So what do these mass shooter tards do wrong to injure 47 and

>>32575677
have you seen videos of any mass shootings? literally none of them take the time to aim and are point shooting/hip firing.

>>32575677
.223

They do what the anti-gunners tell them to, spray fire from the hip. Results in a lot of flesh wounds and few dead.

The people who do these shootings very rarely know much about firearms, ballistics, and military strategy. They see guns as a tool to cause the damage they want to cause, but they don't know how to work them.

>>32575716
Also I don't know for sure, but I have to imagine the news stations are very generous with the "injured" reports. If little Timmy falls and scrapes his knee during the rush to get away from the gunman, he'll ask the paramedics for a band-aid which they'll have to record in their logs, and so you have another "shooting injury" for the news to fluff up their numbers.

>>32575716
That's bullshit, a great portion of terrorists/gangsters that carry out shootings are ex-military and have the training.

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>>32575750
yep just look at all these hardened combat professionals

>>32575766
Cho was fucking legit

He got 32 and even managed to spread it out over hours

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>>32575677
Guns are overated for mass murdering

>>32575766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX-kh0qHLtg

>>32575677
>seems like you have to be a serious fuck up to open fire in a crowded building

You answered your own question. That is not the action of a stable, sane person. They're going to be adrenaline dumping, hyperventilating, and going through all of the headfuckery that anons who've been in combat have told us about. On top of that, they're trying to do all of the things the voices in their heads are screaming at them to do. And there's a good chance they didn't sleep very well the night before, plus who knows when they last had a proper meal.

None of that stuff is conducive to proper shooting technique.

>>32575716
>The people who do these shootings very rarely know much about military strategy
And that wouldn't help them much either, since it is about tactics.

>>32575766

This.

>>32575801

Ban assault trucks.

No one NEEDS to pull 20,000 pounds.

>>32576426
Yes I do! I can't take your mom out on date night without that tow rating

>>32576570
Fucking savage.

>>32575677
Being untrained retarded spazzes.

>>32575677
Most of the injuries are panic caused by other people, such as tripping and trampling.

Muslims are not known for their efficiency.

>>32575822
Ordnance>Armaments

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>>32576426
Reked

>>32575677
Because most of these assholes don't know the first thing about what they're about to do.

Case in point; Ronald McDonald used a Beta magazine, a 100rd double-drum renowned for it's bad quality and performance.
He also uses birdshot and seemed to think gunpowder works like conventional explosives because he made some boobytraps which didn't work.

Eric & Dylan cut down some passable duck guns, then brought a Hi-Point rifle and Tec-9 pistol.
From a start out point, not terrible general purpose civvie guns (besides the Intratec), but really not amazing fighting weapons, especially not after they had niggered them up.
They also made some IEDs from propane tanks which didn't work for the most part.

Most of these guys just kind of stumble through wanton violence with a quasi-randomly chosen gun, little plans (beyond picking gun free zones), little training or thought, then shoot themselves when cops show up.

The ones which worked efficiently, like Breivik or Omar knew to pick a decent gun and to corner lots of victims. Breivik put autistic amount of thought into it but then it all just boiled down into blasting teens and double tapping them when they were done.
Omar I think probably got lucky because some fucking idiot blocked the emergency exit (and I hope they feel like shit now).

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>>32575677
Texas tower shooter. trained marine Sharp shooter. pic related.

>>32575677
Those who are competent and able aren't insane enough to do it.

Those insane enough to do it aren't competent, coherent, or able to train for it or do it "well", or even don't care to.

That's it. It's that simple. The closest was this new guy at Ft. Lauderdale, being ex-Military and actually being VERY scarily effective with like one reload in a subcompact, but then he laid down because he wasn't aiming to kill as many as possible, he was just losing his fucking mind.

It's really that simple.

>>32576869
tagged 49 peeps.

>>32576854
>Breivik put autistic amount of thought into it
He also set a bomb outside their congress building as a distraction.

That's a whole next level of crazy.

>>32577121
Yeah but there was this whole thing about filling bullets with nicotine and other such bullshit.

>>32575677

They usually don't know how to use their weapon, or aim. Since it's a psychotic action most are nervous or panicked.

Then take the rare example of just a nut cracker like Charles Whitman, former Marine, that is a true psycho killer who just find a high point and starts sniping bitches.

>>32576869
>Luger
>M1 Carbine
MY DICK

>>32575736
you think the reporters are out there counting injured people and bodies? all the numbers we get are provided by law enforcement.

>>32575782
it's that asian efficiency. if he got a low score he'd bring shame to his family

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>>32577180
ya Charles Whiteman went hard.

>>32577257
Must have been fucking scary, too.

>tumor pressing on brain causing him to be angry for no reason all the time
>has no idea why, it just gradually gets worse and worse until he's overcome with fury at all times
>suicide note begging coroner to PLEASE look at his brain to find out what's wrong with him

>>32576869
>Carbine and a luger
Dick=diamonds

>>32575677
Some self defense blog did a series of post on analyzing mass shootings and what works and what doesn't (this was for later posts about defenses against at shootings). Short answer was that the more rounds they put into individuals, the more killed. Which seems obvious but since pop culture and media have taught everyone that a single shot is 100% fatal a bunch of these guys fire wildly into crowds and don't keep shooting the wounded. Cho was an exception.

>>32575677
You also have to consider that the '47 injured' refers to anyone who says they stub a toe during the event. Anyone transported to a hospital for any reason.

Shoot up a movie theater? People crush to get out the exits and cause injuries? Add it to the total.

>>32577345
Riighht!
>wake up with overwhelming urge to stab your wife and children to death. pack up your shit and pop skulls.

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>>32577172
Same guy, additional post.

I'm giving a shout out to Whitman because I'm former muhreen grunt and it does show what is capable with competent training.

But the way I'd go out, is more this style. So Army technically has high score, not in shootings but kill count. They can still suck it tho.

>>32577121
the bomb was supposed to be the primary attack
Utoya was secondary so he could go out in a blaze
but the building he bombed was mostly empty because he did it on a holiday

>>32575750
The only one I remember being capable was the guy who shot those pigs in Dallas.

>>32577373
>blew up a daycare
nice guy

>>32577373
His also ended up killing a bunch of kids instead of the Feds he was targeting.

>>32577403
>>32577419
Don't bring your kids to work. Don't work for a corrupt segment of the government that violates American Constitutional Rights.

>>32576426
>10T
>Americans actually think that's heavy.

>>32577453
Even if you somehow think murdering kids is ok it doesn't change they fact that they weren't who he was trying to kill. He missed his target.

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>>32577566
No. The daycare was in the building.

The only legitimate argument was a lot of people were civilians working for the FEDz.

He hit their headquarters. He hit his target. There was just some collateral damage.

>>32577597
I guess those kids were well disciplined

>>32577400
>pigs
I think you're lost friendo

>>32577597
He hit the wrong part of the building. The part he hit was largely a daycare and civilian contractor area. He missed the part of the building his targets were in. It was almost all "collateral damage" and very few Feds.

>>32577349
I've noticed the most effective tend to have some exposure to anatomy, the worst killers, I've heard, will literally dissect people in front of them using a daydream as a proxy.

>>32577403
>>blew up a daycare

Yet we bitch about other countries using human shields

In fact, Smith says, McVeigh had first seriously considered targeting the Federal Building in Phoenix, but "he decided that there were too many buildings around it."

>>32577761
100% this. Why don't we just assign every Soldier and Marine a baby they have to take care of and take on patrols?

Then no one could ever attack them, it wouldn't be right.

>>32575801
Hey Mohammed, how is germoney?

>>32577360
>too afraid to admit that free will isn't real

Sad!

>>32577257
Is this a photo from the shooting? Never saw this

>>32577950
yeah

>>32576869
Now thats what i call a whitman sampler!

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>>32577349
>Some self defense blog did a series of post on analyzing mass shootings and what works and what doesn't (this was for later posts about defenses against at shootings). Short answer was that the more rounds they put into individuals, the more killed. Which seems obvious but since pop culture and media have taught everyone that a single shot is 100% fatal a bunch of these guys fire wildly into crowds and don't keep shooting the wounded. Cho was an exception.

This implies that the goal is straight-up causing the death of others instead of carnage and mayhem. Anyways all these people are straight-up crazy, but not necessarily incapable of determining right from wrong. He did go to law enforcement, though, and sought help, so this end result does seem problematic. We'll know more when more information becomes available, I suppose

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>>32578634
>whitman sampler

>>32575710
Largely this, plus the human body is fairly tough. If medical care is nearby a gunshot wound can often be treated and the victim survive. If a round hits something vital (heart, brain etc...) you probably won't last long enough to get on the OR table, but anything that hits something non-vital gives you a fighting chance at least.

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>>32578634
Fucking kek

>>32578634
my sides

>>32575677
Not using 308

>>32578779
I knew the Norinco ban was to blame for so much

If Bozo in Colorado had an M1A clone he could have taken out half the theater

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>>32576869
Is that a stag horn grip on a Luger?

>>32578798
I mean you have VEPR and PTR rifles for pretty cheap. You would think more of these retards would be running expensive guns optimized for the situation. Semi auto belt feds, 308 battle rifles, SP/JHP ammo, etc. Only exception afaik was anders brevik who complained that he could only get a mini14 and considered lacing his bullets with poison

I guess you have to be pretty dumb to shoot up a place anyway.

>>32578685
OP asked why the wounded-to-killed ratio is so high. Whether the goal is killing or just notoriety isn't related to that. But yeah most seem to be kooks.

>>32578822
This is a pretty good documentary called "Killing in America." About mass shootings and gun control in the 80s.

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>>32576426
>>32576570
HOLY SHIT MY SIDES

>>32577453
>muh constitution

kys

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>>32575677
because if you aren't aiming with a 9mm you aren't gonna get a good bullets fired to kills ratio. Look at how many people survived being shot 3-5 times with a 9mm between columbine and Virginia tech... astonishing.

>>32575677
They don't know much about firearms. That's all it really boils down to. If they knew much about firearms then they would probably have done their shootings with shotguns instead of pistols or low powered rifles.

>>32579099
Do you know where you are? More importantly, do your parents know where you are?

>>32578847
I'm thinking the same entirely, if you know you're more than likely going to die at the end of it, why not take out a loan and get a battle rifle or something similar that would let you take out as many targets as possible with the effectiveness of the round the gun fires. Not like you're going to be paying it back. But then again, many of them probably aren't that knowledgeable about firearms, Lanza had a decent idea in that he trained with his pistols and possibly AR iirc, but he was still less effective than Cho.

Also surprised less /k/ommandos are mass shooters these days. Board has gotten more /r9k/ by the day after 2015 if not earlier.

>>32575750
Gang bangers who join the military end up in motorpool or supply.

They're lucky to fire 100 rounds a year.

>>32577403

No evidence of a daycare exists. A Federal building devoted to secret (and illegal) govt actions would not have a fucking daycare in it where every dumbfuck civilian mom could wander through.

Stay cucked, beta cunt.

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>>32575766
>Bottom right
I guess this means no more Needle Drop.

>>32577544
Nobody thinks that is heavy when most containers weigh in at 30t

>>32577544
We can't all be hauling around your mum, m80

>>32576426
Fyi the truck weights 20k alone. The legal limit for a standard truck and trailer is 80k


I know you pulled the number out of your assistant secretary simulator. Just correcting the record here

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>>32575750
>ex-military
Yes the military trains every soldier to be a perfect assault sniper who can carry 500 pounds no problem and jump 8 feet straight up (if any soldiers are reading this, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!!)

>>32578714
>the human body is fairly tough
People have died from sneezing too hard.

>>32577166
Desu what?

>>32577166
So the victims would get addicted to getting shot and ask for more?

>>32579813
Human anatomy is not governed by reason.

>>32579471
>Board has gotten more /r9k/ by the day after 2015 if not earlier.
I'd say it's gotten more /pol/, but there's probably a 99% overlap between that place and /r9k/.

>>32580095
pure liquid nicotine is fatally toxic in small amounts

>>32580252
The thing is, drilling holes in bullets, and then capping them with wax after filling them, doesn't work.

>>32575716
Agreed.

Mass shooter = edgy faggot loner
Terrorist = trained person

Most people who are powerful enough to hurt somebody generally have good lives and jobs so they don't go out and hurt people.

I think Tupac took like 5 shots? In one evening and lived for years until getting shot again

>>32575677
he used 9mm