>apparently best rifle ever >no last round hold open

it stays open after the last case is thrown out

>>32630892
>>apparently best rifle ever
>>no last round hold open
Pick one.

ur mom

>>32630899
My point is I'm defutiating the fact that it is saposedly the best rifle ever

>>32630904
Well apparently your mouth only has a last round hold open when it's being loaded with bbc

>>32630909
That's uncalled for

>>32630892

K98 does have a last round hold open though.

>>32630892
Some Mausers do have last round hold open, some don't. IMO they're better without it since that makes it easier to load single shots.

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>>32630892
It's not a semiautomatic. Holding open also ejects the final casing. You have to pull it open to eject the last casing so you can load more bullets.

>>32630904
You should stop reading NRA's American Rifleman, Online Blog Edition.

>>32630892
>cycle bolt
>shoot 5th round
>pull bolt open as final round ejects
>bolt is now open
>insert stripper clip
>close bolt
>continue shooting
The men that used it were fine with it and didn't need any special accommodations like yourself.

>>32631076
>>32631177
This. Are hold-opens on bolt-actions seriously a thing?

>>32631192
There are plenty of bolts that do it, hell even some mausers do it. Is it a necessity? No not really, just because they're not 100% like OPs Scout Lite (Tm) he thinks they're useless.

>>32631192
The internal mag pops up and you have to either load more or push it down to close the bolt on quite a few bolt actions

Are there any Mauser variants, aside from the German produced ones, that have the front of the receiver(?) and rear sight exposed?

>>32630925
>IMO they're better without it since that makes it easier to load single shots.
nope. just press one in the mag, or at least press the base of the cartridge under a feed lip. throwing a round in the chamber is a no-no in a controlled feed firearm.

>>32631330
Except the mauser extractor was always designed to lip over the cartridge. It was originally a single shot rifle after all, and some variants even had a mag cutoff.

>>32631357
originally a single shot rifle as in the mauser 71? that's a completely different design though, practically the only similarity is the flag safety and to some extent the striker/cocking assembly

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>>32630892
The Kar.98k does have a last-round hold-open. It was a feature first introduced with the Spanish Model 1893.

>>32631315
They're all going to be variants/copies of the Gew.98 (Polish W.98/Wz.98a, Czech Vz.98, Paraguayan M1907, Peruvian M1909) or the Kar.98k (Czech Vz.98N, FN M1950). The longer handguard is what Paul Mauser wanted on his rifles, and most countries were smart enough to realize that he knew better than they did about how to make a good rifle.

>>32631357
>Except the mauser extractor was always designed to lip over the cartridge.
Not the large non-rotating claw extractor introduced in 1892, no.
>It was originally a single shot rifle after all
No; all the models with the large claw extractor were designed and manufactured as repeaters.
>and some variants even had a mag cutoff.
One variant: the Ottoman Model 1893. No-one else ever requested the feature again, not even the Turks.

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>last round hold open
>a good thing on bolt actions

Pls no

I have PTSD from my old Mossberg MVP that used AR mags and had a last round hold open... except a top rail with poorly machined edges prevented you from sticking your finger in the action to depress the follower.

Fuck that gun, thank fuck it was a gift.

>>32630892
>bolt action
>complains about no bho
Not sure if serious.

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>there are people ITT right now who don't own a mauser.

Why is mauser better than smle?

>>32631956
It isn't.

>>32631970
>>32631956
Apologies, it's not better than the No4mk1. It is better than the No1mk3.

>>32630904
>defutiating
That's not a word

>>32630892
>OP faggot
>OP can't count to five
buy 1 get 1 free, this friday only.

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My M38 has a last round hold open
Checkmate, Wehraboos

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>>32631933
I pity those who will never know such joy.

>>32631933
I used to own a K98k. It was meh. There are much simpler and stronger bolt action designs out there. I don't get the hard on for Mausers.
>>32631956
It's not.
>>32631981
I think the SMLE is better than the Mauser action.

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>>32632251
In the SMLE vs mauser I guess it all boils down to aesthetics - the mauser just looks like a sexy rifle, the smle looks like a fucking club; the rest is pretty much the same, if you don't care about capacity, which I actually do

>>32632251
the mauser action is inherently stronger and more accurate tho, but for a combat rifle idk I guess the SMLE can shoot faster and has more capacity than most mausers so i'll give you that
>>32632268
I think SMLEs look cool, but I understand why people would think the full length stock and nosecap is ugly as fuck

>>32630892
>no last round hold open

That's where you're wrong kiddo, my 1938 S/27 has last round hold open.

>>32630892
You are an idiot. The follower stops the bolt on an umodified M98 action rifle.
>>32630925
You are an idiot too. The M98 action is designed to feed only from the magazine.

>>32632251
>There are much simpler and stronger bolt action designs out there
I have my 1940s Mauser converted to .338 Win Mag. please tell me what other bolt actions of the period that are strong enough to do that. not saying there aren't, just curious to know which ones were.

>>32630925
RIP in pieces claw extractor.

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>>32630892
swap one in, or mod it

>>32632297
>stronger
Maybe a little.
>more accurate
Not with those horrible G98 sights. Though, the SMLE's rather light barrel doesn't help in that regard.
>>32632369
>please tell me what other bolt actions of the period that are strong enough to do that.
Most contemporary designs are strong enough except for the Krag and maybe Enfield.
The French gunsmith Jean Fournier made some MAS-36s in 10.75x68mm and 8X60mm S. I need one of those.
Some 1950s bubba rechambered a Japanese Type 38 Arisaka to .30-06 but didn't rebarrel it.

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>>32630892
>OP is nogunz
>OP posts on /k/

git da fuck out

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>he doesnt own a mauser pattern

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>tfw you can't count to five

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>>32632305
>The follower stops the bolt on an umodified M98 action rifle.
Not on the original Gew.98, or most of the foreign-contract military M98 models. It really only became a thing for ze Germans between the wars.

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The poor is strong in this thread

>>32632437
>MAS-36
it has a big bolt, but idk about calling it stronger than a Mauser. it has 2 locking lugs to the Mauser's 3 fairly large lugs, and the MAS-36 are rear lugs, which rely on the bridge of the action.

>10.75x68mm and 8X60mm S
these are Mauser cartridges, so it's at least in the ball park, but still not seeing how it's stronger.

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>>32632671
>lets change that

>>32632369
>converted to .338
Jackass fudd

>>32630916
Welcome to 4chan

I've always wanted one but non-Russian Captures are just too spendy for me.

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>>32633032
then get a Vz24

>>32630892
it's a bolt action rifle, you fucking retard. it doesn't need one

>>32632674
>it has a big bolt, but idk about calling it stronger than a Mauser.
I never called it stronger than a Mauser, although I wouldn't be surprised.

>it has 2 locking lugs to the Mauser's 3 fairly large lugs,
The Mle-1936's locking lugs are really big and are in a huge chunk of metal. The Mauser only has 2 locking lugs. The third safety lug doesn't do anything other than appease the German purchasing committee.

>and the MAS-36 are rear lugs, which rely on the bridge of the action.
There is a lot more metal in a Mle-1936 receiver than a Mauser's. The hatered of rear locking lugs are unfounded imho.

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>>32630904
except a k98 has a last round hold open, you need to know about what you are talking about brfore you start spouting off about it

>>32633068
>I never called it stronger than a Mauser
I guess not, but my request was for examples of rifles of that period which you felt were stronger than a Mauser.

>The Mle-1936's locking lugs are really big and are in a huge chunk of metal
not really. MAS-36 lugs are about the same size, if not smaller, than the front lugs on a Mauser. the bolt is only 0.160" or so bigger than the Mauser.

>The third safety lug doesn't do anything
except add even more lug surface for the purpose of fail-over. again, we are talking about 60k psi plus cartridges that are taking these early 20th century actions to the max (i.s. .338 win mag, .333 OKH, .35 Whelen).

>The hatered of rear locking lugs are unfounded imho.
it turns the bolt into a lever, loading one lug with more pressure than the other, and hurts accuracy.

>>32632251
>I think the SMLE is better than the Mauser action
There is more to a rifle than just the action, and there is more than one Mauser action. You wouldn't say a Viper is better than a Corvette just because it has a better motor.

>>32631933
I don't like Mausers desu, I might buy a Spanish Mauser in .308 but I prefer my Ishapore 2A1.

>>32633413
You're right, the Snek is better than the Corvette in almost every conceivable way!

>>32633317
>I guess not, but my request was for examples of rifles of that period which you felt were stronger than a Mauser.
I actually do feel as the Mle-1936 is stronger than the Mauser (in the very least it's just as strong), but there is no data on the subject. I also posted about the Type 38, which I do know is stronger than the Mauser. Mostly because it is actually designed to vent gas, and not in the shoehorned way the Mauser does it. It also doesn't have the left locking lug cut through for the ejector either.

>except add even more lug surface for the purpose of fail-over.
There is zero surface from the safety lug. It does not contact the receiver at all. It's just a meme to get the German military to bite. Kinda like the gas seal on the Nagant revolvers. Totally useless, but it got the Russians to bite.

And locking lugs shearing off is extremely rare. You'll have a ton of things happen before that will happen.

>it turns the bolt into a lever, loading one lug with more pressure than the other, and hurts accuracy.
Lolwut? Locking lugs are made for them all to contact the receiver the same. It'll have the same accuracy as the Mauser with it's two locking lugs. Locking lugs can effect accuracy. It's why the AR-15's star shaped locking lugs are actually really good. It supports it evenly all over.

>>32630920
What's a k98

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>>32633530
>Totally useless, but it got the Russians to bite.
It's not useless at all; pushing the cylinder over the forcing cone forces the cylinder to correctly index even if the pawl is worn and the cylinder out-of-time.

>>32633556
A post-WW1 Polish copy of the Kar.98AZ.

>>32633638
>someone who actually knows what a k98 is
Fug

>>32631956
controlled feed. front locking lugs. third safety lug. fires rimless cartridges

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>>32633694
SMLE is controlled-feed too.

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>>32630892

>>32632251
>and stronger bolt action designs out there
like what

>>32632437
>Not with those horrible G98 sights. Though, the SMLE's rather light barrel doesn't help in that regard.
the 98 action is inherently more accurate due to the front lucking lugs
whether that accuracy can be utilized with the sub par sights is another matter

>>32633709
The Type 99, the P14/m1917, the Ross.

>>32633068
>The Mauser only has 2 locking lugs. The third safety lug doesn't do anything other than appease the German purchasing committee.

they all contact their locking surfaces at the same time

>>32633638
True, but it makes the gun hard to shoot double action. Any properly designed revolver won't have timing issues.
>>32633694
None of those matters except for the rimless cartridge. And the SMLE is controlled feed.
>>32633709
Scroll down. Type 38 is probably the best one that comes to mind.
>>32633738
I don't buy that front locking lugs help on accuracy. I can see when it's like a tilting bolt, but not with the opposing lugs.

>>32633756
No, they don't. Only the forward locking lugs contact the receiver.

>>32633702
i dont think so. can you post a picture of your Enfield bolt?

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>>32633756
>they all contact their locking surfaces at the same time
Go get your Mauser 98, open the bolt, and use a Sharpie to mark the back of the lug recess for the safety lug with a little ink. Now cycle your bolt a few times, pull it out, and look at the contact surface of the safety lug. You won't find any ink on the safety lug.

>>32633772
>None of those matters except for the rimless cartridge. And the SMLE is controlled feed.
front locking lugs certainly make a difference
>Scroll down. Type 38 is probably the best one that comes to mind.
true. i cant believe i forgot about that rifle. i have one. the left locking lug not being cut all the way through is a big selling point
>I don't buy that front locking lugs help on accuracy. I can see when it's like a tilting bolt, but not with the opposing lugs.
thats one of the reasons that the Swiss changed from rear lucking lugs on the K11 to the front locking lugs on the K31. not only to shorten the action, but because it is stronger and more accurate

>>32633826
Rear locking lugs actually make the bolt throw shorter. It's the overly long Schmidt design that made the bolt so long.

>>32633804
>You won't find any ink on the safety lug.
meaning the safety lug is making contact with its locking recess

>>32633998
No.
https://youtu.be/WrpcpdwEfPk

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>>32633530
>I also posted about the Type 38, which I do know is stronger than the Mauser
considering it's basically a simplified Mauser, I can maybe give you that, but the chamber has a notch cut out of it, which leaves the case web unsupported. while the action MAY be stronger, it can't be used for the cartridges we are discussing.

>And locking lugs shearing off is extremely rare
generally not in a Mauser. you'd probably have to flex the receiver enough to cause a lug to slip past. thankfully there is a 3rd lug in the back...
I still don't see where you've provided anything stronger in that respect.

>There is zero surface from the safety lug. It does not contact the receiver at all
it does in the event of failure, making it a more advantageous platform for pushing performance limits.

>Locking lugs are made for them all to contact the receiver the same
receivers flex. rear lugs provide the bolt as a lever, creating a yaw force inside the receiver.

>>32634156
im just saying, if you mark the rear of a locking lug and after working the action the mark is gone, something made contact with it and wore it off.

>>32634239
>considering it's basically a simplified Mauser, I can maybe give you that, but the chamber has a notch cut out of it, which leaves the case web unsupported. while the action MAY be stronger, it can't be used for the cartridges we are discussing.
The standard 98 Mauser doesn't have a fully supported case head. Hence the "Safety breech" design that the Yugos used. The Japanese Type 38 and 99 also have a similar bolt face design.

>generally not in a Mauser. you'd probably have to flex the receiver enough to cause a lug to slip past. thankfully there is a 3rd lug in the back...
Most modern bolt action rifles are based on the 98 Mauser and yet don't have a safety lug. It's useless.

>it does in the event of failure, making it a more advantageous platform for pushing performance limits.
Which won't ever happen if it's properly designed.

>receivers flex. rear lugs provide the bolt as a lever, creating a yaw force inside the receiver.
The force is going backwards, not side to side. If it flexes it will flex on both locking lugs.

>>32634156
I just did this >>32633804
with my 4 digit serial number post war FN Mauser. it smeared the ink on the rear lug, when I used an actual cartridge. if you care enough, I can make a youtube video of it, actually firing it. prob be saturday or sunday

>>32634365
>The standard 98 Mauser doesn't have a fully supported case head
you're complaining it doesn't enclose the rim? completely different than the issue with the Type 38.

>Most modern bolt action rifles are based on the 98 Mauser and yet don't have a safety lug
what is chromoly steel? 98 was designed in the age of nickel steel.

>Which won't ever happen if it's properly designed
the Mauser is, I'm asking for examples of period designs with superior strength.

>The force is going backwards, not side to side
nothing is perfect, especially military production rifles. lugs don't engage evenly, right off the production line.

>If it flexes it will flex on both locking lugs.
so, gunsmiths lapping locking lugs and squaring bolt faces is just snake oil?

>>32634535
>you're complaining it doesn't enclose the rim? completely different than the issue with the Type 38.
If someone wanted to make an action they could always rebarrel one. Doesn't matter anyhow, it's still probably the strongest military bolt action ever fielded.

>what is chromoly steel? 98 was designed in the age of nickel steel.
And yet, even with that nickel steel, you don't ever see a rifle that has sheared locking lugs. It never was needed, but it was a way to get the retarded German military brass to sign on to it. These were the same people that wanted a safety on a revolver.

>the Mauser is, I'm asking for examples of period designs with superior strength.
I already did post better designs. My whole point wasn't that the Mauser isn't strong, it's that it's nothing as the lovers that fawn over it claim it to be. The only reason why the action got all around the world was because of the marketing and business strategy of Paul Mauser and DWM. And Development stopped in 1898, not because they developed the best action in the world, but because it got adopted by the German military. That was the whole point of the development.

>nothing is perfect, especially military production rifles. lugs don't engage evenly, right off the production line.
There is a reason why the bolts were numbered.

>so, gunsmiths lapping locking lugs and squaring bolt faces is just snake oil?
Mostly.

>>32632268
Aesthetics are entirely subjective

My dad's K98 has a bolt hold open. Was it something that was added to later-production models or something?

>>32634749
>If someone wanted to make an action they could always rebarrel one
isn't the notch so it can feed though? is our goal single shot?

>it's still probably the strongest military bolt action ever fielded.
not even close.

>And yet, even with that nickel steel, you don't ever see a rifle that has sheared locking lugs.
on what? rifles with stock chamberings? Mausers were used for load development on the exact cartridges that I'm talking about, and for good reason. what I'm looking from you, is examples of something else capable of same or better. so far you've produced a MAS-36, which pushed its own limits by shooting stock Mauser cartridges, and a Nip Mauser rip-off with an unsupported chamber.

>There is a reason why the bolts were numbered.
yeah, head space...

>Mostly
*facepalm

>>32630892
makes about as much sense as putting a last round hold open on a revolver pistol.
seriously wtf?

>>32635122
>isn't the notch so it can feed though? is our goal single shot?
The notch is for the extractor.

>not even close.
I'm not considering shit like the T-Gewehr or the Wz. 35.

>Mausers were used for load development on the exact cartridges that I'm talking about, and for good reason
They are used because people think they are the best and people think they are the best because they were used all over the world, but they were used all over the world because of marketing and nothing more. Just because Mausers are popular doesn't make them the best.

>what I'm looking from you, is examples of something else capable of same or better. so far you've produced a MAS-36, which pushed its own limits by shooting stock Mauser cartridges
Those cartridges are nothing but "stock." Those are African big game rounds.
>and a Nip Mauser rip-off with an unsupported chamber.
It's chamber is supported. It doesn't have the coned breech like the M1903.

>yeah, head space...
Headspace is also an overblown meme that very few truly understands. How often do I hear of someone's problem and immediate someone will mention headspace. If a rifle blows it, someone will say that it's an headspace issue. Or if the spent cases are bulged it's headspace. In most cases it's not, but very few understand it.

>*facepalm
It is mostly snake oil. These are also the people that jewel bolts and lap the rifling. They have to justify the high cost of their work. Same reason why sports cars have all these do dads in them.

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>>32634834
All Kar.98k had a bolt stop on the follower. OP is idiot.

>>32634297
You mark the interior of the lug space on the receiver, not the lug itself.

>>32631192

Soldiers were trained to cycle the action without lowering the rifle from the shoulder or taking their eyes off the target. Thus, having a hold open prevents a soldier from closing the bolt on an empty chamber unknowingly.

Since most controlled round feed firearms only feed from the magazine, and loading of military mausers at that time was performed exclusively with clips, there are only pluses to this system

>>32631357

Anon pls, you can Google these things in 5 seconds, if you slam the bolt home on a loose round in most CRF rifles you're going to fuck your case head or extractor or both

>>32631970
>>32631981
>>32632251
>>32632268

The Enfield action is shit compared to the Mauser in terms of strength, adaptability, lock time, striker mechanism, safety and potential for accuracy. I love me some Lee Enfield and think they were better combat rifles as issued, but to say they're superior is just wrong. They're considered obsolete for a reason.

>>32635507
Lock time? The Enfield is much, much faster. It has a 60 degree bolt throw, not a 90 degree like every other bolt action design.

There isn't anything wrong with the striker either.

>>32630904
>defutiating
what did he mean by this

>>32635507
I have shot both for decades and never have I once thought "if only this Enfield action was stronger" or "if only the striker mechanism was better"

You're going after something that's an irrelevance. I won't even get started on the accuracy comment, it's meaningless.

>>32632437

>maybe a little

Dude

Dude

It's not safe to convert a .303 Enfield to use commercial .308, let alone one of the belted magnums. The actions aren't strong at all by modern standards.

The only WWI/WWII actions you'd do this with would be large ring mausers, 1917/p14's, and arisakas.

>>32635532

Lock time is the amount of time that it takes for the rifle to ignite the primer once the trigger has been pulled, not the amount of time it takes to cycle the action.

>>32635300
I'll give you the Type 38. googling around I found "Hatcher's Notebook". it's a pretty fucking awesome read so far. it includes a Type 38 being rebarreled to .338 Win Mag, and tested to destruction. it also defends the Type 38 having a well supported case head. why I had to find this for you is frustrating though.

http://sin.thecthulhu.com/library/weapons/hatchers_notebook.pdf

> Just because Mausers are popular doesn't make them the best
that may have been a factor, but Arisaka availability was enough post war that if a huge strength difference was found, that would have been what was used. I'd probably accept mistrust of Nip steel or blatant racism as a better reason than availability.

>Headspace is also an overblown meme
pls stop. I just helped you out, and now you're going full retard. bad head space results in blown cases. it's the exact reason why bolts are matched to barrels.

>These are also the people that jewel bolts and lap the rifling
did I mention jewling? did I argue that as an accuracy advantage? no. having squared lugs and a squared bolt face is a good thing.

>>32635564
The Ross and maybe the M95 Mannlicher would be strong enough as well.

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>>32635507
>think they were better combat rifles as issued, but to say they're superior is just wrong

>>32635564
>It's not safe to convert a .303 Enfield to use commercial .308
That's is 100% FALSE. Stop following the retarded fudds that suggest that .308 is wildly hotter than 7.62NATO. It's not. That has been proven false ever since those retards kept spewing it and yet it still pops up. Just because you read Wikipedia doesn't make you smart. It just so happens the .308 measurement was measured with a piezoelectric guage and the 7.62NATO measurement was the older measurement made with a crushed copper disk. Just because they both gave readings in PSI doesn't mean that they are interchangeable anyhow.

>The only WWI/WWII actions you'd do this with would be large ring mausers, 1917/p14's, and arisakas.
I just posted another type of action, that wasn't a Mauser derivative, that was chambered in similar rounds.

>>32635550

I like shooting my Enfield. If I was an infantryman in WWII and had a choice between a K98 and an SMLE I would grab the Enfield without a second thought. They are fine rifles, and in my opinion the best bolt action infantry rifle ever issued, although I'm not familiar with all of them.

If I had a choice between two stripped actions from which I could build a new rifle, one which would fill a relevant niche today - precision and hunting - the Mauser is demonstrably superior in every respect.

>>32635564
This is anecdotal, but what isn't.

In nearly a half century of military and civilian shooting, I have never seen an Enfield action fail. It's perfectly strong for what it was designed to do, and it does it very well. Enfield actions warp under very high pressures, but the rear never fails.

As far as I know, Ross rifles have incredibly strong actions (125,000 PSI and up) but I'd hardly call it a world class design.

>>32635615
I've read Hatcher's Notebook.

>that may have been a factor, but Arisaka availability was enough post war that if a huge strength difference was found, that would have been what was used. I'd probably accept mistrust of Nip steel or blatant racism as a better reason than availability.
I'm not talking about just Arisakas.

>pls stop. I just helped you out, and now you're going full retard. bad head space results in blown cases. it's the exact reason why bolts are matched to barrels.

Read the chapter on Headspace. He'll show you how wrong you are. Your typical bolt action rifle will have a smoothbore barrel long before headspace is excessive.

>did I mention jewling? did I argue that as an accuracy advantage? no. having squared lugs and a squared bolt face is a good thing.
Again, it's mostly to justify the high price tag. It's just like those hot rodders that will spend $5000 to get 3 more horsepower out of their engine.

>>32635677

I didn't say it was weak for its intended purpose at all. I was replying to a poster that was suggesting an Enfield could be rechambered to .338 Winchester Magnum. I suspect one would witness an Enfield action fail in very short order if they were to try this.

>>32635697
>I'm not talking about just Arisakas.
so far you've only mentioned the MAS-36, with nothing other than muh 22mm bolt. so?

>Your typical bolt action rifle will have a smoothbore barrel long before headspace is excessive
throat erosion is not headspace. you're the one which is mistaken. in bottle-neck cases that don't headspace on the rim, headspace is the distance from the bolt face to the cut in the chamber for the shoulder. put a different bolt in a rifle, and that distance is different. too much, the case stretches and splits/separates, too little, and you can't close the bolt.

>It's just like those hot rodders that will spend $5000 to get 3 more horsepower out of their engine.
no, it puts yaw on the bolt. front lugs deal with this better, which is why nobody uses rear lugs anymore in anything which they care about accuracy. a rear locking bolt, is why shit like 1895 Marlins are a fully enclosed receiver, and why open top 1886 Winchesters will blow the bolt in to your face if you run the pressure too high.

>>32635771
>I was replying to a poster that was suggesting an Enfield could be rechambered to .338 Winchester Magnum.
I never suggested that at all. I have no doubt it would hold for a little bit, but I doubt it will last long.

>throat erosion is not headspace. you're the one which is mistaken.
That's not what I was meaning. I'm meaning that regular shooting will make that barrel smoothbore long before the headspace got out of whack.

>in bottle-neck cases that don't headspace on the rim, headspace is the distance from the bolt face to the cut in the chamber for the shoulder.
I know what it is.

>put a different bolt in a rifle, and that distance is different. too much, the case stretches and splits/separates, too little, and you can't close the bolt.
Yes, that may happen, but ultimately unlikely it would be that far off with even late 19th century manufacturing capabilities. Most would throw out ones really off. I know the British kept some around and did make rifles with them, but they kept them marked differently.

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>>32632369
>looks like another one to the bubb'd / fudded cringe folder

nice one dipshit

>>32632369
>converted to .338 winmag

TAKE ME OUT TO THE BACK OF THE SHED

SHOOT ME IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD

>>32637693
>>32639361

Do you guys realize how many mauser builds/bubbas/stripped actions are already out there?

If the works been done already, a Mauser in .338 sounds pretty good to me.

>>32630892
Wow op I hate mausers now