/akg/ AK General

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I miss my SGL.

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>>32584896
Shouldn't have sold it.

Zasta: >>32584809

Is the twist rate of a chopped 104 UR going to JUST my groups?

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>>32584915
Got me an SLR tho

>>32584915
is that a psop scope? belarus?

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>>32584838
yall like my rifle?

>>32584971
not OP here, but I give it a noice/10

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>just want to it on the couch and play Fallout 4 on my PS4
>Wife wants to watch Netflix
Ugghhhhh I guess I'll stick around here

My 5.45 ammo should be here tomorrow, I feel bad for the poor UPS lady having to lug it all up the stairs to my door

>>32584733
WASR fags help me out with this question

>>32584915
>Is the twist rate of a chopped 104 UR going to JUST my groups?
naa mate, they do just fine chopped

>>32585048
AI is for asshole injector and GP is for girly penis, your WASR is a top daddy rather than the usual bottom sissy

>>32585060
fuck yeah!

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>>32585077
Thats wasr was sexy until i saw the magpul.

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>>32584809
>>32584915
I can hit a 3" plate at 100-150 yards no problem with an Obzor and cut down 104ur.

>>32584814
Happening soon Komrade

What the fuck is the difference between WASR, VEPR, Tula, Ishmash and Molot? Where should I look to start buying/assembling a Kalashnikov on 5.45?

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>>32585186
Slr104.

>>32584958
Yeah, PSOP. Its the good stuff man, I love it.

>>32584944
Not as cool tho

>>32585057
>>32585113
Ok solid. Will any gunsmith do, or is there a good AK guy I could ship mine to for the chopping?

>>32585204
>$2000
aren't these rifles $200 - $300 what the fuck

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>>32585218
They are only $1000

>>32585186
WASR is Cugir Romania. It's basically a combloc AKM-pattern rifle imported in a "sporter" config and has its magwell opened up to accept double stack mags.

Tula and Izhmash are the two major AK producers in Russia, Izhmash being the larger one. During the Cold War, both made AK-47s, AKMs, and AK-74s, with Tula branching into AKS-74U focus while Izhmash continued making AK-74s and, later, AK-74Ms and the AK-100 series. Izhmash now produces guns under the Kalashnikov Concern brand and is banned from exporting Saigas, which they make, to the US due to Obama sanctions as a result.

Molot is a third major producer of Russian small arms and makes the RPK. They are not part of Kalashnikov Concern and thus can export guns to the US. They make AK-pattern rifles as VEPRs in multiple calibers including 5.45, but VEPRs use the RPK trunnion and thus do not accept standard AK furniture.

If you want to buy an AK in 5.45, it's best to start by figuring out exactly what type you want. There's quite a few variations, and depending on what you want, it may be better to buy a new Arsenal SLR-series AK (made in Bulgaria) instead of buying a parts kit to build one instead.

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>>32585216
Any "should" be able to do it, depends if you want it done on a large or not.
I did mine with a hacksaw file and crown cutter

>>32585113
>Happening soon Komrade
Pretty obnoxious that it has been this long.

The m53 build sounds better, day by day

>>32585394
Yeah I definitely don't have enough confidence in my gunsmithing ability to do that.

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>>32585396
lol you're gonna need a garage

>>32585521
You can do it

>>32585533
Id rather pay to have it done right than crown my barrel incorrectly than have a keyholing monster.

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>>32585533
>lol you're gonna need a garage
How many hours did yours take?

>>32585564
Chicken

>>32585635
No idea but it wasn't too long, maybe 24hrs over a few weeks

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>>32585662
>No idea but it wasn't too long, maybe 24hrs over a few weeks
100% unrelated:
Lets say i wanted your help welding a bunch of garden art together. What is the hourly rate so I can make some decorative windchimes and deer made out of sheet steel (About 2.5mm sheet steel to be exact) ?

>>32585750
Lol no rate, just have to find a time the weather is nice and you have a couple days free. (Nice weather to test the wind chimes in)

Anyone have an idea where I might obtain a Romanian side folding stock? There is a bunch of ebay listings calling them "airsoft" but I cant tell if they're real or not.

>>32585974
Post the listings

>>32585662
Lol yeah, this is a 1200 rifle we're talking about. Of course im chicken

posting again for answers

>option 1: Arsenal 106F for $700, would put a 4.5mm triangle sidefolder and a rail on it. need to know where to have a side rail installed or if I can do it myself, saw the MPK2 rail come up as something easy. also could use recs on places to sell the poly sidefolder and Arsenal railed handguard it comes with?

>option 2: Saiga .223 for $550, need to know where to get conversions done for the cheapest or what the minimal tooling required to do it myself is

live in Atlanta if that helps

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Has any arsenal owners experience their trigger guard rivets walking off due to akt alg? Watching rob skis newest video sort of makes me want to order a cheap dremel set and grind the disconnect or off.

>>32586481
I'm near Atlanta also. Where are you seeing these deals?

>>32586484
>grind the disconnect or off
u wat?

>>32583605
is that light worth getting? been thinking about putting it on my helmet

>>32584915
Get that scope off the files recently?

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>>32587420
I like your brace better but I refuse to change now

>>32585974
>There is a bunch of ebay listings calling them "airsoft" but I cant tell if they're real or not.

Since eBay has gun restrictions, a lot of sellers bypass this by calling their parts airsoft parts. Which can make things tricky since people selling real airsoft parts call theirs airsoft too. Try sending the seller a private message. I did that once for an AK stock set from russia. The description called it airsoft so I sent him a PM and he told me it was plum furniture for a real AK. I bought it, put it on, and it fits perfectly.
Sorry for the ramble.

>>32586562
Pretty sure that guy and Rob were talking about the back side of the disconnector (toward the rear trunnion) and just grinding it a bit shorter, not actually off.

>>32586484
I'd say do it. Dremel tools are super handy to have around the house, and then just grind it down short enough to clear that rivet, like in Rob's video.

>>32584915
No, it'll be fine. I would say all, if not nearly all, of the problems you hear of with cutting down the barrel is due to morons fucking up the crowns.

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My rear sight is canted so I put on a rail to mount an optic. Looking at the Primary Arms advanced micro dot.

Also, whats a nice OD green sling for AKs?

>>32588026
What AK is that?

>>32586528
On major enough websites to where I feel that you're stupid for needing my help.

>>32588026

nice job ruining jour AK

>>32588043
Ak63ds, hungarian kit.

>>32588055
Id rather have an optic than deal with canted sights. I can still get 1/3 cowitness to fix em up though. Also wanted it all black so I like it better this way.

>>32587567
they are on sale at primaryarms dot com, and you can use the same mount. I had the old style, wasn't bad, but man do i love the look of the blade.

>>32587420
What brace is that?

>>32588211
shockwave blade

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>>32588230
Thnx bby

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>hey man are you willing to split up [lot]
>haha sure just buy everything else too :^

Why do people do this? Now I probably won't buy it even if you decide to split it up later cunt

>>32588736
What pisses me off more than anything else is when you post an "I'll take it" and send the guy all your info and are getting ready to send funds his way when he posts "Item is SPF, still taking seconds though"
Like fuck you guy, I've sent you all my shit and I'm just waiting on you to tell me where to send funds to and you go on ahead taking offers from other people after I've already said I'd buy it and sent you my address? Keep your shit then.

SAFN is that you?

That shit literally just happened on FAL Files last night

>>32588766
What does SPF mean? Ive got a files account and want to buy shit but haven't yet.

>>32588838
Sold Pending Funds. Basically, someone claimed it but hasn't paid yet.

>>32588062
Why the fuck didn't you just get a Master Mount?

Ultimaks look nasty, and boil optics.

>>32585533
Is that first gun(the German mg, no I don't know which one it is) real(I assume semi auto only if it is?) or a deac?

>>32588816
Not me, but It happens all the time to me on the AKfiles when buying from newer people (not 0 feedback new but like less than 20 feedback new)

It pisses me off to no end. I mean I get it when someone claims it but doesn't follow up with a PM and hasn't been in touch in like a day, but when someone immediately PMs the seller with all the needed info and asks for where to send finds and the seller still pulls that shit it makes me mad

>>32588766
Gotta cover your bases. I don't see why you'd care unless he sells it out from under you.

>>32588869
It's an MG42 and while it certainly could be a real deal MG42 since there are a few on the registry, I'd guess it's a semo auto kit build.

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>>32588736
>>32588766

>PM sent

This always pisses me off, just state what you want so everyone else know's it's claimed.

Took a pic of my '74's in their current states.

>>32588910
I've had that happen once. I claimed it, sent the guy my info, and then he sold it to someone else in the thread a couple hours later

>>32588943
Technically the marketplace requires an "I'll take it", so I've always said I'll take it, copy and paste the exact item in wanting, and say a pm is incoming

>>32588866
Didnt want one, and this is a Midwest Industries gen 2 AK rail. Might heat up a bit but I wont put a cheapo optic on it. Plus I wanted to cowitness.

>>32588989
Still, Master Mount gives you way more options for optics, and more options for cowitness, for that matter.

>>32588943
I like your rifles.

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>>32589016
>Meant to attach pic

>>32588897
>less than 20 feedback new
AK Files sellers almost never actually leave feedback for good buyers, so unless you're running an AK part shop out of your garage like some of those guys it takes for-fucking-ever to get to that level of feedback.

Fuck, I've been there since 2014 and I think I have like 9 feedback total. I *know* I've bought and sold more than 9 times.

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>>32589032
>mfw i have 15 already....
Its only been like 6months.

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>>32589032

I've been there for a couple of years, have received positive feedback for everything I have bought but the most recent item.

>>32589016

Thanks m8

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>>32589070
Is that a poilsh underfolder ?

>>32589032
What makes me mad is that ive sold like four firearms worth a total of like $1800 and none of those buyers left any feedback

Now when I try to sell guns people don't want to buy because they don't trust me because according to my feedback I've never sold anything that big and expensive but I actually have, it's just that nobody has left feedback for it. The only feedback I've been left as a seller has been for small things like the occasional mag or part. It makes me mad

I've been a member for pushing 2.5 years and only just broke 20 feedback because nobody leaves feedback. The only ones who do are established sellers who know to leave feedback.

>>32589070
The easiest way to get good feedback as a buyer is to leave good feedback for the seller once you receive the item. It helps to also send a message saying thanks and that it arrived. It puts you back on their mind and they'll be inclined to reciprocate the feedback.

60+ feedback mostly seller feedback though

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>>32589115
Just ask for feedback ? Kinda douchy but ibalways leave feedback if they ask.

>>32589115
And I'm autistic about leaving feedback, as soon as I receive funds for an item I leave feedback, and as soon as an item arrives that I've bought I leave feedback. I've left well over 50 feedback for others, but I've only been returned like 40% of that

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>>32589101

The stock and rear trunnion are Polish, rest is Romanian.

>>32589118

That is what I do.

>>32589115
Who cares if the retards on that site trust you? It's AKFiles, someone will buy it.

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Mag pile

>>32589161
Looks like you need to better house train your AK.

>>32588115
I may have to get one. I use a rfk block to keep the brace I have now from rotating and had two qd mounts...I wonder if it works on the blade.

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>>32589150
Ah my desire for a underfolder increase by the day...

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>>32589246

Everyone shits on underfolders but I really like both of mine. Better than the Romanian/EG/Polish wire folders.

Need some advice friends. Bought a newer production WASR, 2015 model a few months ago. Just been plinking with it and haven't sighted it in yet, but my rear sight block is canted to the right, if your looking from the buttstock to the muzzle. Can't tell it unless you look at the sight block, so it isn't too bad. Can it be zeroed you think? Or would I be better off getting an optic? And if it can be zeroed, is the whole 25/300 meter zero thing legit or just a meme?

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>>32589417
Its been a dream of mine, but i wont settle with a yugo. nothing against them, chrome lined barrel is a must for me.

When will people in America care about 5.45 like they do 7.62?

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>>32589495

I've got 5 Yugos now, M70B1, M70B2, M72, M92 PAP and an SKS. I don't mind them having non-chrome barrels as that's how they were made originally.

Fuck, I just dropped $100 on a proper M92 selector and an M92 PAP rear trunnion to have milled for my M92. Still looking for a Yugo underfolder stock.

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>>32589615
Well id like a yugo eventually for the right price. Just need that polish gun first.

>>32586484

the AKG is out of spec in hardness, both my SLR's with bulgarian FCG's dont just have light finish wear and both have over 2500 rounds.

What are the odds my SLR104 will have canted sights or gas block?

>>32589678
I think you forgot your trip

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>>32589722
Negative

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>npz pso is 300 from akfiles optics guy

This is the tax I'm gonna have to pay isn't it

Do you guys deal with wobbly muzzle devices? I figure most of you will, but mine seems pretty loose. Cant tighten it anymore, only a half turn until I cant go any further. It should be fine since the plunger pin keeps it from rotating right?

>>32588054
Armslist?

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>>32589832

I let them wobble.

>>32589678

I like them, I paid the most for my M72

>>32589832
https://youtu.be/v3DbvdmcOPs?t=162

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My brother bought a DTK2 for his 104

Don't see any reviews on them, are they any good?

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>>32589885

I'm not doing that for 13 AK's, I'll continue to thread them on until they stop and then back them off until the plunger goes in it's slot.

Thanks for the video though.

>>32589922
How wobbly?

they should have a little play

>>32589944
>they should have a little play

That's not true. There's no reason they "should" have a little play. Because most do have a little play doesn't mean it's something that has to be there.
not him, btw.

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>>32589944

Not wobbly enough to trigger my autism. Not wobbly enough to affect anything.

>>32589961
It is true because they are not designed to be tightened down., there is no mechanism which is meant to keep them from wobbling and they are not intended to be torques on beyond wobble

The proper tightness with the plunger in place should have some wobble.

>>32589968
you are good then

>>32590027
what's up with that dirty floor? is that a garage or a workshop?

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>>32590033
kinda, its a balcony that i use as a haji workshop. Plus AZ is dusty as fuck.

>>32589989
>they are not designed to be tightened down.,

We can both agree that they are designed to lock into the plunger. Since muzzle devices are not made to some specific tolerance in how they fit, some of mine tighten up when they lock into the plunger, and some can go a quarter turn or more past the plunger. Therefor I'll file a little off of my loose ones so they can go on around and then be tight when they lock into the plunger.
You don't want to do it? Fine. Walk around with your muzzle device rattling on the end of your barrel. My shit fits properly.

>>32590054
dat bass

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>>32590073
I think you have the autsim friendo

>>32590091
I disagree. I'm far too sociable and well adjusted for that.
Maybe a touch of OCD, but not like I have to shut the door three times or anything. Those poor bastards. It must be a living hell.

>>32589922
You have a nice collection anon

>>32589713
I'd say 20% but depends on tier of retailer you choose

>>32590204
Shit...

Would K-Var be better than someone else?

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>>32590236
just send it back if it is.....

>>32590258
I'd rather avoid that just because I don't want to have to pay to send back someone's fuck up.

>>32590054
>>32590071
>>32590096
Daewoo I know that's you nigger

wait so is Daewoo no longer tripping or something?

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>>32590327
see i don't even need a trip.

>>32589437
The rear sight block is canted? I haven't seen that before post pics.

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>>32590342
>shitposts the same pics so often that people recognize them without the name/trip
>somehow thinks this is a good thing

>>32590342
The brain damage emanating from your posts is identification enough

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>somehow thinks this is a good thing
never said it was bud.
>>32590373
mission accomplished :}

>tfw your only source of happiness anymore is /akg/ but nobody likes you
At least I'm not Nick or Kurwa though but still.....

>>32590389
it's your own fucking fault you cocksucking faggot.

>>32590401
I'm not Daewoo either though.

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>>32590362
:^

>>32585257
that's still over priced as fuck for a fucking basic AK. you could build a gucci AR for that much.

>>32590389
You may be a retard, but you're our retard

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>>32590430
but you would have a AR then. :{

>>32590437
This applies to Daewoo

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>>32590426


>tula bake

>>32590347
I'm at work, I will post pics when I get off work, of bit in this thread, the next one that comes up if this one is dead already.

>>32590483
If not in this thread* then the next one

>>32590430
You cannot build a Gucci AR for 1000 dollars, lol. I agree the SLR104 is overpriced but there really isn't much alternative.

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It's a work in progress.

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>>32590519
interesting i guess

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>Daewoofag thinks taking his trip off will make people stop making fun of him

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>>32590543
sure man

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>>32590519

>>32590552

>saiga


lol

>>32590519
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsJ8mseIQ8

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>>32590612

>>32587485
No, bought it new from Kalinka.

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>>32590519
Need to sand some runs after it dries, do a bit of respraying, then it's on to the detail work.

so what guns are cool other than AKs?

Is milsurp general more cancerous than akg?

Fuck I'm suffocating in here

I need some excitement and a challenge

These trips and their pics fuuuuuu

>>32588766
I don't use akfiles, whats SPF?

>>32590228
that wide angle picture looks so cartoonish

>>32590701
>>32588852

>>32590650
I think it looks cool 2bh

I wouldn't want it on any of my guns but I like the colors. I think it'd look super cool on an AR going along the entirety of the rifle.

>>32590543
>that pic
does that fat retard still post here? I filtered him LONG ago.

>>32590612
>saiga
>lol

What's wrong with a Saiga?

>>32590650
what's the story here? MLP or what?

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>>32590777
last I heard he was doxed so that probably forced him to drop the shit act. I'm sure he still stirs shit as an anon though.

What's funny is shortly before he was posting pics of someone else claiming it was him and that he lost weight.

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>>32590793
those who live under bridges dont like them.

So what are the different ak models available to a guy in the US and what makes one better than another?

>>32590877
7.62, 5.45 or 5.56?

>>32590877
instead of hoping for someone to spoonfeed you all the info you want, how about just lurking for a week or so.

>>32590602
>>32590630
are you guys shooting in a parking lot?

>>32590650
420夕暮れVHSКpacнaя_Зapя赤い夜明け

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>>32590915
nope just your typical AZ wash.

>>32589737
i need at least that many magazines

>>32590915
Arizona is just a giant parking lot so basically.

I think I posted in the wrong thread, reposting here just in case.

I have a question about my AK.
It says on the left side of the receiver "Zastava Serbia" with an N-PAP serial number above it, but on the right side, it says "C.A.I. Georgia VT".

Is the weapon Serbian made and "C.A.I. Georgia VT" just an import stamp or something?
Thank you in advance.

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>>32590994
yup that its why its nice here

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>>32590801
Fuck no.

Got drunk with my sister, who does graphic design work, and this is what happened. It's gonna have a retro 80s theme, with neon highlights on the mag, handguard, and grip. The stock will have "Rad Dawn" in splashy text on one side, and a commie star done up like pic related on the other.

There was a dude at the range I go to the other day shooting an M1A, M1 carbine, and some other nice milsurp stuff. I went over to talk to him and all he could do was trash my AK and go on about how he'd chop the barrels off of them and bust them against trees in Vietnam. I figure if he didn't like my AK then he'll have a fuckin' aneurysm next time he sees it.

>>32590877
>ask question to get answer

Or

>Lurk because faggots like hate sharing info

Fuck off and die

>>32591002
>Is the weapon Serbian made and "C.A.I. Georgia VT" just an import stamp or something?

Exactly.

>>32589856
How much? My local Cabelas has had one since they opened. It's rattle canned in green and brown, with the original dustcover replaced with a railed one. They're asking $1900 for it.

>>32591002
>Is the weapon Serbian made
Yes.
>"C.A.I. Georgia VT" just an import stamp
Also correct.

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>>32590729
Thanks. I agree that it'd be better suited on an AR, or covering the whole gun, but I don't have an AR and I don't wanna fuck my gun up. I don't really care too much about the polymer furniture, I normally have wood on the gun anyways.

>>32591054
yeah. some random dude at the range not liking AK's wouldn't be reason enough for me to make my AK look like it was pooped right out of the ass of a gay unicorn, but you do what you gotta do.

>>32591073

you must be new to firearms, imported firearms are REQUIRED to be stamped with a import marking which originates it to whom imported it.

>>32591084
>$1900
FUCK no.

If you really want an RPK, Circle 10 AK is getting in some Romanian ones soon for about $1050.

>>32591101
huh? how was >>32591073 wrong?

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>>32591099
Ha, that's not the only reason. There was a lot of alcohol involved.

I was never using the plastic furniture I had for my rifle and so I decided to spice it up some. I understand it's not for everyone.

>>32591101
>you must be new to firearms
>stamped with a import marking which originates it to whom imported it.
you must be new to english

>>32591106
I knew it was a ripoff, and it hasn't budged in nearly a year, but was wondering what those Yugos usually sold for.

>>32590605
Oddly enough I really like the look of that. I don't usually like people painting their guns, but when it's only the furniture it looks pretty good.

>>32591101
Fuck off back to files faggot

>>32591101
Get out of here faggot

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PLz R8 no H8

>>32591275


That is not a kalashnikov ak47, and appears to be a U.S made knockoff of a Hungarian AMD65

>>32591275
Not bad other than a ridiculously soft barrel. Like a 5RC when all other AK's use around 25RC. So if you aren't going to shoot it much, go for it. If you plan on putting a few thousand rounds through it, then the barrel might go to shit way sooner than it should.

should i buy regular bakelites or black bakelites

>>32591330
Black

>>32591297
>>32591299
If not this what AK would you recommend?

>>32591275
Don't own one but heard they have very soft barrels that runt last nearly as long as others., And they aren't nitrided or chrome lined if what I was told is true.

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Well nevermind that guy is selling civvi POSPs, not military ones

What other magnified optics are worth looking at for AKs? I kinda like the look of the 74 specific ones

>>32591348
Are you trying to go low budget? If so get a WASR or a Palmetto State Armory Gen 2.

avoid:
IO
Century C39, and RAS47
DDI

>>32591386
I would like to go low budget but it looks like aks are higher than i though they would be

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>>32591474
>>32591386
>>32591354

Would this be better?

>>32591386
>suggests PSA
>Avoid DDI
>DDI is PSA
Ignore this guy

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>>32591355
Those East German Zeiss ones for the 5.45 cartridge are pretty cool, I've been on the fence about picking one up for a few months. They shot a match with one on InRange TV recently and he had nothing but praise for it.

They're pretty spensive tho but they apparently live up to the Zeiss name and the German reputation

>>32591540
Those 2.8 ones? I saw them but they're way too expensive, for that price I'd rather get a Zeiss for my FAL

Plus it's relatively low magnification, which is really hurting me for basically everything I'm looking at

>>32591488
Unfortunately not. Riley Defense is basically IO inc, just a different name. Shit.

>>32591511
>DDI is PSA

Not really. Sure DDI very recently sold to the same parent company that owns PSA, but PSA rifles are much higher quality than DDI. DDI extractors break after a few hundred rounds. PSA can survive the 5000 round torture test.

>>32591488
build one you filthy nigger

get an unbarreled AMD-65 kit and go from there.

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>>32591564
>but PSA rifles are much higher quality than DDI

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>>32590347
>>32590483
Pics as promised. Sorry they suck only camera I have is my phone you can see on one side, the left, there is a gap between the trunnion and the rear sight block, and on the right side there isn't. Easier to see in person. Is my rifles irons still zero-able?

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>>32591604
Another one, first one I had the phone tilted so the cant looks a lot worse than IRL.

>>32591617
Shoot it and find out

>>32591617
Kek I had an Arsenal like that, I just couldn't

>>32591599
>PSA can survive the 5000 round torture test.

Can DDI? No. It can't.

>>32591628
Ive shot it as is without trying to zero and it seems off to me. only shot it at about 20 yards.

>>32591660
Couldn't what, zero it?

Any parts kits for 5.45, say minus barrel & receiver?

>>32591707
>Sample size of one has a failure
>"all guns are bad"
And now you know why people dont take youtube seriously
>>32591759
Any country you are looking for in specific?

>>32591762
>Sample size of one has a failure

Except that's wrong. "A failure" indicates one failure. His extractor broke so they sent him another one and that one broke too.

>>32591797
His sample size is still one rifle. That one rifle may have a defect that causes extractor issues.

>>32591759
Plenty. Rguns has both Russian and Bulgarian examples.

>>32591565

All i see is pre-barreled

>>32584971
why is there tape on it?

>>32591914
he thinks it looks cool

>>32591832

Haha. Whatever it takes to help DDI owners sleep at night.

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would this be good for a first AK?

>>32591762
Here in the states if possible. For sale in the states not manufactured in the states. Unless there's no other choice.

>>32592119
You fucking retard

>>32592142
wow thanks very informative faggot

>>32592142
He's just new. Chill out.

>>32592119
The guy was asking you what country of origin were you looking for. Made in russia, romania, bulgaria, yugoslavia (serbia) etc...

>>32592185
Well now I feel awfully dumb. I am ill-informed and have not heard much about Kalashnikovs other than Russian & Romanian ones being great, so I'd have to go with either one of them.

>>32592207
opposite ends of the spectrum there.

Romanians, while not awful compared to some american made hacks, are shit compared to most european AKs.

That being said if you are doing an american barrel and receiver it doesn't matter too much.

You need to just go buy a barreled kit from AK-Builder or Arms-of-America and start there. Buy the cheapest kit you can find and get the tools ready.

Then worry about parts kit quality and such.

There was an anon in here recently that got an OKP 7. How do you like it and how much did you pay?

>>32592246
I appreciate your insight on the matter, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

>>32590806
If that's true it's too funny

kalashnicuck wants 1699 for their American made Vityaz clone.

DDI is helping in the manufacture.

>>32592607
>(((Cohn)))
Hand rubbing intensifies

>>32592710
>>32592607
He said specifically that's a pre-sale price specifically for the special package that comes in a crate, with all three magwells and two mags for each magwell, and a "low serial number"

Final price for production run ones will probably be a couple hunned lower or so

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>>32592607
Can't wait

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Alright /akg/ I've got a question about AK's.

What's better all around (price, availability, ballistics, hunting, mags ect.) 5.45 or 7.62? I know 7.62 is more common, but is 5.45 still decently common enough that I could get it if I need it? I want to get an AK but I've hit yet another crossroad. I want something for outdoors, plinking, shtf, home defense, pretty much everything. And I can't decide, I figured up until recently that I would get an AK in 7.62x39 but I've recently been falling in love with the 5.45 round and I can't get it off my mind. I've picked out a rifle in 7.62 that I want, but I know next to nothing about 5.45 other than the rifles chambered for it are more expensive (as far as I can see).

Arsenals seem good and I must say that I do indeed like the look of them, I know its a pretty good company and all, but is there anything else? If I would be better off with 5.45 I'll go with that, but I need to know which rifles to look for.

>>32592853
Mmm, fresh Tiger.
It's not 8M3, but it'll do.

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My 5.45 was supposed to be here today but it hasn't shown up, and checking tracking info UPS now says under expected delivery date "information unavailable" and tracking info hasn't been updated since it arrived at a town about 4 hours away at 5am

>>32592853
I keep every one of those little pieces of paper tbqh, I've got a drawer full of them from GT. It's pointless but I just like it

>>32592751
Can't even make a proper RPK clone.

>>32592919
Is there a big snow storm nearby that could be fucking shit up?

>>32592853
the goat 7.62x39

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>>32592919
Most likely just being slowed down in the endless sea of people who cant be bothered to move with a sense of urgency. My last shipment of 5.45 took quite a bit longer than it should have as well.

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She is such a kkwore. I'm itching for a new AK. Not sure which.

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Just refinished my WASR, really happy with how it came out

Nice!

Is there something I'm missing about kit builds? I just started doing research on them because they seem really interesting, and from what (admittedly very limited) information I've gathered its as easy as buying the parts kit, buying a receiver, either 80% or 100%, and buying some rivets, then slapping them together.

So theoretically I could buy a 100% like the nodak NDS-2 EZ for ~$130 after FFL fee, then buy a 74 parts kit for ~$500 give or take, then have a brand new 5.45 ak? There has to be something I'm missing or overlooking here.

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>>32592979
Nah I live in WA and the package arrived in WA 12 hours ago and is only 2 hours away

>>32593039
I don't mind anything being late as long as whichever carrier gives me a heads up that it'll be late. I've been told since Thursday that it'll arrive today so I took time off work to sign for them but they never showed and now UPS is saying any info is unavailable

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>>32592919
Feels good man

>>32593238
>There has to be something I'm missing or overlooking here.

Yeah, about $500 in tooling.
Pressed rivets aren't like pop rivets.

>>32593238
Its not AR durr hurr simple, you actually need to know how to use a press and stuff.

>>32592918

the 8m3 being poly cased is a complete fail, shits rusts so easily.

>>32591564

>ddi

>a quality rifle

April fools day is a way off yet.

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What the heck. Why do they paint over these writings from what I assume was factory? I guess some people might dislike, "made in Russia" but I think it's neat.

>>32593148
Tell us if you have to hammer the mag into place when reloading

>>32593148
so jealous of that furniture. talked to the guy at Ironwood about some future purchases just yesterday.

t.poster above u

>>32593254
>took a day off of work to sign for something that never showed up
yeah that sucks, sorry to hear that anon.

>>32593276
sgammo just sent out a newsletter and I am tempted to buy more ammo. Then again I need mags for my rifles and pistols so..

Is this accurate?
https://youtu.be/RYeXMUjBhQU

>>32593282
>>32593298
Ahh that makes sense. So its really only worth it if you plan on building more than one. Thanks for the info

>>32593571
What handguard is that?

>>32593569
Or if you know someone who has the 2ton press and all like a machinist. It will be cheaper, but if you mess up, no warranty ya know?

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Been a while since I've hung around/k/
Here's my recently sbr'd M92.

>>32593608
>3
>FUCKING
>SLOTS

>>32593571
not very aesthetic but if it works hey..

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>>32593615
Here's a recent range day with my Tantal and 68 Izzy AKM.

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>>32593571
but...your mat....it was clean just yesterday...

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>>32593661
This was after a quick wipe too

Shit gets dirty f a m

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Why are these so many new useless trips?

>>32593692
Why dont you ever take new pictures ?

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Is an RPK receiver overkill for a 5.45 rifle? I saw the new VEPR on K-Var. Maybe alternative to Arsenal for high quality AKs?

Also, whats up with the gasblock, I thought 45 degree ones caused problems with the 5.45 round?

>>32593624
Arsenal? I never see railed handguards like that

>>32593743
It's an AK9 handguard, good luck finding one

It's not the most useful rail system anyways, but you can get a B10 if you want the same rail layout but not search months for it

>>32593374
Funny you should ask, the magazine catch is heavy as bawls. Might tinker with it.

>>32593722
45 degree gas blocks cause problems if the gas port is drilled at a 45 degree angle as well,it causes bullet sheer with 5.45. Most 5.45 rifles with a 45 degree gas block have the ports drilled at 90, a good example of this would be a SAR-2. I cant confirm but id imagine the 5.45 VEPR's gas port is drilled at 90.

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>>32593654
I found these ugly mags. Must be shit because the feed lips aren't reinforce. Should I toss?

>>32593813
Yeah they are garbage and belong there.

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>haven't gone shooting for a month and a half

Fugg.

>>32593822
I'll burn them and make sure to breathe deeply.

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>>32593148
>>32593496
>>32592919
>>32593692
MODS ARE ASLEEP POST CATS
gratuitous abbeyposting

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>>32593896

>>32593914
>fits?
>sits!

Ordered a bakelite bayonet and pistol grip. My shit is going to be glorious. That magazine I have is like dark rust though, kind of wanted a brighter one but the contrast is nice.

>want to build rifle from kit
>need press and rivets
>no problem except the only press owner I know of is my dad who has a hateboner for non-American guns
what do lads

>>32593952
buttfuck him to assert your dominance.

>>32593782
shit I was hoping it was just a joke my uncle was telling me about WASRs. Hopefully you can adjust that without hassle

>>32593952
Buy your own and stop relying on your father's tools.
>Or kill him and inherit them.

Hypothetically if someone did something absolutely crazy like attach an SVD barrel to a 7.62x39mm AK receiver, would the twist rate fuck up any and all groupings you would have gotten with a normal Kalashnikov barrel?

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>>32593896

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>>32593714
But I do

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>>32593714
Why dont you ever weld up the old trigger pin holes on your Saiga? And why do you buy the 120 dollar Saiga mags?

>>32594013
Hypothetically I think you're autistic

Hypothetically you niggers need to make a new thread.

>>32594013
>attach an SVD barrel to a 7.62x39mm AK receiver
Can't wait to see you in the next "guns are scary!!" collage the libs make once it KBs in your face

>>32594124
Shit hapens breh....

>>32594175
ay, can you respond to the email I sent? Its about the shippng.

New thread

>>32594215

>>32594215

>>32594215

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R8 my basic bitch WASR. She's lasted me 3,000+ rounds and many camping trips. She'll always be my first :')

>>32590877
If you're talking just AK-47/AKM, your options are WASR, Interarms, and PAPs on the lower end, James River or hard-to-find DDI parts builds for mid-tier, or Arsenal for high tier. As for 5.45 you basically get to choose between Arsenal or converted Saiga, unless you want one of those sporterized RPK FIME VEPR rifles. Rob Ski really, really liked the VEPR though, so there's that