what are some good gray man edc/bob backpacks? I am looking for

>>32594916
Go look at camping stores and pick up a hiking pack that has what you want.

In future look for one of these threads so you dont clog up the board.
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>>32594916
Goruck GR1. Also, "gray man" is a retarded concept. Wear jeans and a t-shirt and you'll blend in fine

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>>32595095
>velcro
>molle

Lol yeah totally not suspicious.

>>32595322
I'm not even that anon, but I came to this thread specifically to post GoRuck. Look at the 10L Bullet they make, I carry it erryday and no one looks twice.

>>32594916
Jesus Christus. If you need /k/ to tell you what a civilian bag in a neutral color looks like, then you need some help.

>>32595095
Someone already fucked it up, here is not the place for advice.

Go ask /out/ or a better forum for a good, medium hiking pack and 3/5 times you'll be able to get that bag in a neutral color.

>>32595409

how about you go fuck yourself, i am not looking for a civilian bag, I want molle attachment for my multitool and mags and edc inserts in the interior, which your shitty medium hiking pack doesn't have.

>>32595322
>>molle

Dude my fucking laptop bag had molle on it. That shit caught on in the civilian sector.

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>>32595322
even osprey makes backpacks with MOLLE on them now, its not weird to see.
>>32595623
buy inserts then.

>>32595623
Civvie bags don't have molle. It adds unnecessary weight and production cost. Molle is also nearly impossible to hide so any bag you get wit it is going to be high profile.

Just get a hiking bag and build a belt rig for your dress up fantasies.

>>32595693

i said go fuck yourself off my thread, molle on the inside lets me hold my mags and light without fumbling like some 10 year old with a jansport, go fuck off poorfag.

>>32594916
Literally anything sold in stores that doesn't look an autistic attempt at being "covert" and isn't covered in fucking molle webbing.

Side note has anyone ever actually seen one person with molle on a civvy pack have anything attached?

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>>32595772

How about you fuck off you autist, I already said civie stuff have no holster inserts and lack compartmentization to carry stuff.

>>32595772
I was on a long train ride and a guy had a 3 day pack with like 8 MOLLE pouches on it and a back frame to make it a hiking pack.

Outside of hikers and campers I doubt normies even know what MOLLE is or care if there is MOLLE on something.

I venture you could mod a pack with pouches and nobody except former military or ktards could tell.

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>"grey man"

because paranoid prepper internet-ninjas are literally so disconnected they need a video on how to dress and act like a normal fucking person.

>>32596698

this

>going out of your way to look inconspicuous

Is not understanding what "gray man" means the newest dan/k/ meme?

>>32596743

some prepper concept where you try to look like the most average person so nobody can recognize you or recall you from memory or sum shit

complete horseshit, nobody is thinking about you when you're not in the room

>>32594916
You should have asked in your first thread >>32571201

>>32595772
They're like truckfags, they go out of their way to get something designed for hauling and proceed to haul air 99.99℅ of the time. Might as well drive a car and rent a truck when you "need* one.

>>32596773
>complete horseshit, nobody is thinking about you when you're not in the room

Yep, it's a common cognitive bias to think otherwise though.

>The spotlight effect is the phenomenon in which people tend to believe they are being noticed more than they really are. Being that one is constantly in the center of one's own world, an accurate evaluation of how much one is noticed by others has shown to be uncommon. The spotlight effect was first reported in 1999, when Thomas Gilovich and Kenneth Savitsky coined the term.[1] The reasoning behind the spotlight effect comes from innate tendency to forget that although one is the center of one's own world, one is not the center of everyone else's.

>>32594916
https://www.haleystrategic.com/haley-strategic-flatpack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOlu9mbCrxY

>>32596698
Best definition yet.

>>32595095
shit bag is SHIT

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As others have said, MOLLE is normal as fuck yesterday. Go to a normal store that sells backpacks and like half the shit there has MOLLE etc. I see normies wearing pseudo-tacticool Oakley bags on a daily basis.

The only things I'd truly avoid are tan/FDE and standard multicam. Both make you look like you just got off deployment. The same bags in black or in non-issue camo schemes are totally passable as normie bags, though. I have a Vanquest camera bag in Multicam Black and the only attention it's ever gotten was in the form of complements and people asking where they could get one like it. I've even been around some of my /k/ommando friends and they didn't realize it was a "tactical" bag until I said so.

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>>32595623
>>32595745
it doesn't exist and you're being a turbofaggot. Get a regular bag or a camera bag and then put an insert in it

>>32596698
And even that doesnt really work, just look at OP's autism in yhis thread.

>"ok, so the concept is to not stick out and use cover of blending in with the general populace of your area as primary tactic."
>"ok, but how do I make that TACTICAL??"
>"no, the concept is to blend in, normal people here don't buy 5.11 bags with MOLLE all over, get a regular good quality backpack or hiking bag if you want some heft"
>"yea, I see, but where am I supposed to put my loadout for when I need to go out there with a rifle and ballistic plates?!"

>>32597410
But YOU noticed, if you were hunting for people to kill and take stuff, would you have gone for a bag with molle or a jansport bag?

>>32594916
Go browse 5.11 or SOG till you find something you like. A lot of gun blogs will do gear review periodically too.

>>32597500
I thought the whole "gray man" thing was about not being singled out as somebody who's carrying on a daily basis in civilized life or in the first hours of an "incident."

If you're talking about some kind of ridiculous DayZ tier post-apocalyptic kill on sight level that's another story. However, I'd still use whatever gear was most functional for purpose and keep myself from being noticed at all. I don't think a Jansport bag is gonna stop somebody from blowing my head off when I've got an AR obviously slung over my shoulder.

>>32597559
>If you're talking about some kind of ridiculous DayZ tier post-apocalyptic kill on sight level that's another story.
no, if society has degraded to that point, it'd be safer if you banded together with others and roved around the country in a Mad Max fashion.

No, it's just a counter thought for all the preppers who somehow thinks the moment society collapses or law enforcement is crippled/absent, that they'll walk out of their house in full battle gear and somehow not be targeted by others who might want some of the valuable loot he has all over his body. Same in a n occupation/invasion scenario that these people love. A handful of guys dressed in full battle rattle is not going to do much against a military. Organized groups with networks is what puts up some fight, and that involves trusting others, which is the anti-fantasy of all these lone wolf people.

>>32595623
Molle is retarded

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>>32595623
> I am looking for something inconspicuous
> i am not looking for a civilian bag, I want molle attachment
choose one

If i were a soldier on a checkpoint, i'd frisk you based on the following indicators:
- camouflage of any kind
- military equipment of any kind (includes molle)
- morale patches
- earth tone colors making up the majority of your clothing
- too much tacticool shit (gearqueer)
- your general impression

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>>32594916

carry a guitar case

this thread is bad and you should feel bad. another thread died so you could make this abortion.

op, you really should kill yourself at your earliest possible convenience.

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>>32594916
Just buy a Victorinox Altmont, you nigger. It has compartments to put all your fedora gear, it looks unsuspicious and stylish, and quality is ok for a civilian product. To go with it, wear some dark blue jeans, sport shoes, a light grey shirt (or white shirt plus black pull over), and you're pretty good to go.

>>32598507
/thread

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>>32598907
>>32598507
>>32597559

You guys are fucking autistic, I am looking for something plain on the outside but has Molle/Velcro to carry guns, quickclots, multi tools and tac lights because I don't want to fumble around in some shitty jansport. Maybe if you weren't so autistic and poor, you'd understand why someone would want this

>>32598507
If you were a soldier at a checkpoint I'd blow your head off with a nugget and run away keking in Vietnamese

>>32594916
I don't fucking get this gray man concept, it's retarded if you ask me.

If SHTF it literally doesn't fucking matter how your pack looks like, doesn't matter if it's military gear queer l33t operator high speed low drag etc. bullshit or a simple hiking pack. It's fucking obvious you are prepared and that you have a bunch of useful stuff in that pack regardless of how it looks.

What's even the point of blending in? To avoid trouble? You won't avoid shit, people who are willing to rob others of their belongings in such a situation won't go after military-looking people who are clearly prepared and dangerous, that's not how it works.

They will go after people who look like they have useful stuff but are not dangerous and overly prepared, so exactly for the kind of people you are trying to pose as.

It's a retarded concept, you can't hide the fact that you are prepared and have a pack full of goodies. The only thing you can hide is the fact that you are able to defend yourself, but why would you? It's a deterrent.

>>32598507
>If i were a soldier on a checkpoint, i'd frisk you based on the following indicators:
If you were a soldier on a checpoint you would frisk everyone and I'm not saying that just because you're a fag.

If you need to get through a checkpoint you already fucked up.

>>32595623
>I am looking for a civilian looking bag that doesn't look civilian
Good luck.

>>32594916
go to REI and look at their daypacks faggot.

>>32594916
just get a vertx like the pic you posted autist

>>32595623
Then that is not fucking grey-man. I always thought it was retarded that some faggots need to be taught what inconspicuous looks like, but apparently some faggots need to be taught what inconspicuous looks like.

>>32595623
if you have to ask about it, its not grey... you autistic prepper-anti-guvmnt cosplayer

>>32594916
what do you want it for hide you powerlevel? If you cant run 2 blocks with a loaded bag you are dead

>>32599621
>it's retarded if you ask me
We didn't

>Go into wal mart
>Buy a backpack
There, easy
>B-But how do I make it TACTICAL? How am I supposed to blend in the crowd if I don't look like some gear queer autist?

If you want to carry a handgun in it get one with a small pouch

>>32595322

What is wrong with Molle backpacks?

>>32599352
>You guys are fucking autistic, I am looking for something plain on the outside but has Molle/Velcro to carry guns I won't use, quickclots I don't know what they're for, multi tools - because one multi tool isn't multi enough - and tac lights (that's flashlights for you peasants) because I cannot keep my junk organized, like the true tier-one operator I aspire to be, in some shitty jansport. Maybe if you weren't so autistic and poor, you'd understand why someone would want this.

The equipment you listed could be carried easily in a fucking plastic bag, you raging homosexual. Just saying.

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Not OP I am looking for a backpack I can take to the range/college, has Molle attachments, has Velcro for patches, and plenty of space for a Laptop.

I am thinking about getting the Condor Venture Pack pic related. If it looks tactical I don't care.

This thread made me about cry laughing. Love my /k/omrades

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>hey /k/ (weapons board) can you recommend me a backpack

>>32597282

100% true

people seem to think that people are thinking about you when you're not in the room

people don't care

>>32596698
>>32596698
>>32596698
>>32596698
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>>32596698

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I've been using a Rush 12 backpack from 5.11 since 2012 as my daily school/work bag. All black but it's covered in molle.

I would look at their Covert backpacks. The seem to be exactly what you're looking for.

>>32596698
This and apparently on /k/ retards think you have to buy gray colored things.

>>32598532
Smart

>>32594916
http://www.511tactical.com/select-carry-sling-pack.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=5.11+Tactical+Select+Carry+Sling+Pack+%28Red%29&utm_campaign=Nylon%2FBags&kpid=844802243988&gclid=CMaUwLLXuNECFUiBswodRiUOKA

>>32594916
What bag you should get really depends on what is around you: match the majority of them. Around me Jansport backpacks are pretty nice and I would try to pass myself off as a high school/college student given campuses are flooded with them. They have a good price, are durable, can be surprisingly roomy/organised. Maybe you live in an area with a lot of muscle-heads so you might want to consider a sports-themed duffel. If you live in a corporate area maybe try for an understated messenger bag or generic looking backpack. You don't have to spend a lot of money to blend. If you are insistent about your bag being a tactical bag you might want to look at one of the Covert/Covrt model backpacks by 5.11 Tactical; video related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BpHvrqjf4

TL;DR: Just look at what other people around you have and find a way to make one of those bags work.

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>>32598532

>>32599621
It isn't really for the average person. Some common LE jobs do require people to blend in and not seem suspicious though so you have to know how to dress for things like that. Normies trying to be the "Gray man" are often people that are either criminal, paranoid, or some mix of the two.

>>32604872
i cant stop giggling at that image

>>32600513
Rule of thumb: never buy Condor

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>>32600513
>>32605470
I have pic related. I've had it a few years and have used it for cycling, snowshoeing, hiking, and if I need a pack to store things on a day trip. It seems to be of decent quality, I haven't noticed anything with the stitching like so many people talk about.

9/10 would buy again

>>32595651
Yes it has.

>>32594916
A hiking backpack in neutral colors. Like a Kelty or something

>>32595095
>Goruck GR1

WRONG

ITT: people taking the term 'grey man' far too literally.

>>32598532

Unfortunately gangsters started the meme of guns being hidden in instrument cases, and movies like El Mariachi and Desperado only popularized it. Depending on where you live, normies may ask if you're carrying a gun in your case. Even if it's just a joke, the idea is already in their heads and I don't like that. Also consider people asking you about your instrument, or the fact that instruments can be just as valuable as guns and are thus a target for thieves.

I would think a hard-sided golf club case with foam installed inside would be better. "Do you play? Ahh, nah, they're my dad's. I'm taking them to him." Also no normie on Earth is ever gonna ask to see your clubs.

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>>32599659
i'd frisk yor butthole.

no homo

>>32595322

There's plenty of shitty backpacks with molle as a design decision now.

As long as you dont have a bedroll and all the other shit hanging off it then you'll be fine.

>>32599352
>wants very specific set of properties
>gets very mad and flustered when told no
>calls others autistic
Before getting your bag, maybe spend some bucks on a mirror

>>32594916
It's called a hiking bag. Try it some time.

You could the "Assault Backpack Laser Cut" from Coleman Surplus. About 30-40L, roughly in the same area as Jansport, and you won't look like a walking advertisement wearing it.

Again, if you don't feel like coughing up $40 dollars and some wait time for a delivery, you can always go to Walmart/Lowes for a hiking bag. Oh and uh, don't buy High Sierra, they're more cater to brand name than making sturdy quality stuff now.

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>>32609074
Forgot image. 'ere you go.

>>32594916
>>32609074
>>32609087
>>32609074
>>32609087
Oh, and one last thing (sorry for sperging, forgetting to add stuff at the last minute), here's the manufacture's website. I hope you can read German.

http://www.miltec.de/

>>32599352
>Post pic with $3k+ worth of gear
>Get called poor

kek.

OK, fine, here you go. http://www.511tactical.com/covrt-18-backpack.html

Exactly what you asked for. Looks like a shitty backpack on the outside, MOLLE and shit on the inside. Gray man galore.

>>32608781
> instruments can be just as valuable as guns and are thus a target for thieves
which is why I decided to use a tennis racket bag for my rifle

>concept of gray man is that in SHTF you want to look non-threatening and look like you have nothing of value despite having a backpack obviously full of shit
>same exact people who in real life say you shouldn't look like an easy target so robbers pick someone else

Probably my favorite example of cognitive dissonance in the gun community