This will be a weird post. That being said, is anyone else pissed

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In my opinion, the only perfect gun on the market is the B&T VP9.
>has 5 rounds
>manually have to eject each spent shell
>integrally suppressed
>9mm
>easy to conceal
>when the magazine is separated from the barrel, it just looks like a bicycle pump.
Are there any other perfect guns?

>>32778522
>why not 6mm?
There are 6mm bullets, or .243 caliber. It's used in a pretty popular hunting round. The US Army did some trials in the 70s with a 6mm round.

Or do you mean literally 6mm on the dot? Like .236 caliber? I think the Chinese use that in their rifle.

>>32778740
Nope, China uses 5.8

>>32778614

I'd rather have a Welrod, honestly.

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>>32778740
Yes I realize I can use things like 6mm, 9mm, or 10mm.
But outside of 9mm para, none of these rounds are what I would consider common or cheap.
I just want to start my own company, make my own toys essentially to satisfy my autism.
>>32778756
Aren't they only good for like 10 shots?

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>>32778522
FN makes a wide assortment of firearms. Ruger does as well, now that I think of it. Beretta does pistols, shotguns, and rifles. I am sure that there are more examples. I expect that you would be will served by doing a bit more research on the subject.

On the subject of measurements, I feel like I could completely ruin your life by giving you a set of digital calipers.

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>>32778806
> I feel like I could completely ruin your life by giving you a set of digital calipers
I swear to god, if I go to hope deport tomorrow morning and my dick doesn't end in a solid number, I'm going to shave it down.

>>32778749
>China uses a 5.8
I'm pretty sure the actual bullet used in the cartridge is .236 caliber. They call it 5.8 [or rather we do, I don't know what the official designation is in China] because 6mm is used to refer to .243 caliber here. 4.85mm British wasn't actually 4.85mm, it was 5mm even.

>>32778522
Systems of measurement are completely arbitrary anyways.

>>32778878

The official designation in Chinese is 5.8x42 弹步枪普通87; DBP87, Dàn Bùqiāng Pŭtòng, 1987.

It's .236in dia

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>>32778888
This is like the equivalent of telling someone that nothing matters.
Nihilism, reeeee

>>32778888
The metre is defined as the distance travelled by light in a vacuum in 1299 792 458 seconds. One second is the time that elapses during 9,192,631,770 (9.192631770 x 10 9 ) cycles of the radiation produced by the transition between two levels of the cesium 133 atom.

How the is that arbitrary?

>>32778960
Not really. Systems of mortality have pretty clear reasons for their rules. Measurement is totally arbitrary.

Why is a meter 1/10,000,000 the distance from the north pole to paris?

Why 1/10,000,000? Why Paris? If they decided it to be 1/20,000,000 would we all be shooting 11.12mm?

Why is a foot a foot? Whose foot? The kings? Why his? Why not the average of all feet?

See what I mean?

>>32779036
Those were made as scientifically precise definitions of the existing meter.

and it's 1/299792458th of a second. Things would get pretty confusing if it meters were 2.4212845475e+14 Miles.

>>32779063
Imperial is retarded. Metric is based on logical increments.

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>>32779063
Yes, but at least they're all arbitrary in the same way.
Calibers are all over the place .338, .22, .454 etc...
5mm 6mm 7mm 8mm 9mm 10mm 11mm 12mm
All of these would be beautiful cartridges.
What would I call my firearms manufacturing /k/?

>>32778799

Yes and no, the rubber disks inside the suppressor that make it so quiet are replaceable quite easily. That said, having to disassemble the suppressor every 10 or so rounds to swap out the rubber disks or face a substantial loss in noise reduction is slightly obnoxious.

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The first thing I would make is the wizard staff
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxOg00iocv0
Would any of you actually buy this, just for the pure shits and giggles?

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>>32779099
>logical increments.
I guess if you use base 10. Like a fag.
>not being neo-sumerian
>not using post metric where meter is 1/12,000,000 distance from North pole to Ur

>>32778522
>There is way too many gun companies that make way too many different types of guns.
>I'm so pissed I'm going to make another gun company to fulfill my needs, thus adding another gun company to the main pool of gun companies I am originally pissed about.
Hmmmmmmm....

>>32779036
Because why that as opposed to the length of x number of carbon atoms strung end to end?

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>>32778806
>>32778839

>>32779206
The length of said atoms would vary, depending on weather, gravity and velocity. Light speed is constant for all observers. Time does not pass at the same speed for everyone. People at the equation travel forward in time faster than people at the poles. We have to use equations and to keep our GPS satellites in check. However, radioactive atoms decay at a known rate. From this, anyone can establish the passage of time locally by watching some Cesium 133 decay.

>>32779181
You read his (autistic) post wrong. Or at least I think you did.

He's not mad that there's too many companies. he's mad that he can't get all the different classes of small-arms from one company (Rifle, DMR, Carbine, subgun, shotgun, pistol, etc)

>>32779326
This man gets it, although I get the point of every one of those weapon systems except for the carbine.
I genuinely don't know the purpose of it.

>>32779402
What's not to get? It's just a rifle with a shorter barrel for a handier profile.

>>32779111
Mason Ammunition Inc.

"The numbers Mason, what do they mean?"

>>32779111
i believe 9mm and 10mm pistol rounds are what they claim to be. mauser "8mm" is actually 7.9 something.

>>32780733
nah 8mm mauser is 8.2mm but it's called 7.92x57

and op is dumb as hell for thinking 5.56 is actually 5.56mm too because it's 5.7mm, they don't name a caliber after the actual bullet diameter all that often

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>>32780970
Then what is it named after?

>>32781563
I think they are named by the diameter, of the rifling lands. So 5.56x45 outer bullet dimension is 5.69, but the rifling lands are 5.56.

Russia for example measures in the opposite, and it's why 7.62x39 bullets are something like .311

>>32780970
Actually they are named by the barrel/bullet diameter depending on how you are measuring it.

>you actually think they just come up with a semi random number? Kill yourself

>>32781605
Just to be sure, is it the inside or the outside of the rifling grooves of the barrel?
Also, which do you guys think I should obsess over, the diameter of the bullet, or the rifling?>>32781622
Do you know if 9mm is measured from the diameter of the bullet or barrel?
I think I'll start there.

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>>32778839

>>32781663
I think you should obsess over something else. Start counting push-ups or something.

>>32778522

You're just autistic

>>32778522
>Why isn't there a company that produces different types of firearms ranging from large to small.

You are hilariously autistic.

>>32779063
>north pole to paris
*North Pole to the Equator.

>>32778522
>it's another episode of "cartridge names aren't calibers"

>>32779099
there are 2 kinds of countries. ones that use the metric system, and ones that went to the moon

>>32779206
because it would also be arbitrary since we use a base 10 counting system, which wouldn't make sense to any other civilization that doesn't count or use digits in a base 10 system

>>32778522
Apart from 9mm luger and .308, most common rounds aren't even caliber they named after.

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>>32784376
I will fix this.
I will make 5-12mm common in the next 10 years.

>>32778522
no real improvement over the 5.7mm / .224" projectile used by the west or the 5.59mm / .220" projectile used by the east

DAILY REMINDER THAT DIFFERENT CARTRIDGES ARE NAMED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE BORES AND LANDS AND GROOVES AND BULLETS AND DIFFERENT MEASURING DOCTRINE

.300 / 5.56 ala 300WM, 300BLK, 5.56x45mm NATO come from the land to land diameter
.308 Winchester comes from the groove to groove diameter
5.7x28 comes from the projectile diameter

They're just dumb numbers, man. You can load and shoot .224 bullets meant for 5.56 in 5.45x39. You can load .309 bullets meant for .308 barrels in 7.62x39 or 54R and it'll stabilize fine and won't overpressure.

>>32778522
>why isn't there a company that makes all the perfect weapons
What is Heckler & Koch

>>32779111
Autism Arms
"Your highly specific firearm needs is our *mumble mumble*"

>>32790009
>perfect
>hecklers and cock

wew lad

>>32779111
Obsessive Compulsive Depot

>>32790129
>>32790249
more of these

>>32778522
5560 micrometre.

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>>32779111
Sperg Shots LLC

>>32782088
Base ten makes a lot of sense, though. I bet any aliens would use it even if they had more or less than 10 fingers.

>>32791629
>Base 10
>Not infinitely superior base 8 or base 16

>>32782040
There are 2 kinds of countries. Ones that spend their money on important things, and ones that went to the moon.

>>32778522
Ask yourself a few questions.
What are you measuring, where from an why.
Are you measuring the bullet? Are you measuring the gun bore, is the bore measured on the lands or the valleys of the rifling, does your size include the tolerances for heat expansion?
Or are you working from the cartridge? Neck or body?
The options go on

>>32782040
NASA uses the metric system now though.

You played yourself.

>>32778522
>I'm so fucking triggered I honestly want to start my own company
If things like this trigger you there is no way you will start your own engineering company.

>>32778799
>But outside of 9mm para, none of these rounds are what I would consider common or cheap.
>I just want to start my own company, make my own toys essentially to satisfy my autism.

No, you want to fabricate your own reality where all the snowflakes and proprietary shit you cook up would be available and cheap. Your autism is blinding you from the fact that you would be creating the situation you're bitching about

>>32791747
Going to the moon was the alibi anon.

>>32791754
>now
That's a pretty important distinction considering NASA is past it's glory days

>>32791754
>>32791926
NASA uses whatever tool is best for a given job, and often uses a combination of imperial and metric measurements.

http://hackaday.com/2017/01/13/whats-so-bad-about-the-imperial-system-anyway/

>Why isn't there a company that produces different types of firearms ranging from large to small.
Ruger?

>>32778960
>This is like the equivalent of telling someone that nothing matters
Life is meaningless, you fucking faggot. It doesn't matter how loud you autistically screech against it, you won't change the truth.

>>32784376
ahem >>32788828