Hasn't anyone found a way around this?
Not only does it fuck me for military, every civilian job I look at for cyber also wants a security clearance.

>>32943764
i'll sound like a total douche but just reading your posts you don't seem to be in a great mental state

>>32943802
I'm not. I just discovered everything I was working towards my entire life was ruined because a fucking srink I saw years ago lied to get easy insurgence money.

Iv never been so angry in my entire life.

>>32943815
For one, you don't have the most believable story in the world. Secondly, your shrink was going to get paid regardless of whether he gave you a diagnosis or not so I'm not sure why you think they're at fault.

Either way this probably isn't going to be the best place for you to get info about your problem. I'd recommend going on reddit and make a new account to ask what your options are

>>32943741

Not sure where you heard that.

I got my sci last year. Signed the hipaa form and now my unit has a complete copy of my civ medical record, had to take a polygraph as well.

>>32943764

You're not applying to a college. This isn't a matter of one part of your application making up for a weak part. If you're disqualified then you're disqualified; they don't care about how good you think you'd be at it based on your supposed civilian achievements.

>>32943852
Interesting, I've heard for TS they're allowed to ask the doc if anything medically about you would compromise your ability to maintain the national security (at least that's what my recruiter said, maybe I should've read the form kek)

>>32943835
>you don't have the most believable story in the world.
Well I have the diploma and articles of organization to prove it, the FEI number you can pull up on my states website and the duns and bradstreet number to prove credit history.

>I'd recommend going on reddit and make a new account to ask what your options are
Ok sorry thanks
Iv never used reddit, guess its time to start.

>>32943835

I already told him the only way he is going to get in. If he goes to reddit and asks about lying then he'll get permabanned on all the military subs.

So now it is a matter if he is a patriot wanting to serve his country wherever it needs him to be or if he is just another faggot who wants the gi bill, a steady paycheck and job training.

>>32943864
I wouldn't say on reddit that you plan on lying, but ask given your situation what your options are
>>32943870
Yeah he shouldn't just go in and say "should I lie" but maybe ask more specifically what his options are

>>32943870
>So now it is a matter if he is a patriot wanting to serve his country wherever it needs him to be or if he is just another faggot who wants the gi bill, a steady paycheck and job training.

I already have a degree, and money. The GI bill offers me nothing. I could never work and live the NEET life for the rest of my life if I wanted. That is not the life I want.

>>32943880
>I wouldn't say on reddit that you plan on lying
I don't plan on lying. I need to pass a background check even if I want to work civilian. Thank you for your help.

>>32943880

Your only option is to lie when you have a condition on your record which is a pdq. The 2807 even asks whether you've been treated for depression, even just that is a pdq.

Not sure what you guys aren't understanding about this. There is no waiver for depression.

>>32943939

>I already have a degree, and money.

That is exactly what my point is.

Lie at meps, join the reserve or guard and choose a job that doesn't require a clearance. This is your only option as you can be jailed for fraudulent enlistment, although they usually just kick people who do that out with an OTH.

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>>32935194
>SF equivalent
>airforce infantry
>physically demanding
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHDJADGDS:FGHDLFGDSAGSGAGA
no

>>32943945
>The 2807 even asks whether you've been treated for depression
Wait. Treated or diagnosed?
I was never treated because I was never depressed.
The srink lied because the insurance company did not want to pay because I seemed fine. My mother just went along with it because she wanted me to talk to someone after the divorce.

>>32944069

I'm saying that both are a pdq - both treatment and diagnosis, the 2807 asks about both.

Nobody cares about what the situation was. It is on your record, so it is true.

how many people can actually run a 18 minute 3 mile? running 1 mile in 6 minutes is hard enough but to do that 3 times seems unbelievable. right now i can barely run 1 mile without walking how do i get better?

>>32944271
last time i ran a 3 miler (timed) was about 2 years ago and i got around 20 minutes
most recent 1.5 mile was 8:37

just go for runs
thats pretty much it

>>32944271

Realistically, anon? Most people in the military ain't in that good of shape. Better than the average American, but if your can bust out 7 minute miles all day then you're fine in 99% of military jobs.

Just got out of AIT, how much BAH can I expect as an e2 nasty girl?

My job is good to cover school but I'd love if uncle Sam covered my rent, pls advise.

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Pic related. I just enlisted as an 11b with the MA NG. Apparently my unit, the 182nd, is 'slated for a deployment' next year, but it's not determined where exactly.

Will I get that sweet, sweet combat deployment to A-stan everyone wants so bad?

>>32944271

I was considered top tier back in the day and I was able to bust out a 19:30. Could max out pull ups and sit ups as well.

Nowadays it would probably take me 26-27 minutes. Sigh.

Just how common is fraternization?

>>32934786
where do you apply to be a deckhand? I want to get in one way or another but am currently preparing to make it into MMA at Kings point as my first choice.

>>32945611

If you don't get in you can enlist in the coast guard, do distance learning for your degree while you're in, and have your time in the coast guard count toward your MM license.

BM rate is what I'm looking at, possibility of lots of boarding actions, and it counts toward a deck officer license.

any navy /engineers/ on famalam? btw dont go engineering unless you are willing to go 100% balls deep for the nay and get your EOOW letter as a third class or something

>>32945515
not that common. true fraternizatin at least. you will have ppl who will be chill and others who might push the bounds. more often then not it will be okay unless you are dating the pretty ensign or managing a hedge fund with senior

>>32944758

BAH?

You only get that when you are deployed or in training to cover your rent/mortgage while you're gone bro. You get more if you are married. Just being in the Guard doesn't get you shit.

Out of curiosity. Can one enlist to US military if he is a citizen of other country? I heard it is possible via embassy and shit, but it might be bullshit. If it is possibe,, what are the limitations then? What MOS can one get into?

>>32946715
You need to already be a legal resident, typically a greencard holder. And the military can't assist your application process, you need to get it on your own merits. I know two brits who applied to American universities just to join the Navy.

It's perfectly doable, it just might take a couple years before everything's actually locked in.

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How does one obtain steroids in the military? Nothing major, just some nice light clen and tren to help with cuts.

>>32944271

In boot pretty much everyone runs 18-20 by the second mock pft.

If you're 18 years old, so long as you're under 22 when you get there you'll be fine. If you can't do that then delay shipping because you won't pass the IST and you'll get put in the fat kid platoon.

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>>32945425
Maybe. Based on what Nicholson was saying, they're doing ok on combat troops, but they have a shortage of support units and advisers. Whether that means they need troops to train Afghanis or more construction teams to build barracks, we probably won't find out until the orders come down.

At this stage, we need at least 50,000 troops there in order to actually make progress, but I don't think the current administration has any stomach for increasing foreign involvement.

>>32946580
>Just being in the Guard doesn't get you shit.

This.

>>32944758
>but I'd love if uncle Sam covered my rent, pls advise.

OH SHIT NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING

Did you really think you got normal active duty pay while drilling once a month at a Guard unit?

>>32944758
>BAH
>NG
wew lad

who here /CACOM/

>>32947746
>>32946580

You get bah when you're not on title 10.

FYI to people looking at the guard: it isn't for poorfags. The ideal candidate would be someone who has a good job and wants to serve and perhaps needs help with paying for advanced degrees.

If you're a kid out of high school who was a shitty student and can't afford college, look at active duty.

What's a good 4 year navy rate that translates to the civilian world

>>32948042
Stuff in intel.
IT or CT stuff.

>>32948470
im pretty bad at math and don't have very good references,are the trade job rates good in the Navy?

>>32948571
>math
Got almost nothing to do with it.
>trade
Sure, there are tons of engineering type jobs. Its hard fucking work but if you enjoy working with your hands and being covered in grease and oil then youll love it.

>>32948678
do those jobs typically do a lot of travelling?

>>32948705
Well theyre on ships so what do you think senpai

cushiest jobs in the chair force?

/fit/ with a 95 ASVAB

The Nurse Corps LT at my unit is cute as fuck

>>32949093
all of them

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>>32949093

oh ya fgt /fit/ with a 99 and denied from AF

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>first apply when I was 20
>parents tell me they'd very much prefer to see me finish school before I join
>finally graduate at 24
>medical shit processes at 25
>realize no matter what I do, I'll be in my 30s by the time I leave

I was all gung-ho to be infantry at first, but the older I get the more I realize that five years spend jumping out of planes is a five year head start for all my peers.

Does pursuing education really work in the infantry? Not a full workload of course, but enough to stay current?

>>32949848
>five years spend jumping out of planes is a five year head start for all my peers
So what? It's five years you'll be jumping out of planes they'll be sitting at a desk doing fuck all

>>32949523
oh fugg what for?

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>>32949867
They'll be making inroads in the industry and attending conferences and laying the groundwork for a career. Veteran status and experience is cool, it would still take additional time to get back into the mindset.

That said, I've been in the world longer than a lot of guys who did enlist when they were 18 and I know that most people, even professionals, don't do shit with their days.

Fuck it, if we're in peacetime I'll do academics, if Trump gets real with the Iranians I'll do my real job. If it puts me behind a few years, so be it. Or maybe I'll get maimed by a EFP and it won't matter.

>>32949848
>head start for all my peers

What peers? Why do you feel the need to keep up with them? It's not a race.

>>32942063
Lie, tell your mother to lie. Thats about all you can do. Don't enlist for anything that requires a polygraph.

>>32949989
Everything is a race, and between losing three semesters to changing majors and a work credit, I'm already two years behind.

Besides, I'm vaguely terrified of turning 35 without anything to show for it.

>>32950039
He doesn't even need to lie. "I am not depressed, I have never been depressed".

>>32931505
They cant pull shit on your medical or criminal record. Dont say anything you think would get you in trouble. As far as they know youre 100 percent healthy

>>32950062

Two years behind who? Your friends? Classmates?

Do you consider yourself thirty years behind someone born thirty years before you?

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>>32950153
They got to watch Miami Vice as it aired, of course I'm behind.

>>32937522
You must be really missing out if you're not getting the 96 pack

>>32950205
96 is only good if you're on a bulk. 60 has the best macros otherwise.

>>32934382
>Fuckin' teenage egos turn every piece of advice into a challenge for their masculinity. It sucks because it's monotonous and pointless, not because it's difficult and intense.

That deserves a bronze plaque somewhere. Dead fucking accurate.

>>32950219
I really need to cut down to 48, so I can get off BCP.

ASVAB scores came in, 98 with 135 GT, how would I fare if I looked to get into special forces?

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>>32950325
I have your exact scores.

As they told me, ASVAB doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot for combat arms stuff as long as you make the prerequisites. There's no preferential selection of smarter guys.

On the other hand, being such a smart lil guy you should be able to research good fitness and diet regimes and research the pipeline thoroughly enough to prepare yourself better than the guys who just squeak by.

Talk me out of quitting my piece of shit customer service job and enlisting.

Also redpill me on The Muhreens.

>>32950563
Marines are only impressive to other Marines.

Your job is shit, join the military.

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Any of you guys actually regret joining the military and can't wait to fucking get out.
I guess those of you that signed up and got jobs that weren't shit feel different but speaking as an 11B, im so over this shit. I would quit right the fuck now if it wasn't financial suicide.

>>32950860
Don't worry bud, there'll be a new war soon.

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>>32950325
18x is a meme to get more idiots into the infantry. The guys who are in charge of SF selection don't want some asshole off the streets even if he's a genius. They want Rangers or minimum 11 bravos with a couple combat tours under their belts.

REAL FUCKING TALK, 98 asvab with a 135 GT is awesome...join the Air Force and get yourself a high paying civvie equivalent MOS. Don't waste your life and brains in the Infantry.

>>32950860
reclass dummy

>>32951103
Im not smart enough to reclass into a MOS worth a damn. Just let me out so I can get a real job ffs

>>32951125
Reclass to the motorpool, learn to fix humvees, then transition to diesel mechanic as a civvie. Solid career, good dough

>>32951012
My recruiter was pushing 35N (Signals Intellegence Analyst) as something that could segway into a career with the NSA. Would you think that this is feasible or am I being fed shit?

>Never looked at the Coast Guard
>Check it out after a lot of prompting
>It lets me dabble in everything from LEO to Intelligence/Counterintelligence to SOF while an enlisted as a posting rather than as a career field
>Sail around the world
>Fight pirates, smugglers, and human traffickers
>Most commands even encourage me to do online classes in my spare time

I wish I had known about this at 18.

>>32951125
If you aren't smart enough to reclass the civilian world won't be any better and being replaced by a machine at Mickey D's isn't a future.

Study. Forget whatever you waste time on and get knowledgeable enough to reclass. Motor pool ain't bad because mechanics never starve, but just reclass for a change of scene and a fresh start if nothing else.

Fuck financial suicide. Instead, chill out, stop being a crybabby, and use your time to your fucking advantage. Take courses. You don't have to LIKE everything you do. If people fucking liked everything they did they'd have to pay to work instead of the reverse.

Go get a retirement pay table, a disability pay table, a BAH table, and an ordinary pay table. Print those motherfuckers so your dumb ass can read them and place in front of your soon to be designated study area, then get to fucking work.

Your problem requires work, and a rectal craniotomy, to solve. Do not be intimidated. Do not be emotional.

It could be worse. You could be the poor bastard who married the town pump, knocked her up, and deployed to find her knocked up again by Jody when he got back.

You have a case of butthurt. That's probably valid, but there are many ways to serve and get PAID. Nothing soaks up tears like green pics of dead presidents.

>>32951315
Honestly IDK much 35 series MOSs.

But if you have an interest in NSA/CIA type jobs, you are more likely to find something with a 35 series intel MOS.

All of those 35 series jobs sound better then 11B. For example, 35LCounterintelligence Agent that's some CIA shit.

If the recruiter is pushing an MOS on you, it is always in his best interest. Research the SHIT out of your chosen MOS.

>>32936357
Well it happened. Someone is too fucking dumb to join the military.

>>32951443
I don't know if I can go on. I hate every waking minute of it.
I joined for all the wrong reasons any way. I didn't join to defend the country or anything noble, I just couldn't find a job doing anything else and the Army seemed like a good idea. Pretending like nothing wrong and "embracing the suck" so to speak is gonna make things worse

>>32951581

35L isn't entry level. You can only reclass into CI in any branch as enlisted at the 3 year mark.

>>32951315
I think he's being straight forward with you. I deployed with 35N's and they dealt with some cyber security elements and one guy I knew in particular would volunteer to work with SF and help out with their communication equipment.
It wasn't radios btw.

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>>32952016
Okay then cut your teeth in 35F and if 35L is more exciting reclass in 3 years.

>>32951988
Shit isn't going to be much better in the civvie world, just treat the Army like any other job. Punch the clock in the morning, bullshit during the day, punch out, and than go to the bar with your friends. Lots of guys use free time to learn a martial art or hit the gym.


How much longer in your contract? Where you stationed?

>>32952091
I got another 3 years....
Probably not gonna make it though. Ill end up probably getting kicked out for "failure to adapt"

Considering the Air Force because I'm too stupid for a STEM degree, it seems pretty hard to fuck up being in the military, and I get paid for the pleasure. Might even get out with a technical skill. Is this a bad idea?

>>32952152
There's a reason why its called the Chair Force.
Most airmen ive talked with usually do their first contracts and get out. Not because it sucked, but they just found better jobs and things to do and got bored and were satisfied with what they got out of it.

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>>32952132
>"failure to adapt"
What are you in AIT or something?

Honestly just keep your heard up. Said you only joined because you couldn't find a civvie job, so I assume you are <20 and legit first job.

This is the real adult world. You hate your job, your bosses, some coworkers. You gotta make the best of it. Find a local bitch to fuck on the regular (DON'T KNOCK HER UP) find some good buddies to drink with, hunt/fish with. Work is work, make the best of your free time.

>>32952152
If you choose an MOS that transitions to a good paying civilian job it is a great idea. Do your research.

>>32952269
Im actualy 23 but whatever I guess this is my life now until my contract is up.

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>>32952284
I tried giving you some solid real advice but it seems like you just wanna be a debbie downer. Drop a reclass packet hope shit gets better, or go awol.

>>32952379
>just suck it up bro, go out drinking with friends
Yeah, great 'advice'. I don't have any friends in my unit and I don't drink. That kind of lifestyle just isn't for me, even though I realize its important for establishing comradrie and easing the pain of doing this shit.
Im just fucked it seems

>>32952497
So make some friends you fucking loser. You don't need to drink to have friends. There are many platonic hobbies beside drinking. Seems like you are fishing for sympathy, I doubt you'll get any of that on /k/, certainly ain't getting it from me.

Done with this thread, good luck in life.

>>32952497
Yeah bro it sounds like you're a bit fucked no matter what uniform you wear. Sorry.

>guard and reserves have warrant officers
How are they expected to be subject matter experts if they're only part time?

>>32952825

>using that disgusting business jargon outside of the incestuous corporate world

I am sickened.

To answer your question, it used to be just something people did for an extra paycheck and the social prestige, but as time has gone on they have been forced to actually become a more serious mode of service and are still adapting to it.

Is going Coast Guard boatswain's mate worth it? Because the chance to do LEO stuff and eventually run your own boat seems cool as fuck.

>>32952902

SME? That's common military terminology and has been for many decades.

>>32951012

You're retarded, do you think they would put you through the pipeline, waste all that time and money, and just drop you because you're a civvy, even if you make it through SFAS and the Q course?

Of course if you're immature ,uninformed, and with the wrong attitude you'll get the boot to the needs of the army, but if you're serious about it it's absolutely possible to make it through.

Hello /k/ friends. I was disqualified last week for eye astigmatism (i'm really nearsighted) So I had to do a bunch of shitty eye tests and submit a waiver.
Just wondering if anyone else has had something like this happen before. The doc and physician at MEPS both told me that I will most likely get in, but I am still nervous and wont get the results back for about a month.
I'm just trying to join the Army National Guard as an engineer and I have perfectly fine vision with glasses or contacs

>>32954479
I'm in your exact shoes. Took about two and a half months to get a waiver for my eyes. I'm finally going in Tuesday for a consult with a civilian optometrist.

>>32954662
wow that sucks. My recruiter was a total bro and got me set up for an appointment with an eye doctor in a week

>>32954687
Wasn't my recruiter's fault. He got me an appointment about a week after MEPs finally signed off on the waiver.

Regardless, I'm fucking pissed at the prospect of going through MEPs three times all together

>>32942655
Join the marines. Theres autistic ones and every one is a clean freak and ocd about uniforms just never mention it at meps

>>32943547
It is true, working out can deplete sugar and release chemicals like thc from fat. Which gets secreted through the piss stream. Fapping can cause protein to be in the urine because the left over semen in the urethra. Dumb ass..

>>32943815
Just lie pussy and take a job with no security clearance theres tons of great jobs like that

>>32954707
yeah I went though MEPS twice already. So fucking tired of that shit. the only upside is that the dudes there don't give me a hard time or anything like that.
My recruiter kept giving me horror stories about MEPS disqualifying people over getting a sprained ankle when they were four or disqualifying people over having too much acne or some crazy shit like that, but the MEPS guys just wanted to go home and just wanted to fill out the form as fast as possible.
>>32954741
I fapped, ate eggs, and shit like that before MEPS and I passed the piss test fine

It's curious how few Brits use this general and yet some Aussies do.

Any other bongs going through recruitment? I can't be the only person disappointed with general AFCO faff.

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If you wash out of Air Force special tactics pipelines, do you automatically get dropped down to Security Forces or to a second job on your list of aptitudes?

TACP or CCT are what I've been preparing myself for this last year, but I'm fairly terrified of fucking up somehow and stamping entry paperwork every day for the rest of my contract.

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>tfw post on /pol/
>tfw will never ever get in to any military because I make BBC threads on a far-right boards and the cucks at the NSA chances are BLACKEDlisted me

>>32957215
Dude just add "ALL POSTS BY THIS IP HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE SATIRE/IRONIC" to your name line. That's how terrorists can get past checkpoints and stuff.

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Some old-school /k/ bitching for you guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71smG5d29to

Is there an enlistment bonus for becoming a marine MP? If so what is it and why shouldn't I become an MP

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>>32957563

>>32957572
I would like to be SRT

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>22
>joining the naval reserves
>pursuing a career as a civilian sailor and commercial diver

What are some hands-on ratings that transfer well to civilian seamanship?
My plan is to have a ship date within 3-4 months, so I can get a dive contract.

>>32957591
Well shit, you should have said so.

Enlistment bonuses are pretty scarce these days, really only for essential jobs Uncle Sam can't fill any other way.

Regardless, SRT is a good gig, go for it.

Any suggestions for brushing up on math for the ASVAB?

I took a practice test and realized how much Algebra and Geometry I had forgotten. The score was acceptable and I didn't fail, but I feel like I could do so much better.

>>32958178
Literally just keep taking practice tests and work the questions out completely on pen and paper until you know the general kinds of questions they ask. Don't feel like an idiot when you google "how to divide fractions", it shows you're willing to do what you have to.

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Is there literally any reason to join the Marines over the Army?

>>32958617
more Trump bros in the Marines tbqh

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>>32957685
Bumping again.

>>32958178
I'm having to do the same. Get an asvab practice book from your local library, that's what i'm doing.

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>>32958617

Style points. It's all well and good to make fun of their cult mindset and outdated, worn out gear, but when you see five marines standing ramrod straight with their chests and chins out in their dress blues, it makes you a little less proud of your frumpy army blouse.

In theory they also have a higher chance of combat deployments, but that's a wash in this quasi-peacetime.

>>32958617
If you like mexicans then yeah

>>32958657
Army has always deployed more than the Marines, especially for combat deployments.

Shit, during the most recent conflicts you had a higher chance of a combat deployment as National Guard than as a Marine.

That aside, basing your decision on how one services' dress uniform compares to another's combat uniform is Marine-level retarded. I probably wore my dress uniform a total of 15 times in 6 years.

>>32958657
>>32958718
How much better is Marine life if you're an Officer vs an Enlisted?

I'm not against getting my hands dirty, quite the opposite -- if someone can't lead from the front they have no business being in charge -- but is the Marines as good of an option for cultivating career skills that will help later on in civilian life as, say, the Air Force?

>>32941203
The USMC is picking up the HK416 now too, so probably not any time soon.
USMC is ordering the guns in 15k gun lot shipments and the orders they need are so larg HK can't keep up right with production now so they're going to give them a factory here to produce them or some shit like that.

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>>32931706

>>32958924

>enlisted
Surrounded by retards

>officer
In command of retards

It depends on your mindset. Extra cash is nice, though.

>>32958924

>Leading from the front

Meme. Officers are not and cannot be expected to keep up with the capabilities of their subordinates in a specialized force.

If you want to lead from the front, be an NCO.

what's the best branch for an autistic /r9k/ robot

>>32960622
Air force would definitely be the easiest.
The Army might have a more positive effect on you though. The marines possibly even moreso.

>>32960622
probably coast guard or national guard.

I have a suspended imposition of sentence for a class b felony drug charge. Am I an instant DQ? I am not convicted of a felony.

>>32960695
>>32961008
why the air force or coast guard? those are the main two that i've been looking at

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How much more difficult is OTS/OCS compared to Boot Camp/BMT?

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>aren't you a little too old to enlist

Bitch I just turned 25, I ain't too old for shit. Take it up with USAREC, they're the ones who dragged their feet for a year processing my wisdom teeth and speeding tickets.

>>32961473
coast guard barely counts as military

>>32961618
That's the average age for an Officer, which is why they're wondering why you aren't commissioning instead.

>>32961362
How long ago was the charge? Was it just for possession or was it for distribution?

Drug-related charges are usually a serious pain in the ass, but most of them aren't PDQ materiel.

>>32961651
Because I don't like powerpoint.

Also because I don't want a commitment longer than three or four years and butterbars don't get to do shit right now.

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>>32961663
It happened in 2010 and I completed my probation early on good behavior. Ive been thinking about getting my record expunged but i qanna be an MP SRT

>>32961703
Getting your record cleared would probably be faster than waiting for the moral waiver and all the shit that you would have to deal with during your security clearance process.

>>32961733
Do you know much about that MOS?

>>32961703
>>32961733
Oh but that said, be just call up a recruiter and run it by them first. Call one in a different state if it makes you feel better about it, just ask if your particular charge is going to keep you out of your desired MOS and if an expunged record affects things down the line.

>currently 41c outside

>wanna go for a run but also dont want heatstroke

what do i do

>>32961750
All I know is that it requires a top secret security clearance, and those can get tripped up by legal stuff. If the charge was suspended and shit it might be less of an issue, but getting it expunged would be the safest way to go.

Some guys here would recommend moving to a different state and applying there, but that kind of shit makes me nervous.

What's the housing situation typically like for E-4 MI soldiers in INSCOM?
These shitty cramped DLI barracks are killing me inside.

>>32961774
Nigger where the fuck do you live.

>>32961792
australia

>>32961835
Move to a country less than fifty feet away from the sun.

>>32961778
Moving states isn't going to cause the TS investigation to not see his legal history

>>32962248
Any advice on the situation?

>>32961862
>less

Do rangers really guard the post office?

About to graduate college with a degree in Information Systems, Going to go officer side in the AF, is intelligence a meme, or are there any other AFSC's for computer nerds like me?

Am I fucked in joining the army or any other branch if I have some semi visible self harm scars from when I was a stupid kid?

>>32964904
not at all. as long as the scars aren't obvious self harm scars. otherwise just tell them that you got cut on some barbed wire. that's what I told them for my surgical scars and it worked fine

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I want to fly fighters.

I've got good vision, I'm not a fat fuck, healthy all around, AND I'm an eagle scout :^)

I know it's competitive but if I'm set on it I'm set on it.

My question is= OTS vs. ROTC? I'm a freshman at Seattle University and University of Washington has a crosstown agreement here.

Any pilots or ex pilots here? What is the route most likely to get me into UPT and into fighters?

>>32965697
ALSO

Will they say "fuck off weeaboo" is I show up with a film degree or something?

>>32933536

lol 5 whole degrees
go do pt @ ft.richardson

Prior service here. I had a juvenile record but was able to get a waiver back when they needed people.
>theft
>marijuana
>speeding
>curfew

A couple years ago I dun goofed again.
>agg. assault (DV because blood relation)
I gave a plea in exchange for deferred adjudication and when probation is over the charge will be expunged. My rights will be fully restored, and basically it will be like it never happened except the Feds keep it in a sealed file in case of recidivism.

Okay, now, in case I cannot get a waiver in the event of increased manpower/new conflicts, how about PMC? Will I be able to get a Secret clearance?

>>32937756
Yeah, you can. Its called PICAT or so!e shit like that. Its basically the asvab but not timed. When you go to MEPS you then take a 30 question or so confirmation test. And then 1 of 4 have to take the asvab for reasons. I did it. Got 98 on the PICAT and 95 on the ASVAB.

>>32966338
Welp never mind I guess
>AR-601-210 Enlistment Regs
>4–22. Nonwaivable
>t. Person with PS who incurs a major misconduct conviction during or after military Service.

>>32966338
>>32966795
Deferred adjudication isn't a conviction though.

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>>32966954
Not exactly. It is considered as 'other adverse disposition' (OAD) which is as good as a conviction in the eyes of the military. The logic is that you would not have entered into a plea bargain if you were innocent. Even if you plead guilty to a lesser charge, they consider it as the initial charge. I am not complaining, but I am just learning about this now. I also learned that assault involving ANY blood relative can count as domestic violence, and a conviction will result in permanent loss of firearms (including military and police). At this point I am thankful that I can still get it expunged and get my rights fully restored. It is a draconian law that was slipped into an omnibus bill by (((Frank Lautenberg))). Some states do not even allow expungement.

>>32966954
Interesting that it doesn't literally say 'conviction/OAD' like all the other ones though. I will ask a recruiter. There is a 30-day waiting period after you complete probation.

>>32967137
>Some states do not even allow expungement.
I should say that expungement does not restore your rights if you were actually convicted. Polite sage for OT.

can i le make gint poopy in my diaper while the officer goes "FAAART" and i pee on his penis? haha

Are Spartan races a good way to train for sof selection?

>>32951315
> or am I being fed shit?

Sort of. Working as a federal civilian in the IC requires at minimum a 4 year degree.

So there are a few things your recruiter isn't addressing because he probably doesn't know better:

You need at minimum a 4 year degree.

If you don't have a 4 year degree before you enlist then the TS/SCI is going to be worthless because it lapses after two years of not holding a position that requires it. Thus anywhere you go after you graduate requires a new SF86 and investigation anyway. This is because a clearance doesn't follow you per se, it's only good for the position you're in. But if you get into another position requiring a clearance within the 2 year time limit you don't require a new SF86. This is assuming you went through clearance renewal at the 5 year mark which is typical.

You may find out that the IC isn't for you. I worked with plenty of guys and went through the school house with likely even more who just didn't care enough for the work to continue into the IC as a civilian. Your goals and desires are going to change. Mine did, in the opposite direction. I didn't know I wanted to stay in the IC until I deployed and actually worked. And now I'm hopefully headed to get my Master's at a university that is heavily recruited at and I'm angling myself to get back in as a civilian.

>>32951012
>The guys who are in charge of SF selection

How the fuck would you know?

>>32968088
Dude, bro don't even worry about that. Just make sure you don't look retarded when you stop shaving. You're going to be training local nationals. Typically they can't even do one push-up (srsly).

>>32963869
OORAH

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>>32931462
How does a Coat Guard Officer go about joining a DSF (MSRT, MSST, TACLET) team?