What do you think the next advancement in ASW or submarine warfare

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>>32701384
Posts like this should be an instant permanent ban.

>>32701361
i dunno some kind of long range accurate means of detecting subs that's akin to radar in its reliability

>>32701361

Greater ability to out-maneuver them

>>32701361

Technology associated with submarines is so heavily classified that nobody here will be able to give you a decent answer. Very few people know and the ones that do know won't tell you.

Let's be reasonable, they're probably just gonna build a slightly smaller sub.

>>32701361
Submersible unmanned vehicles with advanced sensor suites (for elint and comint). Possibly battery operated with a deployable solar array for recharge.

Could possibly have a weaponized variant as a "suicide drone".

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>>32701361
the USS freedom, i think, can just out run torpedoes.

Currently, the most effective asw platforms are aircraft (patrol planes and helps). To defend themselves, submarines will begin to carry vertically-launched surface to air missiles.

While this is within current capabilities, the sensors needed to support it have not been developed. Perhaps some form of towed/mast-mounted radar that can be extended up above the surface to achieve a lock on asw aircraft would work - basically the exact reverse of a dipping sonar array.

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>>32701398
>comes to shitpost
>bitches at other shitposters

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>>32701361
I wonder how effective they'll be when World War Whale is declared, and every Navy surface combatant goes full blown active search and starts sonar pinging the oceans to death??

>>32702278
Yeah, the LCS was designed to just outpace Torpedoes the moment their launch is detected.

*clunkFWOOOSH*

"Helmsman, 180 degree turn and FLANK SPEED!"

>>32703887
Short answer is "not very." Subs are like burglars: they work well in an environment where nobody is looking for them, and fare poorly once the lights are turned on.

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Mass produced, reusable, networked sonar/suicide drones. How can subs even compete?

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>>32703928
Depends on who's sub, really.
And how hard they wanna try

>>32704021
>8 kn/h, patrol speed
>15kn/h, cruise

What sub?

>>32704053
Not sure, honestly, i just ripped it off some site about sound trials and the differences between how the russians test vs americans.

Wait one, anon, ill dig up the link.

>>32704053
https://www.armscontrol.ru/subs/snf/snf03221.htm
Here ya go.
Looks like that graph was a generic example, but there's still some good stuff on that page if you're a sub nerd like i am.

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>>32701361
I have an idea...

>>32703887

Absalon is a meme. Huge accounting farce. Whilst capable, they certainly aren't cheap.

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>>32704158
I know.

But the RCN can dream.

>>32704085
>>32704101
Thanks anon.

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>>32701361

>>32702046
Was going to say something like this.

Remote operation, possible remote weapons as well, but I think its more reasonable for them to have fixed wired communication.

>>32704021
>10 Db
hot damn thats quiet.

>>32703970
>reusable
>suicide

Wat

>>32702943
Already a thing.
>>32703887
Active is useless. Bounces around in sound channels. Get below the layer, your good. Don't even try to pull SURTASS.
>>32703905
SHKVAL, both M-5 and M-7, not even counting SHKVAL-E
>>32705149
They are exploring this with SEA-HUNTER

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Possibly a supercavitating torpedo that is extremely small. Very small warhead as well.

To be used as a counter-torpedo, like CIWS but underwater.