How would one hypthetically modify an Ar15 to be full auto in

>>32693920
No the BCG is the same as those on most modern ARs like your pic. The lower is where the magic happens.

Full auto is fucking dumb for anything that's role doesn't end in *machine gun.

>>32693969

So why does our government not want us to have them?

Also SHALLNOT.jpeg

>>32693920
No. It doesn't work like that op.

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>>32693920
By obtaining the proper licenses to purchase a full auto lower of course. Then You just have to switch them

>>32693920
what would you want it for? aimed semi-automatic fire is better.

>>32693920
You should go learn some shit. The fact that you have to ask this question means you shouldn't ever do this, even in the event of a foreign invasion.

>>32694062

SHALL.jpeg

>>32694033

cuck

By getting licensed and buying a full-auto lower receiver.
Or if you want to cheat legally you can get a bump stock.
But if you think you're going to monkey around with a lower receiver when you don't know what you're doing, you're asking for two things:
Fucking up the safety on your gun and killing yourself, or worse - someone else.
Going to pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
Bonus fuck up: Making gun owners look like retards.
Extra bonus: Making your AR worthless.

>>32693920
You have to drill a hole in the lower so that you can install an auto sear. It's really not hard, just illegal as fuck. Come rifles, like Troy's XM177 clone, has a fake auto sear dimple which literally would act as the perfect guide for any retard so inclined with his drill press.

>>32694132

Just how effective are bump stocks? Are they worth it? Are they meme tier?

>>32693989
Because Hoover didn't like it how criminal gangs kept kicking his ass.

>>32694174
You don't need a bump fire stock to bump fire. It's a waste of money

>>32693920
If you're fighting against the government then presumably you don't have access to the amount of ammo a soldier has access to. Therefore it would be more beneficial to use aimed semi auto shots than spraying full auto everywhere.

>>32694135
>Worked for a manufacturer with dealer samples.

Yeah, ok dude.

Put a can opener in your gun.

>>32694294
I don't know what you're referencing with that greentext, but I worked for a dealer who sold transferables as well as manufactured dealer samples and it really was a simple job.

>>32694197
actually its because he wasnt getting a cut

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nice try, ATF :^)

>>32694409
Yet you don't about some important things. It can be, but better suited for a mill. Also, we shouldn't be giving details.

>>32694089
>using cuck non ironically
Go back to /pol/

>>32694089
>SHALL.jpeg
i know, but stay in context. i mean why wait for that event? in either of those cases you can just go get one from the OPFOR, so you won't need to convert yours at all.

>>32693920
Pretty easy actually. You would likely need access to a drill press and mill however.

You need a m16 BCG for the auto-sear to be properly operated.

You need a select-fire FCG (fire control group).
This includes the trigger, disconnector, safety, and auto-sear.

And, a lower receiver that will accommodate the auto-sear.
This will include drilling, and likely milling.

And as others have said, once the sear pin hole is drilled in the lower receiver, you are liable to get arrested.

All this info is readily available on the internet.

Still not worth it anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWfk9W90shk

>>32694600
To anyone reading his instructions, just don't. Respect the law. It's not worth getting popped.

>>32694655
Were there actual instructions anywhere?
It was more like "be adviced".

>>32693920
couldnt you tie a string around the trigger and attach it to the bolt in a way that every fire makes the trigger go off until empty?

i dont have a rifle

>>32694655
>Respect the law

Cuck faggot

I'll follow it for my own good but don't you dare respect this shit.

>>32694600
DON'T DO THIS IT MAKES MUSTARD GAS!

>>32693920
Genuinely interested: Do modern Militaries have select fire full auto AR15s anymore?

>>32694600
>likely milling
Not unless you live in the 90s.

Not that you should be doing this in any era without the proper licenses and taxpayer statuses.

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>>32694819
>couldnt you tie a string
no

>b-but
no

>>32694841
Yes, why would they not? It's a really simple thing to add.

>>32694655
I am a califag, this is what califags say. Are you a califag?

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>>32694655
As the poster of those basic instructions, I agree totally.

Having an illegal 'machine gun' is really just a liability more than anything that is cool about it. Having to look over your shoulder all the time would be lame, not to mention, an unrelated search of your home could turn into heavy charges b/c they found your auto-AR.

>>32694851
How would you make the receiver accommodate the auto-sear without milling? Most every manufacturer I've seen has their lowers narrowed immediately to the rear of the FCG that would block the installation of an auto-sear. The full width of the trigger pocket would have to be brought all the way back to the safety.

>>32694434
>Also, we shouldn't be giving details.
Information isn't illegal

>>32694922
>Having an illegal 'machine gun' is really just a liability more than anything that is cool about it
>Not making an illegal suppressor for your illegal machine gun
C'mon now

>>32695016
>Not making an illegal suppressor for your illegal machine gun that is also illegally SBR'd.
That would be pretty fucking cool.
I just have to give a (((disclaimer))) so I have plausible deniability for when they try to send me to club fed.

>be you
>put duct tape behind firing pin in forward position
>lock bolt to rear
>insert full magazine
>press bolt catch
>???
>profit

>>32694197
that was fdr retard

>>32695125
Not president Hoover. FBI director Hoover

>>32693920
No, it's not.

(a) "M16" drill hole above selector for auto sear, install F/A trigger group and auto sear, requires "M16" carrier.
(b) "DIAS" mill out the shelf, install F/A trigger group, requires "M16" carrier.
(c) "LL" cut out lightning link from sheet steel, drop into lower, requires "SP1" carrier which can be bought or made from any other carrier
(d) "open bolt caucasian" add a lot of weight to the firing pin, fires from an open bolt by the bolt catch, may detonate out of battery
(e) "open bolt negro" solder the firing pin forward, fires from an open bolt by the bolt catch, almost certainly will detonate out of battery
(f) "bumpfire" put a spring between the back of the buffer tube and the inside of a bumpfire stock. the spring will reset the trigger, see the Akins Accelerator
(g) "bumpsaw" same as above, but use a bipod for the elasticity instead of a spring

Ask me how I know.

>>32694275
Untrained militia in urban quarters with full auto will be more effective than if they were untrained with semi.

That's just a fact of more lead down range is more chances of getting a lucky shot.

>>32694174
>Meme tier
The fuck does that even mean?

>>32694998
No it's not. Guys like you could care less though if they give details and then someone does it and it changes their life. But you know...You wouldn't feel accountable at all.

>>32694841
My issued m4 did. Only time I fired full auto was at an advanced marksman range I set up, for the sole purpose of having an excuse to shoot full auto and see its effectiveness.

>spoiler: it wasn't

>>32695267
if people are compelled, they are going to seek out the info, whether it is on here or somewhere else. It is wholly their responsibility whether they get rammed by the law or not.

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>>32693920

>>32694455
Faggot

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>>32694174
>>32693920
Go home ATF, you're drunk.

>>32693920
I would put a M16 fcg in and 3D print and then metal coat a drop in auto sear, hypothetically

>>32694135
What is a drop in auto sear

>>32693920
>remove pins
>change receiver
>put pins back in
>lock and load

As a former CF soldier who had F/A on his service rifles... I only used it to dump ammo. There is no real practical use for it... people think its cool and controllable (thanks Hollywood) but really even in CQB mag dumping requires a lot of technique.
You are way more accurate and effective double tapping....
When I did CQB shit it was all semi, quick double taps center body... you will get more accurate and quicker the more you train...

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>>32693920

>>32695881
Expensive

>>32693989
Liberals are dumb and ban scary things, not dangerous or effective things.
A full auto sub machine gun or light machine gun is a hell of a workhorse though.
Your full retard AR15 will make you waste all your ammo in this hypothetical meme revolution.

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>>32693920
freedom of information isn't illegal mr. atf

just providing schematics for a specialized bottle opener.

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>>32696323
more

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>>32696336
little more


you're welcome

The thing about tyrannical governments and invading forces is that they all have full auto weapons.
I would just shoot the nearest tyrannical ATF agent and loot his gun from his body.
Then loot any pictures of his family in his wallet and jerk it to the thought of them crying over thier lost husband and father

>>32696323
that doesn't make it select-fire, makes it auto-only which is fucking useless.

OP, have a machinist make you a DIAS and then buy or convert your FCG to a select-fire FCG. The differences are minor and I'm sure you could nigger-rig it.

Hypothetically, of course.

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>>32693920
The devices for Glocks are actually drop-in though, if you wanted a machine pistol, hypothetically, in this hypothetical scenario.

>>32694840
apex lel

>>32694174
Opinions differ, but I don't care for them. I don't like that kind of shooting anyway.

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>>32695201
>(c) "LL" cut out lightning link from sheet steel, drop into lower, requires "SP1" carrier which can be bought or made from any other carrier

The DPMS "commercial" spec bolt carrier they sell has the SP1 style cut at the back, but retains the shrouded firing pin on new bolt carriers, for out of battery kaboom protection.

Also, these work for AKs hypothetically.

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SKS DIAS print, interesting study.

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>>32696743
another example text on a very educational item

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Operator brand Operator link info rebranded.

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OP there is a wealth of information on the subject.

1911 auto conversion

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>>32696786

>>32696743

Different dimension is before and after bend, right?

>>32696806
i presume you're talkign about the print being intended to work with a piece of steel that is too long, so the bend makes it the proper OAL?

yes, those kinds of things are outlined clearly in shop manuals, probably why the thicknes of material is specified.

>>32696824

Yes, the top view on the right being before the bend and the left being top view after bend. Made sense to me, I just wanted to make sure.

>>32694858
Bend a coated (non-marring) coat-hanger wire back, behind the trigger, and attach the string to it.

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>>32696864
the pink picture should lay it out more clearly

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M10 anyone?

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machinenpistole

>>32695272
Thanks. I've heard stories about military rifles set for semi and burst only with no capability for full auto.

>>32693989
people with shit training shoot as fast as they can.
way back in the day, gangsta with full retard would shoot full retard.
More shots fired added up to more stray bullets killing random children.

so, now city trash has to pull the trigger more often and fewer childs get capped for no reason. It doesn't really change the number of dead gangsters.

Honestly, in a habbening, having access to full auto wouldn't change the number of dead goberant workers.

In theory, anyway...

>>32694275
this guy gets it.

>>32695222
this guy does not get it. He has no idea how big a headache it is to run logistics for a guerilla force. It's not about shooting people; it's about winning the war.

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>>32693920

>>32695222
this is wholly untrue.

>>32695223
i reckon he means 'is it on the level of memes(gags/dumb shit)' and to answer that question yes they are pretty memetastic. however if your civilian-outfitted squad needed a machine gunner, one of those with a HBAR and plenty hicaps would do in a pinch.

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>>32694600

I had a friend do this.

Cops suspected he had a FA because he shot it out in public somewhere and word of mouth got back to them.

They had no evidence and he only got in trouble because he voluntarily turned over the gun to them.

He did not get in very much trouble like what you might think.

We have a very good chance of removing the Hughes Amend and getting FA back to being able to be made and sold freely.

Let's keep up having a good attitude about this.

>>32693920
Are you retarded?

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>>32693920
drill autosear hole, located something like .865 above the center of the selector switch hole, locate and drill on both sides, DO NOT drill through in one plunge.
Ensure that you drill an undersized hole, THEN ream it out to .125. Now all you have to do is take an endmill (hopefully you weren't retarded enough to think a drillpress would do) Then you mill the rear sides of the trigger pocket to uniform width, and mill the shelf at the back of the trigger pocket back so the leg of the sear has room to go down and contact the selector. Then you need to find a way to get a fullauto trigger pack without being traced, either buy one of machine one (the leg of the auto sear is gonna be a bitch, and good luck getting the hammer and it's autosear hook right, that's a conjuring trick short of using CNC machines) You can remove material from the selector easily to make a notch for the sear leg to run into if you have a horizontal mill and you can use a rotary with a ball endmill to make the slot and notch for the detent to rotate the selector to full auto. then you have to get a full auto disconnecter going, and have the right spine on the selector to depress the tail of the disconnector. Then vuala! Profit.

>>32699622
You can press a piece of round stock milled square on one end into the angle of a regular old hammer to add the hook to it, or weld a piece to it.

You could (potentially) spot weld a tail on the disconnect.

And making the channel in the selector switch could be done with a file.

>>32694062
Not better for suppression.

>>32694294
Manufacturers don't have dealer samples. How don't oyu know this?

>>32695267
I wouldn't feel accountable, no. I also could care less, because I don't care at all.

>>32696940
Yes, those exist. The M16A2 and M16A4 are semi/burst, but burst is still automatic.

>>32694840
Yeah, but it is actually activated by saliva. As long as no one on this forum is dumb enough to start licking gun parts it will be okay.

I saw a guy who had a booth at a gun show who had several small boxes with FA parts in them and he even had baggies with all the parts like little kits.
Was this a sting of some kind? Or was he just some guy like the 'solvent trap' salesman?

>>32694526
This is an interesting thought. Any 11b is gonna have a select fire M16 (it IS an M16 then, right?), and they'll have all sorts of other sexy bullshit too.

You could start the war nekked with just a mosin and six other buddies and conceivably land a whole squad worth of gear if you wait until the right moment

>>32701731
>Any 11b is gonna have a select fire M16 (it IS an M16 then, right?)
That's the Marine's, right? No, they will have an M16A4. The M16 probably hasn't been issued to anyone since the late 60s.

>>32701706
It's not technically illegal to own the parts and they often come with parts kits.

>>32693920
I came here to laugh at you.

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i enjoyed this thread

>>32693920
>perform ambush on tyranny
>loot corpses
>have machine guns

>>32702011
I'm glad, ATF.

>>32695272
Maybe it was only ineffective because you weren't experienced enough to utilise full-auto properly.

>>32693920
Kill a soldier, take his lower.

>>32695267
If someone does it that's their own damn fault you fucking moron. Quit trying to hold other people accountable for their mistakes.

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>>32695201
Don't forget about the gat crank

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>>32701761
Marines is 0311 with m16a4 and some m4. Possibly m27 I AR but I think those are just certain units like LAR *faint "OUTLAWS" in the distance *. 11b is army and they get m4a1 I think now.

T. Formerfag

>>32703820
Oh, yea, Army will have M4A1s.

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>>32693920
Put fishing line around both of the catches. Just kidding it doesn't work don't do this.

>>32693920
Get a slide fire and a decent trigger then go shoot it. After that come tell us if you want a giggle switch

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>>32693920
Take inspiration from pic related

>>32694033
>By obtaining the proper licenses to purchase a full auto
There is no license to purchase a machine gun. Tax stamps.

>>32693920
just file down the firing pin

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>>32693920
Are you familiar with the Echo Trigger? I've been asking the currently unreleased AK-variant of it in a few other threads but since you're talking about the AR variant which is already about finished I think I can help you.

This first video mostly shows the trigger in action while in early development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYThNUVZrYM

This video here is an install video for the trigger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nXtN8B-Xc

What do you think of it, anon? Is it a suitable answer for you? What do you like/dislike about it?

>>32693989

It wasn't to prevent an armed insurrection, as you're suggesting.

>>32696638
Or better yet them crying over their lost wife and mother.

>>32694033
the only time you would need a license to purchase NFA items is if you are already an ffl that doesnt have a SOT

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Texas Bumpfire stock for $99. Legal live ammo full auto "simulator."
Takes five minutes to install.
Or you can buy a Slidefire stock for $400.
Or Fostech Echo Trigger or Franklin Armory Binary triggers at about $450 each for legal bumpfire triggers.
Otherwise it's modifying your lower and machining steel parts. Or using a shoestring if you have an AK.

>>32704908
>>32704808
Does anyone have experience with the Echo or Binary triggers? Which did you prefer more if so?

>>32705180
Recently tried the Franklin armory trigger. It was awesome. Plan to buy one in the near future for a dedicated 22lr build. So much fun. No experience with the other.

>>32693989
>So why does our government not want us to have them?
gangster movies

Inject parkinsons syndrom in your shooting hand and get full auto on every weapon

You can buy an m16 a1 triggergroup for literally $100 and then drill/mill it yourself, but as has been stated multiple times, it's not worth it and you will definitely go to prison if you are caught with it.