I have talked about the concept of modern vikings with the danish

>>32576211
Your threads suck ass

Why do you feel the need to draw parallels to vikings at all? Regardless, the modern equivalent of vikings are Somali pirates.

>>32576211
No one cares about Vikings you fucking 12 year old.

>>32576226
Please bear with me, anon.

I'm just trying to prove vikings can still live on in their successor states.

>>32576233
Please don't. Noraboos are no better than any other fandom. Just listen to your Viking metal, get a Valhalla ticket patch, and leave this subject alone. The premise sucks and the threads are not improving.

>>32576229
Vikings are white fear warriors with a noice warrior culture and they love trading.

What the shit is your moronic obsession with trying to equate military forces to hollywood vikings

>>32576246
If you don't like it, you can leave anon.

Leave it to me.

>>32576254
Hollywood has produced one accurate viking movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052365/

>>32576229
>Regardless, the modern equivalent of vikings are Somali pirates.
Vikings have been hired as bodyguards for Byzantine emperors, I don't think the somalian pirates can be quite compared.

Real talk, you can compare any ancient fighting force to today's modern fighting force. You'll actually hear the Maroon Crops being referenced to Spartans because that's the usual topic for bootenant PMEs and their outdated love for 300.

You can say the same for pirates, samurais, zulu warriors, whatever. Shit, sometimes the colonel or even the chaplain would talk about how Muhreens learned the way of the bushido even though history suggests our previous perspective of them mostly consists of Pearl Harbor and the Rape of Nanking. Vikings sure, but to some that comes more from a nationalistic angle than anything else. If I have to be a faggot and really answer your question, the closest to a modern viking would be the 5th SS Panzer "Wiking" Division, Wiking being German for viking, woah, and made up mostly of nordic dudes.

But vikings is like a blanket term for seafaring warriors, as it's really their only real method of invading other towns and villages. In all honesty, being fixed on making the Marne Crips the modern vikings sounds like some 40k shit and you should just not go there, please. When I hear modern viking, I think of that one video of the techno viking.

>>32576211
USMC:
>don't take slaves
>aren't skilled craftsmen
>aren't adept traders
>don't bring their families to settle conquered lands
>can't farm for shit
>are a Corps of professional soldiers

You're an idiot.

>>32576292
The russian and USMC did have their own independent battle group (the Expedition fleet), which is close to how the vikings wage war i.e. independent ships full of warriors and weapons.

>>32576211
>Is the USMC an equivalent of modern vikings?

No. It is modern equivalent of the Sacred Band of Thebes.

>>32576434
For the gayness?

Marines ain't that guy.

>>32576278
>You'll actually hear the Maroon Crops being referenced to Spartans because that's the usual topic for bootenant PMEs and their outdated love for 300.
Don't forget the rampant homosex

>>32576292
Actually by those definitions, North Korea is more viking like than anything. I wouldn't say they are skilled.

>>32576498
North Korea can't be vikings because they are quite confined to their state.

Vikings, historically, went everywhere.

>>32576267
The Varangian Guard existed because the emperors needed personal bodyguards that were separated from internal politics. Outside their original role as mercenaries, they were sparingly deployed in battle. Also by the 12th century the Varangian Guard was primarily composed of Anglo-Saxons, not Vikings.

>>32576211
Implying there wouldn't have been any gay vikings. You don't know us or our culture. This is appropriation.

>>32576211
Vikings = cowardly seaborne robbers and rapist (not even pirates since their victims were landbound defenceless monks and villagers). The vikings were rightfully and regularly despised throughout history until the Nazis decides their Hunnish Asiatic ancestry didn't match their misnamed """Aryan""" fable, and latched on to the Vikings as some kind of hardy pioneers. The issue here is Vikings =/= Norse. The Norse were farmers, proper soldiers and settlers. Just like the Anglos and Saxons.

>>32576211
Somali pirates area the real modern Vikings

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>>32576589
>Implying there wouldn't have been any gay vikings.

Royal Navy had warship called HMS Gay Viking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gay_Viking

>>32576233

No it really sucks. Go do some homework.

>>32576596
Not that the fanboy picture of OP is true but your shit is just as wrong even if you're bringing a new perspective into the thread.

How in the hell do you figure that Vikings were of Hunnic descent? Scandinavians were both farmers and raiders.

>>32576596
That's just wrong and wrong.

The vikings mounted successful invasion of England and maintained their dominance their decades and even changed the celtic culture into an anglo-saxon-nordic one.

This is not to mention the norman, which were vikings, who went on conquered a shitload of shit in the 11th and 12nd centuries.

The christianized vikings are also badass in their own norwegian crusades against the muslims.

Vikings were badass warriors who excel in combat, both as raid and conventional warfare.

>>32576278

i'm stealing Marne Crips.

>>32576561
The varangian crusades were used sparingly in combat but were very effective due to their ferocity.

They also maintained honor and integrity as long as the emperor pays them.

>Also by the 12th century the Varangian Guard was primarily composed of Anglo-Saxons, not Vikings.
Which is true, but by that age, the vikings have been christianized either ways.

>>32576665
>changed the celtic culture into an anglo-saxon-nordic
You really seem to have done your reading on this subject.

Wow.

Looks like Mom's investment in Medieval Total War has really paid off in this thread.

Thanks Mom...

>>32576837
Pardon?

>>32576845
The Anglo Saxons had been in Britain since the 5th century, whilst the Vikings didn't settle there until the 9th century.

There was very little identifiable 'Celtic' culture in England by the time the Vikings arrived there.

>>32576886
The anglo-saxons shared culture with the vikings, been germanic tribes.

Same gods, same culture, even same warrior class (i.e. hirdmen and huscarls).

Even in the 11th centuries, the Battle of Hasting, the norman, anglo-saxons and viking share the same troops and equipment, norman having formalized cavalries aside.

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>>32576211
Please take your stupid threads back to >>>/pol/

>>32576921
Go back to /b/ with that off-topic shit.

>>32576913
That's good, but in what way did the Vikings change the "celtic culture" England when they arrived there in the 8-9th centuries?

>>32576927
They established the danelaw, and resurged germanic paganism a bit, since the anglo-saxons at the time were christianized.

>>32576211

>Aside from pozzed ass shit like black troops, gay troops and female troops, they actually fit the strike force composed of skilled fighters and seamen of yore.

>black and gay troops aren't effective

Confirmed zero military experience

>>32576952
I would say any military is better without them.

They exist to whine about their minority status.

>>32576966
Like I said, from what experience? You haven't served so you're really not in any position to make that judgment.

>>32576986
From my observations, black and gay troops aren't anymore effective than straight white troops, but having them in break the esprit de corps.

>>32576932
Can you name any Saxon Kings that renounced Christianity as a result of the Viking Invasion?

Do you realise that there was no notable element of Celtic culture in 9th century England?

>>32576998
>Can you name any Saxon Kings that renounced Christianity as a result of the Viking Invasion?
I can't, but the areas that were occupied by vikings had a germanic paganism resurgence.

>Do you realise that there was no notable element of Celtic culture in 9th century England?
I realize that, because the viking's cousins, the anglo-saxons had did that job a long time ago.

>>32576993

i realize i'm dealing with somebody whose experience with the military and other cultures is /pol/ and /k/, but i'll still just go ahead and say that you're completely wrong.

>>32577006

so it happened because you said it happened. got it.

>>32577016
>i realize i'm dealing with somebody whose experience with the military and other cultures is /pol/ and /k/, but i'll still just go ahead and say that you're completely wrong.
And you would be very wrong, but who am I to say? I'm just a student of history.
>Archaeologically, the introduction of Norse paganism to Britain in this period is mostly visited in the mortuary evidence.[231] A number of Scandinavian furnished burial styles were also introduced that differed from the Christian churchyard burials then dominant in Late Anglo-Saxon England. Whether these represent clear pagan identity or not is however debated among archaeologists.[232] Norse mythological scenes have also been identified on a number of stone carvings from the period, such as the Gosforth Cross, which included images of Ragnarok.[233]
Luckily, history backs me up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_paganism#Scandinavian_incursions

MUHREENZ are human garbage who do nothing positive for anyone and american personnel in general are no more brave or special than any other developed nation's armed forces

>>32576445
The number of them that show up in gay porn says otherwise.

>>32576993
Do you have any evidence for your assertion that isn't just anecdotes? Consider for a moment that the historical record as demonstrated by the Spartans, Sacred Band, Buffalo Soldiers, Tuskegee Airmen, Alexander Hamilton's observations as an officer in the Continental Army etc indicate that being black/gay has no bearing on military effectiveness. To pretend that it does means that you are falling prey to your typical divide-and-conquer leftist identity politics.

>>32576993
What observations? I can tell you from experience that they no one cares about where you stick your dick or why color your skin is when someone is trying to kill you.

But yeah I guess your "observations" from your extensive experience browsing /b/ make you an expert on military cohesion.

>>32576671
>honor and integrity
>as long as the emperor pays them
Pick one.

They're known to have switched sides on more than one occasion just because one contender for the throne offered them more money, that's hardly a show of integrity.

>varangian crusaders
I'm assuming there was supposed to be an R in "crusades". Which is not what they were at all.

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>>32577037
Wrong based on what? You won't even post any anecdotal evidence to the contrary much less anything substantive.
Quintessential keyboard warrior.

>>32577062
>Do you have any evidence for your assertion that isn't just anecdotes?
Blacks and gays will always whine about how they are mistreated in the military, thus decreasing and divide and conquer the military, and rot it from inside. Evidences being here:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/190.html

>To pretend that it does means that you are falling prey to your typical divide-and-conquer leftist identity politics.
Holding your own identity is more important than not having any kind of identity.

>>32577037
>I'm just a student failing history.
ftfy

>>32577086
>They're known to have switched sides on more than one occasion just because one contender for the throne offered them more money, that's hardly a show of integrity.
Their integrity is based on how much money is being paid to them, and this money is how they base their honor and integrity.
>I'm assuming there was supposed to be an R in "crusades". Which is not what they were at all.
I was making a typo, it was supposed to be varangian guards.

>>32577037
>poster who is unable to distinguish the difference between the use of pagan imagery within a Christian worldview ala Dream of the Rood and a resurrection of pagan organized religion ala worshipping at Irminsul

The latter did not happen in England.

>>32577071
>>32577090
Apparently, they do care.

The military and administration even makes a big deal about it:
http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/Blacks%20in%20the%20Marine%20Corps%20%20PCN%2019000306200_4.pdf

The fight against "discrimination" goes on.

>>32577112
I don't think you read that quite clearly, anon.

It was saying that due to the viking incursion, germanic paganism was being brought back to England.

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>>32577099
Kek

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>>32576211
you are gay. this is why you obsessedwith "vikings"

>>32577157
Nice projection, brah.

>>32576993
>From my observations
t. his ass

>>32577062
>your typical divide-and-conquer leftist identity politics
Yeah it's the leftists that are trying to divide people by saying gays and blacks deserve equal rights and protections under the law, while the right is trying to unify them by saying they're degenerates, or lazy mooches (when they're not just saying go "back to Africa").

>>32577093
or
and bear with me with this
or maybe
just maybe
there's discrimination in the military against Blacks and Gays for higher leadership.

>>32577140

from your own post >>32577037
>Whether these represent clear pagan identity or not is however debated among archaeologists.

>>32577170
Yeah, bro, now let's talk about divide and conquer.

Fuck that shit, get the niggers and homos out of the military.

>>32577176
From my own post:
>Norse mythological scenes have also been identified on a number of stone carvings from the period, such as the Gosforth Cross, which included images of Ragnarok.[233]

>>32577168
Now we have leftist coming in and talk about how mistreated blacks and gays are in the military.

This is the exact reason why leftists, black and gays are pozzing elements.

>>32577179
and end up with problems like this?
http://nation.time.com/2012/02/24/navy-seeks-a-darker-shade-of-seals/

it's useful for a military to not have all 6'3" 230 lb blond dudes with crew cuts in case you have to blend in with people who aren't 6'3" 230 lb blond dudes with crew cuts

diversity in the military is a strategic advantage.
>>32577192
still debated. Christianity has a long history of appropriation in order to reach people groups

>>32577179
>let's fight divide and conquer mentality, by dividing people even more!
With wisdom like your's it's a wonder Trump hasn't picked you for his cabinet.

>>32577093
The link you cited as "evidence" does not support your claims that "blacks and gays will always whine about how they are mistreated in the military, thus decreasing and divide and conquer the military, and rot it from inside." It is an opinion piece written by a leftist, as evidenced by its use of such terms as "criminal war in Iraq," its stated goal of "Linking the anti-war movement with the struggle against racism is a powerful way to forge the unity that’s needed to resist and disarm the military brass," and its publication in an online newsletter titled "Workers World."

Is this the best evidence you were able to produce? Surely if black and gay soldiers had an indisputably deleterious effect on combat performance as you are claiming, there would be a preponderance of irrefutable evidence like what exists on the topic of why women in combat arms is a bad idea. Let's see some great sources that silence all opposition.

>Holding your own identity is more important than not having any kind of identity.

And what's your identity? "British, Irish, German, Polish, Italian and proud of it?"

>>32576211
Vikings raided small villages which for the most part had no defense whatsoever. Guns have provided even the poorest of people the means to defend themselves from invading forces. Comparing today's soldiers to vikings is retarded. Soldiers have to fight people who have the means to fight back.

Vikings are literally niggers. Stop making this thread.

>>32577214
Diversity is a scourge and will divide and conquer the military like nothing else.
>still debated. Christianity has a long history of appropriation in order to reach people groups
If they are ripping off germanic paganism, then germanic paganism rises, m8.

>>32577226
Viking raided and besieged cities, m8.

Look at the great host in England, and the siege of Paris.

>>32577220
>"British, Irish, German, Polish, Italian and proud of it?"
so 4 historically non-white people groups in America and the brits?

>>32577220
It's written by a black marine socialist, m8.

They will always use the race card to further their own end.

>Surely if black and gay soldiers had an indisputably deleterious effect on combat performance as you are claiming
Black and gay warriors rot the military from within by forcing the military to be more political correct and tolerant.
>And what's your identity? "British, Irish, German, Polish, Italian and proud of it?"
Straight white male american and intend to keep it that way.

>>32577217
>let's fight divide and conquer mentality by adding more identities and whining about how minorites are oppressed
Yes, this cancer ought to be stopped.

>>32576211

Jesus Christ. Why the fuck is this a topic for discussion.

Marines are not like Vikings. There is no extant group that resembles Viking culture, you fucking fruit. They were not exclusively warriors, but more sailors, farmers, and explorers.

Stop this history channel bullshit. Your topic is shit, no one fucking cares about Vikings aside from teenagers and fat neckbeards, and there are no modern militaries that resemble the way Vikings fought more than anyone else, because aside from seaborne raiding they WERE NOT SPECIAL

FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>32577246

God forbid that we judge not by the color of the skin but by the content of the character. anything but that end. then you'd have to face up to the fact that for all your "heritage" and privilege, you're still a failure.

>>32577235
Fine, they raided cities too. Point still stands, their tactics kept them from fighting forces that were of equal power. These same tactics would not work today, so modern soldiers cannot really be compared to snow niggs. If anything, the somali pirate connection works much better. They both pick their fights well, making sure they are at a large advantage, and they both act too quickly for a force of equal size to meet them. Obviously the people who somali pirates target have no chance of fielding anything like that but still.

>>32577278
The warriors actually excel in both conventional warfare and raids.

After all, in the viking age, everyone fought like vikings, including their opponents, except the muslims.

>>32577246
>Black and gay warriors rot the military from within by forcing the military to be more political correct and tolerant.

You're just repeating your talking points. Post a credible source that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that this is happening in the military right now.

>>32577277
God forbid we keep this land white.

You of different color can go elsewhere and whine about how you are mistreated there.

>>32577289
ok, then everybody who's not British/French should leave. Germans, Finns, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, etc. were at one time not considered white in America.

>>32577284
I have already provided a valid source, you have a black marine socialist who comes and speaks about how raysiss the military is.

>>32577294
In this time when whites are the world's minority, we ought to embrace whiteness, at least in America.

The darkies ought to leave and the homos should start making babies.

>>32577283
To elaborate, to be viking, one force ought to be:
- aggressive
- incredibly good in infantry tactics
- good in amphibious assault and raiding tactics

This is why the US marines, royal marines and the russian naval infantries do fit the viking labels.

>>32577306

or we could go for the most efficient and effective military, which involves not caring if you're black or gay.

also you realize there were black Vikings right? and that Thor and Loki cross dressed and Loki got preggers, right?

>>32577336
>or we could go for the most efficient and effective military, which involves not caring if you're black or gay.
The most efficient and effective military require a single identity to protect morale and esprit de corps, any force that complains about muh raysiss and discrimination are not worth keeping.
>also you realize there were black Vikings right?
I don't realize that.

>and that Thor and Loki cross dressed and Loki got preggers, right?
Yes, Loki is a trickster god, and Thor crossdresses to get back at his hammer.

>>32577229
>If they are ripping off germanic paganism, then germanic paganism rises, m8.
Evidently not.

The Gosforth Cross is likely to have been attempts by local Christians to use pagan imagery to appeal to the Vikings.

The fact that Norse paganism is dead tells you that paganism did not benefit from this kind of appropriation.

>>32577361
>The Gosforth Cross is likely to have been attempts by local Christians to use pagan imagery to appeal to the Vikings.
And in turn, turning their religion a bit more pagans.

>The fact that Norse paganism is dead tells you that paganism did not benefit from this kind of appropriation.
Nordic paganism lives on as the folk and tradition that Christianity stole.

You still have active worship of viking heroes and nordic gods as saints in scandi countries.

>>32577351

there is a single identity in the USMC. or have you not actually met a Marine because they never shut up about the Marines.

as the Vikings traveled to the middle east they picked up North Africans and integrated them in their warbands. hence black Vikings.

and Vikings were gay.

>>32577361

this guy

>>32577376

that's not how saints work, and Protestants don't worship saints.

>>32577386
>there is a single identity in the USMC. or have you not actually met a Marine because they never shut up about the Marines.
Yet you have active evidences of gay marines and black marines complaining about muh discrimination in the marines.
>as the Vikings traveled to the middle east they picked up North Africans and integrated them in their warbands. hence black Vikings.
North Africa is not black.
>and Vikings were gay.
They weren't either.
>that's not how saints work, and Protestants don't worship saints.
For worship of the old gods, they just require prayers.

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Jeezus, not this shit again.

Vikings (and "viking" was a verb. It was something you did OCCASIONALLY. the closest ME equivalent would be "raiding") were a product of their time. Mostly, they were just semi-literate farmers. Pretty much the only things they had going for them were good boats, decent heath and hygiene, and the fact that they were surrounded by cucks decimated by hundreds of years of fighting over the corpse of the Roman Empire. Plus, as near as we can tell, they all dressed like garden-gnomes, not the heavy-metal underwear models on that stupid TV show.

Valhalla wasn't even a thing until Snorri Sturluson decided to put a Christian gloss on some old folk-tales to boost his political ambitions. Biological race wasn't a concept, and faggotry was fine, as long as you were the pitcher, not the catcher.

Look, if you want to play modern viking, there are plenty of militant neo-heathen groups happy to indulge your fantasy, if you're white enough. But please, let the dead lie.

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>>32577459
As far as I can tell, you do not know shit about vikings.

This is how their professional huscarls look.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_Bridge

It pains me how /k/ basically knows jack about vikings.

>>32576211
OP, you need to educate yourself about Vikings. There is no legitimate comparison that you can make between any modern military and medieval seafaring raiders.

Stop wasting threads with this shit.

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>>32577486

>>32577486

and huscarls were a limited band of paid warriors. professional warriors can be only a small amount of a population in order for any society to not collapse economically.

>>32577496
As far I'm concerned, I'm very educated on vikings.

And there are military forces that are equivalent to vikings today, see>>32577325

>>32577513
These "limited" warriors number in the thousands and perform the core block of the army, much like the legions of old.

>>32576665
>thinking the Celts were still in England around when the Vikings turned up
Despite having a raging hard on for the Vikings, you apparently know so little about the world they lived in.

>>32577524

still very much numerically limited. the bulk of Harald Harada's army was peasants with spears.

>>32577542
The celts cultures were changed by the viking's cousins, the saxons, decades ago.

I consider the vikings the exact same as the anglo-saxons, because they share the same culture, race and even battle tactics.

And the celts were still in England at the time, look at the welsh.

>>32577550
That is composition of everyone at the time.

I must remind that even the roman legions have a small sect of professional troops, supported by a large amount of foreign mercs and auxillaries.

>>32577559

so the Celts existed because you say so because it fits your weird Vikingaboo (vikeaboo? norsaboo?) fetish.

>>32577592
They very much still exist at the time, yes.

The welsh manages to keep their culture even AFTER the norman invasion.

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>>32576445
>Marines ain't that guy.

That guy is exactly what they are.

>>32577559
>Saxons in England only decades before the Vikings
>Saxons were Vikings
>Wales is England
Just stop.

>>32577515

You forgot the part where

>Not professional warriors

Just fucking stop. Your cringeworthy threads are absolutely retarded. Do you have a university education in history? Specifically European history? Your pedestrian criteria for what makes a Viking just shows how underage you are, and how dumb you are.

Btw, stop going to /pol/. You'll be less angry and less fixated on bullshit, like race, gays, trans, and all that irrelevant garbage. Youre making yourself look really pathetic. Just stop. No one, literally no one, gives a fuck about Vikings (who were cucked incidentally by Christianity HARD).

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>>32577642
Terminal Lance will forever be my favorite internet comic of all time.

>>32577786
>>32577642
terminal lance has some gems but i feel they dont really capture the enlisted experience
untied status marin crops really does a good job of filling in once terminal lance died

>>32576434
Sacred band of Thebes were gay, muhrines are faggots

>>32577559
>I consider the Vikings the exact same as the Anglo-Saxons
That's because you're a fucking stupid spastic

>>32576211
>Aside from pozzed ass shit like black troops, gay troops and female troops
>aside
>imblyings

>>32576952
t. veteran Jamal Gaysmith

>>32576211
Vikings have been mythologized. In realty they were only raiders who attacked lightly defended sea towns and monasteries. They would be destroyed against entrenched defenders or a standing army and would've been utterly swept aside as unclean barbarians by the romans.

>>32577037
Are you going to tell me that marines single handily won WW1 as well.

>>32577402
>Yet you have active evidences of gay marines and black marines complaining about muh discrimination in the marines.
If there actually is discrimination (and I'm not saying there is), then the people doing it would be the ones who are the problem.

>>32577229
Saint Nicholas became the Santa Claus legend to Christianize solstice festival legends of Odin, the mass celebrating the resurrection of Christ was named Easter and given a mess of imagery associated with rabbits and eggs in order to co-opt the festivals associated with the worship of Eostre; the tactic of consecrating competitive holy sites in the name of Christ and connecting competitive holy days to the worship of Christ is suggested in the bible.

>>32577663
Wales is a part of England, boyo, even by that time.
>>32577693
>vikings
>not having professional warriors
No, you fucking stop and go read some history.
>>32578830
In reality, they beat armies in conventional warfare and sack towns and castles. Read up.

It's fucking unbelievable that /k/ knows jack about the early medieval period.
>would've been utterly swept aside as unclean barbarians by the romans.
Protip: It's the romans who were swept aside by unclean barbarians.

>>32579985
No, the problem will always be the ones whining for it, these elements are never worth keeping, considering the majority of the forces never give a shit about black and gay marines.