ITT: Ask a brazillian Military Cop anything - "We PATAMO

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Forgot the trip and timestamp as usual.

So what funs you take with you on vehicle patrol? Would you trust your life with any Taurus made pistol?

>>32672762
How close is the RS jails to have something happen like those riots in the north?

Aren't you scared of getting targeted by gangs and what not because you have a high rank?

Maybe even your friends and families?

>>32672762
Good to see you alive Brazilian cop-bro. I lurk your threads occasionally but my current questions are only partially /k/-related. How are things with the country's leadership what with the Dilma getting the boot and all? Also when is Venezuela going to finally kick the bucket and are you worried about Venezuelan refugees trying to come to Brazil?

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You the guys who's posted before?

Also, what do you think about the future of your country? Do you foresee a SHTF scenario? Are the monarchists just a meme? What were you doing during the olympic games?

>>32672801
Probably Imbel 50.00s and random AR-15s.

>>32672775
Lol nice timestamp.

>IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR

>>32672762
Shoul have also said:
>literally no mor room in prisons, people being arrested are (were?) being kept in police cars untill they found room somewhere, people had to wait days at a time.

Congrats on the PATAMO unit btw.

>>32672801

The best way to describe why tactical vehicular patrol is great is by comparing it to regular operational duties. Let's see.

Working in PATAMO goes like this:

>exercize command from vehicle, always in active patrol
>new, good performance vehicle (with A/C and powersteering)
>brand new armement, usually one assault rifle, one SMG and one shotgun
>four highly skilled and experienced men
>attributions: respoding to high-risk calls, stopping suspect individuals and vehicles, going into dealer-dominated favelas, getting other garrisons out of trouble, riot controlling

Working in any operational unit:

>sit fat ass all day in batallion
>old ass cars
>two rookie privates, oftenly one woman
>shit guns from the 80's and 90's
>domestic violence, bar fights and traffic shit all day long
>in a 12 hour shift leave batallion maybe once or twice and visit a checkpoint of a crime scene for problem solving and good PR, but that's about it

>>32672775

FUCK. 2016 is so embedded into my mind I forgot the fucking year.

>>32672818

So far, pretty unlikely. Our factions around here couldn't care less about PCC and CV.

>>32672844

A little, but they are more scared of me. All my friend are from the BM, and thugs don't know what little family I have left.

>>32672847

Temer is doing a breeddy good government IMO, but is getting a lot of backlash over trivial shit thanks to communists that like to bitch and moan about everything.

Regarding Venezuela, there is already a massive wave of cucaracha immigrants coming here. Our luck is that Venezuela is far from our main citites and they are starving-poor so they can't get here.

>>32672865

I post once every 3 or 4 months. As far as the future of Brazil goes, I'm pretty hopefull. The people are sick of commie scum and conservatives are growing by the day.

Yes, monarchs are just a meme.

I worked during most of the olympics thanks to communist protests.

>>32672875

Although prison conditions are shit (I worked three years in Presídio Central, trust me, I know), the "riots" aren't about that. They are about killing rival faction members.

>>32672985
You have some really good English skills.

Did you immigrate from another country or did you learn English that well?

>>32672985
>>32673010
Yea, I remember your Central stories. As a fellow gaúcho, it's nice to know that is probably not coming here.
Anyway, good luck on the PATAMO. I bet you'll have some pretty awesome stories for next thread.

>>32673058

Natural born brazillian. Have to be to join the Military Police.

Learned it from scratch. My parents always invested in my education. When I was a kid I studied english in a special course for 8 years. After that, I used and continue to use movies and books for my comprehension skills. Actually, one of the reason I started these threads over one year ago was because my writing skills were going down the toilet. They've considerably improved since then.

I second this question >>32672801

What kind of weaponry do you take with you?
24/7s and IA-2 Carbines like ROTA? FAMAE? That new Taurus .40 carbine? What do you guys usually carry in RS?


Also, would you be willing to be a cop in RJ, getting to carry a battle rifle but having to use it constantly and move around in armored trucks?

[spoiler]Boa sorte na nova unidade, OP.[/spoiler]

>>32673087

It's kind of bad that it's not getting here. I really wanted Central's galaries to free up some space.

And thanks, my conterrâneo. I start on PATAMO next month. Last time I did something like this was during my probatory internship over ten years ago. Hoping to do a good job and some good stuff to tell you next time.

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>>32673093
Brit here studying English at uni, your English is fantastic and better than most of /k/.

>>32673112

PATAMO usually has one FAL and one CT.40, plus either a shotgun or another FAL. The FALs are being quickly replaced by IA-2s and the CT.40s (as all SMGs) are kind of being retired as they break down, their substitute being the IA-2s.

>>32673129
What did you think of the movie Elite Squad? Its all I know about Brazil

>>32673112

Also, forgot:

Obrigado, anão. Não se esqueça que a PATAMO está a serviço do povo gaúcho. Vivemos e, se necessário, morremos para lhes proteger.

>>32673141

Thanks, britbro.

>>32673194

I loved it. It is a leftist movie that backfired into being one of the most loyal interpretations of the brazillian (and carioca) PM in the 90's. At the time when it came out there hadn't been much time since I left the academy, so I was pretty hooked on it. Overall, I think it's the best brazillian movie ever made.

>>32673218
[spoiler] Não sou gaúcho mas fico feliz em saber que tem gente como você para proteger o RS. Ainda bem que existe gente como você aqui em SP também. [/spoiler]

What about the second question? Would you still be a cop if you lived in RJ?

>>32673194
Not him but nowadays things are worse than in the movie.
See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ERc3RW_eY

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>>32673319

Tenho certeza que tem gente assim aí. Respeito e admiro a ROTA que cresci vendo na TV como sendo a unidade que mais mata vagabundo no país. Até me lembrei de um documentário que eu vi na época de uma defensora pública eu acho (uma Maria do Rosário da vida aí) pegando os Inquéritos Policiais com autos de resistência (bandido morto por resistir) e lendo quem que tinha sido responsável. ROTA, ROTA, ROTA... kkkkkk Nunca me esquecerei disso. Se achar aqui eu posto.

As for the second question, yes, I'd be a PM in Rio. I belive the life for officers is easier there, but even if it was to be an enlistedman, I'd still do it. I can't see myself doing anything else, and I'm good at this.

>>32673319

FOUND IT, HOLY SHIT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JVycVZfCx4

26:30

Great documentary about 1990's ROTA in São Paulo. Shows how a PATAMO unit operates and the shit it faced (and faces) on a daily basis.

>>32673409
I mean no edge, but would you ever surrender? Such as someone opens your door and has a gun in your face, and want to kidnap you? Or would you rather be shot then and there?

>>32673488

Also trying not to be an edgelord in my awnser - no, wouldn't surrender. Surrender for a PM is certain death, probably with a great deal of torture in between. I would die fighting, no question.

Also, the documentary I posted has english subtitles. If you wanna get a glimpse of what a day's work is, skip to around 5:10.

>>32673538
I figured as much, thanks for the response.

Do you like anime?

>>32673642

Not really. I tried watching some, but never liked it.

While the current issue seems to be PCC vs CV, are there any other potential crime issues that seem to be on the rise/a threat in the future?

Thanks for these threads by the way, they're great!

>>32673647
What guns are you most comfortable with? What guns would you like to have. How do your armaments compare to those you fight against?

>>32673746

Plenty of issues, I'll greentext some of them, by order of importance.

>shortage of 50% of troops in the BM in my state, set to increase to 60% within the next two years
>increasingly deficient salaries leading to an all-time low on troop morale, specially in Porto Alegre
>Presídio Central going to shit is always the third most important issue, no matter what time period we're talking about
>rise of the V7 crime faction in Porto Alegre, constant war with Bala na Cara and Manos generating dozens of murders a week
>dramatic rise in more violent modus operandi employed by common, street-level criminals. Theft has been surpassed by armed robbery as the main crime in the Capital


These are the most pressing ones that I can think of.

>>32673780

Most confortable (as in, my preference) with the following:

>assault rifle
AR-15 platform, preferably with a soild bolt configuration

>full sized handgun
Walther P99 or Glock 17, both equally great

>shotgun
CBC Pump, don't ask me why but I love this shotgun, even over it's (better) american counterparts

Of course that those are not our guns. Our arsenal consists of aging Taurus PT 92s, 1980's FALs and CT.40s. The CBC Pumps are the only one on the list in the BM's arsenal. In any case, despite the age, these weapons have had and outstanding performance against criminality over the past 20 years.

>>32673848
Any street smarts you'd like to share about Porto Alegre? Such as spotting criminals and/or criminal activity?

>>32673938

Sure.

>Petrópolis posses as a secure neighboorhood but is, in fact, the leading area for armed robbery, be carefull there
>Also, all those bairros near Viamão, Alvorada or any place close to a highway (leia-se: Navegantes, São Geraldo, etc.) are a carjacker's dream. Carefull there.
>don't go to the city center with any valuables and/or between 20:00-08:00, it's hell and we can't do anything about it
>don't use the 3rd perimetral, avenida Ipirana or Protásio Alves (from Alto Petrópolis and up) between 23:00-07:00
>on the central areas, the most dangerous period of the day is between 06:00 to 08:00, especially during weekends, mondays and fridays
>if you really want a crime that's bothering you to stop, don't bother with the Civilian Police. They are useless in every aspect. Instead, send a correspondence with evidence to the Ministério Público. They do a much better job in making sure stuff is investigated and punished
>regarding street safety: don't display your cellphone in public, don't use any jewlery or overly expensive clothing, trust your gut and never walk into a place you're not 100% sure you can get out of quickly and without making a fuss, when sitting down at a restaurant or bar, always pick the table that overlooks the entrance so you can see whos coming in or out

>>32673924
What about other gear? Do you use plate carriers, if not could you buy your own?

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>>32674079

No Body Armour or plates for daily use. Today I use an equipment belt with the usual stuff (flashlight, cuffs, weapon, beating stick, knife, swiss army knife, pen, etc.). When I start working in PATAMO I'll have to use an armored vest (probably II-A) and carry the same items as above, only now with a tacticool outfit.

Pic related, PATAMO's uniform.

>>32674079

And no, I can't just use my own stuff if it doesn't look exacly like our issued uniforms. Even sunglasses have a patern they need to attend in order for us to use them. Remember we are a military institution, regulations are in order.

>>32672918
Fucking nice, hope you stay safe and keep others safe but have fun about it

>>32674166
and I hear there are not enough vest for everyone, so you get to wear a sweaty vest off someone else.

>>32674166

i like how the criminals are treated like dogs and locked into a cage in the back of a truck so you dont have to hear them bitching and whining while driving

>>32674238

Thanks, my friend.

>>32674246

Depends on the Company. Me, personally, having been a Company Commander for the past 5 years, have never let my men use eachother's vets, boots, etc. I always made a great effort in speaking to the command and with my political contacts in order to get my company the gear they need, but there are a bunch of lazy commanders who don't give a shit about their men and give them the middle finger. In these cases, the troops are forced to share a bunch of stuff, including vests.

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>>32674267

Our dogs are treated much better than any criminal. They ride on the backseat. Thugs on the other hand...

>>32674317

Correction, not the past five years, but five years in total. The shit I did in Presídio Central hardly counts as a company command.

Do you put corn on pizza?
Mayonnaise?

My ex grew up in Jaguariúna where her father was building something for motorola, said they'd all bring peanut butter as it was something you just couldn't get there.

>>32674461

I do eat corn pizza. Mayonnaise I never quite liked.

Indeed we do not have peanut butter here. Not that I miss it as it's absolutely disgusting.

>>32674166
IIA seems rather weak, what kind of weapons do you see criminals using? I know cops around here have IIIA usually.

>>32674513

You're right, IIA is weak. Usually criminals use .38, .380 and .40 caliber weapons. Every once in a while we aprehend an assault rifle in 5.56 or 7.62.

I saw a "specialist" on television a few months back stating that close to 40% of armed robbery in Brazil is made with airsoft guns. What's your take on that?

>>32674556
Like a legit, fully automatic assault rifle or a semi auto clone?

>>32674556
Do you ever shoot or get shot at?

>>32674556
Have you ever thought of sewing a IIIA soft insert panel under one of your vests?

>>32672762
Congratulations on the promotion.
>chose fun over profit
This is the right way to live life!

>>32672985
>What little family I have left.
I'm sorry. That sounds sad. I hope it was primarily natural cause.

>>32673093
Your english is very good. Good for you dude.

>>32673464
How much of the criminal tensions and faciton lines are determined by race?

Why do you think Brazil has such a crime problem? Leftists collegiate institutions in The United States claim it is the result of the history of colonization.

>>32672762
Negro I have seen some footage from the prison riots and them fuckers are kebab tier desu. Stabbing people's eyes and chopping heads off is next level shit even for Brasil. The worst thing is that some of those fuckers already have ties here in your european brother country.

Let them die, let them all die, esses filhos da puta. Continuação de bom trabalho e fica em paz.

God bless OP, keep safe and kill the thugs that are corrupting your country. Greetings from /K/anada

>>32674588

Both, but mostly your american versions.

>>32674593

Many times.

>>32674603

I always contemplated the idea of purchasing a IIIA vest and adapting it our one of ours, but it's highly expensive for us (especially considering our shit pay as of the past 5 years) and not really worth the trouble. Maybe I'll do it now if I think I really need it.

>>32674623

>I'm sorry. That sounds sad. I hope it was primarily natural cause.

100% natural causes. I never had a big family to start out with, and with my parents gone, it's down to pretty much three relatives that I care for and love. Such is life. On the other end, I was blessed with a very select, loyal and loving group of friends that I care for very much, peharps even more than I would for family members.

>Your english is very good. Good for you dude.

Thanks, my friend.

>How much of the criminal tensions and faciton lines are determined by race?

0%. Race and crime has no correlation, at least in Brasil. Crime is a much more related to the culture that surrounds it.

>Why do you think Brazil has such a crime problem? Leftists collegiate institutions in The United States claim it is the result of the history of colonization.

Brazil's crime has skyrocketed since - guess what - the 'redemocratization' of the country in the mid to late 80's when the Military Dictatorship ended and the 'democrats' came along. After almost 30 years of left-wing leaning policies, this is the result. A good system of repression and punishment could curb our crime rates by at least 50% within 10 years. Communists go on and on about 'muh educashion' and 'muh public health' and 'muh non-efficient prison system' but matter of the fact is that if you jail and/or kill criminals they don't commit crimes anymore. It's as simple as that.

>>32674639

Também estou adorado essa guerra aí. Obrigado pelas palavras de encorajamento, anão.

>>32674685

Thanks, friend. Will do.

>>32674639
>Let them die, let them all die

Here here to that. Their savage animals that will never ever reform. Kill them all and the leftist trash as well.

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>>32674746
>it's highly expensive for us
I think it's safe to say if you set up a PayPal account we could partially fund something. Legally, of course.

>>32674746
>If you kill criminals, they don't commit crimes anymore

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How severe is corruption in the Military Police?

Have you ever been approached to take a bribe or threatened?

Thanks for doing this thread, brah

>>32673249
It was a leftist movie really? But he bashed stupid college kids and would regularly bash the leftists. Backfired hard I guess. And I'm glad you loved it both are some my favorite movies

>>32674746
>Race
The reason why I ask is that in the documentary you posted, towards the end the mother of the young man who was shot during the motorcycle incident was going on about how her son being black had something to do with it. Very interesting considering the dialogue in The United States these days around crime and race.

So just to be 100% clear you as a police officer see little to no correlation between race and crime in Brazil?

>left-wing leaning policies, this is the result.
So you propose that a history of lax punishments and law enforcement is what created the current crime issue?

Very interesting. Also If you ever wanted some good armor I'm sure some /k/ommando's on here would be happy to help you get some.

>>32674420
Haha I fucking love you guys. Godspeed man hope you live a long and happy life

>>32674790

I apreciate the generocity, but I could never accept something like that. Not only on general principle but also due to the fact that the issuing of proper vests is the Brigade's responsability and something I learned over my time here is that if we start taking certain responsabilities on our own hands the command will stop what little they were doing before and, all of a sudden, it'll become your responsability.

>>32674806

>How severe is corruption in the Military Police?

Not severe at all. In my state, it's minimal to non-existent. In other states I can't say for sure, but I can definetly say it's less severe than in the Civilian Police.

>Have you ever been approached to take a bribe or threatened?

Yes to both. Of course, I never took it.

For what it is worth, stay alive and live a happy life Brazilian comrade. Sorry if I sound too lame but I am genuine. You and your comrades are heroes.

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>>32674877
Oh come on. Let us buy you a nice comfy trauma pad to go UNDERNEATH the armor at least. Or send you a 'motivational' patch you'll be too ashamed to wear in public.

>>32672762
Is there any chance a coup could happen, so society could reverse to the times of Artur da Costa e Silva,so your country could unfuck itself?

>>32674909

This is the least I've ever hated you.

>>32674825

I'm saying it has no real correlation, but that's from my experience and in my state. Of course that there are plenty of people that claim otherwise, especially black guys who are arrested commiting crimes. It's always racial for them, but fact is a good ammout of BM's privates and officers are black. Go figure. I often use the term 'nigger' as an analogy to criminal, but that's just out of habit.

>So you propose that a history of lax punishments and law enforcement is what created the current crime issue?

Precisely. That, combined with the incompetent administration of our economy, lead to a major increase in crime.

>Also If you ever wanted some good armor I'm sure some /k/ommando's on here would be happy to help you get some.

Thanks, but see >>32674877 as to why I couldn't accept it.

>>32674909

A patch I would gladly take, but the armour I cannot accept.

>>32674922

None whatsoever.

>>32674927
It used to be whatever wroth was stirred up in one thread was kept compartmentalized there, y'know.

>>32674960
Give us a worksafe mailing address, then. One you don't feel afraid to publish on the ass-end of the Internet, being fully aware you may get a battery-powered dragon dildo along with the goodies.

>>32674877
You talk a lot about the states.

Does Brazil have a conception of "states rights" the way America does? I mean are some laws different state by state, and is this difference supported by an appeal to the sovereignty of each state?

Is there State pride?

Nice thread.

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>>32672985
>I post once every 3 or 4 months. As far as the future of Brazil goes, I'm pretty hopefull. The people are sick of commie scum and conservatives are growing by the day.
>Yes, monarchs are just a meme.
>I worked during most of the olympics thanks to communist protests.

Crack any skulls?

>>32674995

Choke on the compliment, then.

>>32674995

I'd give you my batallion's adress, but since I'm moving within them month it would just get sent back since I'll be no longer there. I'll tell you what, give me your e-mail and I'll send you one with my home adress. Just don't publish it all over the internet.

>>32674999

Some of Brazil - especially the South and Southeast - has a lot of regional pride. Our federation is diferent from yours, as our legislation is mostly federal. Criminal law, for instance, can only be legislated by the union.

>>32675068
Not to sound cagey, but I think it needs to be a group thing. When you're settled in to your new digs, let us know.

>>32675089

Sure will, my friend. I wish I could send one patch back for each I recieve, but ours are more strictly controlled, so I suppose I'll have to find another souvenier to give y'all.

How about bullets extracted from dead thugs? I had a friend of mine who used to dig them out in case forsensics ever asked, but they never did. He still has hundreds. I'll ask him some if you guys are intrested.

>>32675068
>I'd give you my batallion's adress, but since I'm moving within them month it would just get sent back since I'll be no longer there.

Wait I thought you were staying put to command the PATAMO unit?

How would you feel if your position was taken over by lolis?

Have you ever had to work with with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as a part of your job?

Well, gentlemen, it's been a pleasure, but I have to go now.

I'll save the thread and check it tomorrow, so if you have anything left to say or ask do so and I'll read and respond if it hasn't 404'ed by then.

I work all day tomorrow so I'll probably only read it at 01:00.

Good night and thanks for the great evening we spent toghether.

>>32674960
What happens to confiscated guns?
I'm assuming they usually get destroyed if everything goes by the book, have you seen any gun that you didn't want to spend the rest of it's life in an evidence locker / send it to be destroyed?

I know the laws are strict but what are Brazilian ranges like if they exist at all?

Also, do you have a personal weapons?
If so I'd love to know what you own

God damn I love learning about how things are on the other side of the fence, stay safe huebro , always love your threads and it would suck if they ceased

Just awnsering these last ones.

>32675139

Yes, but PATAMO's Company is in a diferent adress.

>>32675140
5/5 breddy gud

>>32675150
No, he's always too busy driving instead of shooting.

>>32675164
Be careful out there.

>>32675194
So, just for the record, you do approve of tactical lolis removing slum gangs?

>>32675268
Who doesn't?

>>32672762
Sort of off topic. Is fart porn an actual common thing in Brazil?

>>32675172
Not him but I think I can answer.
A "law" was passed about 1-2 weeks ago that allows police to use weapons that are apprehended instead of destroying them, this way the government saves the money that would be used to buy rifles.

Lots of good stuff too, drug dealers often have ARs, AKs, a looooot of FALs so they all can be used. Sometimes police confiscate AUGs, .30 and .50 Brownings. One time they apprehended an AT-4 but I think that won't be used by the cops.

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Are you the same person who posted a while back with this pic?

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>>32675137
I'd really like one and I'd happily trade a patch for it

>>32672762
i love your threads. Congrats on PATAMO!

Always nice to see you post here. Here's a question for when you come back. Ever been in a gunfight? What was it like for you?

>>32676685
Last few times he's posted, he's given us some breddy gud stories about being in a number of gunfights.

Better question would be "been in any gunfights since the last thread?"

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>>32675137
>bullets extracted from dead thugs

>>32675137
>he still has hundreds
Friend that is powerful fucking hoodoo.

>>32673093
>Natural born brazillian. Have to be to join the Military Police.
Fuck

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>>32675137
>How about bullets extracted from dead thugs?
YES

>>32674922

>Military government again

You want it to get even worse?

>>32674746
>we need more repression
>anyone who complains is a commie
Ahh good ol' South America, you never change.

>>32672762
Como vc acha que a PM de SP se compara com a do RS em termos de equipamentos, recursos e treinamento?

>>32672762
What's your usual work-out routine?(more gym or obstacle course & calisthenics) And how to do anticipate it will change once your join the PATAMO?

How many rounds do you fire per week/month (side arm vs rifle)? Do you train using "kill houses" or at least specially arranged shooting courses or is most of the target practice done in a standard, non-dynamic shooting-range?

Would you say you're a better shot with the side-arm or rifle?

Which part (if any) of BOPE is underrated and overrated? Are they more famous because they face tougher criminals or just because they're in the state of Rio De Janeiro?

What's your age range? 20-25 / 25-30 / 30-35, and at what age is the active personnel forced to take a backseat/desk job?

If you're in it for the action why not the Armed Forces? I'm sure Brazil has some commando units

Can you clean up the damn drug trade going on in the running tracks all day at redenção?
I used to like running there as it was somewhat close, but now just feel scared since a few times there were absolutely no one but the dealers.
Sometimes a patrol goes there, but they do absolutely nothing.
How hard is it to go undercover and get them on the act?

>>32680273
Somewhat in this vein, but do you ever bother with nonlethal force (at least as it relates to firearms)? Like, just drive by and beanbag the shit out of everyone as a deterrent?

How much legal pressure is there on you to actually prove someone is guilty before arresting them?

>>32680370
>actually prove someone is guilty before arresting them?
Worded that incorrectly, what constitutes a lawful arrest? When is lethal force authorized? Is there any sort of backlash for use of "excessive force"?

>>32675037
he prefers trap dick

>>32679969
Not him, but if you want action, the Military Police is the way to go.
While the Armed Forces barely train with live ammunition, some units of the military police in Rio get in daily shootouts. I mean, you'd probably spend more time inside armored cars in the police than in the Army.

>>32675137
VERY INTERESTED

>>32673319
I always thought Caveirões are retarded as fuck, since you can't aim properly with your rifle, a mounted turret with a MAG like in a IFV would make much more sense.

Ainda estão usando os FALs por ai? Tem sorte, os IA2 aqui na PMSP estão uma merda, já começaram a dar problemas mas como sempre os ufanistas da indústria nacional tem abafado isso.

>>32675172
Since the tight gun controls in 2003, more than 70% of gun stores and ranges closed on the whole country.

We have a monopoly on ammunition, so we pay VERY expensive for ammo, something like R$5,50 per round if you don't reload at the least, that's around 2 dollars for a shit bulk round (Magtech, please don't ever fund these guys).

We also have a "national similarity" import ban, so stores can't sell any guns to civilians that have a "national similar model", according to those, any Taurus shit is similar to SIGs, CZs, Glocks, thus those aren't sold on stores, IF you have the money and a CR (I'll elaborate on that soon) you can import on your own and pay something like 90% of taxes with the exchange, the result is having to pay something like R$8k for a Glock 25 or R$6k for a Bersa Thunder. Other than that, the whole market is controlled by CBC/Boito/Taurus/Imbel, and they are still overpriced due to monopoly and taxes.

CR = sport shooter registry, the only way to have a shall-issue and visit ranges without a giant headache, for "defense" registry you need to state a reason, thus making it a may-issue and most times you get permits denied, try again and get it, but CCLs never get approved)

>>32675137
>shoot some bullets at books
>roll them in morcilla stuffing
>send them to silly Americans
Not going to lie, I wouldn't even be mad if that was the case

>>32675137
>if you guys are interested
VERY
INTERESTED

>>32682628
Believe me, if there is one thing Brazil has a lot are dead thugs's corpses, he's probably telling the truth.

Bumping with police """ambush""" on Rio two weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60k6lhjMuic

I wonder if OP is coming back...

>>32680273
redenção is just pretty much criminal paradise.

What configuration do you typically have for your FALs? folding/fixed stock, barrel length, optics, etc.

>>32685691
Not him but most units around here have a 50/50 mix of fixed and folding stock, usually full length 21in barrel and no optics. I imagine his is something similar but can't guarantee.

>>32672762
Why isn't Brazil more pro-gun? They are the only other country that has the NRA.

>>32672762
Have you ever worked with BOPE? how were they if so?

>>32675137
>friend is bored and pokes at corpses with forceps
>pulls bullets for fun
>this is kind do of fucked up, better make some weird excuse
I'd watch cats and small animals around him

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Bamp

Temer has just announced Army is gonna be mobilized onto prisons, I wonder if it will be the PE or ordinary barracks cleaning task forces.

>>32687435
It kinda is, if you ask the big majority of family people they are pro-gun, mostly males on their 30-60s that raised a family and work are pro-gun, some women too but most are >muh feels and education.

Besides the usual liberal teenager pot smoking shit head, the big majority of Brasil is conservative to a degree and pro-guns, but since our independence was a joke, we never got anything like the 2A, no one ever fought for freedom here, and when someone tried (1932 revolution) it failed hard enough for the dictator back then put on gun control at work, and it's this way since then, just got much worse in late 90s with the liberal sociologist FHC president and later Lula, the syndicalist piece of shit that cut off his own finger to live off pensions.

No one ever fought for freedom here, people in general never cared for fighting for their rights.

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How do you unfuck Brazil?

>>32693546
20 years of hard military quarantine and martial law, then proceed to bring back the royal family onto power, make a 2A style law with stand your ground laws and open the market.

>>32672762

Where can one buy Brasilian military uniforms online?

>>32672762

Well, glad you've stayed among the living.

hey OP, congrats on the PATAMO unit, it takes a real men to do such a risky job.

also, what do you conceal carry?

i have been seing mikes with pt840's and pt100's as issued sidearms down south, but i'm curious if you carry your service weapon or if you have something more reliable?

also, being so close to PY, do you carry good american ammo (federal,etc) or do you just stick with cbc?

CAVEIRA,PORRA!

fica com Deus, irmão!

>>32693934
Ah yes, facism has always been a big help to countries in the past.

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>>32672918
tell us about your assault rifle, smg, and shotgun then

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>>32696051
Odd, the CBC here in America seems like pretty good stuff, sealed primers even.

>>32696149
well ,yea ,but there's big debate around this.

cbc fuckers say that they sell the same product both to brazilian and north american market .

i have to say, i believe that's a fucking lie, and magtech ammo is in reality a lot better quality than our domestic market ammo.

the export ammo is pretty reasonable, but then again, so are the guns.

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>>32696310
so, what 9mm SMGs do you guys use?

I think the 9mm SMG is something that will make a return to war in the near future. It just seems like a solid, cost-effective idea for urban combat.

>>32696493
It's only a good idea if you can't afford 556 carbines. So unless there's a WW3 and we go broke fighting don't expect it in rich countries. Also I believe he said somewhere else in the thread, it's an ugly ass Taurus something.

>>32696885
Well I just realized if the opposing force has armor then a 5.56x45 rifle would be miles better than a shitty SMG.

Especially with AP ammo at 18"+ velocities.

>>32696988
Which again supports the idea that they would be used world wide only if all militaries had completely exhausted their resources.

>>32697089
I wonder if OP has armor?

>>32672762
Hey, camofag here, and I know it may be a long shot, but what are the chances you'll sell one of your uniforms to me. I collect from all countries, and militaries' patterns aren't too hard to come by, but police stuff is ALWAYS nearly impossible to get. I'd love to see ANYTHING in police patterns, old stock, trades, used, anything. Many countries' police forces don't have patterns, but South America is notorious for it.

Even if you don't want to sell anything, I'd love to talk with you more, hell, just to have as a contact for questions in the future during your (saidly) long absences.

[email protected]

Cheers for making these threads man.

>>32696070
Oh yes. Look at Chile. If it wasbt for them theyd ended up like Venezuela.

Last update I had on IA2s they were having some malfunction issues in PMRJ's operations. Basically they were breaking. I'm not sure about the maintenance costs neither. Taurus is still banned from selling arms to the Army and police and I have no clue why don't the police use IMBELs. Do you have any clue into that. Btw, don't scare the gringos into thinking you had high chances of dying. I know how the police works in Rio Grande do Sul.

"'Enchemo' o rabão dele de bala"

>>32674166
II-A isn't really good for shit! I'll send you a set of III-A soft armor if you ask man! I wouldn't trust my life with II-A.

Hell, I have a set of spare ESAPI plates if need them. Pair that with some soft armor and no fucking dindu spic mix could shoot you.

>>32697110
Read the bloody thread.

>>32680455
God women are fucking stupid

So, what actually goes into the maintenance and staffing of a Brazilian jail? How are the criminals sorted?

Pinging BRcop. I want to send some goodies.

How expensive is it to mail to BR? What is allowed? What would get confiscated?

Hopeful bump

>>32672762
Than/k/s for these threads /b/ro. They are always very interesting. Stay safe.

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>>32672762
I just watched pic related. How hardcore is BOPE in reality? How do they compare to PATAMO?

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OP what's it like getting shot at with these?

>>32699932
Hey, that's a sydney!
>All those old as fuck 90's sedans

OP was gone last night, folks. We can banter amongst ourselves, but asking Anonimo anything is pissing into the wind.

>Brazil

How the fuck are you alive?

From what I've seen the criminal elements have no issues hitting you off duty, with your wife, in your car, etc?

>>32700401
Since he is a police officer he actually can carry a gun to defend himself, and is trained to use it, so it scares of the bad guys.

Bump, fuck the system

>>32672762
>huecop
>not BOPE

Why live?

>>32700401
>>32700457
Also, porto alegre crime gangs are nowhere near the level of rio's.
We are probably the most dangerous regional capital in the country, but that's because there are mostly no cops around thanks to our failing economy and budget cuts.