All he did was attempt to smash a terrorist uprising What

>>32861466
Lose.

>>32861471
Good guys don't always win.

They tried to paint him bad but in the end he was just a faithful gallant knight of His Royal Highness King George III

>>32861466
Be a limey faggot

>>32861487
Winners write history though.

You wanted a honest answer and you got one.

>>32861466
Nothing. Yanks didnt understand the concept of tax, threw a shitfit over tea, backstabbed the nation that created, governed, financed and supplied them by allying with France, and then not long after decided to start butchering each other en masse over whether you had ownership of your niggers or whether they were technically 'paid labour' (because the North realised it was actually cheaper to pay them a wage than it was to feed, house and clothe them and therefore you could make more money from your niggers by selling them all those necessities).

America truly is the last great social experiment.

>>32861466
American terrorists used their unjustified and brutal terror-attacks to ambush the British gentlemen. American terrorists were basically no better than Niggers and other spear-wielding and man-eating aboriginals.

He did nothing wrong, aside of not going full Zulu against the American terrorists.

>>32861466

He lost, and King George III was a good sport so it wouldn't do well to paint HIM as the bad guy of the story.

>>32861554
This kek.

"American history" is a dumb joke. Literally it's like some special needs kid who is autistically screeching and violently throwing a tandrum because he's told to comply with the same rules like everyone else.

If England still ruled the US, Obongo and Trump wouldnt have happened.

If only.

>>32861554
salty bong detected. concept of tax? paying for shit without getting anything in return - there is not a whole lot about it to understand.

>>32862011

Not him, but that's not true. Britain had been fight an extremely expensive war fighting France in America. Compared to the rest of the empire, America wasn't paying its fair dues.

>>32861466
Well, there was that one thing. You know, that time with the church, and the unarmed women and children, and the lighting it on fire and killing them all.

>>32861554
>Yanks didnt understand the concept of tax,
We understood the concept, we objected to being taxed without being represented in Parliament as is the right of every British subject.

>>32862011
Nope, just not an overzealous murican who views yank history with patriotic red white and blue tinted glasses.
And if you honestly believe tax is 'paying money to recieve nothing in return', why on earth do you pay taxes now? Why havent you had another war over it? Do you honestly believe the 'taxation is theft' commie meme?
No tax = no government spending on vital infrastructure, social programs, defence, provision of goods, basically everything needed to run a stable economy/nation state.

>>32862044
>Britain had been fight an extremely expensive war fighting France in America. Compared to the rest of the empire, America wasn't paying its fair dues


you are shitting me right? even in the movie Gibson is a vet of those wars. fuck off. if only the FF logged pennsylvania to make a fleet and level London... in the movie Lieutenant General Charles, Lord Cornwallis spells the british sentiments towards Americans out quite accurately: they are a means to an end, the end being cash flow to the crown.

You know it was a movie right

>>32862001
If England still ruled the US, you wouldn't be able to own funs, you'd have to bin your knife, and you couldn't use the term "expectant mother" or own bicycle wheels.

>>32862078
> thinking a movie called 'The Patriot' will in any way, shape or form be an accurate representation of historical fact

I bet you can also count your IQ on your fingers and toes

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>>32862075
>Nope, just not an overzealous murican who views yank history with patriotic red white and blue tinted glasses.

1st, I'm Austrian.

>And if you honestly believe tax is 'paying money to recieve nothing in return', why on earth do you pay taxes now? Why havent you had another war over it?

Because I've expressed such sentiments thinly weiled and have been met with responses ranging from centempt, laughter, ridicule, Nazi accusations as well as threats of violence.

>Do you honestly believe the 'taxation is theft' commie meme?

No. I know that taxation is theft. Es evidenced by EU taxation practises where unelected bureaucrats receive higher pay than POTUS....

>No tax = no government spending on vital infrastructure, social programs, defence, provision of goods, basically everything needed to run a stable economy/nation state.

All these things are provided by people, not the .gov.

>>32862078

Jesus christ you are literally retarded.

Regardless, nothing you said actually disputes my post.

>>32862001
Self-defense is essentially illegal and there is no concept of freedom of the press, freedom from unlawful search and seizure, or anything like the Second Amendment.

Brits are comfortable slaves but their country is being sold from underneath them to their future Arab overlords.

>>32862134
>>32862118
must be horrifying to be a bong.... when you have to live vicariously through looking at pictures of other people's guns on a mongolian camel milking forum....

>>32862131
First off, I agree the EU is a socialist abomination.

> all those things are provided by the people
Yeaahh, no. Nobody wants to front the capital for something others will use for free, unless youd want every single road to be a toll road.
Governments build roads, power plants, hospitals, schools, lay water, gas and electricity pipes, defend the nation and employ many people to do so. Government spending is also a crucial part of the Demand equation; aggregate demand = Consumer spending + Investment + Government spending + (Exports - Imports).

Also, at the time, the only major companies big enough to be able to even partially provide those things were British, and even then nowhere near able to provide all those goods and services. Therefore, it would be down to the people to front the bill, and thats how you end up with a third world country like (insert African nation here), and notice how (chosen African nation) has little to no government expenditure.

Learn to macroeconomics dude.

>>32861466
Nigel C. Nigelson of Her Majesty's Royal Blokes gets BTFO by mad max, a nigger, and the joker.

>>32862158
> the majority of /k/
> actually being hasguns

Fuck me youre fresh off the boat arent you kiddo. Im getting my FAC this summer, and I dont particularly care about owning an AR15 with distended clipazines as long as nobody else has one. Besides, 39,850 more Americans die from household appliances each year than Brits do from guns. Id rather not have every 2 bit retard being able to own a firearm.

>>32862210
>Governments build roads, power plants, hospitals, schools, lay water, gas and electricity pipes, defend the nation and employ many people to do so.

No. all that was pioneered by privateers in the beginning of those things. Governments came much later and seized this infrastructure because it's how you project power internally, not because of their good nature.

>Government spending is also a crucial part of the Demand equation; aggregate demand = Consumer spending + Investment + Government spending + (Exports - Imports).

lol.

>Also, at the time, the only major companies big enough to be able to even partially provide those things were British, and even then nowhere near able to provide all those goods and services.

How then were the services provided? Big magic . gov black box? No, .gov uses contractos to do shit.

>Therefore, it would be down to the people to front the bill, and thats how you end up with a third world country like (insert African nation here), and notice how (chosen African nation) has little to no government expenditure.

1st most Africans are ate pre Iron age stage intellectually so that's no argument. 2nd, african .gov usually steal everything to buy guns and goods in order to stay in power.

>Learn to macroeconomics dude.

lol

>>32862244
>Id rather not have every 2 bit retard being able to own a firearm.

And this attitude of "I am better than everybody else" is why in reality you are actually just trash.

>>32861466
He is an actor. The Patriot is a movie. Everything you saw was done in front of cameras on what's called a set. Nobody actually died.

>>32862276
> lol
Non argument is a non argument. Sad!

Also, would you prefer having to stop every time you changed roads and pay a toll? I can guarantee it would be more costly than your monthly tax, especially when taken advantage of by monopolies who could charge as high a price as they wanted and you would have to bend over and take it. At least with governments the people have some say in what happens. Only in a quasi-free market with high competition would you see the best parts of low prices, innovation and customer attention.

> government uses contractors

No shit. However, without that government money, those contractors wouldnt be able to expand and hire more people and thus benefit the economy through the accelerator and multiplier effects.

Damn I hate commies.

>>32861466
lose.

>>32862363
>Also, would you prefer having to stop every time you changed roads and pay a toll?

You are arguing somebody who you made up in your head. You have no idea what I am suggesting should be done to replace the current system and you have proofs that's what would happen.

>Damn I hate commies.

M-me too!

>>32862293
> 'I am better than everybody else'
Not at all, I just find it utterly retarded how many people are killed both intentionally and accidentally with firearms in the US. Just go on the next Negligent Discharge thread when it pops up. If it was you, your wife, your dog, whatever who got shot because some dipshit got drunk and ND'd through a wall, you probably wouldnt be too happy that someone that dumb and negligent was able to get a gun.

Im all for firearms, Im all for your constitution, but with a right there is also a responsibility, which, as shown, can be seriously lacking in many circumstances.

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>>32861466
Fucked with America

>>32862044
The war started because of the British in the first place.

You can't blame us for your shit.

>>32862427
>Just go on the next Negligent Discharge thread when it pops up. If it was you, your wife, your dog, whatever who got shot because some dipshit got drunk and ND'd through a wall, you probably wouldnt be too happy that someone that dumb and negligent was able to get a gun.

While you are at it, pls find me the report on said "through the wall shooting" happening in the US. Yes, there are negligent gun deaths in the US like a toddler shooting their mom with her unsheathed Gluck brand Glick they found in her purse. Big whoop I say. Most unintentional killings are byproduct of crimes like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kathryn_Steinle
white US places don't have higher crime than say Sweden.

>Im all for firearms, Im all for your constitution, but with a right there is also a responsibility, which, as shown, can be seriously lacking in many circumstances.

>I'd rather be a slave than award my fellow man and neighbor the right to own a gun

classic

>>32861531
>Winners write history though.
The more culturally influential side writes history. This is usually the winner, because cultural influence often follows political and military might, but not always, eg. the Mongols won, but they were not culturally dominant. Also the British/French with regard to the shithole African colonies they've lost. France might've lost Algeria, but they wrote the history of that loss.

>>32862402
If its not government, its private, or communal.

If its private:
A) you magically have a fully free market economy with no intervention, allowing corporate cronyism, price fixing, and cartel action amongst those firms who emerge as the largest market shareholders, in which case, the people get fucked in the long run when it devolves into monopoly or duopoly.
B) One or two firms with enough capital provide these services, and charge either per use or as subscription. Again they have no duty to report to the consumer, can price fix, and if you dont like it, all you get is a big 'fuck you'. They have no obligation to do anything except make profit.

If its communal:
Everyone pays the same share, on the assumption of equal use. However, when someone needs to use more of that good, they will have to pay more; those who provide that good will argue that they should pay less or nothing at all. Then it devolves into fractional use; 'well I only use X half as much as Joe does, why do we have to pay the same?'. Then comes the task of who gets the shitty jobs that nobody wants; do they recieve better contribution for their work? If not, nobody will do it. If so, who will pay for the extra without a guarantee of extra use? If that happens, people start getting paid privilege, thus those who dont pay as much are pushed further and further down the line, until the average person is once again shat on by those with more money, power and situational influence.

Revolting was worth it simply to have the second amendment.

Otherwise had we remained cucks to their mad king, we would have Ausfailian-tier gun laws now.

The whole revolution was about BTFOing gun grabbers. Simple as that.

>>32861466
>What did he do wrong?
Lost hearts and minds.
His actions pushed borderline Tories into fighting for the insurgency he was trying to supress.

>>32862511
> slave

What are you going to pull out of your arse next pal? A fluffy white rabbit?
And again, im perfectly happy with people being able to own guns, just not any dipshit who can act normal for a couple hours and hasnt been caught for a crime.
British gun laws are pretty shit, but they definitely deter the stupid or those who just want to fuck around.

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>>32861466
>What did he do wrong?
Burned the farmhouse of the main character for giving aid and comfort to the enemy despite acting as a field hospital for both Americans and British, shot an unarmed teenager who could have easily been physically restrained and posed no real threat to his men, burned an entire town's worth of unarmed noncombatants, was generally insufferable and assholey, disregarded the orders of his superior officer leading to his own defeat, etc.

BTW, the church thing did happen, but it wasn't Banastre Tarleton, and it wasn't the American revolution. It was called the Oradour-sur-Glane massacre and it took place in WWII when elements of the Waffen SS did the same to a French village. Then again, you're probably 13 years old and your favorite overwatch hero is Reaper so why am I wasting my time with the likes of you

>>32862555
>just not any dipshit who can act normal for a couple hours and hasnt been caught for a crime.

Your most highly esteemed Majesty,

what are thine requirements thusly for one of low stature like myself to aquire an arm then?

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>>32862555
Your handgun ban caused firearm homicide rates to increase for a whole decade and a year than the year before the ban.

Fuck off Limeycunt. The only countries with good gun laws are Switzerland and the Czech Republic who have much lower homicide rates than the United Cuckdom.

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>>32862590
in Europe*

>>32862583

Calm down lad, no need to throw a wee tantrum.

Be able to prove proficiency with a firearm in terms of handling, being able to store it properly, being able to act responsibly with said firearm, having said firearm registered, maybe a test once every 5 years showing you still know how to do whats stated above and arent a dribbling mong. Basically the equivalent of a driving licence for guns.

Is that so abhorrent?

Founding fathers were all free mason devil worshippers

>>32862571
That shit is just another one of those fake anti-nazi propaganda
didn't happen

>>32862590
> an increase in 5 people per million at its maximum, and on a scale of total homicides, not gun related homicides, marginal enough to be able to be related to other variables. Correlation =/= causation

Ill give you a 3/10 for effort though man

>>32861466
He failed to be the main character.

>>32862663
see
>>32862599
Dumb cunt.

You crucified Nigel when he correctly said the ban was useless shit.

Stay subservient to your fucking Muslims, the UK is horrendous for negative liberties. The biggest nanny state in the world alongside Australia.

>>32862631

>Be able to prove proficiency with a firearm in terms of handling,

So catch 22 then? Because you need to train with a gun to become proficient with a gun terms of handling ....

>being able to store it properly,

ok. what does that look like?

>being able to act responsibly with said firearm,

rubber paragraph much?

>having said firearm registered,

lol. unless you are a well connected muslim criminal, the only thing you can get are registered gun anyway. Do you even know the process of how to aquire a gun in the UK atm?

>maybe a test once every 5 years showing you still know how to do whats stated above

ah, more taxes to make guns more expensive - we have the same shit ehre actually.

>and arent a dribbling mong. Basically the equivalent of a driving licence for guns.

licenses have to be renewed every 5 years in the UK?

>Is that so abhorrent?

Yes. Owning things is my human right. I'm not a criminal for owning shit, be it a loaf of bread or a M2 machine gun or a functioning T-72 tank. When https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Nelson_(plumber) went on a rampage, it was the .gov who failed to store the weapon properly. did they get their license to own wepons revoked? I doubt it. I become a criminal when I use things to commit crmes. Then and only then may you come after me with your shitty laws. Also:>>32862590 >>32862599

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>>32862678
> you crucified Nigel
> One person represents the whole nation
> muslims
> US has more muslims than UK and a far lower percentage of whites

Kek, Im done. GG though pal

>>32862738
> US has more muslims than UK and a far lower percentage of whites
>wtf is per capita

>>32862738
>us has more muslims

Barely you fucking idiot and our nation is 324 million.

You have a vastly higher percentage of them and per capita.

>betrayal of 1400 children

UKIP is the only party seeking to roll back the kneejerk laws you fucking idiot.

>>32862738
>>32862839
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/12132641/Number-of-UK-Muslims-exceeds-three-million-for-first-time.html

my sides

>some london neighborhoods are more than 50% Muslim

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>>32862631
>registering guns

Absolutely useless. Canada got rid of theirs for a reason.

Registration has been used for nothing but confiscation.

You do not need a driver's license to operate a car on private roads or property.

Why is Switzerland far safer than the Great Shittain with laws laxer than some US states?

>>32861466
>ITT

Britfags try to defend their shitty country and their shitty gun laws to /k/

>>32862898
>Why is Switzerland far safer than the Great Shittain with laws laxer than some US states?

Because

>Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.

>>32862898
Why do liberals always say "well in Switzerland they're not allowed to have ammo outside of the gun range"? I hear this a lot and then I hear a lot of people saying it's not true, so which is it?

>>32863039
It's a lie.

>>32863039
they stopped issuing consripts ammo with their service guns; formerly you'd get a sealed pack of ammo in case.. you know... the russians invaded or some shit. you can own ammo at home obviously. the only restriction is, you can't be transporting a hot gun. it has to be unloaded but the ammo can be right next to it in the container you use for transport.

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Do some of you idiots think the war was really over taxes?
>The Brits weren't trying to collect taxes when the first battle broke out.
>The army of New England didn't form and surround Boston because they wanted a tax refund.

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>All these salty bongs

Stay mad

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>>32861466
>terrorist
>They actively moved to a different part of the fucking world to live on their own
He was a dumb limey fascist.

>>32862075
>Do you honestly believe the 'taxation is theft' commie meme?
????

>>32862244
Keep on Cuckin' britbong.
Enjoy your diversity btw.

>>32863155
>Carrys

>>32863256
Not that dude but you know they have more whites per capita than we do, right?

>>32863326
Smaller country obviously, that and it the policies over there ensure that the UK will be brown town in the soon to be future.

>>32863326
They also don't have mexico right underneath them.

>>32861466

Nothing? It was a shitty British hating movie. That said, the French major was cool.

>>32861554
from what i hear us didn't even pay tax

the whole war was done by a bunch of rich fuckers and the free masions to controll and tax the locals

usa was a truely free land until the war started to over throw the british rule

>>32861554
How like modern times. The tea parties eau Boston are certainly common XD

>>32863256
>t. 62%

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>>32861466

>What did he do wrong?

Pissed off Mel Gibson.

>>32861554
I'm starting to think this. Yanks are just like colonial Brits, but at least the Brits went through actual hardship with two world wars on their soil. Jews are always a difference maker, but jew don't fight as much as they fund. That's why they are trying to "culturally enrich" the western world while using the media to brainwash the idiots (liberal men/women, blacks, mexicans) against the one group who can stand against them. Plus Islam is evil. Always fucking has been, always will be. Once a goatfucker, always a goatfucker. Sorry for the long winded bullshit.
tldr; America is just like Britain, can't admit that's what made them great, also jew is bad for everyone

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>>32866011

>jew is bad for everyone

>>32866042
Zionists sorry.

>>32861471

fpbp. If it wasn't for them losing I wouldn't have all the "America fuck yeah" stuff I love today.

>>32861471
FPBP

>>32862590
>>32862599
>Your handgun ban caused firearm homicide rates to increase for a whole decade and a year than the year before the ban.
Correlation =/= causation. Considering handguns are objectively worse for home defense than rifles/shotguns which were still legal and to my knowledge the UK didn't have concealed carry when handguns were legal, them banning handguns probably wasn't the cause of that increase.

>>32862525
Ancap retards BTFO.

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>>32862488
>American war party under Washington's command ambushes and murders French diplomatic party, pissing off the French and prompting the British to send an expeditionary force at great cost
>American settlers push into Ohio River Valley, pissing of the Injuns and requiring Britain to send thousands of soldiers to protect the colonists from Pontiac and friends
>American colonists drive up costs for England, though they pay the lowest tax rate in the entire Empire, and chimp out when told it's time to pay their share

Totally England's fault, friend.

>>32861554
You do realize that a large amount of Commerce in the Colonies occurred with the Dutch right? Then the British became upset that they were losing profits so they banned trading with anyone outside of the British for certain staples like Tea. Then they jacked up the prices on those common goods making them affordable. That's when the colonies started to get really pissed, when the Crown decided it didn't like free markets and democracy.

>>32861466
Fail.

>>32862145
>self defense is illegal
No.
>No freedom of press
No.
>Police can stop and search you
Only with reasonable cause and it's not as if American police are any better in that regard.

>>32862011
>anything in return
Roads/public works, Law, Protection

>>32862158
Strawman when things dont go your way, ah yes....

>>32862075
>I'm literally retarded and never paid attention in US History.
>No taxation without representation
Well, you know how we have the House and the Senate...

>>32866011
>two world wars on their soil

Wew lad

>>32867039
>The Empire was just and treated all citizens fairly, one of two prices for subjugation (the other being blood).
>Imperialism isn't costly.
>Wah, my unrepresented subjects bit off more than they could chew and if I want their money in the future I have to go save them now.
This is Government, yes.
It was our fault for treating ourselves like second-class citizens, yes.
Your understanding of global politics is amazing. You should speak at conferences or some shit.

>>32863123
Atleast learn how to greentext you nigger.

>>32862072
>That time with the church
The bongs a shit, but The Patriot isn't a fucking documentary. That literally never happened.

>>32862118
I bet you can count your IQ on your remaining teeth.

>>32862244
>>32862427
SHALL
What you fucking innumerate bongs forget is that you're a tiny fucking island nation while we have a population of over 300 million.

>>32861554
Tax is theft
94pbp /thread

>>32866011
Actually usa was colonised mostly by germans

The english language was chosen over the german war by just one vote


Also ww1 and ww2 was thought of as a civil war due to both sides germans and americans both being germans mostly

>>32862321
Jee thanks I've sure been learned good

>>32867795
The channel islands were occupied and there was fighting on British-controlled land and there was fighting over (in the air) British controlled land, and the enemy was on the doorstep a few miles away

But yeah still poor wording from him

>ITT americucks in damage control

What's it feel like that a nation the size of one of your states is more civilised than your own?

>>32862738

>WHAT IS PER CAPITA

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>>32861554
>not long

The antebellum period lasted 90 years you fucking limey faggot

>>32870704
Aren't you late for your daily muzzie sucking, Bongcuckistani?

>>32873656
>Britain has the fewest muslims population in europe
>US has more
>whites in the US make up 62% of the population

Have you just finished sucking black and muzzie cock, Americuckold? What's life like in the united cucks of new africa?

France was the good guy. They just wanted to kick British ass.

>>32867300

American police don't arrest you and confiscate your tool knife if they see it sticking out of your back pocket. American police shoot terrorists. American police beat rioters. American police are better than "bobbies" in every way.

>>32862650
>>>/pol/

>>32862530
Australian gun laws are not the way they are simply because we are part of the commonwealth.
Research.
Typical yank.
Actually, you aren't that stupid seppo that thinks Australia is part of the EU?, are you?

>>32877063

> American police beat rioters

tell that to Berkeley

This thread is chock a block with triggered yankee doodles, love it