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>tfw the med waiver I've been waiting months for finally got approved

why cant i get the discord to work

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>>32768142
Mine was denied yesterday (again), but the big green willy isn't keeping me down yet.

>sgt calls me, says he's really sorry but it was denied again
>asks if I want to come in, he has a couple ideas
>"it looks like your original sergeant really fucked you over man, this should have been a snap"
>"you have two options, either keep jamming it in here, or I can take you over to the Marine recruiter next door and we can see what he thinks"
>fuck it, it's been over a year now, I just don't want to live at home anymore

>go to Marine recruiter
>explain the problem (literal misdiagnosis, have a note from the original doctor and a half dozen specialists clearing me)
>he laughs and asks why I didn't just go Marines to begin with

Guess I won't be a paratrooper after all.

What marine MOS is the most likely to get me to Afghanistan?

Do Marines even call them 'MOS'?

>>32768185

Works fine for me. Do you have the app installed and updated?

>>32768195
I'm sorry, lad. Serving is still serving at the end of the day isn't it?

>>32768217
no i was running it in the browser. i was in there shitposting for a few minutes then it booted me and now i cant get back on with the invite in the template

>>32768258
You might have to empty your cache or use the app, Discord gets fucked up pretty easily.

>>32768255
It sure is. I just hope we don't have to fight over the South China Sea, fighting chinese sounds a lot less interesting than fighting taliban.

Chances of being give n a slot at SF school after a year at 75th with a maxed pt?

Hey guys, almost out of high school, and I know I want to fix airplanes, with the goal of eventually being a civilian A&P. I've been looking into a school near me to get the necessary certifications, but the cost is pretty damn high. I refuse to take out a loan, so I've been considering the Navy or Air Force, probably Navy. Not to mention the fact that I would almost certainly regret not serving. Anyone here work as a technician for military aircraft? Any recommendations for branch?

Does anyone know what naval intelligence does? Specifically picture analysis?

>>32768409
Also, assuming I can match my previous(expired)ASVAB score of 93, what are the odds of getting my preferred job/assignment/station?

>>32768396

SF isn't a school you ask your unit for, it's a selection that you drop a packet for. If you make it through RASP and are a Ranger in good standing, nobody is going to stand in your way if you want to drop a packet.

>>32768424
With a 93 you qualify for any job, and if there's a slot open you should have no problems getting what you want

>>32768444
Great, thanks. Just hoping I didn't luck out the first time I took the test. Would I have any say in where they put me? Land/Sea?

>>32768460
Well if you join the navy you're gonna have ship duty, otherwise you're gonna stay on land. As an enlistee I don't think you'll be able to choose where they put you right away

>>32768488
I'm looking to just do 4 years and then move on, so would I have multiple posts in those four years or just one?

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Army 35f here what am i in for boys

>>32768539
that's totally up to what happens. If you love the place you get put at first, you could stay there for the four years. You could also pcs if you wanted to make that choice

Recruiter told me to hide a medical problem so I could get through MEPS. Also, I cant get an option 40 if I have a medical waiver.

Anyways, wish me luck boys. I had no other option and it wont stop me from putting out.

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>>32768195
>>32768334
Are you saying you were originally talking to Air Force?
Cause if you were you should stop both of those ideas and go talk to the army recruiter. Not memeing.

>>32768682
>>32768488
Please stfu and stop giving advice

>>32768539
>>32768460
>>32768424
>>32768409
Actual navy vet here. If you want to fix aircraft you wont be on a fucking ship so dont listen to that faggot above me. Most mechanics work on air fields permanently.
Some get attached to air wings and will deploy with their aircraft when said aircraft are attached to a ship.
As far as having a say so its case by case basis. Some jobs let you fill out a dream sheet and some dont.
With that high asvab recruiter is gonna try to push you NUKE
DONT FUCKING GO NUKE

>>32768841
Depeneding on the medical issue, your recruiter is right. If it's not super serious and won't hinder you from doing your job, don't tell MEPS

hows working in intelligence? what do I need for it bros?

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>>32769056
>>32768657
These

>>32769066
>>32769066
Is it possible to be a spy coming from Law Enforcement?

Back in college we had a former general as a professor in aviation, he used to pilot recon planes for the NICA (philippines' CIA[theyre very different]) and basically tutored a bunch of me and my mates since we were interested in enlisting, I specifically told him I wanted to be in NICA, and told me that Army isnt particularly a good choice for it, He suggested to join Law Enforcement, either PNP (philippine national police) or NBI (National Bureau of Investigation) but if I insisted to join the army for NICA, he then told me to go for Military Intelligence for proper transition.

why is this though?

He also said that a facility for languages is lot more valuable for spook work than physical capabilities, and urged us to try to learn Japanese, chinese and russian.

Dont get me wrong though I dont intend or plan to be a james bond type of intelligence work, that shits dangerous, I just want to work intelligence and know shit that the average people wouldnt

>>32768922
I was talking to the army recruiter to begin with. First sergeant I met with didn't want anything to do with me and basically told MEPS I was a wreck, and they're taking his word for it.

>>32769110
Well for one intel work by default requires security clearances so that helps and in the us law enforcement is ex military a lot ive also been told intelligence is how you get a job after the army especially with an alphabet agency cia fbi ect. Dont know shit about actual spies though but at the very least intell lets them know you can be trusted with high level info and you wont have a past

>>32769121
Well marines should be a last resort no matter what.
Try navy and go SEAL?

What I gotta score/do to be the guy that sits inna C130 and presses the BBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT button?

>>32769229
The BRAAAAAAAAAAPPP button?

>>32769155

>dude just be a SEAL

SEALs are born, not made, and I was not born a SEAL. I don't want to wash out and end up scraping paint off an aircraft carrier loading door for five years.

>>32769264
>SEALs are born, not made
This is insanely corny and it actually doesnt mean anything. It also implies i knew you and knew you werent seal quality.
Based off your autism levels ill just say good luck in the marines bud.

>>32769142
would any criminal record disqualify you to become one?

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>>32769264
>SEALs are born, not made
Sounds like laziness and excuses to me.

>>32768195
Did you enlist with airborne in your contract? how were you going to be a paratrooper?

>>32768069
If I had a 504 and tested out of it, meaning it's gone, would I be able to go into the Marines?

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>>32769316
Yeah, I was going for 11b option 4 before they pulled me out of the MEPS line and sent me home.

>>32769284
>>32769299
I don't know guys, maybe it's just 18 months of delay and disappointment getting me down. I'll read up on it.

>>32769288
Almost certainly you can be disqualified just for smoking weed EVER not just currently its mostly just so a foreign government cant blackmail you over any of it

>>32769264
>SEALs are born, not made
Not at all true. Graduating BUD/S is definitely a choice. Sure there are some people who honestly are just born with issues, but any normal person can pass buds with the right mindset

>>32769340
If you were looking at all at Ranger school after option 4, everyone that's ever done BUD/S and ranger school say buds is easier

>>32769340
how would they even figure that shit out?

I also heard that intelligence work mostly involves surveillance and lots of sitting around, is this true? I wont personally mind it though

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>>32769335
Whats option 4 even mean? Sorry in advance for being a tard

>>32769327
please answer lads

>>32769357
It's an additional school you can have added to your contract at MEPS, depending on availability. Option 4 the airborne school.

I'm sure there's more to it but I guess I don't need to know anymore.

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>>32769335
Fucker i didnt mean SEAL was your only option. Just anything besides marines.
Air Focre PJ or CCT could be an option.
Plus NAVY has lots of other physical jobs.
SWCC
Navy Diver
EOD
AIRCREW

>>32769378
>>32769327

I don't think there's any stage of the recruitment process where they look at your schooling before high school. As long as you can pass the ASVAB, you should be fine.

>>32769354
Not that guy already enlisted as 35f senpai

>>32769355
They run full backround checks on you take all your fingerprints multiple times run your name against police and fbi databases any record you have im sure they would find i had to redo my interview for top secret clearance 3 times because my speeding ticket i listed was ammended down to improper parking so they wanted it specifically to say improper parking they also ask about all police encounters you have had including getting pulled over and given a warning

>>32769396
This sounds correct but im not 100%

>>32769354
>everyone that's ever done BUD/S and ranger school say buds is easier
Please provide sources
Ive never heard of all these people claiming this
Not saying youre wrong but i would love to read it for myself.

>>32769386
What do people here have against marines besides the fact that they're all dogfaced morons who get anally penetrated at paris island? I don't really like the cult of personality they try to cultivate, but I don't see a large difference between them and the army.

>>32769408
assuming you have been a good boy all your life without prior records.

is my chacnes good?

>>32769458
Whats your history? Anything other than speeding tickets? Ever smoked weed or any other drug? Ever been out of the country?

>>32769458
You should be fine man, they're not trying to weed out the guys who got a speeding ticket, they're trying to find the ones who are hiding actual crimes.

>>32769396
Same guy just on my phone.

But there's a problem, I still have it as a college freshman and plan on getting it removed within the next 2 years. Am I fucked? I've had it my whole life. It's not like it even helps me. I tested out of it but my mother lobbied the school so I can keep it, so there's no point in having it.

>>32769471
Honestly, no, Im that much of an autist, the only thing that could be considered 'negative' in my record is that I grew up without a dad, and thats pretty much it.

>>32769479
thank you mate!

>>32769491
Me too senpai on the dad thing non issue if your record is really clean and you haven't ever done drugs you will be totally fine if you've been out of the country they will ask about that otherwise you sound good to go

>>32769491
Yeah man honestly don't sweat it. The guy who'll interview you is gonna act all big and tough and try mind games. Mine told me to go wait in the hall to make sure I was a citizen. (I was born in MD, showed him my birth cert and still pulls that). Just say no to drugs and no to crimes and if you don't have a record you'll be fine

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>>32769457
Lots of legitimate reasons. Its not a meme.
-Slow advancement
-Little to no bonuses
-Bad job selection
-Every job they have you can find a better version of in another branch
-Worst quality of life
And for anyone who wants to join marine infantry for the toughness/respect aspect i always say just go army ranger instead.
Its better in every single aspect.
Theres only a single reason I could possibly accept and thats the family heritage angle. I think fucking yourself over simply because its a tradition is dumb but hey thats just me.

>>32769490
At this stage, the best thing you can do is request a copy of your high school and current college diploma and see if there's any reference to it. I just redid my medical prescreening and personal background stuff today, and it never references special ed or anything like that.

If you could get into college, I'm sure you're unretarded enough to do ok on the ASVAB, so don't worry too much.

>>32769518
I appreciate the 'kinda shitty version of the Army' thing, that was my first choice anyway.

Hopefully Mattis does something about the advancements and bonuses.

>>32769568
>Hopefully Mattis does something about the advancements and bonuses.
He probably wont. I forgot it and left it off my list.
The marines take pride in fucking themselves over on purpose. Marine vets in these thread have talked about it how the marines intentionally make things difficult just to piss eachother off. They literally think if theyre miserable it must mean theyre tough.

>>32769512
>>32769515
thanks. best of luck to you two

>>32769660
Thanks you too btw intel analyst (35f) not sure about other 35 series trains at fort hauchuacha (not 100% on spelling) arizona for 16 weeks after 10 weeks of basic training

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>Bust my ass through highschool
>Do well
>Go to college
>No regular schedule
>free to whatever I want
>turn into lazy fuck
>just it around and play videogames I don't enjoy all day instead, wishing I was doing something better with my life

I'm turning into a lazy piece of shit, and I want to join the military to fix it.
>So lazy want's someone else to fix laziness for them
I'm hoping after 4 years of always having something to do, and always having someone on my back to get it done I will build up enough resolve to get what I want done on my own.

Is this a good idea or am I setting myself up for failure?

How difficult is it to get a mid-tier PMC job (like maritime security or some shit) after a few years in infantry?

>>32770052
You'll be fine. Some people have much worse reasons for joining, "acquiring discipline" isn't even a bad motivation.

>>32770463
>Some people have much worse reasons for joining

It's not that I would not sign up if our country actually needed people to go fight.

Right now things are just really calm and it does not seem like the military actually needs people.

>>32770186

Right now? Difficult since your entire infantry career is likely to be doing nothing and a lot of the good security gigs want deployment experience.

>>32770844
What if I hypothetically got deployed, what's the job market like?
I don't want to do spook stuff at Blackwater, by the way, I'm not aiming that high.

My recruiter told me not to put down some minor medical problems(saw a chiropractor and was prescribed anxiety meds when I was 12), so I didn't put those on the sf-86. Turns out I chose a job that requires a TS clearance, can they find out?

Army Aviation reporting in.

>>32771838
Short answer, no.

>>32768069
If a waiver gets denied, is it possible to try again or go to another branch?

I have to go back to MEPS for a medical consultation, and was about to ask this >>32772128 They made it sound like it's the end of the road if the waiver is denied

>>32772067
If its top secret clearence, theres a good chance they will find out.

>>32772170
They would need to fill out comprehensive HIPPA paperwork and cross reference multiple health care providers, just to maybe see if there's something you didn't mention.

Security clearances are about making sure you have no dangerous political connections, no criminal history, and no severe debt you covered up. The military doesn't pry into your medical history unless you have an asthmatic episode on the last day of jump school.

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What are some of the benefits of joining the Marine Corps vs the Army or the Air Force?

From what I'm seeing, the brunt of the benefits is the pride that you're able to call yourself a 'Marine,' but that the branch has little to no room for advancements and doesn't really help you cultivate skills for when you leave the Corps.

Would a recruiter care about any previous college enrollment if I have no credits? Had to leave partway through first year of college due to financial reasons (academia is a jew) and I'm just wondering if this is going to come up at any point beyond paperwork formalities.

>>32769653
They by far have the best culture, though it's mainly a coping mechanism for how shitty their lives are. Bless the marines for providing such entertainment

>>32772307
i had the same issue, they dont really care, just let them know where you went and a reference from the school like your counselor or teacher

I have mild to moderate unilateral hearing loss what are the chances I'm fucked to enlist? I was originally thinking Air Force but I've read they don't issue many waivers so I'm thinking army or navy. Literally any advice appreciated.

would it make me a scumbag if i only wanted to join the military and pass marine bootcamp and serve my 4 years just so i can "say i did it?"

i would obviously take everything seriously and whatnot, but thats really the only reason i want to do it.

>>32772208

see

>>32769518

It's the Marine corps, not the job corps. If you want a POG job, it's the worst branch to consider. You get to jam it in, though.

>>32772398

How bad is it? They do test your hearing at MEPS, you could look up the test and see how you do on your own.

>>32772536
I'm going to my doctor tomorrow to request an audiology exam, I don't think it's too terrible, it doesn't affect my ability to function in any way. Just sometimes if there's a really loud environment I might have to ask you to repeat yourself. I was just wondering because it seems like a lot of people are saying any hearing loss at all is a no go and you'll get PDQ'd immediately.

>>32772438
There are much better things you can do for 4 years just to say you did something that also won't make your life fucking miserable, especially if you're not a complete crayon-eater. Rangers is a good alternative.

>>32772717
You can understand why hearing in loud environments would be important in the military, I'm sure.

All I can say, dude, is if you decide to go ahead and try your luck, consider going for a job that won't place a premium on hearing so you don't put yourself or anyone else at risk.

Good luck at your exam.

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Anybody got material on how to prepare for Jump school, SOPC, SFAS and Q course?

I heard theres an interview a the end of it all. How to mentally prepare for that and aforementioned.

>>32772859
Jump school is supposedly a joke. the prep course and selection are all about physical toughness. The q course is about a year and a half long, and it's more of a "they want you to pass" situation, rather than weeding you out. Just have the mindset that they'll have to kill you before you quit

>>32772790
>There are much better things you can do for 4 years just to say you did something that also won't make your life fucking miserable

thats one reason i want to do it. i know it's gunna suck, but i feel like thats part of the thrill.

>Rangers is a good alternative.
what makes it better than the muhreens?

>>32772960
It's SOF, you get tabbed, more chances to advance or seek out other paths. It also commands a lot of respect. But if you're not serious about it, it's gonna kick your ass and when you wash out, you'll be put at the army's needs, which is no bueno

>>32772960
Honestly get your shit in order if you just want the title. Plenty of people join up for a different pace in life. You aren't the first

Make sure you have a degree before going in. At least in the army you get a better pay if you go in with a college degree

http://www.onlinemilitaryeducation.org/faq/what-rank-do-you-start-out-in-the-military-with-a-college-degree/

You can also really hurt yourself so lift weights to be able to ruck weight and do push ups ( check you joints, specifically your knees and shoulder)

Unless you like bursitis and shoulder tears, workout your back, calves, quads, and posterior chain.

>>32769568
Marines operate on a lower budget as part of the plan. Why, well because they can. Guys like myself were fine being a Lance Coolie 03 when we could have been e4 Specialist. Saves Marines money on payroll. They're not going to change that.
>>32770186
If you have a combat resume it's very possible. Otherwise, meh. Take a look at 13 hours, out of the 5 main characters 3 prior Marine Infantry, 1 was a scout sniper. Then a seal and a ranger.
>>32772208
Our experience is just as good as others, our time in is usually just worse. The only 1 up you'd have is if guy hiring you was a former Marine. We tend to 'look after our own', favoritism if you will.

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>>32768922
>>32769386
Alright man, you've convinced me to slow down for a minute and plan this out. I've called a Navy and Air Force recruiter to explain the situation and see what they can do for me. Air Force special tactics seem very interesting and I already meet most of the physical requirements, so I'll push there first.

>>32773000
im working at getting myself in shape. i still have a way to go, but ive already started. come summer ill be busting my ass from 4am till dark just running, lifting, and the whole 9. this is the first thing ive taken seriously in years, and im not about to let it slip.

how hard would it be to get an 0311 contract?

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>>32773096
>0311
Lmao, its not hard at all to toss your life away

>>32773004
>combat resume
Is army infantry fine? Or do they require experience in specific stuff like sniper school, ranger school or whatever?

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>>32773096
Not very. From what some HS buddies of mine said about Marine contracts: Never sign open contracts, carefully read EVERYTHING, and don't stray from what you want (0311).

The recruiter will bullshit you and say they don't have a particular MOS. Threaten to leave and or back out till they have that particular paper. They can absolutely fuck off if they think you're push over.

>>32773106
>Lmao, its not hard at all to toss your life away

so id take it they always have spots open for cannon fodder?

>>32773124
>Never sign open contracts, carefully read EVERYTHING, and don't stray from what you want

I've been warned about this from a friend thats in the army.

do they have something like a "bracket contract?"

for example, i want 0311, but lets say no slots are open, but 0331 is, can i just have them put me in there? id be happy with any infantry position.

>>32773096
You get what's called an Infantry contract. Shouldn't be too hard. You'll find out your specific Mo's at SOI ITB. Either 0311, 0331, 0341, or 0351. They ask for volunteers for weapons. If you want 0311 you'll probably get it. 75% become 0311's. Stop listening to people who are clueless.

t. Prior 0311
>>32773114
I wasn't an 11b. But if you saw combat same difference I assume. Just know they aren't really seeing action these days.

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>>32772311
>hey by far have the best culture
I agree but again, if you want a tight knit culture just go SOF. Rangers have an edge in every single way.

>>32773055
Are you actually telling me a nigger on this board actually humbled himself and accepted my help???
Good luck dude.

>>32773166
thank you for the help man. one more question.

id be going to PI. anything i should know in advance?

>>32773456
I was a Hollywood Marine (MCRD San Diego). If you go Infantry, boot camp will be the easiest thing you do while in.

All I know is Pi has sand fleas, and the DIs punish you if you swat them. Also Pi is flat, so when you finally have to hike up a hill it usually sucks for them.

>>32773513
>boot camp will be the easiest thing you do while in.

i'd take it once you get into your unit the level of suck goes up exponentially?

>>32768657
Dont go airborne unless you like doing rote maintenance on military equipment and shoveling snow all day.

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>>32773156
You sign an 03XX contract. go to bootcamp, go to SOI. The first few weeks of SOI are the same fore everyone, then they do a split where they select guys for weapons MOS, like mortars or machinegunner. You can sign up for those, or just not sign up for any of them and very likely stay an 0311. Most of the time, the number of people who sign up for weapons outweighs how many slots they have, so if you want to be weapons, you need to look good on paper(pft/cft/rifle range/asvab).

Even still, stuff can happen. I was in in 2010, and didnt sign up for any weapons MOS. on graduation day, when we were getting sent to our units, they took the 10 guys with highest asvab+pft scores and put us in a weapons platoon to crosstrain, so i spent my first year+ and deployment as a mortarman and machinegunner.

>>32773554
Its mostly about the fact that bootcamp is so structured, you are basically on autopilot the whole time. You never have to make even the most basic decisions, because there is always a DI or someone telling you what to do

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>>32773454
Either I humbled myself when I realized you were right, or I'm a little too easily persuaded.

Thanks, though.

Is getting a 4 year degree while in the military a viable option

>>32773950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-GUfYBr8v8

>>32769518
Overall, I agree. But as a Marine in a joint environment w/ civilians, they always trust the Marine to get something done over the others.

As far as POG jobs go, the USMC and the USAF POGs seem to do stuff with army and navy generally being more content to skate on by. That's my experience. Also the navy are a bunch of fat fucks.

>>32773950

Depending on your job, yes.

Got dropped from USMC in boot camp with RE3 close to 7 years ago. History of depression as a kid (we're talking 14 years old). Curious to know about the odds of the local NG taking me in with the obvious requirement of a waiver?

>>32774559
Did the Marines know about your history of depression?

>>32774559
You don't wanna join the Marines with a possibility of depression relapse. Plenty of happy-go-lucky guys jump in and want to kill themselves pretty quick. There's a bunch of stupid going on in the military, and Marines get in in enough trouble to warrant punishing them all the time.

>>32774621
I told them I saw a psychiatrist once and they diagnosed me with depression/anxiety. That's as far as it went and was enough to be considered fraudulent enlistment.

Just got through MEPS, today. It's going to be fun.

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What's military life when you get out of basic training/boot camp and away from deployment? Is it like a regular 9-to-5 job where you're allowed the free time to enjoy the same things you would as a civilian (internet, vidya games, movies, etc.)?

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Why do recruiters feel and act like shady car salesman?

I feel like I'm being lied to and having the truth twisted, like he's trying to sell me something for more than it's worth...

>>32774897
because they have to sell you on joining. it's their job.

>>32774399
Everything you said may be true but it still actually doesnt matter. Everything you said relates to minor fringe benefits and other peoples perceptions.

>>32774897
Make sure you ask friends who have enlisted or have watched videos of people detailing the stuff Recruiters will do. 90% of the time they're alright dudes who will be upfront with you and will work with your goals, but if you're slightly on the cusp of joining and there's just a little something extra they can do, you better believe they'll do it to seal the deal.

They're good dudes, but it IS this job.

>>32773554
Guy you replied too >>32773694 is another guy, probably 2010 guy.

I meant it gets physically harder and more demanding. You're not guaranteed sleep, carry more weight, hike longer, train differently, deployment tempo. It's a whole different thing.

>>32774860
Yes although you make work night shift depending on your MOS and youll get 24 hour staff duty every now and then, plus be on call pretty much 24/7

>>32773004
>13 hours
Weren't they CIA GRS, which is pretty much the best of the best?

>>32775088

>John Krasinski as Jack Silva, newest member of the GRS team and former U.S. Navy SEAL.
>Max Martini as Mark "Oz" Geist, GRS team member and former U.S. Marine.
>Dominic Fumusa as John "Tig" Tiegen, GRS team member and former U.S. Marine.
>Pablo Schreiber as Kris "Tanto" Paronto, GRS team member and former U.S. Army Ranger.
>David Denman as Dave "Boon" Benton, GRS team member and former U.S. Marine, an elite sniper.

>>32775088
From my understanding, CIA SOG/SAD picks from the bottom of teh barrel of seal/ranger/sf, but I might be wrong. I've always thought the military side was much more elite

>>32775331
You couldn't be more backwards son. SAD recruits from all SF CAG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKUPzn5ZC6E

i wanna join the military, but shit like this scares the fuck out of me.

>the moment you're accused shit hits the fan.

so some bitch could just accuse you for any reason, and shit like this happens? obviously if you rape someone or whatever, you should be punished, but the fact that a simple accusation gets you put through the grinder like that is insane.

Is it possible to join with 5 prior charges? all misdemeanors?

What is life like as a US Army Artillery officer?

Is 280 a good APFT score for Army OCS?

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How hard is the asvab? I graduated high school two years ago and don't remember shit.

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>>32775925
>drunk sex is not cool
kek

>>32775925
Don't interact with females in the military.

>>32776886
i don't plan on it. but wtf is this shit?

>>32776072
pls respon

>>32775402
Yeah they recruit from them, but everyone that's able to stay in the military at that level usually stays. I'm certain if there was any "best" unit, it would be delta or devgru, not SOG

>>32776322
Basic arithmetic, word association, reading comprehension, and world knowledge. Hardest part is the mathematics because you don't get a calculator.

My AF recruiter is useless. It's been 6 months and I haven't even gone to MEPS yet.
No other AF recruiter is around me. Closest one is like 40 or 50 minutes away.

What do I do? Try to switch recruiters or just try a different branch?

>>32777164
What job were you looking at?

>>32777426
Something in the tech field.
We haven't gotten that far....

>>32777164
He may have dropped you from his pool. Try to find another recruiter. The Air Force is far and away the hardest branch to get into.

>>32777500
Army's Cyber and MI branches might interest you

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Hey fags, /pol/ack here thinking of enlisting in army or marines, what can you tell me about them? Whats the difference in training? Whi has better weapons? Who is more likely to die? Whats life like in the military? Talking to a recruiter tommorrow

>>32777508
No like we talk every could weeks. But I just keep running into problems with my 'Medical problems'
It's been fucking stupid.

> The Air Force is far and away the hardest branch to get into.
Is it? Why is that?

>>what is life like in the army?
Depends on your job. If you're a killer, than you have a crazy schedule, hump a ruck, and have to learn how to suck it up. If you're a fucking pogue, you can literally end up with a 9 to 5 job.

>>is it pozzed on account of obongo and will that change under Trump?
Obama 100% fucked up our military. It's essentially a liberal arts college in uniform now. Faggotry, feminists, shitskins crying about "muh racism", and Trump won't fix it.

>>did you feel like it was worth it?
No. As an actual fighter, it disgusts me that they think so little of us that they would push females and open faggots in our ranks. FUCK them. Never fighting for this nation again.

>>is military service better than college?
Fuck no. Don't waste your time, as congress has absolutely ZERO respect for you, and senior leaders will throw you under the bus before they'd ever risk their career defending you

This is from a thread I had going on /pol/ is this accurate?

>>32777560
Send him a text or a phone call and show initiative if you haven't already. Recruiters are there to get you to sign, and if they feel like you're just yanking their chain, they'll be likely to drop you. Not saying he HAS, because you're still speaking, but that's always a possibility one faces the longer one drags it out.

As for the Air Force, it's the most intellectually demanding along with the Navy, and since it's such a... "cushy" branch of the military, it's extremely popular. The AF is extremely accommodating to everyday life, more so than any other branch, and that has made it very popular.

>>32777555
Read the thread moron. Its been mentioned above many times.

>>32777555
>Whats the difference in training?
Marines train extensively with rifles. To Marines, competency with the rifle is one of the cornerstones of being a Marine. While the Army trains soldiers, Marines have an almost fanatical devotion to their guns.

>Who has better weapons?
The Army's budget is much bigger than that of the Marine Corps, meaning when it comes time for new toys, they get them first. Marines get them eventually, but the Army always gets the most technologically advanced materials before their Jarhead neighbors.

>Who is more likely to die?
In any branch, especially at a time like this where we're in the process of pulling out of foreign nations, your odds of dying are extremely low. Usually every time an enlisted person dies, it makes the news -- that's how infrequent it is. That said, as a Marine, you're more likely to die.

>Whats life like in the military?
Depends entirely upon the branch. Marines have far and away the worst selection bases, with 29 Palms being an Arizona shit hole that's very hot and very cold. Marines almost like the idea of intentionally making shit worse for themselves because it makes them 'hard.' And they are hard dudes, don't get me wrong, but if your idea of 4-8 years doesn't involve beating the living shit out of yourself then steer clear of the USMC.

>>32777552
Idk I was never really interested in the Army since it's always regarded as the "lowest branch" but at this point I just want in the military.
Was thinking to maybe try the Navy. And then Army/Marines if I can't Navy didn't want me for some reason.

>>32777600
>Send him a text or a phone call and show initiative if you haven't already
I have. I would call him once a week to check my shit, he rarely ever contacted me about anything.
He actually started contacted me recently, but it seems like he wants to almost DQ me.
>Recruiters are there to get you to sign
It sure has never seemed like that.
I saw a Navy recruiter when my AF recruiter was making me mad.
That man, the Navy guy, made me want to join the Navy. He actually felt like he wanted me, where as my AF recruiter feels like he wants to get rid of me.

>>32777765
>Arizona
Fuck I need sleep. California.

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>>32777777
sick get senpai

>>32777777
>"lowest branch"
Nice fucking meme.

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>>32777777
Numbers confirm army is full of pussies. We coast guard now.

>>32777797
>Nice fucking meme.
Is it not?
Sorry for my ignorance.
But usually the idea set among people always seem to be
>Air Force "Smart people with easy jobs. Also Planes."
>Marines "Hardcore and the best"
>Army "Not super smart/Not hardcore like Marines"
>Navy
>Coast Guard
No idea what the consensuses is for those two branches.
I feel like most forget about CC honestly.

Please inform me though.
I only know about AF stuff, I've looked so much into it really, I've ignored all the others really.
I had my heart set on AF, but it seems I may need to change that.

>>32777893
>Marines "Hardcore and the best"
Two words: Army Rangers

>>32777915
Well that goes for every Special Operations doesn't it?
Like Navy Seals?

>>32777956
Correct. My point is that you're trying to label the different branches by who is the most hardcore then you're going to go crazy.

>>32777797
>>32777893
What normies "know":
>Army
Generic soldier.
>Marines
Badass!
>Air Force
Pilot.
>Navy
Boat monkey.
>Coast Guard
Non-military.
>Anything SO
Rambo or Bond.

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>>32777956
Rangers are like SF Lite™
Not SF but not just basic ass inf either

>>32777990
I guess that's fair.
So for the military there isn't any wrong answer? Just depending on what you want?
Admittedly I do want AF/Navy because I hear it's a more comfortable life style.
Also a big (But silly) reason is I heard unlike Marines and Army. You almost always get your own room on base. Which is very appealing to me.

>Air Force
>Pilot
Every time I brought up I was joining the AF to a friend. He always said "You going to fly planes?" I always explained I wasn't going to be a pilot, and that they have many different jobs, like you could even do dental stuff.
And everything time AF was brought up again when I saw him he would say for "Flying planes right?"
Guy isn't the brightest dude I know.

>>32778038
Rangers are, as in those in the regiment, definitely beat out SF. Delta recruits way more heavily from ranger bat than sf group. Officers that just get the tab are probably less high speed than sf, but ranger bat is miles ahead of sf

>>32777997
Marines have the best dress blues by far though.

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>>32778137
Well that's just common sense.

>>32778128
>Delta recruits
Quickest way to make it obvious you have no idea what youre talking about.

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>Born too early to serve during Iraq/Afghanistan
>Born too late to serve during ww3
fucking peacetime reeeeee

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>>32777777
what a waist

>>32778403
You fucked it up.

Curious.

Youngest dude with a CIB/CAR on here?

22.

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>>32777585
>>32777555
You fucking responded to yourself dipshit

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>>32777765
Well guess I'm choosing Marines then. Love and need the abuse. They don't call 'em badass for nothing

>>32778568
You'll come to regret it.

>>32774504
What job would be best? How would you do it? (online classes?) Where would you take the classes and does the GI bill help if you're active duty? Also, what branch?

>>32768657
>stealing my products and putting your name on them
>literally all foxes do is get coffee if theyre in an MI unit
How does it feel to be the most hated intel MOS?
You should have gone 35G or 35N

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>>32777777
Witnessed

>>32778284
>not knowing delta comes to ranger bat and sf units twice a year to recruit for OTC

you have the internet man, how hard is it to type something into google

>>32768069
Does backne/acne actually disqualify you from military service?

>>32774671
>telling the recruiter anything
you dipshit

>>32778797
Thats not the way it works man. It literally isnt.

>>32778826
please use google man
it's literally two clicks away
please stop giving me a headache

>>32778846
I have and have talked to SF guys. That isnt how it works you fucking moron.

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Army, Marines, Nasty Girls, or USMC Reserves.
Best MOSs
Rate them in order of best to worst
Which deploys the most frequently?
Which one will get you laid more?

>>32778858
My pops was in JREG, I've been around delta and other tier 1's for the past four years. It truly is.

>>32778672

Hardcore desk jobs are the best. Computer/Intel/cyber stuff. Go to school online, don't touch the GI Bill.

>>32778871
>My pops was in JREG
How many times have you sucked daddies dick?
Cause it truly isnt
>>32778862
Youre a complete idiot and this question is all the proof anyone needs.

>>32778871

>Tier 1s

You play too much MOH, anon.

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I saw recruiter listed as a job on the armys website.
Are recruiters actually just salesmen?

I always thought (not sure why) there was some requirement like at least serve 4 years to be a recruiter.

>>32778912
Tier 1 is actually what you call the top jsoc groups

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Tossed up between Army and Marines
I know everyone here sees Marines as the worst but what are some pluses to going Marine Infantry vs Army combat-related MOSs?

(also side-note I am also open to suggestion on Reserve/Nasty Girl vs Active. Which is better?)

>>32778911
Are you a vet or current military?

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>>32768069
I realize this is a little off topic, considering it's an enlistment general.

Does anyone have experience with ROTC? I'm considering joining the program at my school. What did you like/dislike? Was it worth the effort? How are ROTC officers perceived by NCOs and enlisted personnel?

Any thoughts or advice are welcome.

>>32778900
>Hardcore desk jobs are the best. Computer/Intel/cyber stuff. Go to school online,
Makes sense
>don't touch the GI Bill.
Why not? That's honestly one of the main reason I'm thinking of enlisting. I can't afford college otherwise rn.

>>32778813
No, but retardation does.

>>32778568
You should listen to this guy>>32778599

>>32779048
Veteran, which person where you?

>>32776322
Do some of the practice tests online. They give you a good idea on what the asvab is like. I used
https://www.4tests.com/asvab
to get an indication on what subjects I was weak on. Don't worry too much about anything that's not Paragraph comprehension, arithmatic reasoning, word knowledge or math knowledge. I got a 93 on the test last december with only a few haphazard hours study but I was already strong in PC and WK, I just brushed up a bit on math.

>>32775925
You don't get thrown in the brig just from an accusation alone, but it does start the whole ridiculous investigation. It's ridiculous, but not surprising because if you're in the military, you're less than human.

Now I want to know what happens if they discover illegal material/activity/weapons in the process of their inquisition of the accused. I would assume they also charge you for everything they find, relating back to being less than human, but I really don't know.

>>32779622
How long did you study for? I'm taking the asvab the first Thursday of next month.

>>32779816
A few hours spread out over the week before the test. By all means study more though. I only studied so little because most of what I was having trouble with on practice tests was high school math I was rusty on.
15-30 minutes of study a day is a pretty easy commitment to not break, and if you do more then better. There are even youtube videos of people solving sample asvab problems if you prefer that.

Is there any hope for me joining if I'm fat and have been seeing a therapist for the past five years? I've been prescribed a few medications over the years but nothing stuck. I know I would need to get in shape but I'm wondering if my mental health background will bar me.

>>32780036
If you tell them,
Absolutely.
You either have to lie or give up hope. No way youll get a waiver right now.

>>32780046
Would they be able to find out if I lied? I don't actually think I have a mental disorder, I've just been kinda lost since my mom died.

>>32779022
You get a warm fuzzy feeling inside

>>32778993
Recruiter is an mos but you can't just sign up for it and just do that, you have to volunteer for it when you reenlist. Obviously it would look bad for all branches if they had people with no experience getting people to join.

>>32778813
It actually CAN, but it has to be fucking bad to the point where you couldn't properly perform your duties.

>>32777555
>>32777585
good job

>>32775165
I thought GRS only recruited from tier 1. So it's a completely different unit than SAD?
Were they PM contractors or gov employees then?
>>32775331
Isn't it the opposite? SAD is seen as the place where CAG guys go when their knees start giving out.

>>32780718
Oh son. What is this tier 1 shit? Infantry marines, seals, rangers are tier death. This isn't a god damn video game.

>>32780761
>What is this tier 1 shit
An actual term used by JSOC units
>son
Cringe

>>32780769
>Using tier as a dumb civilian
Cringe

You either or or you aren't. You ain't.

>>32780783
>heh, nothing personnel, civilian
End yourself, you're obviously some bitter POG fuck

>>32780789
>Civilian calls a former Infantryman a pog on a Futanari dating website

You are a pog. Actually you're a noserve. Go on with your bad self, I'm sure you're impressing people.

>>32780802
>former Infantryman
Is this supposed to be impressive and give you the required authority to say stupid LARP-tier bullshit like "you either are or you aren't"?
Wait, you're just baiting aren't you

>>32780807
You clearly don't have a father. Post a picture of your mom.

I'll tuck you in.

>>32779109

You can use the GI Bill while you're in, but you get WAY more out of it if you wait until after the military.

>>32774984
Yup. As far as comforts and money invested in your career, USAF is the way to go for technical jobs of all kinds. That or the Navy.
For management, the USMC can be good at developing leadership side of things but so can other branches if you seek it. USMC just forces it on you for better or worse.

In the end, I'm glad I joined the Marines. But it is very fucking stupid.

I come to MEG to give advice to people who are looking for it, but it gets so annoying when every other person is asking about
>navy seals
>army ranger
>special forces
WILDCARD
>MARSOC

99% of you do not qualify/will wash out of these

>>32781428
and what are your credentials m'gentleman

>>32781469
11x option 40 who changed to 18x in basic
Got to student company during summer hold (no SOPC/SFAS classes in summertime)
Was getting smoked for weeks, got hurt waiting for the next class
Voluntarily withdrew from the course
Got reclassed out of 11b
92y(unit supply) for a line company at 10th Special Forces Group


I've seen what it takes to get selected for rangers and for SF. That shit is hard and takes a special person.

>>32781493
wow dude, you got REKT. feel bad for you just reading that shit

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>>32781493
>11b
>18x
>back to 11b
>finally wind up as a fucking 92y
bullets dont fly without supply

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Ausfag here, don't frequent /k/ often (noguns) but recommended to enlistment generals for advice.

In a bit of a crossroad.
> I'm 25
> failed out of uni at about 19, because young/immature/ didn't know what I wanted.
> work a manual labor job for a few years, while working on other skills/jobs
> end up instructing open water scuba as a side job, reached technical diving level on technical re-breathers (CCRs) as well as a Master Diver rating (it sounds fancy, but is pretty straightforward to achieve)
> Got my skydiving license with about 100 or so jumps
> Progressing towards a private pilot's license which I plan to obtain middle of this year.
> Have roughly 6 years experience as a volunteer firefighter also trained in search and rescue (mainly hikers)


I have ambitions to return to university, now that I feel a bit more mature, but would like enlist during my studies (even on a part time basis or "choco") or to see if I like it as a career path, at least having the finances to support my studies.
I don't shy away from hard work and have developed a strong and reliable work ethic which I can take pride in and enjoy learning, especially technical based aptitudes.

I looked at all the jobs the defense force had on offer and narrowed down a select few (about 7) I found interesting.

I initially wanted to go for Clearance Diver but they aren't recruiting (I was suggested to go Commando then transfer since they had some sort of training overlap, I also had a few friends give positive feedback on their experience)
But I also have ambitions to work towards rotary wing once I get my flying license, so army helicopter pilot looks mighty tempting, but I'm afraid I wont be accepted without a degree.


All advice is welcome, but what would Aussie /k/ suggest in regards to a career path I could look into? and your personal experiences?


Many thanks in advance for your insights.

>>32781585
dunno bout schwarzenegger country but i was a rotary wing guy in the US army without a degree. Sounds like you have plenty of skills, you could definitely stay on the dive path and start doing underwater welding, those guys make 6 figures.

>>32781593
>>32781593
>aus as in australia not austria
welp

Finally passed my Assessment day, just need to pass the fitness test to go to kapooka. Keen as a bean.

>>32781643
another ausfag here, what job did you apply for? asking because i plan on going rifleman but heard the waiting time between enlisting and kapooka was fucked

>>32781585
>But I also have ambitions to work towards rotary wing once I get my flying license, so army helicopter pilot looks mighty tempting, but I'm afraid I wont be accepted without a degree.

I'm not too sure about this subject, but as a pilot u do need additional interviews. First step is to nail the testing at your You Session. If you're dumb as fuck, you won't even be given an option of choosing pilot.

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>>32781593

Thanks for your input.
>dive path and start doing underwater welding, those guys make 6 figures

Indeed, they do make a lot of money, I've networked and befriended many of them during my diving and most say the investment of commercial diving really paid off for them. Despite the horror stories, you can make 300k on oilrigs, like any dangerous job it does come with risks.

I was actually offered to do something similar and help with the building and maintenance of shark nets here during the summer months, it paid well but I wasn't 'qualified' in an insurance sense. Unfortunately training, especially the commercial end is a bit costly.

>I was a rotary wing guy in the US army without a degree

Despite being from a different country I find this encouraging. Please do tell me about your time in rotary wing, what challenges did you enjoy?

I've heard from my instructors that helicopter pilots find more employment than General Aviation folk.

>>32781650

I applied as rifleman. Not sure about the waiting time between enlistment and kapooka tho. I have a friend who did it mid last year as rifleman and it was pretty fast for him.

>>32781675
ah cool thanks mate
how was the you session and assessments?

>>32781673
Maverick can't hover. Being in a helicopter gives you so many more options, you just can't go as fast. I can guarantee you the fast movers we worked with didn't see a quarter of the shit we did at 500ft and 70 knots. I'd say my favorite bit was working with multiple assets in huge stacks on big spooky missions. We would escort MH47s and then provide support to the ground guys but also interact with everyone in the stack, so you're talking sometimes 15 different aircraft all the way up to 20 or 30 thousand feet, AC130s, F16s, A10s, B1s, multiple UAS, AH6s, all kinds of crazy shit going on. It was hectic but definitely interesting.

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>>32781652
>First step is to nail the testing at your You Session. If you're dumb as fuck, you won't even be given an option of choosing pilot.

This will probably be my course of focus at this point, I'll look into what type of aptitude testing I'm likely to come across for some practice (hopefully)

My problem is that its been a while since I;ve left highschool, I've only completed general mathematics (which they don't recognize) but I've taken initiative and completed a bridging course.

Im hoping that "Prior flying experience is not mandatory but is desirable" would get a foot in, but ill see.

I'll focus on the YOU session for now.
Have you got any advice?

>>32769264
Eh maybe. My roommate in college knew he always wanted to be a seal, started training for it at age 15. Like, legitimately started training for it. He gets his trident sometime this summer I believe.

>>32778128
SF here
You're comparing apples to oranges, and I definitely wouldn't say that Rangers beat us. Where SF is miles ahead of Ranger bat is our freedom of movement in nearly every aspect of what we do. An ODA can virtually control and dictate everything we want to do. It's like playing chess where all your pieces, though there might only be 12 of them, are all kings and queens. Not pawns.

There is a reason you see a lot of ex ranger bat guys at group but never hear of a long tabber going to ranger bat.

>>32781694

You session was a breeze.
Assessment day, a tip is to nail the psych test. If you nail that they'll recommend you over to the Interview and it should be smooth sailing. Don't admit to stupid shit like self harm and all that.

>>32769340
>Tfw said I hadn't done drugs when applied for ROTC 4 years ago (was true at the time)
>now I've done weed, NBOMe, LSA, Vyvanse, and DXM
>Didn't particularly like any of it, I'm just a very curious person and am fascinated by altered state of minds
>commissioned in Navy now
>terrified that one day I'm gonna get polygraphed, and fail and get kicked out of the Navy

>>32781729
whats your job? why would you get polyed?

>>32781701
>This will probably be my course of focus at this point, I'll look into what type of aptitude testing I'm likely to come across for some practice (hopefully)


I've taken a look at the page on defence jobs. (http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/army/jobs/AviationCorpsOfficerSSOPilot/).

Looks like you have to go in as either an SSO or GSO. Meaning you have to go in as an officer.

You will need passes in Y12 English and Math + 2 other subjects. On top of that they need you to have passed Yr 10 or above Science.

Having a commercial pilot licence apparently lets u skip the Yr 10 science thing.

The You session is super chill, it's not a formal interview. Just be the perfect person medically, no records of self harm, no depression, no nothing. That'll get you through a lot quicker. You'll talk to a "career advisor" or some shit. They might be able to give you more info. You can explain your shit to them, they might be able to offer different jobs or paths for you to take.


And dont fuck up that aptitutde test thing. It's pretty basic shit, like those internet IQ tests. Pretty easy, i think there was 70 questions, i finished like 60+. Then theres a harder one with random math on it. I fucked that one up but still ended up being eligible for pilot. It's your assessment day that's important. Also consider pilot maybe in airforce or navy? Can bring that up at You session. would be better if u searched that up urself first tho.

>>32769264
idk why people are giving you shit. You're right. Not everyone can be a SEAL. lots of people have tried and failed.

>>32781783
Thanks for your advice!

You pretty much answered 2 questions I was going to ask.

>Depression.
I was diagnosed about 4 years ago, but that was back when I was unemployed struggling to find work.

Would they dig it out? should I just play it cool and brush it off? Outright not mention it at all? It was bad but wasn't suicidal bad, sort of "lack of purpose" "stagnation" related depression.

>>32781828
>Would they dig it out? should I just play it cool and brush it off? Outright not mention it at all? It was bad but wasn't suicidal bad, sort of "lack of purpose" "stagnation" related depression.

They wanna know if you're gonna shoot urself in the head. fuck no don't tell them anything. Don't even downplay anything. If you deny everything, they won't dig it out. Say you've never seen a psychiatrist or a councillor, you've never had depression, you've never had suicidal thoughts. If you do admit to things like this, it'll either slow your recruitment process by months or years or they might just deny u straight up. Some people who have drug problems won't be allowed in for a few years even if they've claimed to be sober for years. Just the fact that they admitted to it pushed them back.

Got my med evaluation about 2 weeks from now for the national guard. I have light asthma but didn't put it down since it never affects me outside of exercise and I've never had a serious attack (just wheezing and shortness of breath). What should I tell them? Don't wanna be DQed. Have an inhaler but only used it a couple times and haven't renewed in years.

>>32781867
>never effects me outside of exercise
you do realize that the military does PT right? even the guard. how are you gonna hide it then?

>>32781899
Light enough that I think I can hide it. It might not even be asthma, just allergies, never had a formal test. I just wheeze during exercise on occasion.

>>32781935
bro you'll do a 16k roadmarch with full kit in bct. think you can handle that?

>>32781947
What's the pace? I've been backpacking multiple times in mountainous terrain going at a relatively fast pace.

>>32781963
walking with full gear

>>32781983
>Walking
Endurance isn't a problem. Only triggered by short, intense bursts which I'm sure there will be but since it's never been anything dangerous I think I can ignore it. So, just don't tell em shit?

>>32781752
Pilot, so I don't know why I would. If I end up flying P-8s, no idea if they polly.

>>32777555
Enlist in the Air Force. Daily life in the army is wake up, do PT, eat chow, mopo maint / layouts / cleaning, go home, cry.

>>32782296
eh I was a pilot in the army, never had a poly but i didnt have TS either. Pretty sure it's just for TS-SCI that they poly.

>>32781505
It reads shitty on paper, but 92y at a SF unit is a great job. You deal with great dudes, tons of money, and a lot of freedom.
>4 day weekends once a month
>6 month deployments
> barley wear a uniform
>first name basis with e5-e7's as an E3
>>32781514
I'd rather be 92y than an 11b in fort bliss whoa never going to deploy

>>32781714
Are you the delta I've seen posting in here before?

>>32782461
4 day weekends once a month was a division standard at my last post bud.

so my recruiter told me i can be a seal and a ranger if i signed up right there in the office.

Did i fuck up?

>>32782541
I wouldn't worry about it.

I'm a nuke and I sign for subs, is there any more memes that I can get

>>32782798
you could be a legitimate fag too

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Thoughts on Navy? I want something safer since I can't choose my MOS as an O-1.

>>32782868
.....so join another branch?

>>32782925
That's what I'm asking. What are your thoughts on the Navy?

>>32782936
what fucking service branch doesnt let you choose your job?

How hard is it to become a DM in an infantry squad?

How do I ensure I do well during shooting classes? Any tips?

>>32782541
Geez

>>32781714
You're right about freedom. But in terms of raw endurance needed to pass the course, I'd see ranger, as in rs and rasp, harder to pass than sf. That's coming from word of someone who passed the q course and rasp in 1980s though, so I don't know if it's changed at all

I just signed up as a 35M, shipping out in march. How fucked am I?

>>32782510
And where were you? Because that's not a common practice in "Big Army"

>>32782958
Are you in the army?
>n-no...
Shut up and worry about it once you've been in the army for a while.

>>32783506
My second question is still relevant, though

>>32783526
I would watch a shit ton of those super dork ex army YouTube videos on how to shoot and also befriend some people at your local shooting range.

>>32783498
kek 1ID my man.

>>32782868
>>32782936
Are you going to be an officer youre saying?
Youll most likely be a SWO.

>>32783603
I'm literally in Germany. So there's also that.

>>32783498
3ID did that

>>32782296
Yes

>>32776322
Brush up on factoring, that's about the hardest math you'll be doing. I am almost 20 and haven't set foot in a learning establishment in over a year and I got a 91.

The entire test is multiple choice. If you can't get something, just narrow it down to your two most likely answers and try to reason your way through each one.

Seriously, the hardest math you will be doing is factoring and that's like high school senior level math.

IIRC it's shit like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BGAOjZzeCI

>>32769457
Insane Jar heads that snap and lose their shit at the sound of the neighbours car door closing thinking ISIS is outside only to beat their wives because they were in between him and his weapon?

Nothing other than that per say

They are like the 1,000 Thespians(or Thebians?) at Thermopalye. "They do their part".

>>32783675
whats your point? that theres a brigade in germany?

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>>32783885
>1,000 Thespians

How FUCKING RIPPED do you have to be to actually pass Ranger school or any of the programs that everyone recommends here instead of marines?

>>32783498
173rd currently is doing that cause optempo

>>32784169
Not ripped at all.
Ranger School pretty much just be able to max a PT test(so when they only count half your push-ups you don't fail), run 5 miles in 40 minutes and a 12 mile ruck in 3 hours then literally just put up with gayness for 3 months. Right before Florida they gave us a pt test just to see how fucked up we were and I think 3 guys out of our class passed push-ups.

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>>32782541
You're doomed.

>>32782541
Only if you didn't make him stand at parade rest right after you signed.

i swear im not shilling here but i thought i'd ask anyway. So i did fuck up one of my discs skiing one day. There is no record of it as I was in europe at that time. Let's say i wanted to go airforce or army, is that the end of the road for any combat related mos?

>>32784421
IS it still fucked up? If its healed youre fine who cares.

>>32784552
well you cant unherniate a disc if that's what you are asking but otherwise in 4 years since it happened it hurt maybe 2-3 times.

>>32784169
If you want to be ripped by army standards you're better off being a skeleton. If you want to actually be strong better start lifting.

>>32784577
Well then theyll never know unless you say something. If youre strong enough go for it.

>>32784169
Exactly what the others guys said. It would actually hurt you to be really buff, seeing as it's mostly running and endurance hiking or rucking. Start running man, they say that if you can max a pt, there's like 80% chance of passing rs

Anyone here do ROTC? Is it worth it or just a meme?

salty ass 11b thats 2 weeks from getting out of afghanistan here

will answer anything

>>32784900
Do you recommend any specific blowjob technique for getting deployed there?

>>32782949
Any branch where you enter as an Officer. O-1s and up aren't guaranteed their MOS -- they're literally put where they are needed most.

>>32785046
personally i like a lot of hand action with my blowjobs

>>32784900
Do you recommend it? Also why?

>>32785068
For real though, I'm not in the military but from what I've read (from shitposts on /k/) its hard as heck to get into afghanistan, so how does one manage to do it? Just luck?

>>32785065
Not really true. You can compete for different jobs in ROTC and the service academies, and OCS/OTS (depending on branch) you know what your job is before you sign any papers.

>>32785081
yes i love the infantry, if i could have it any other way i'd have gone directly from OSUT to RASP but the gods were not in my favor. contemplating dropping a RASP packet or just sticking the route till i drop an SFAS packet. i love the job so god damn much there is too much to say.

>>32785084
not true, just get in the fuckin army. i have buddies in 1st Armored that are relieving my unit in about a week and i have buddies in the 82nd relieving some unit in july. we deploying as fuuck. plus my unit is looking at an iraq deployment in may of 2018

>>32785108
I was always told those were kind of like a "wish list" of what you'd like to do. But if I can actually choose my MOS as an Officer, that's even better.

>>32785196
Don't get me wrong, if you have signed an obligation and the service for some reason needs 100% of one job, you will go to that job even as number 1 graduate of whatever officer program you're in. However this is generally not the case. For something like USAF it is the top 1/3 to 1/2 of graduates can go pilot if they want it depending on needs. Right now it is a great time to try becoming a pilot because the service is so undermanned that they'll probably take most applicants from ROTC and definitely from the academy.

>>32785065
And this is how i know you never served

>>32781867
Can I get any other opinions on this? Anything specific I should do to prepare?

Thought about joining the german military for 4 years once I have finished HS and go for one these:
AF repairman for Tornado engines (Fluggerätmechanikerunteroffizier Tornado Fachrichtung Triebwerk) OR-5

AF avionics maintenance (Luftfahrzeug Elektronikinstandsetzungsunteroffizier Werft) OR-5

AF communications sergeant for our Patriot SAMs (Netzwerkadministrationsunteroffizier Flugabwehrrakete) OR-5

radio operator (Elektronischer Kampfführungsunteroffizier) OR-5

electronic warfare sergeant (Elektronischer Kampfführungsfeldwebel) OR-6

paramedic (Notfallsanitäter) OR-6

(I have given the NATO ranks because our slightly retarded NCO system.)
Any advise /k/ can give on these jobs?

Is there a proper way to wipe in the military?
I use a lot of toilet paper.

>>32785780
If you've done extended exercises, like in sports, and it hasn't bothered you, then you should be okay. They do however listen to you breath, so if it's noticeable, you might be asked about it

>>32786353
Do they have you do a run and then check breathing? Or is it just in a room? AFAIK my breathing is 100% normal without exercising (which makes me think it could actually just be allergies or something)

>>32786517
Nope no running. They make you do like stretching and a little lunging, but no running. If you're not sure it's asthma, don't say asthma if asked. that's a red flag

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Hey guys , I'm joining with the US Army soon. Got a 98 on the PICAT when I took it at the recruiters office and then 95 when I took the ASVAB at MEPS.

Originally I wanted to be a 68W but some stuff on my record probably won't allow to do that. But besides that I was able to get some artillery MOS's too. While I thought it'd be awesome being a crewman on a gun lobbing shells downrange, what really caught my attention was 13F, Fire Support Specialist, the guys calling in the rounds.

I was just wondering if anyone knew about or even did this MOS. I'm like 99% sure I'm gonna go with this. Any advice or guidance would be awesome.

>>32786838
join the discord, there's a former 13F in there

>>32786937
it says invite invalid or expired?

>>32787171
try downloading discord if you haven't. other than that, maybe restart pc? good luck

>>32784900
What are you salty about

My AF commission finally came through.

To anyone wanting to apply for a rated or non-rated board, do it asap, even if you're only considering it. This shit took thirteen months from start to finish for me and I'm still having to wait for an OTS date.

>>32768069
should I be doin pullups?

>>32788760
>>32788760

Do POG's have the same boot camp as grunts?

>>32785593
Duh, that's why I'm asking.

>>32788860
not in the army or marines