Why would you own a AR15 instead of a AR10? 223 bounces off skulls

>>32677422
You have to be 18 to post here.

Post your AR-10, OP

What about 7.62x39? Is it an acceptable middle ground?

>>32677422
>223 bounces off skulls
Livestream a demonstration for us please OP

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>better platforms exist for the .308win/7.62nato cartridges
I could just stop here desu
but I won't
>same design flaws as AR15 just a size up
>weight actually does matter in the field, you're tough on line but 3 hours into a ruck you'd wish you had a lighter rifle
>.223 is an adequate cartridge. it really, really fucks hadjis up

I can tell you've either never used an AR10 or just want to feel good aboutt your shitty firearm purchase. You could have had an actual DMR, but you opted for a worse platform. If you just wanted to argue .308 vs .223 you could have, but instead you made it a platform argument and lost before you even hit post

1. Volume of fire. No matter how strong you are you can always carry more 223 then 308.
2. Parts availability. -dont need to explain-
3. Options. You can get an AR-15 in any configuration you can possibly imagine
BTW im a 308 fan boy and i prefer running 308 rifles. But there are good sides to both.

>>32677422
30-30 Winchester

Best of both worlds and you get to do the spinny-flippy reload thing and look like a badass.

>>32677581
It's the middle ground between a full size rifle cartridge and pistol cartridge. You might even call it intermediate.

>>32677581

>When .243 is better.

>>32677682
volume of fire is literally the determining factor of the out come of a battle in modern combat.

The sooner you swallow this redpill, the better.

t. educated anon

>>32677422
who says my ar-15 is chambered in .223?

>>32677581
>middle ground
>less range than either

AR-10s are much more expensive, and I'm a wageslave

Do you own an AR-10, anon? I bet you have one because mommy got you it

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>>32677875
if you wait and be patient you can find what you want at decent prices

>some random anon

>>32677735
Th-this.

>>32677849
Fun fact; the US has never won a single war with the .223

Vietnam
>literally BTFO
Iraq/Afghanistan
>huge embarrassing defeat
Syria
>literally lost before we even entered it.

Granted the US has not officially and legally declared war on anyone since 1942. We all know the Jewish takeover and ensuing wars to defend Israel and global Jewish interest stirred op some conflicts like the aforementioned which can definitely be classified as wars.

>>32677883
i have a faxon 16 inch pencil barrel, it is LIGHT AS FUCK

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>223 is just good enough to shoot rabbits with

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>>32677422

>>32677926
ive been eyeing the faxon for a while because it was a half pound better than the mega barrel i had before. then brownells had it on sale so it was a must buy

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>>32677422
Both are capable rounds, I own both a AR-15 and a AR-10. The AR-15 is my main combat rifle while my AR-10 is my mid to long range engagement weapon platform.

5.56 works fine as a combat rifle so you don't need to carry around a 7.62 rifle unless you want to drop your target at a longer range than what 5.56 is capable of.

>>32677593
>You could have had an actual DMR, but you opted for a worse platform.
Op is fulll of shit but you are too, the AR-10 is the perfect dmr platform and you just have a hate boner for anything related to stoners AR-15/10 design
>/pol/ meme image
Oh wait your just a shitposter from /pol/
>>>/pol/

>>32677883
>there are 20" barrels for $200.00

Sheeeeeit. Slap an mlock and low profile sights and you're good to go

>>32677682
>1. Volume of fire.
But if you are alone, and maybe you have to harass vehicles or generally shoot through things from a distance?
>especially when you are alone

>>32677422
Let me shoot you in the head with a .223 and then you can shoot me in the head with a .308, deal?

>>32677861
300memeout is only useful in pistol/sbr configuration.

>>32677422
How many times are you going to make this thread?

>>32678741
you can get an ar-15 in 7.62x39 too. so you have the best of both worlds

>>32678112
>long range engagement weapon platform

Top kek

>>32678117
I own an AR10 retard

>>32677507
>7 hours later
>Still no OP AR10
kek

.30 Carbine can't penetrate a wet paper bag, give me 3 Jackie Chans to use it.

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>>32677422
>Why would you own a AR15 instead of a AR10?

>Not owning one that can do both

>>32677422
1. Because everything you said was bullshit(and I don't even like 556 that much)
2. Because I want a gun in both calibers
3. Because 223 is actually better at steel killing than 308 within 100 yards(not sure if positive or negative aspect to be honest)

>>32679662
#3 really suprised me with the saw vs 240b ap tests.

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>>32679740
I can't speak for actual AP ammo, but it makes a fool out of steel cored 54r too.
Pic related is lots of steel core 54r, steel core 545, and a combo of lead core 545/762x39.
One shot with 556, and it melts through like butter nearly every time.
Out on my 400 yard steel, 308/54r makes a chump out of 556. 556, 545, and 762x39 all look about identical when they hit out there, except 762 is more likely to turn my hanging steel.

>>32679799
Actually AP ammo will punch through stuff way better.

>>32677422
why 308 instead of 50 beowulf what are you a dyel faggot ?

>>32679740
That'll probably change with M80A1 coming into service with a 7.62 EPR bullet now.

>>32679930
I would assume so.

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I can't think of a single situation where I'd want 308 over 556. It only has a slight advantage at longer ranges, and will do a bit better in windy conditions. I'd rather have more ammo.

If you want a real improvement, 6.5 grendel is a sweet spot for weight, capacity, and terminal ballistics.

>>32680175
Is that 556 or 9mm? The wound profiles look so similar.

>>32680175
Isn't that a proper snek tattoo?

>>32677422
>bounces off skulls
All the canoed targets of DEVGRU would like a word with your retarded ass

>>32680175
>6.5 grendel is a sweet spot
If it only was more common all around. One can only dream.

5.56 and 308 are both infrastructure. I would pick 308 because in my nightmares I am alone and I want to keep distance to my pursuers.

I am (as a hunter) very convinced on the devastating effect of mushrooming hunting bullets for 308 against unarmoured targets. I also have a small stash of exceptionally armour piercing rounds for it, to shoot through things.

I am not a long range shooter. I can't really do that with a proper confidence. But if there is a head size target at 200 meters, and it stays there immobile for the next 7 seconds, I will own it with my both 5.56 and 308. A head and upper torso visible for the same time at 300 meters, I will most likely hit the target with both calibers.

I still like more the 308, simply because it makes more damage at the same distance.

>>32678112
jesus fucking basement dwelling christ, dragging your fat yank ass to a range once a once and blowing away paper counts as combat? ''my main combat rifle''
my fucking sides are going supernova at the level of wannabe tryhard in your post

>>32680175
>ultra rare bruise pepe
can I save this?

I am actually building an ar10 in leu of an ar15 because I've shot .308 so much the recoil isn't noticable to me, but OP is a faggot

>>32678117
I don't hate stoner designs. The Stoner 63 was fucking badass, should have been picked up instead of the AR 15

>>32677422
Stop making this thread every day or I'm gonna fill them all with steven universe.

>>32677917

Ah, the old "choice of small arms cartridge decides wars" meme, that's an old meme but I'll give you it, it's one of my favorites

>>32679339
Got any pics with the 15 upper on the 10 lower?

>>32681243
no it shouldn't have.

>>32677917
>Vietnam
Dragging the enemy by their fucking teeth to the negotiating table and forcing them to sign a peace accord at gunpoint because they're down to their last 500 men and ten MiGs, and then not going back when they decide to ignore the accords the following week because we were sick of the AVRN and the southern government being corrupt useless shit is not losing.

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>>32681826
Found one.

>>32679662
Got a link for 223 being better within 100 yards?

>>32682015
It's faster.

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>>32677735
Truest post.

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I honestly just like the aesthetic of the AR10.

It looks and feel thicker and heavy duty.

The AR-15 feels really light and breakable to me honestly.

>>32681937
North Vietnam could have been literally murdered by USA, without any nuclear weapons.

>>32681954
Interesting

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>>32682286
It's a special kit with a magwell block and buffer set. Lock it onto the AR-15 upper, slide it into the magwell and lock that pin in. The rear pin just sets into the upper's block.

It does mean you can only use the upper receiver it comes with for 7.62, though.

>>32677467
FPBP

>>32681058
no, you'll devalue it on the meme marketplace

>>32682465
So works for any 308 lower?

>>32682869
Nope. Note that the Colt MARC 901's lower magwell pin point is on that pointed bit instead of the top like on normal AR-10/15s. It's an AR-10 you can use any AR-15 upper on with the kit.

>>32682869
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7LAufqXh4

The 7.62x51 Real Fucking NATO, performs better at all ranges over the 5.56x45. When people are saying that the M855 has slightly better ap ability than your standard M80 ball, that is unfare as far as comparisons go due to the former being a much newer round. And the M80 will still be a superior against other barriers.

Yes the new M855A1 and the MK362 are the best 5.56 rounds yet developed along with the awesome pure armor piercing M995, which unfortunately is super expensive. But guess what? The US has developed 7.62x51 versions of all of these rounds as well. The M993 can even give level 5 body armor a run for its money.

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>>32683251
>M993
>7.62 NATO

I recall seeing a SSAB chart saying it penetrates almost an inch of real ballistic protective steel.

It has a TC core.

>>32682998
That's pretty damn cool.

>>32682998
>How do you convert the 901 between calibers?
>Easy, just replace most of the rifle
Amazing.

>>32683625
>i can shoot three different rounds out of two uppers, and a lower

I mean if there is a better way to consolidate that exact thing that doesn't involve two complete rifles go ahead and tell me

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>>32683625
And? There's a ton of different calibers you can switch between on AR-15s just by swapping uppers and maybe the buffer. Because the lower receiver is the regulated firearm. This gives you the option to use those on a lower that also fits a 7.62x51 upper.

>>32683251
You mean M80A1.

I am extremely dissapointed that this anon >>32677591 doesn't have a thousand you's of "This".

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>>32682015
Just personal experience.
See pic related and >>32679799

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>>32682015
And here's soft steel up fairly close.
556 went double as deep as 545, which when double the depth of 762x39.

>>32685558
I know how an AR-15 works. I'm making fun of the firearm because there's nothing revolutionary about it. you could get the same effect, and somewhat more versatile, with simple magazine well plastic moldings.

>>32685779
Not really. There'd be nowhere for the forward retaining pin block on an AR-15 upper to lock in, unless they started making special small-caliber AR-10 uppers.

>>32685836
>There'd be nowhere for the forward retaining pin block on an AR-15 upper to lock in
The pivot pin? Put it in the molding.

>>32685942
I'd like to see you try that.

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>>32687222
bin dun befo

>>32687275
I'd like to see you try it with a standard spec AR-10 lower.

>>32687543
I'm not sure why you think there'd be a difference.

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>>32687921
I'm trying to figure out how you think that would actually work.

And why nobody's actually done it before if it's so easy.

>>32677422
Why are you so fucking poor you can't afford both?
Oh right, because you are a child without a proper job.

>manlets pretending they're soldiers

308 is the superior civilian rifle round and you know it

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>>32677883
Still cost more then my cheap Gucci rifle. And really I went through around 500 rounds of ammo before I found the ammo it likes best. Ammo cost is half.

>>32677422
Neither, because I'm more comfortable with my M1A and I'm less concerned with overpen than being able to punch thru light cover while still doing some appreciable damage.

>>32688235
Or you could just reload your own and work up a load specifically for your gun.

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>>32677591
>>32685601
agree.
heres one

>>32688437
not for $.33-$.40 a round he cant

>>32688437
>>32688553
not to mention the practice he gets shooting that brick

>>32688553
>not for $.33-$.40 a round he cant
Yes, he can. And hes going to group better than your bargain brand brass ammo too.