>Just laughing at all those AK vs. AR debates on /k/, when

>>32764708
wtf is that ugly lookin thing

>>32764708
>tfw American
>can't afford a $10,000 gun

Also, these are banned by name in Maryland. kek

>>32764708
>when the answer is just so simple
Yeah, and expensive as fuck

>>32764708
Would own one if they weren't stupid fucking expensive in the US.

>>32764733
Disregard the dudes autism in the video, his build is pretty nuts though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdqzemxJyA8

>Just laughing at all those AK vs. AR debates on /k/, when the answer is just so simple
>sig 550

but that's not a roller delayed 5.56, anon

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>>32764708

I agree, OP.

>>32764708
>Sig 550

topkek
it doesnt even have a chrome-lined barrel even AK and AR do have that

>>32764778
>"pretty nuts"
>uses duct tape on the handguard

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>>32764708
>9.04 lbs empty

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>>32764800
This
>mfw AK vs AR ""mudtests""
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzlYUcfqG08

What's up with all the shilling for the 550 lately?

>>32764708
>Heavy as fuck for a gun in its category
>Not all that more accurate than a basic bitch AR with the same barrel length, a higher-tier AR blows it out of the water
I like the Sig, it's a neat rifle and it looks great, but when it's main claim to fame can be beaten by the competition than it's not that great of a gun.

>>32764894
Why was the Cetme-L considered a failure again?

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>>32764877
start working out. survival is for the fittest anyway
>>32764800
Delayed roller blowback has a low service life. it needs to be replaced very quickly because of the wear

>>32764938
The SIG combines the accuracy of an AR with the durability of an AK in a very reliably package. Its all about giving you the best of both worlds

>>32764981
Shit tier QC

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>>32764708
>Swisscheisse
Pass

>>32765061
>Delayed roller blowback has a low service life. it needs to be replaced very quickly because of the wear
Thank you.
>WELL WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN YOUR OPERATION CYCLE?
>CRASHING THIS HEADSPACE
>WITH NO SURVIVORS

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>>32764733
>can't afford a $10,000 gun
That's why I bought this, closest I'll get.

>>32764708

that's certainly not an AR-18

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>>32765151

my nigga.

>>32764991
It's like a smelly, old AK-47 raped an FNC and she shit this out 9 months later.

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>>32765151
>He is a man of wealth and taste

>>32764991
God damn the ACE is so fucking ugly, why does it look so horrible?

>>32765318
>>32765348
It's not here to win a beauty pageant, princess. It's here to never, ever, ever fucking jam.

>>32765478
Outside of the rail, tell me one thing it does better than a galil AR

>>32765529
It's sealed, so it won't fail if submerged in sand or mud.

>>32765061
>start working out

What a shitty fucking excuse. That extra weight doesn't contribute to anything. It just makes the gun worse to carry and worse to shoot. Why don't we all just strap iron weights to our guns because "survival of the fittest"?

>>32765748
Survival of the liftest. Why even carry ammo when we could just carry around 20 pound hand cannons and beat each other with them.

>>32765061
>start working out
t. Man who has never had to carry a rifle for hours or even days at a time

>>32764708
>>32764991
>AKs in fancy plastic
I'll pass.

>>32765866
Fancy plastic does a fine job of keeping shit out without increasing weight dramatically.

>>32765816
different anon, have carried assault rifle for days at a time, still saying that weight is a problem you can solve by working out, a 100-200g difference isn't going to affect how much ammo a soldier can carry or how far he can travel, a regular grunt doesn't walk enough in a day for the extra weight to be an issue (POGs walk even less), and those who *do* need to shave every gram off of their kit won't be using standard-issue rifles anyway.

>>32765910
Works even better when it's put around a design that wasn't made for untrained illiterate farmers.

JDI enterprises or whatever it is plans on importing Sigs soon

They are already working on a 308 pistol version

>>32764778
>Autistic Asian man builds a better rifle than the INSAS program

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>>32764708
>yet another 5.56 assault rifle
wow, it's completely different from the other 9000 5.56 assault rifles

>>32764778
>autistic

I don't see it, though it he is awkward and weebish.

>>32765977
>100-200g

We're not talking about 200g, we're talking about 900g.

Good AR builds are 6lbs 6oz +/-2oz empty.

>>32766133
>>yet another

That's the SIG550.

I think you're on the wrong board.

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>>32764708
nigga pls

>>32766194
A 6lb AR build is too fragile and cant take the beating a SIG550 can because it is made out of the strongest metals known.

>>32764981
>>32765082
Bad-for-stupid-reasons ergonomics played a part as well

>>32766194
>Good AR builds are 6lbs 6oz +/-2oz empty.
>comparing a standar assault rifle to a custom AR
how about we compare standard SG 550 to standard M16, seeing as comparing it to M4 would be unfair? ~500g difference, could become significant under certain circumstances but can still be dealt with through work-outs

>>32764708
I would get it if it weren't so expensive.

>>32766194
>>32766309
not to mention that AR -platform is one of the lighter rifles, compare SG 550 to Galil or Rk 95TP and the difference isn't even worth mentioning, Swiss, Finns and Kikes don't have problems with their 9 pound raifus, so why do American keyboard warriors?

>>32766048
I don't think it does. This just makes the guns go from simply idiot proof to entirely retard proof.

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>>32766387
>Swiss, Finns and Kikes don't have problems with their 9 pound raifus

I fucking hate this mentality.

If something can be made better people like you respond with

>But it's fine the way it is!
>You just need to work out more!

Instead of actually striving to make something better you respond with cries of mediocracy.

>>32766435
>If something can be made better people like you respond with
>>But it's fine the way it is!
>>You just need to work out more!
>Instead of actually striving to make something better you respond with cries of mediocracy.
only this discussion wasn't me responding to someone saying SG 550 could be made better, it was me once again responding to someone basically saying "rifle X is shit because it weights 9 pounds hurrdurr muh AR..."

>>32764708
That's not a fncal.

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>>32764981
Bad ergonomics and poor QC. The CETME L prototypes (Later known as the Early Model) in the trials were different than the production CETME Ls (aka Later Model). The Prototypes and Early Models were superior in quality and had better ergonomics in terms of sight picture and better field of view compared to the cost saving methods that the Spanish factory did with the Late Model, such as changing the HK style drum sights into aperture flip ups (Like the Model C) that looks like staring at a hole in the wall. Pic related.

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>>32764991
>>32765318
>>32765866
>>32765910
>>32766048
>>32766421
To be honest, you don't need the plastic. The ACE is basically a Galil with an FNC/Ak5 style dust cover with a plastic "lower" that can be removed. Pic related, she's compatible with OG Galil parts. The OG handguard their is being held by the ACE handguard retainer.

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>>32766254
Is this thing feed with refugee semen ?

Did you used it as an anal dildo ? I see some brown traces on the barrel.

>>32766254
>Literally an FNC for winter warfare

>>32766435
>striving to make something better

Make something better for your obesity you fatass nigger

>>32767140
Is that a spring loaded dust cover that pops back up whenever the charging handle is forward?

>>32765061
>Delayed roller blowback has a low service life.
confirmed idiot

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HK33 is the right answer.

>>32766230
So you're saying it isn't chambered in 5.56? Or are you just that retarded?

>>32764733
>trump rescinds import ban
>mfw when i finally get a 550 and 510

>>32767330
Why has every military on earth turned to gas operated rifles nowadays? I've heard they're dirty, but the action is forceful enough not to matter, and they're ammo sensitive but militaries use standard ammo anyways. They're simple, accurate, cheap and reliable. So what's the problem?

>>32767515
Self destructing headspace is a logistics nightmare.

>>32767596
Is that an impossible problem to fix?

>>32767775
As in repair? No, just needs work every 5k rounds or so. After a few of those you'll need to replace a few parts. No big deal unless you have a few million of these guns being fired a lot every single day.
As in solve the problem without requiring additional maintenance and supplies? Switch to a gas system like every single sensible military on the planet.

>>32764708
swiss shit that actually lives up to the meme of '5.56 being designed not to kill'?
the thing is tuned for their ball, and their ball is literally designed not to fragment and be as non-lethal as 5.56 possibly could be while still using metal in the bullet.

>>32764755
More like would own one if they were still being made.

>>32769156
>the thing is tuned for their ball, and their ball is literally designed not to fragment and be as non-lethal as 5.56 possibly could be while still using metal in the bullet.

Sure. Thats why the SIG550 has a higher muzzle velocity than most other 5.56 assault rifles.

>>32769401
effective terminal ballistics are inhuman according to the swiss. muzzle velocity doesn't mean anything if the bullet just ice picks.

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>>32764828
it does have cold hammer forged barrel master race

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>>32764877
patrol version is 7.3 lbs empty

>>32764828
It's probably because the fucking swiss spend more on their ammo then they do their guns. Seriously their 5.56 is match grade.

>Let's make an AK as accurately as humanely possible

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>All of these faggots being this wrong

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>>32769643
an airshit FAL?

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>>32764708

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>>32769681

The SA58 is a pretty dope FAL variant though

>>32769695
Did they really fucking come out with a MTAR variant for the M203?
Just give the guy a normal tavor and strap a M203 on it ffs. Shit looks stupis as fuck and now your barrel isn't free floated

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>>32769709
yuck, not even going to "rifle is fine!" but that is not even attractive to me in the slightest. the original looks soooooo much more aesthetic

>>32769740

It isn't about looking prettier, it's way lighter, with a folding stock, longer range full auto .308

Only drawback is that it has a stronger recoil than a standard FAL

>>32769804
not at 10" you goon

>>32769711
Tavor accuracy is already shit. At least with an M203 hanging off the barrel, they have a plausible excuse.

>>32765307

>buying a scar in 5.56 when the scar h exists

also is she just really tiny because that gun is fucking enormous compared to her

>>32764778
Would have been cooler to get a SIG 556 and get a Canucki to get you the 20in barrel, gas stystem, handgaurd and stock needed?

The barrel isnt entirely legal to bring in the country because ATF a shit, but the rest of the parts I mentioned are OK to take across the border.

>>32766133
b-but its s-swiss

>>32769917
Well, much like "Don't Hug Me I'm Scared", they did stop making them, so there is that.

>>32769912
US Sig 556's use stanag magazines while the non US ones don't. If you wanted to make a full replica, you'd need the lower and some of those sexy Swiss army mags.

HK sells a stanag magazine that looks pretty similar but not exactly the same color, and holds 30 instead of 20 (not really a downside to me). I read they even work in SCAR's which are notoriously picky.

>>32769987
Well, the SIG lower is a non FFL item, but since I know that the ATF is a faggot about the barrels, I highly doubt they'll let that go across the border either.

Gonna have to Juan that shit somewhere in the car.
>shit, might as well Juan an entire 550 across.

>>32770023
You can buy the swiss lowers online so I'd avoid the smuggling there. I looked for barrels but I couldn't find any, so maybe that one would need to be smuggled.

get a horsecock dildo over 20in in length and then stash the barrel inside.

>>32770035
>>32770023
You guys are autistic, get a barrel blank, have a well known gunsmith make you your 20in barrel so you can have your anime girl raifu without getting sent to pound me in the ass prison.

>>32764708
>tfw American
>tfw can afford a $10,000 gun

I love my 550, its the best gun ever. I just wish finding the issue optics for it wasn't as hard to find as a gun loving Clinton.

>>32764828
Military rifles get a barrel change every 10000 rounds. Only poorfag countries have to resort to inaccurate chrome lined barrel to extend service life of their cheap rifles.

>>32766435
M4: poorfag gun made from aluminum and pot metal, and assembled by unskilled spics and hillbillies
550: master race gun forged by dwarves from steel, orichalcum and mithrill

>>32769156
The gun isnt limited to swiss loaded military ammo. It can use any in spec 5.56

>>32767238
Yes. This video has plenty of shots showing how the dust cover works. And yes I know, aregularguy isn't as liked but just bear with it as an example
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFMWZqV9I4A

>>32769987
But there are plenty of SG550 mags that hold 30 rounds tho, they're more expensive than a 20 rounder but they're definitely not a unicorn

>>32764897
It's literally 12 guys (probably less now) in a shed putting together parts made in Germany by Sig Sauer so I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to go from 10 guns a month to 11.

>inb4 you pulled that from your ass
I've done all the links before just fuck off and go to swissarms' own website or google them + bankruptcy/ financial isssues

>>32769933
No we don't. And there are new version like the 553 sb/lb

>>32770280
>tfw swiss
>tfw mine was free

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>>32770658
aint gonna give a single view to AmanletGuy

>>32771238
When you got one from the Military then your barrel has probably over 10'000 rounds through it.
So, the only advantage of the SIG550, being an more accurate AK-System is now gone.
Have fun with your heavier AK without chrome-lined barrel.

>>32771259
No.

Mine was brand new. Perfect rifling and not even one little scratch of shell ejection.

>>32771080
WTF ? Source ?

The stgw90 is made in fucking Germany ?

>>32771252
>https://youtu.be/d2Cjm2qEwQE?t=900
How about now? This is some third party fag.

>>32771313
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/02/10/swiss-arms-lay-employees-prices-increase/

They have been for a very long time. Current Swiss "SIG" is a very tiny shop with no real manufacturing capability outside of some small CNC work, Their business is refitting/refurbing old guns which is what barely keeps them alive.

The facility is literally too small to do mass production of stamped components. They're "Swiss made" per bizarre swiss law that accounts for all sorts of labor and tax factors. Sort of how watches can be "Swiss" yet run nearly 100% chink made movements,

>>32771344
So sad, why does it come this way?

>>32764800
>but that's not a roller delayed 5.56, anon

This was shitty in WWII and is still shitty.

>>32764991
Fug, I want this to come out in 5.56 already and outfit it similar to here >>32767140

>>32765318
I want to see this drawn.

>>32771344
I thought they supplied the Swiss Army?

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Sorry but if you're not using a Brazilian-made AR15 in .380 you're the lowest form of pleb.

>>32771865
funny thing about guns: they aren't vegetables & after enough guns have been delivered to the customer to arm everyone + have plenty of spares the bought weapons aren't going to spoil & even when something breaks/wears out it can be fixed/replaced without buying a whole new rifle.

>>32769912
http://www.shop.jdifirearms.com/550-Conversion-kit-w-o-receiver-SANSG550.htm

or you can pay 1600 for all the parts

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>>32764708
shigu sama

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why not both?

>>32771259
Sadly we dont use that much ammo during basic training. Well its a good thing but still.

>>32771355
Globasism and its not the same company anymore.

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Real men use the better rifle.

>>32774042
Why do the Swiss make the best-looking worst-looking rifles? They're so ugly but so beautiful at the same time.

>>32771210
I'm looking at their site, and not seeing any 550/551/553/556 rifles anywhere, and basically the rest of the internet says they stopped making them in 2015, and then very quietly removed them from their product listings.

>>32766148
>I don't see it, though it he is autistic

>>32765061
>memes about ARs being unreliable

>>32775928
>Memes about the AK being inaccurate
Fuck it. Even the INSAS rifle could be somewhat decent if it were made by competent people and sufficient ressources.

>>32774575
We're talking of SAN SwissArms here. Not Sig Sauer.

>>32764708
The answer is simple all right, but it's not that.

HK G3 (and clones) is master race
5.56 and 7.62x39 are both bitch rounds
Fuck you

>>32777190
>He fell for the roller delayed meme

>>32764778

i'm swiss and this made me cry