Milsurp/Camo/Militaria Thread

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What are these hats ? I bought them on eBay and the shipping is from Ukraine.

>>32698436
Looks like tank crewman hats

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Canadian pants for sale.

>>32698487
Thanks

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>>32698436

The left one is a VDV soft helmet.

Not sure about the right one, might be a summer version.

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>>32691488 nice dubs btw

>>32690263
>Why would you remove the rank slide, it's not in the way at all + how did you remove the wire hood?

I just didn't like it. It serves no purpose as it isn't (and will never) be used. Plus it reduces the weight, reduces the likelihood of snags, didn't look visually appealing, etc.

I stitched the hem along the hood where the extra flap was sewn in. It literally looks like a normal hood now.

>>32698808
>No syrup stains

It's a fake!

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Ok milsurp pro anons.

>What is best boot under $40 either slip on or laced?
>Is this pair a good choice.
>What is an essential surp boot to have?

I have an Australian DPCU uniform (second generation, but not AMCU) for sale if anyone is interested?

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Also for sale

>>32699169
Depends, how much are you asking?

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>>32699161
Only boots I have are to complete sets I'm trying to assemble. I would never recommend surplus boots for anything.

>>32699546
What do you think it's worth? I could possibly get more than one pair, and in multiple sizes.

>>32698436
>>32699021

The one on the right was used as a cold weather liner for various civilian helmets.

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>>32700987
Someday... :(

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>>32699169
?

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Can omeone help me find a good size chart for French uniforms to US sizes. Keep Shooting says this is for a 56" chest but stuff I've seen on Ebay shows it's more like a 44" chest. Also trying to figure out what the difference between 112M and 112L is.

>>32702566
Also I'm 72" with a 44" chest and 205lbs in case anyone has a good size recommendation

>>32702566
The letter is Length iirc.
The number is the chest in cm I think.

>>32702614
males sense and 112cm = 44" so that's good. Would you happen to know how long the sleeves are between M and L?

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>>32702646
No clue.

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Bought this about a month ago. It's pretty comfy and keeps me warm in -20C, and it has pockets for days

Milsurp rifle question: Does anyone know how well an SKS sling will fit on an SVT-40? I just bought one, and I can't find any slings for it, and all my searches about this question are both old and unanswered.

>>32703047
Perfectly fine

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Got a pair of moleskin trousers for 8 eur

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>>32703738

>>32703738
>>32703750
King of the manlets.

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>>32704384
Man are you still beating that dead horse? Even I'm six foot.

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got this november last year, I'm too young to die....

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>>32704540
Bonus points if you're actually ROK.

>>32699161
Ooof, boots are absolutely the one thing you don't want A.) Cheap and B.) Surplus.

Protect your feet. You can't operate innawoods innawheelchair, anon.

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>>32704580
Not that guy, are there combat boot designs that are still in use from over 30 years? Any certain design of old-fashioned boots that are still in use in modern militaries? (that can be easily purchased ofc?)

I'm looking for something of communist or East Bloc design, but all I can find (besides jackboots) is the Czech M60 design, which is available on Varusteleka but are terribly used and is a bad idea to purchase.
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/czechoslovakian-combat-boots-m60-surplus/13359

I'm also wary of purchasing from sites like soviet-power and soviet-propaganda. I've read that they are run by the same owner who is a rip-off.

>>32705033
Winter or summer boots? If winter, id recommend swedish m59 winter boots, if you find new ones you will not be dissapointed.

>>32704571
>CADPAT Mesh
A real one, shit, where did you even find that? I mean on a practical level they're shit vests but a good collectors item

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>>32705145
We had a Canuk in the thread.

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>>32705154
He's busy now though.

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>>32705033
>still in use from over 30 years?

Norwegian M/77 certainly fit that bill. Too bad they're 140 EUR on Varusteleka (even though the government buys them for 35 EUR a pair).

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Chinese Military Messenger Bag
This is my new school backpack

1/3

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>>32705248
2/3

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>>32705262
3/3

>>32698323
Just in time. About to go to great Nihon, what surp should I buy while there?

>>32699161
Only buy surp boots if they are new. If they are used they will most likely be super fucked up. what are your parameters for a boot? hot weather/cold weather/ all season? full leather or fabric bits ok?

>>32705336
All the loli doujins and merch you can find/afford. That's what I'd do.

>>32705395
This

>>32704384
Somebody rang?
>>32705163
Quite
>>32705407
I think that guy in Mechanicsburg still has a box of Berets and a pair of the boots. He didn't like hearing the MfS stamped conscript uniform was just uncommon, however.

>>32705163
>>32705154
He has legit Cadpat body armour with kevlar for $400 right now.

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What are these things called in English? All I know is their Hungarian Army nickname, they were called spoon-machines.

Was there a US Army or NATO equivalent?

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>>32705548
Won;t he get caught?

>>32705110
>>32705173
I should've mentioned, I live in a desert climate so it's like summer most of the year. Winter can be managed with more socks.

The Norwegian one seems great, though I'm eyeing boots like these. It is just hard to be sure if they are good quality or rip-off, so I want to know alternatives.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-army-military-issued-summer-black-leather-combat-boots-/272109976487

>>32705665
kfs?

>>32705720
Jeez, I wouldn;t buy russian boots if you paid me.

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ask me about Ukraine

>>32708433
You mean Eastern Russia?

>>32704519
Are those Russian felt boots comfortable? Seems like they would be very fragile

>>32708603
I'm sorry what

>>32708603
>he literally can't into geography

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>>32708767
I don't know what all this "Ukraine" nonsense is, but you should change your name to "EastRussiboo"

>>32708778
Yeah I don't see it.

>>32708951
but thats west of russia you dingus.

>>32708986
Just don't reply, it's all bait

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>>32708986
Is that right?

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>>32709030

Check out this Northern Russian camo.

>>32709045

I dig it mane

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>>32709045
No gun/10

>>32709450
Noice. I got more Eastern Russian stuff right here.

>>32709513
If I kept my guns here I'd be a felon

>>32709558
College?

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>>32709513

A little more North-Eastern Rossiya

>>32709558

Where's "here"? Campus?
I know a dude who brought his guns on campus.
He's on vacation right now.

>>32709638
Worse. Cursed with being born here.

>>32709640
I don't have a campus.

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Thoughts on the new Aussie camo?

>>32709733
jelly beans but SMALLER

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>>32709640
Noice.

>>32709640
>vacation now
kek

>>32709704
Oh shit you're actually Ukrainian? I had no clue.

>>32709822
No, not at all. I was raised around them, but I'm not. I live in California.

>>32703738
>Wearing the belt as a Koppel
>Buttons open
>KS 2000
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32709838
>California
so do I and I have lots of guns. Assuming I don't die in the grapevine tomorrow I'll be getting one for free.

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>>32709733

Jelly beans > multiglam

At least they kept the colors.
I like whatever they use for the soft tops on their vehicles. Reminds me of ArmA III.

>>32709838

Damn I didn't know you were here too.

Remember: no comply

>>32709880
I don't think I can bring in my pistol regardless of mods, and I'd rather not neuter the AR. I'm also starkly against registration. I'll just wait until I'm out.

>>32709888
>them trips
Ehh, featureless isn't that bad. I get where you're coming from, though.

>>32709936
You have two options here: live in fear or register. I've just decided to check out of both. Plus there's a good chance I'm moving in with a certain drawfag soon in a nice state, so I look forward to that.

>>32710012
Godspeed. I'm stuck here for the next couple years for college, then I'm outty.

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>>32708433
>>32709045
I must reiterate.. It looks good.
Here's some Ukrainian TTsKO

>>32710376
ty friend

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>>32710403
What's the going rate for a set of original varan? Not that commercial pig tac shid, I mean actual stuff.

>>32710741
doesnt pig tac make it for the military?

>>32710754
Ayup

>>32710741
Well the military stuff is almost nonexistent on the market. I can try to cook something up though. Email me. [email protected]

>>32710754
>>32710795
Yeet, but they don't appear to be the only manufacturer, and all I'd be getting from them is stuff that was made exclusively for commercial sales, not issue.

I know I have pics of the tags of the other manufacturer somewhere, I'll throw them up here when I find them. (No, not some commercial wannabe brand.)

>>32710832
Cheers

>>32710889

Remember that the people who actually fight (volunteers) use "commercial" Ukrainian gear. P1G-Tac stuff is used in combat every day. So is the stuff made by the company I work for, Sputnik Gear.

>>32705395
I want some actual milsurp considering how rare that shit is to get anywhere else. The loli and doujins are a given.

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>>32711381

There's a bunch of surplus stores in Okinawa. Mostly murican stuff but some Jap.
Beyond that, airsoft is a huge thing in Nippon since they're basically no-guns.
Lots of airsoft stores with surplus and aftermarket JSDF uniforms and gear.

>>32711759
PX goods are the closest you would ever get to getting legit JSDF gear.

PX Uniforms are considered to be authorized "replacement uniforms" if the government supplied uniforms are too torn for use.

For collection, PX Uniforms aren't bad at all.

Can any of you lads hook me up with a JSDF Jeitai size chart? I had one and lost it.

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>>32711889

I think they work sufficiently. Plus you can throw your own insignia and modify them to your hearts content.
I just wish there were more older uniforms available. Shipping from Japland sucks ass too.

>>32711938

>>32711990
No 120cm chest/190cm height

:(

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>>32708699
Tougher than you'd expect. i use them as slippers and you know how much wear slippers get. They're still Holding up fine. I expect to get a couple of years winter use out of them.

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>>32709884
It's Barrucuda isn't it? Or at least by the same company.

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anybody know where I can get these acus?

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>>32712427

I think it's the same company.
It's some sort of hexagonal pattern with flecks.

Also I need these jelly bean seat covers for my Jeep.

Do you guys know where i can get BDU for cheap in europe ?

>>32712458
wtf??!

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>>32712543
Surely they can;t be an issued item.

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>>32712578
1/509 PIR, they play opfor at JRTC.

>>32698436
On left a paratrooper head protector. Can't really call it a helmet because it's soft

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>>32712588

Doesn't mean I don't want 'em!

>>32712565
Visit varusteleka dot com

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>When you don't even have a working prototype and you start grasping at straws in your marketing

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>>32712756

Everything's wrong

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>>32712792
It gets better.

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>>32712818

Next there'll be Segways with tracks and a shield on them.

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>>32709045
Hello fellow Ukrainian :^)

>>32712945
Пpивiт!

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>>32712960
Я нeнaвиджy aфpикaнцям!

>>32705248
Where to buy?

>>32709045
Is that a M05 boonie hat?

>>32714762
Yes, the Varusteleka one.

>>32712756
>>32712818
Is this cringe ?

>>32715008
Looks pretty sweet. I´ve been eyeing the winter camo version myself, but would like some summer weight clothing in the same pattern to go with it.

>>32715071
I'm going to buy some of the winter camo fabric and send it to my Ukrainian tailor and have something cool made.

>>32702492
Nah the desert camo is DPDU, DPCU is the standard woodland/bush type colours

>>32712578
>>32712603
all of my fucking want...prolly tru spec shirts with regular pants, now that I think about it

>>32712945
nazi scum must die

>>32715312
stay upset commie

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Is it bad that I really like Deagles? Specifically the .50 ones? Can you imagine being able to EDC one of those.

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Also if you want some buzzfeed gold:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/williamalden/the-trump-administration-is-turning-cautious-liberals-into-p?utm_term=.ajvV8vD2Z2#.gv1yxmgOQO

>>32712603
You know some old curmudgeon is jacking to this. "OD is the only camo we need".

>>32716825
Those are actually fakes made by Wispo to be sold to collectors

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>>32717302
Who or what the fuck is Wispo?

>>32717332
I thought it was a chocolate bar.

>>32717332
One of the companies that made NVA uniforms. After the end of East Germany they had loads of the jackets, patches and ranks left and some smart guy decided to make a fortune with it

>>32717302
That one is.
There are a number confirmed originals.

>>32717382
They all are originals, but most of them are "fakes" made to be sold to collectors

>>32716143

deagles are sweet and i thought about carrying one till i actually owned one. even with the special deagle shoulder holster it hangs like a 5 pound weight, drawing it takes forever because of how long it is and you'd have to carry it condition fabric because chambering a round and turning off the safety both require a shocking amount of force.

in the time it took you to unholster and ready a deagle, someone could shoot you twice.

>>32717411
See that's a real shame, if you hit someone with it I bet they'd bloody well know about it though.

Maybe one of the baby ones.

>>32717404
>They all are originals,
>but most of them are "fakes"
What? You can't have it both ways.

>>32717565
They are made by the original manufacturer, but they aren't genuine Berlin Police jackets. The few ones actually used by the police were unofficial work jackets.

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How do you lighten or change the color of a camouflage pattern?

I am thinking of changing the pattern of a (reproduction) Desert Battle Dress Uniform to a lighter color similar to Desert DPM or pic related.
How should I go about achieving this?

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>>32717949
Mess with the colour balance.

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>>32718198
Just to clarify, this is for a uniform, not the texture in the picture...
I can't detect sarcasm on the internet.

>>32717949
Try bleach.

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>>32718622
Oh, I misunderstood. You mean a physical uniform. I imagine costume departments and propmakers have a way to do just that, might be some notes on the process somewhere.

>>32718622
Wash it over and over

Let it sit in the sun

Do it the natural way or don't do it

>>32714777
Damn that actually looks pretty sexy

>>32714777
Also what is it?

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>>32712603
Yeah, very sexy. The opfor guys over in hohenfels have black ones.

>>32719260
One of the Mexican marines pattern colorways. There are also desert and woodland variants.

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>>32719787

>>32719847
Christ, that pattern always makes me cream. I'm still doing all I can to get some, but all opfor guys were just issued new stuff recently for operation iron sword 2016, but most went ahead and got rid of their old stuff.

>tfw the issue cycle for the opfor pattern is 2 years. Each soldier gets ONE set. It's only used for some missions when they get selected to play opfor, otherwise they just use the normal stuff.

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>>32719889

Damn, that's too bad. Looks like a pretty dank nighttime pattern.

Plenty of US stuff here and there but nothing recent.

>>32712020
Japan sizes are essentially Asian Size. Sorry mate.

Going to use Cospa as an example: JP L Size = NA M Size

Something like that.

That is reality with Asia. Same with Korean and Chinese sizing.

>>32720465
Isn't there a reproduction company that makes licensed Jeitai uniforms in US sizing?

>>32715360
Sike, eat a bullet

>>32715360
Sike, eat a bullet

>>32705357
Any weather any fabric is a ok

>>32721269
Yes they do, checkout J-Tech.

>Google "j-tech tactical gear"
>Click second link with the dot TW link.
>Click "English"
>Click "Catalogue Download"

I was going to describe my experience with J-Tech, but this site's dumb AI(?) keeps on rejecting me, telling me I'm attempting spam or some shit. Fucking hell...

Anyways, J-Tech only has the standard, Summer variant available. No winter variant. Custom sheet of fabric is minimum length of 1000ft or yards, I don't remember. That's wholesale length and it's overkill for the regular joe.

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>>32698323
Watermelon is best camo

>>32722382
Ok, so it appears 4chan labels certain websites as suspicious, wtf? I don't think I ever had this problem on Infinity.

I'm going to attempt describing my experience with J-Tech.

They're great. Their main operation is doing outsourcing work for American Tac Companies and wholesaling gear to mostly Asia based customers and Governments as well. Apparently, US Homeland Security uses J-Tech gear.

I bought some gear from them last year. A backpack, man pouch, some magazine pouches, random shit. Quality? High quality stitching, professional grade if I may say. However, they only offer Ballistic Nylon for flat colours, and Cordura in Multicam. I suspect this is because they have machines capable of readily creating Nylon for them while they must literally buy Cordura from 3rd parties?

So far, I only dealt with Ballistic Nylon from them. I'm going to attempt doing Cordura and see the pricing, but I can only assume it's going to be expensive as hell and unless I'm in the military, it's a waste of money and unnecessary at most.

Fabric quality is great, my gear is in 1000D I THINK. They use YKK buckles and zippers, they don't cheap out. From my understanding, their gear are made to be affordable but durable at the same time. They are made to last and be abused.

If you want minor modifications like MOLLE strips, removing certain areas of an item, or adding buckles or random shit on it, they can offer such service for a nominal fee ($10 USD~$15 depending on how complex it is).

These guys are based in Taiwan. They only accept two ways of payment. One is T/T transfer and the other I forgot. They don't trust Paypal which is smart. If you have any further questions, let me know. I ain't shilling for them, I'm just providing my experience of them to you guys since customized gear at an affordable price doesn't exist everywhere?

>>32719994
Hey Japanon, I want to ask a question. Do you by any chance know where to obtain "JSDF Winter Field Jacket" from? A legit one exists on Yahoo Auctions, USED. The prices aren't bad at all, relatively cheap if I may say. I can obtain that instead if no other options exist.

However, I am curious if you are aware of any high quality replicas out there, NEW? For example, I'd like to get my hands on this: http://femc.ocnk.net/product/5552

But it is sold out. I need L size. The product in my link is said to be one of the best replicas out there. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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>>32722542

I have not seen one since the last one that sold on ebay.
I've checked Rakuten and S&Graf and some other sites and can't find any, so you're probably better off getting the one on YA.

>>32722826
I'd stay away from S&Graf, all their SDF shit is made in China with high margins and shit quality. Their latest Type-3 replica vest is deplorable garbage shit so bad, it's the very essence of "Japanese Premium."

I rather stick with Sentou Youi's vest. For the price and quality, it's vastly superior to S&Graf's garbage. Ironically, SY's vest is superior to the Government Issued Type-3 in terms of fabric material, haha! xD

Ranting aside, I'll lurk more before I press the bid button on YA. Thanks, Japanon.

Curious to know, where are you based? Japan?

>>32722980
Pfft, not Japanese at all. He's from PA if I remember correctly.

And I'm not from Korea or Vietnam. I'm from SC.

And our very own /k/oreaboo isn't from Korea either.

We're just a bunch of namefags.

>>32712415
pretty cool. still seems like kind of a bizarre invention though

>>32722382
im navigating through the catalog and cant find anything about the jetai patterns anywhere. was this some time ago?

>>32712995
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SURPLUS-Chinese-Military-Vietnam-Canvas-Pouch-Motorcycle-Messenger-Bags-W-STRAP-/302196394701?hash=item465c4f0acd:g:v2MAAOSw~gRV46wV

>>32723121
Well, as far as I'm concerned, stay away from S&ngraf unless it's necessary to buy from them. Also stay away from Tatezakura unless there's something you need there. However, you're going to need someone to proxy buy for you since TZ only ship domestic, they don't like gaijins lol.

Otherwise just order the closest gear you can get from J-Tech. That's what I'm currently doing.

If any of you are interested in ROK, well, I know a guy you can contact.

>>32723223
All gear on their catalogue can be assigned to any colour or camo. Ignore any sort of camo/colour restrictions put in place by them, it's a lie.

>on website, click "Functions Symbol on blue bar on top of page

Apart from their catalogue, their whole website is outdated as fuck. Other colours they offer is Vietnam era OD and Modern OD (the kind of Ranger Green Emerson Gear offers).

For more info, you might want to email or Skype them.

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>>32698323
Is JSDF militaria available?

>>32723337
Sorry, let me reiterate:

Their entire website is outdated as FUCK.

ONLY their PDF catalogues are UPDATED.

I hope I didn't confuse anyone.

There is a possibility they may offer discounts depending on how much gear you buy from them. I highly suggest group order which is what I'm doing with friends in my area.

>>32723362
i wouldnt mind a bdu jacket in jgsdf pattern myself. id be down for that group buy.

>>32723344
I'm not OP, but what are you exactly looking for? How may I help you in hunting certain gear? Give me specifics and I can provide info.

You want legit or repro?

For legit, you can try Yahoo Auctions, but Government watches over those listings sometimes to pull it down. The reason being is that due to the niche market for SDF gear, there is "expensive demand" for them. Thus, an SDF member can easily sell his own shit for a very high price and easily get a replacement gear/uniform from the Government. In order to stop such practice, this is why SDF members are "forced" to give back their gear/uniform provided by Government back to Government once they retire or end their service.

Certain "semi-private" websites sell legit gear, though. PX shops and the likes of Volk Tactical sell quality shit for SDF personnel and anyone who likes gear.

Again, you can try Yahoo Auctions but us gaijins must use Proxy Services like Buyee. I trust Buyee because they are the "official gaijin service" directly connected to Yahoo Auctions. A bit expensive, but the competitors aren't any cheaper or better anyways. Unless you know a guy in Japan that you can rely on, Proxy is the only way to go.

>>32723390
Sure, you can get a generic jacket in SDF pattern, but it will not be a "legit SDF jacket." None of J-Tech's stuff are JSDF proprietary gear, as in most of their stuff are obsolete, if not OLD US gear.

For example, the Winter Jacket I posted earlier is of Japanese design and spec. You won't find that jacket on J-Tech.

And again, JSDF have two primary patterns: Summer Camo and Winter Camo

I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to JSDF, but be careful not to look like farb shit if u plan on wearing it casually. I'm not good at talking so pardon me if I sound rude.

>>32723476
yeah, im aware that none of this shit is actual jgsdf or even replica gear. being a 5'4" azn manlet, so even if it was all in azn sizing, it wouldnt be a problem.

also no worries bro. even if you were being rude, it's not like i dont expect it when i post here.

>>32723615
I hardly come on these kind of forums anymore. I just "came back" just to check out how these sort of forums are doing.

/k/ seems like a fun place, I guess the issue is /pol/?

This may sound embarrassing, but it's frustrating when moderators don't kick out or ban absolutely deplorable people who serve zero value in a thread, trashing it with comments that are demeaning, "racist," or unrealistic.

"Racist" as in the "troubled life stormfront larper" kind of people. Not the shits and giggles kind of "racism" that are considered normal here, you get what I mean?

"Stormfront larpers" as in "death to anyone that is not white, you're all slaves to us and we'll make sure you only represent less than [insert percentage here] of the population on this planet while we milk your economies dry!" or some shit. That kind of shit gets on my nerves.

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>>32722980
>>32723121

>PA
I wish, I'm in CA.

>>32723337
>>32723476

I'm really not fond of their banking system and the need for proxies.
Really a turn off. All of my collection is from ebay or other collectors.
Then again, I'm more into the older stuff, although I'd love to get my hands on the newer digital patterns.

Did you ever check out Royal Tiger's Jieitai? I've heard mixed things about them.

>>32723742
I'll talk more tomorrow. I can't die at work tomorrow, haha!

>>32722980
So where do you recommend? I'm about to spend some time in Tokyo and was planning to get a set of JGSDF fatigues as my souvenir. it comes out to $87 usd. I'll also be hitting Rikkun land but doubt they'll sell any uniform items.

>>32723140
> still seems like kind of a bizarre invention though

Watch what are you saying.
It's awesome winter legwear. Very durable, very cheap.
One thing it's afraid of - water. They are getting dry for pretty long time.
But there are water-resistant versions as well.

>>32723742

jesus christ what the fuck is that knot on that ratchet strap

and i thought privates were fucked up, holy frickin crap

>>32709733
Love it.
Also
>Land 125 is the worst thing ever invented

>>32723857
Give me 12 hours for me to get back to you. I bookmarked a bunch of Japanese sites with storefronts you can check out.

I might be over exaggerating for S&Graf, but I know their gear is not entirely worth it for the price. I think a friend of mine mentioned to me their uniform at least is PX grade? I need to double check tomorrow with him.

Some sites to check out:
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-swat/px0501355/
http://www.militant.jp/SHOP/49159/list.html

Anyways, heading to sleep.

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Today's finds

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You can find them on ebay if you who who to follow.

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Some guy I know is selling an M65 fishtail parka in XL.

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>>32725027
Lavender meme

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>>32725408
Is that lovin' the meme or that pokemon suicide thing?

>>32725584
Pokemon suicide thing? Now you got me confused, i just referenced mike lavender selling the fishtail parka with his first and only opskit uk meme

>>32726179
Ohhhhhh. He's a nice guy though. He lives near me so I went and picked some stuff up.

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I want to get started with militaria, where should I go to find references/information about uniforms and how do I actually get a hold of specific attire?

>>32726564
Ebay, flea markets, surp websites. Camopedia is good but i would go on a case by case basis if you want genuine surp; do research on what each military issues/uses and proceed accordingly

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Neat

>>32727230
Some kind of crazy mashup of East German and Russian kit? Neato.

How do I into private sales?

>>32728279
Find item. Give owner money. Receive said item.

>>32728403
Would I need a PayPal or something if I wanted to sell something to a person in another state?

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>>32728553

Why does German stuff always have the name tag/tape on the wrong (compared to everyone else) side?

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>>32698436

Paratroopers jump helmet.

>>32698487

Tank crews helmet has throat microphone and headphones/hearing protection in it.

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Bought a set of what appear to be Russian-made Kryptek Mandrake combat shirt and pants for 40 bucks today. Can anyone tell me what the tag says? How did I do?

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>>32728924
Here's the full set.

>>32728924
Well it translates a:

Leader build
reliable products

I can;t make out some of the characters on the stamp, but that is one bitchin' logo.

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>>32728933
>>32729043
I assume it means industry leaders or some marketing thing, incidently.

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>>32729043
I've been checking these out since I got home and the pockets have internal AR mag pockets like 5.11 pants. Pretty interesting. There's also spots for internal kneepads. the shirt came with a retarded reflective strip on the back of the collar, which thankfully was velcro so I replaced it with a name tape. Only one shoulder has a spot for patches.

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>>32729071
Ah, top part of the stamp reads cвoбoды мyжecтвa 'freedom of courage'. I can;t see the whole word at the bottom of it. Doesn;t throw up a company page on google as far as I can see so it could be because of that missing bit.

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>>32729110
Interesting. Here's a closer picture.

>>32728924
Where'd you get them? They look interesting

>>32729136
Oh, it's Leader/Chief again. I also just noticed that it matches what it says on the buttons. That's interesting then..no company name.

>>32729154
Surplus store in southern CA. They're really cool. I can't wait to take them innawoods.

>>32729216
Really? Huh. I'll keep looking around on the internet to see what I find. Thanks, man.

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>>32729110
Can we expect to see more Burden brand products in the future?

>>32705407
>>32705033
I find GDR camo/equipment to be some of the ugliest shit out there, especially the helmets.

>>32729333
Even trips won;t make me say anything more committal than "Probably in the future".

>>32729220

Which one?

>>32728413
Ideally. A check or money order would work too.

>>32729421
Gearhound in Oceanside.

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What a shame most stuff light enough for summer is desert colourway.

>>32729774
Doesn't the US have summer variations of most of their uniforms?

>>32729545

Hmm, I don't usually have much luck there

>>32729853
No, we have like absolutely nothing. The only patterns we've issued on a large scale in the past 20 years were M81 woodland, that trash grey UCP digital, and recently the multimeme/scorpion/OCP family for the army, and woodland and desert marpat for the marines.

Navy patterns suck ass, and they're just now starting to issue type 3 nwu's (AOR 2 )on a larger scale to replace the blue garbage nwu type 1's.

No summer or winter variants of patterns. Just totally different patterns. The only one thathat comes close to being a seasonal "variant" is winter marpat, but it isn't as much as a different colorway of marpat as it is a completely different pattern.

>>32729853
>>32730787
Forgot to mention three and six color desert patterns for large scale issued stuff.

Also, I guess the "summer variation" thing KIND OF includes the "hot weather" m81 bdu's, although any sort of variation in the colors of the woodland pattern would just be accidental or a result of them being printed on a different fabric blend. Even then, we don't use them any more.

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>>32729853
>>32730787
>>32730847

I know the BDU's had a winter weight, which sucked, a normal weight, which was eh, and a summer weight which was good but faded quickly and badly.
As far as I know the general ACUs, MCCUUs, & NWUs, don't have any variations.
The ABU has a summer version, but only had the interior map pockets removed and is the same weight/weave.
Nowadays the Combat Shirt is being worn as basically the "summer" shirt, but there are no hot weather trousers.

>get another 38R M43
>has some staining but looks nice, ahs all buttons
>along with a keep on truckin patch which i am about to take off
>check for inspection tag
>its ripped out like my other one
welp

>>32727230

Isn't that an SS smock? Made into a jacket?

Where can I buy one?

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>>32702744
youre crazy to wear it in -20c
just a couple weeks ago it was -20c and i had to wear pic related and a sweater
im not gonna freeze to death in the land of cheese

>>32729853

The US prefers layered systems for seasonal changes like ECWCS, underlayers, goretex jackets, liners, etc.

Removing the sweatshield and changing the material on the DBDU might count but that was more of a general improvement than anything. The Navy was testing summer-weight NWU Type I's right before everyone switched to Type III's instead, there was even a message passed down about switching to them. Also maybe poplin vs ripstop jungle jackets.

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>>32731382

It's custom I think, never seen one like it. Bought it from a vintage dealer in Brooklyn.

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>>32723718
please return to r*ddit immediately, nigger

How much would I be looking to spend if I wanted to pick up a proper SOG operating in clandestine operations in 1968-1969 Vietnam setup?

>>32731719
only dumbasses dont wear specialized clothing in those temperatures

>>32732376
u

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Had a friend who was soldier in the Donetsk People's Republic army give this to me as a parting gift. He said it was a commando camo shirt. Anyone have any clue what exactly is this camo?

>>32731719
Czech parka?

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>>32733375

Well, it's VSR-93, however I've never seen it in that cut before.

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What's the best soap for washing my milsurp?

I have a ton of Mills Fleet Farm and Varusteleka crap that smells like.. fucking milsurp. So I can't wear/use any of it. What detergent should I use to keep the number of washing cycles to a minimum?

>>32723873
I think its just the slack from the strap tied up to be out of the way.

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>>32733665
Yes, M85

>>32733812
I use regular Tide with warm water, then air it out to dry. Works 99% of the time. If it's really bad, then maybe I use some Oxyclean powder too.

For mothball smell DO NOT WASH with other clothes. The smell will just wash into your other clothes. To get rid of mothball smell, wash on hot and hang the clothes in the sun. The naphthalene will sublime out of the garment, leaving it smelling better.

See pic related for a really heavily mothballed jacket

>>32734147
>sun
It's fucking winter, God damn it.

I'll try some Oxiclean.

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Anyone know stuff about older Soviet era night vision? I'm kind of considering getting a pair for shits since I may be able to get some for cheap, but I'm somewhat afraid of cataracts that are associated with old Soviet era night vision technology.
Are these just PNV-57E tubes put into a shell that somewhat looks like 1PN-63s, or are they really more like the tubes in the 1PN-63s and other later Soviet night vision?

>>32734179
For the jacket pictured, I washed once or twice on hot, then hung it inside to air out. A month or two later, it smells fine. The sun is faster (a day or so) but not absolutely necessary.

Note that most modern milsurp is just kinda musty and maybe has some mild preservatives. Mothballs are a really strong, distinctive smell that you might not recognize if you aren't 70 years old. Regular milsurp is easy to wash. Only mothballs (which have an unpleasant kind of petroleum-like smell) are a pain in the ass

>>32734281
I'm familiar with mothball odor, my shit doesn't have that. I'm having a tough time getting my stuff to smell "fresh". They smell fine enough for the range and whatnot, but I have a few pieces that are normal enough looking that I want to use them regularly.

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>>32734353
In that case, pic related + airing out to dry has never failed me

>>32708699
>>32712415
Are you sure these aren't meant to be boot liners?

>>32734563
>nogunz neverserved wannabe historians
>knowing how to actually use gear

There's a reason they're the laughing stock of /k/.

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>>32712818
WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY EVEN MEAN BY THIS?

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>>32729774
Did you ever get any Sumrak? I can confirm it is IR treated.

>>32712846
Is that shield on his rifle useful?

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>>32734563
Yes, but they can be worn with galoshes. Look up Valenki or watch the The Admiral, a lot of soldiers wear them in the winter battles.

>>32734828
It's still on my list.

>>32734587
>night vision applications
needs moar
>dynamic
>warfighter
>solutions

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>>32735825

Not that I know

>>32733812
>not liking the milsurp smell

>>32733812
Have you ever been in fleetfarm? It smells like the stuff you buy in the whole store, at least thats how it is in Steven's Point, WI.

>>32733812
I use All for my real milsurp. Doesn't seem to fade it. Idk if it ruins any nvg coatings though. If that's important to you.

>>32731108
The ACU was shit. Hot as fuck in heat, even though it isn't form fitting and freezing in fall and definitey in winter.

>>32711367
What's the story behind this?

>>32737499
It's Luxembourg M05.

>>32737518
I didn't know Luxembourg used Finnish spring/autumn camo.

>>32737568
It's a locally produced copy of the Finn m05.

>>32735844
I've mostly gotten meme use out of it.. Playing with Gen1 night vision was the most fun.

>>32737859
I figured, but the camo patern is an exact copy.

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>>32738729

Slight™ differences.

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>>32740091

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>>32724484
I saw "border guard" before I looked at the picture and got really excited...but it's just OD, poo.

In other news, my package from you should be arriving sometime this week (unless New York holds onto forever).

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>This triggers Ray/k/are

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>>32744614

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>>32744614

>finally selling some of my shit on ebay
You got some competition now trench :^)

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>>32698323

i got some UCP

>>32746813
underrated

>>32732360
I hardly go on Reddit or any other forums these days. Don't make assumptions. Do you think it's a good when a thread about certain topics get derailed heavily by said LARPers I mentioned?

I ain't Black or Jewish, but I find it inflammatory when Stormfags honestly believe Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese are on the same level as Africans. LARPers/Stormfags offer nothing to a thread other than to have the thread die prematurely (post count limits until archived).

>>32723857
I apologize for slow response, but here you go, all the info you need for the best places to browse "Japanese Premium" gear in Japan lol:

http://aggressor-group.jp/abouts/
>Yubinbango651-1232
>Kobe, Hyogo Prefecture, Kita-ku, Matsugae-cho 3-chome fourth No. 8

http://www.ranger.ne.jp/company.html
>2 Chome-6-3 Shimoyoshida, Fujiyoshida-shi, Yamanashi-ken 403-0004

https://www.sandgraf.jp/index.php?main_page=page_3
>Yubinbango101-0021, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Sotokanda 6-chome, 14-2 Sakai Suehiro building 7F

The list is for stores that have physical and online store.

As a bonus, some airsoft stores you can browse around while you're at it:

http://www.first-jp.com/articleinfo/detail.php?id=327
and
http://echigoya-tokyo.jp/user_data/shop.php


I would like to note I over exaggerated about S&Graf. Some of their SDF stuff are decent, some are not to put it simply. The uniforms are actually decent, I forgot they were PX quality.

There are two types:
Airborne Version:
https://www.sandgraf.jp/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=220_237&products_id=2638

All Seasons, regular forces Version:
https://www.sandgraf.jp/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=220_237&products_id=987

I can not locate the Winter camo uniform.

>>32747095
Another thing to add on.

The issues my colleagues had with S&Graf would be the construction/materials used to make their helmets, and my colleagues (if memory serves me right) are not too fond of the quality to price ratio for S&G's combat vests.

From experience, S&Graf should be able to communicate in basic English, so for the average Foreigner, it's not a bad place to visit not to mention their Tokyo store is located within Akihabara Electric City.

If memory serves me right, you are not allowed to touch their display mannequin and take pictures of their store. In fact, various stores in Japan or maybe just in Akiba do not allow visitors to take pictures of their store and merchandise. I don't understand why.

Also, it appears S&Graf has decided to carry Sentou Youi's Type-3 Vest.

Sentou's Type-3 Specs:

>1000D Cordura
>Quick release function included (Quick release function "may" damage your vest as it is intended to instantly "disassemble" the vest to tend the wearer's wounds, troublesome/hard to reassemble)
>Currently the only "holy grail" of Type-3 replicas out there
>Only one size if memory serves me right, either L Size or Hybrid M~L Size
>Length: 40 cm · Height: 57 cm · Width: 15 cm · Weight: 3.2 kg

MSRP is aprox $264.41

Why it's cheaper on S&Graf, I don't know.

Keyword to look for on the internet:
>自衛隊防弾チョッキ3型(レプリカ.台湾製)

It literally means "Japan Self Defence Force Type-3 Vest (Replica, made in Taiwan)

On Yahoo Auctions, look for this seller:
>saigigaku

http://closedsearch.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/closedsearch/%E8%87%AA%E8%A1%9B%E9%9A%8A%E9%98%B2%E5%BC%BE%E3%83%81%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD/0/

As mentioned 2 days ago, the legitimate, Japanese Government issued gear are all made of Ballistic Nylon, while Sentou's vest is made of Cordura. Both are indeed 1000D.

I will report back ASAP if S&graf's Type-3 vest is Sentou's or their own clone/replica.