Why don't you carry DA/SA? https://www.youtube.com/wat

>striker fired has a consistent trigger pull every time
>striker fired is internal therefore less malfunctions/potential issues

>>32818225
The first gun I ever shot was the Beretta 92FS. I was 4 years old. Family still has that fucker and I want it bad.

>>32818255
>muh consistent trigger pull

a buzzword if I ever heard one. Try practicing DA/SA and you'll notice that it's not an issue once you learn it.

>striker fired is internal therefore less malfunctions/potential issues

pfhahahahahah

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8oMnGbnh4

>>32818304
Why do I feel like this post is extremely biased? What I posted was factual.

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Im like hickock, I dont like the change in trigger pull and honestly kind of glad im not alone in this.
Also I find them to usually have a higher bore axis, be heavier and theyre slowly being pushed out for striker fired anyway

still, that was like half of my wish list in the gutter when I found out I dont like DA/SA which was pretty disappointing. Im a striker baby at heart

Because da/sa complicates something that should be very simple. Why train with two different trigger pulls when you can just choose one. Also da/sa have an inferior sa to sao, same goes for da. If you can't remember to flick off a fucking safety then just go striker fired

>>32818255
Yeah, consistently shit every time

>>32818677
Not every striker trigger is a Glock trigger.

>>32818225
Because only decent trigger is p226. Hk DA is heavy as fuck. So might as well go LEM or Locked and Cocked.

>>32818225

Because I carry a 1911.

... that's it, really. I don't have anything against DA/SA guns in general. Just ones that literally don't let you carry the gun in condition 1, like the Makarov. Still wouldn't be that much of a problem, if the Mak's uncocked trigger pull wasn't such a whore. You can halfass it and carry it with the hammer half-cocked, but that's a lot riskier than a 1911 (or any DA/SA) in condition 1.

So, yeah, you know. If I had a DA/SA nicer than some surplus slavshit, I'd carry it, but I don't, so... I don't.

>>32818225
because it's slowpoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzxGmzBx44

I personally perfer DA/SA, I find the first DA pull to be a better choice in stressful situations. In the case of my 92fs I changed the D spring so my DA pull is a smooth 10lbs and SA is a sweet 4lbs. My first pull from draw gives me the chances to start the pull as my sights are coming into alignment, instead of waiting for my sights to line up then start the pull. With striker fired handguns, I've personally seen people fire before they were on target due to the 3lb trigger job they put on there handgun. Under a timed training exercise, stress gets the better of people and the tend to pull the trigger prematurely, causing a miss. to put things in simpler terms a well trained DA/SA shooter will in most cases out shoot a striker fired shooter.

To familiarize yourself with DA/SA beretta training, I would recommend watching ernest langdon, or better yet go to a few of his courses.

Lessons learned: hit the range, ALOT. GIT GUD.

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>ITT: strikerbabbies whining about "muh consistent trigger pull and high bore axis"

Fun fact: if you cannot wrap your mind around managing a 10-12lb trigger pull, high bore axis shouldn't even begin to be a consideration for someone such as your low skill ass. Even then, high bore axis isn't a concern to people who can actually shoot

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>>32818674
I carry a DA/SA that I treat like a SAO because I wasn't sure what I wanted and see no reason to switch guns now.

>>32818225
>Why don't you carry DA/SA
Because the first shot matters to me

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>>32818225
For my whole life I've been single stack ready for double action, but the likelihood of that is slim to none.

>>32818699
>>32818947
same. i used to carry a DA/SA S&W .38 special. it was a totally badass old school six shooter. but then i got a hold of a 1911 and fell in love instantly

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>>32818225
Sig P228 WG Reporting

I practice, in fact I dryfire enough that I'm slightly more accurate with the DA pull

>>32819341
I have a German P226 and I too am more accurate with the DA pull than I am with the SA pull. I haven't shot it in a while but it's something that I observe every time I take it out to shoot.

What's funny is that I don't even register the transition from DA to SA like how everyone makes a big deal of. Like I literally do not even have it in my mind that I'm shooting two different trigger pulls.

>>32819376
people don't struggle with the transition from DA to SA, they struggle with trigger control on the DA pull.

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>>32819402
>they struggle with trigger control on the DA pull.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there's really not a whole lot of good information pertaining to this. However, there are four good videos from both Luckygunner and Ernest Langdon's youtube page that have videos on this subject that I think a lot of DA shooters can benefit from.

The hardest part for DA/SA shooting is that first SA shot, really. Shooting that DA pull is cake considering you can get a lot of quick repetitions done since you don't have to constantly rack the slide inbetween reps while dryfiring.

Fuck, I got a Glock 19 a month ago and I'm trying to resist selling it for a PX4 Compact.

>>32819432
Obviously that first repeatable DA pull while dry firing will go a long way towards taming it. personally, I've never struggled with the transition but when I bought the gun I certainly struggled with that first DA pull, how many times have you seen shooters on the range cock the hammer so they didn't have to deal with that DA pull.. I was that guy back in 93 when I bought it

>>32818661
>Also I find them to usually have a higher bore axis, be heavier

Your points kinda negate each other. They tend to be bulkier due to the mechanism, but bore axis is like the last refuge of a shoddy argument. Take the 92fs and CZ75, both markedly soft shooters. Same either Px4s,GPs and USPs.

>>32818304
This, I dry fire DA constantly and I can stage it pretty damn well if I want

Also Walther P99 says hello

>>32819432
Px4?

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>>32819432
>Fuck, I got a Glock 19 a month ago and I'm trying to resist selling it for a PX4 Compact.

In the same boat. I just have the issue with supply. No one fucking stocks this weapon anywhere near me and while I think the compact is exactly what I want I need to hold one in my hand before dropping $500+ on a firearm. Love the Glock and for general purpose gun it is great. I just cannot comfortably carry in condition 0.

>>32818225
Because I like consistent trigger pulls...
Not even going to bother with your video.

>>32818304
I carried a Beretta for many years.
Consistent trigger pull is far superior.
I will never go back.

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>>32820314
>I just cannot comfortably carry in condition 0.

Get a gadget. Gives you an extra layer of safety for your Glock and it's 100% passive

>>32820314
Glawk will never fire without trigger pulled even if you threw it from a plane.

>>32820633
>throw glock out of a plane
>trigger lands on someones finger pointing at the idiot throwing guns out of plane
>finger pushes trigger

Glocks can fire without the trigger being pulled

>>32820633
If I finger fuck on a fumble draw during a high stress situation, I am going to blow off my testicles. Plus what if there is some wayward piece of fabric that gets caught in the guard when I go to reholster? Just not worth it imo. I don't even have a fast draw holster to begin with. I'm not going to be able to draw while being drawn on to begin with. No sense risking a misfire that kills me in the most humiliatingly ironic way possible for a CCW holder.

>>32820628
I have been eyeballing one. Getting a lot of mix reviews about quality and reliability.

>>32820691
>Getting a lot of mix reviews about quality and reliability.

Are you talking about the gadget specifically? It's reliable across a bunch of test samples with +1,000 rounds through each one. Several of them exceed the 20,000 round count easily.

>>32820691
Here's a tip: never put finger inside trigger guard until barrel is parallel to the ground.

2. Angle holster away from nuts when reholstering. No one is rushing you.

>>32818225

Because when under stress, fine motor skills needed to accurately shoot a heavy trigger go out the window, and I'd rather not have a more bulky gun with a heavier 1st shot trigger for absolutely no benefit.

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>>32822322
>Because when under stress, fine motor skills needed to accurately shoot a heavy trigger go out the window

Which is why fighter pilots spill their spaghetti, having to manipulate different knobs, switches and controls under stress, right? God fucking forbid having to reload under stress, your thumb could miss that tiny little button holy shit!

You really should learn how the human body works and maybe how to shoot DA/SA as well. Also, DA/SA has two benefits that are not offered in striker or SAO guns.

>>32818255
>striker fired has a consistent trigger pull every time

Seeing that most striker fired handguns have a 8 to 9lb trigger out of box, "combat triggers". Having an extra pound trigger in a DA won't make a difference in a high stress situation. Difference is with DA/SA the subsequent shot will be much lighter giving the shooter much better follow up shots. As someone who has seen many striker fired shooters slap the trigger when in a timed training exercise, having a consistent 8lb trigger in combination with a longer reset, the shooter tends to jerk the trigger more causings a low left/low right impact. When stress is a factor in any given situation the first shot doesn't mean much if trigger control isn't properly executed. In the case of DA/SA, the shooter only has to deal with the "heavy" trigger pull once, all other shots are short and quick. In a stressful situation I would rather only have to deal with the 10lb trigger once with a short 4lb trigger the rest of the mag. With striker fired handguns you have the same 8/9lb trigger every round, assuming they have stock triggers.

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>>32818304
>Try practicing DA/SA and you'll notice that it's not an issue once you learn it.

That's the reason why people like glawkbabies hate DA/SA: They don't want to the effort in trying to learn it

>>32823051
You're damn right. Fucking strikerbabbies, not even once.

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>>32818255
Not wanting the best of both worlds.

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Not being part of the Walther master race.

>>32823156
>>32823163
Tell me where to find a full-sized one in 9mm and I'll be all over it.

>>32823179
Where do you live?

>>32823209
Colorado. Doesn't look like any stores around here have one outside of maybe special ordering, and pretty much every online store I've looked at is out of stock.

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Fucking strikerbabbies. They think they're hot shit with their gucci ass ZEV triggers but will shit their pants the moment you hand them an M9 crying about how it's unshootable.

I want to punt striker babbies with my steel toe Danners. Fuck strikerbabbies.

>>32822950

>Which is why fighter pilots spill their spaghetti, having to manipulate different knobs, switches and controls under stress, right?

Are you implying they don't?

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>>32823218
Oh. It's still a pretty common gun in Europe.

>>32823274
Are ambi slide releases common over there? I heard the current gen P99s get them but they don't get brought to the US.

>>32823286
No idea. I have the first gen model with right handed slide release only.

>>32823261
>Dont be a crybaby and use something worse than you already using!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUsJSttHHR8