>New T-90 >dub the T-90M what do you think? please keep

>>32654105
i think it has a giant shot trap around the entire turret ring. that tank is a suicide booth.

>>32654105
An attempt to further upgrade the increasingly obsolete T-72. Better ERA coverage, probably T-14 electronics, but still a T-72 underneath.

So what's new here? Syrian skirt around the turret? Better than nothing I guess.

>>32654136
You mean like every western tank?

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>>32654214
it iss a T-90SM for the Russia Army
more powerful 1200 hp engine
new FCS
new autoloader that can load longer APFSDS
automatic transmission
reverse camera for driver

Relikt ERA: using 4S23 explosive panel and, it can be trigger before the round hit the ERA.

TC thermal cam and RCW

>>32654136
hey gaylord, that angle is made from era.
It's not going to sit there while a round hits it, its going to explode (not deflecting the round downward)

>>32654265
>it can be trigger before the round hit the ERA
What? how exactly does this work?

>>32654363
active protection systems, heard of it?

>>32654388
>APS will magically protect the tank from every single thing ever fired at it ever!

Then what's the point of having armor at all?

>>32654363
APS.

Detects something of X amount of speed and size and triggers.

It's been a thing for a while now.

>>32654394
>It's been a thing for a while now.

There's only one APS that's ever been used in combat.

>>32654388
>>32654394
thats what i thought it might be. so every piece of ERA is wired up then yeah? thats pretty mad. better than their other aps

>>32654393
>APS will magically protect the tank from every single thing ever fired at it ever!

I didn't say that so I'm not going to be insulted further and reply to it.

>>32654404

Just answer my question, cuck.

>>32654403
>so every piece of ERA is wired up then yeah?

No.

>>32654393
There's also this magical thing called autoloader. It loads the shells all by itself! So you won't need a negro doing that manually like it's 1916.

>>32654417
answer why you need armour? Because frag, burrets etc. can't all be met with APS intervention. APS is reserved for threats which are likely to kill the tank if not adressed like ATGMs.

>>32654465

The piece of information you're lacking here is that APS isn't a magical shield that kills everything that you shoot at the tank.

>>32654484
>The piece of information you're lacking here is that APS isn't a magical shield that kills everything that you shoot at the tank.
>Because frag, burrets etc. can't all be met with APS intervention.

>reading is hard!

>>32654490

It's time for you to stop posting. It was amusing at first, but this has suddenly veered into an extreme form of autism and I'm not entertained anymore.

>>32654490
>tanks can be killed by rifle bullets

What's the point of posting trash like this?

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>>32654500
>What's the point of posting trash like this?

this is basically just a rifle bullet and it would kill many a tank if hit in the right place. Also, they have 20mm AT rifle in syria which also can kill a T-72.

>>32654518

What's the point of posting trash like this?

>>32654136
Is shot trap even a concern with APFSDS? The rod can't take much lateral force

>>32654530
no, it's actually a good strategy for defeating it, especially if it's one of them segmented LRPs

>>32654534
Rockets however can be deflected right into the turret ring before the HEAT charge goes off.

The fuck is with these hatred for ruskie armanent in every threads?

Why do fatniks get so butthurt at tank upgrade?

These seem more like sensible and cheap upgrades compared to the billions blown into the F-35.

>>32654545
Vatnik shills poisoned the well.

Same exact thing with chinese equipment.

>>32654561
thats probably because

the chinese just seem to rip off everything, it's either of soviet design or western design.

They have no experience and their chain of command fucks them.

So, so much "china stronk" propaganda it's hard to tell if anything on paper is as it's written or is inflated to be competitive with the rest of the world.

lastly,
Made In China.

They have no experience

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>>32654518
>6 times larger than a rifle round
>30 times the penetrating power of a rifle round

That's 'basically a rifle round' just like pic related is basically an autocannon round

>>32654105
Looks like yet another excuse for Russia not to build the T-14 and just churn out T-90SMS++++ for the rest of the century

I bet American military are quaking in their boots. Side log can defend against depleted uranium sabot with ease.

>>32654802
Its a modernisation of older T-90s, not new production.
Excluding T-14s, Russia hasn't received a new production tank for 2 years now.

>>32654941
Since 2011.

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The fact they need a new T-90 proves the Armata is shit.
The fact they need a new T-90 proves the old T-90 was shit.
This is shit too.

The 10+ models of T-80
The ~9 models of T90
And now the Armata
They all face the Abrams and the Leopard since the 80s. You'd think even the Russians could get it right once if they had so many tries. But they keep failing and they keep have to designing new tanks.

>>32654960
>Modernization is because tanks are shit
t.retard

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>>32654960

>>32654969
>presenting the back of your turret to ATGMs

What did they expect?

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>>32654960
>At first i was like...
But then.

>>32654397
Drozd was in A-stan in the 80s.

>>32654616
Why does it have sabot?

What's the difference between it and the T-90MS?

>>32654985
>>32654969
>>32654967
You can almost smell the butthurt. You can't though, because it's too cold in Siberia.

>>32654960
>They all face the Abrams and the Leopard
Nope, they all faced the ATGMs and IEDs.

>>32654265
>using 4S23 explosive panel and, it can be trigger before the round hit the ERA.

bullshit

>>32654545
>uses fatniks as if it aint misused every chance given
>asks what is wrong with this thread
you are what is wrong with this board

Looks pretty good, power to weight is quite high. Frontal armor looks exceptional aside from the LFP. Side armor still looks weak as on all Russian MBT.

Vatnik Reporting 0/

the T-90 looks to me like an upgraded T-72 and a Prapaganda tool.

On a side note it probobly has better electronics then the F-35

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>>32654430

The Abrams was designed with a Negro loader because the institution of slavery is part of the American heritage and the armed services are all about MUH HERITAGE.

>>32655629

>Fatniks

>Misused

/k/ is basically one large Fatnik hive. He isn't wrong.

>>32654545
>he fuck is with these hatred for ruskie armanent in every threads

It's not hatred it's just we are tired of shill brigades coming on here. /pol/ got taken over by them.

It is a T-90 with the T-14's ERA and commander's sight/RWS, and the new engine being used in T-72B3.

It lacks hard kill APS.

>>32655990
>>32656008
That delicious asshurt.

>>32654136
>shot traps
>post 1950

>>32654545
F-35 analogies do not work very well when this is a result of Russia no longer being able to buy T-14's in the desired quantity.

>>32654598
Go fuck your sister , you inbred fuck. You gotta have double digit IQ to post here.

>>32654105

Funny thing

They gave its armor specs against KE and CE on state television.

>>32654994

That's MPAT

It's a 105mm caliber projectile with a 120mm SABOT; it flies a lot faster than typical full bore 120mm, which helps with hitting moving targets past 2 km

>>32654393
Dude, use your fucking brain and figure it out

>>32654388

It'll do little against APFSDS

The ERA will work against such, though.

>>32654561
I've been here for years and I never remember any vatnik explosion. I remember how fatniks in F-35 threads would go and shit up Russian threads with shitposting.

>>32656147
>CHINA WILL NOT GROW LARGA

>>32654960
I want whatever you're smoking because it must be good

Skinny Sala loving Fatnik reporting 0/

We are garbage bag poor but we managed to defend The only tollarant faith known to human history.

Check

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>>32656093
>fatnik proudly displaying his autism

>>32654969

I wouldn't use that as evidence of Vatnik superiority

The T-90MS in this thread, has 500 CE protection across the entire sides, so AT-5 will penetrate it all the same.

And that's comparing the most modern Russian gear to an early 80s Leo 2

>>32656008
>i was so butthurt because i was rightfully called vatnik all the time, i pulled the standard NO YOU vatnik and came up with fatnik
>i force it since this day, always pretending it aint forced or it aint basically only me using it

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>>32656212
>I've been here for years and I never remember any vatnik explosion
Of course you wouldn't, seeing as how you were most likely part of it.

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>>32656263
T-90MS got soft kill APS though

German are developing new softkill and hard kill APS but no one adopted them

pic related is the ADS hardkill APS, its concept is similar to Relikt ERA

>>32655629
Fatnik, does that piss you off?

>>32656342

>soft kill APS

It won't matter with flank hits.

From the front, it'll decrease the chance of wire guided missiles hitting.

>>32654960
So the M1A2, SEP and TUSK proves that the M1A1 is shit?
And Leo2 A1 - A7 proves that it is shit too?

CA
CA
TЬ

>>32656385
Which is entirely dependent on the specific missile and specific soft kill APS.

Shtora works great on Soviet missiles but has no known intercepts of western missiles.

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>>32656255
>autist calls someone else an autist

>>32656342
>its concept is similar to Relikt ERA

No, it isn't.

>>32654105
No matter what you call it, it's still a T-72

>>32656614
Afaik, during the greek tank tenders it did mess with the itow. But yeah, its usefulness in modern warfare is overrated. Except against sandniggers

>>32656212
>I've been here for years and I never remember any vatnik explosion.
Good one.
>I remember how fatniks in F-35 threads would go and shit up Russian threads with shitposting.
Beside this sentence not making much sense: If you seriously think "fatniks" are the problem and not the never ending stream of "F-35 has a single screeching screw, lets start another thread about it! Plane is shit through this." garbage, then you are just part of the problem itself.