When it comes to a general use axe, why shouldn't I spend

>$500 for a fucking axe

What kind of shit can you do with a $500 axe that you can't do with your standard hardware store axe?

>>32558385
Lighter wallet for higher speed lower drag.

>>32558321
why would i care if you buy a sheet metal axe?

Enjoy your blisters.

>>32558385
Operate operationally in an operational theater of operations

>>32558385

What is a good axe with the same style/build as this that costs less?

I am unsure of the quality as well, despite it costing $500. Is that a price I should expect for something like this or is it a brand name price?

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OP if you like it, buy it. But >>32558385 is also correct. More expensive doesn't necessarily mean better.

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>>32558321
>$500 axe

Axes and hatchets like pic related work just as well for general use.

>>32558444
thats the conversion face!

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>not owning a nordic battle axe

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If I want a maul for splitting wood what should I buy?

>>32558321
How often do you process small pieces of wood? If you do it often there are better options than this. If you honestly just want a cool tomahawk and don't process wood often go to aliexpress or some shit and you can probably get the same thing for like $20

>>32558321
Wetterlings - Les Stroud is the only way to go.
That toy in your picture is utter shit for actual axe work.

Pic related feels lively in the hand for an axe. Only $20-30. 420 steel and not full tang but it seems to function marginally better than batoning for splitting wood and excellent for splitting skulls.

buy an Estwing Sportsman's axe for $45, make it shaving sharp and you have literally got a better solution than this hot garbage.

if you just want to light money on fire, get the Granfors Bruks small axe for $120 and you'd STILL have a better piece of gear.

i cannot emphasize too strongly how much of a piece of shit this thing you have shown us is. I want to buy `400 of them, weld them into a big chair, and sit on it while my knights behead you, kidnap your children and rape your women as a punishment for bringing this to our attention.

Uh... are you actually fucking retarded?
You do realise that an axe without a properly weighted head is literally worthless... right?
You might as well just buy a knife instead.

Oh and kys you fucking mall-ninja

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>>32558528
Forgot pic.

>>32558439
Please stop. These "axes" are a fucking joke. It's literally like buying a katana

>>32558321
Buy 12 dollar hatchet and 488 dollar gun.

>>32558321
>priced about as much as a sebenza
>shit fit and finish

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>>32558321
If you are going to go with an overpriced meme tomahawk for your innawoods dress up parties at least go with pic related.

>>32558439
Specs seem okay. quality steel and tempering.

as for the price, who can tell? hopefully it's due to higher amount of manhours per blade vs something bulk produced, but...

Here is quite a similar one from s&w with quality specs but lot less costly.

https://www.amazon.com/Smith-Wesson-SW671-Extraction-Tomahawk/dp/B004PQNBKG

and here is something bit pricier yet.
http://www.winklerknives.com/knives.asp?id=149&big=yes

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Op it's friday night and I'm staying home so I will throw you some cool stuff.

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>>32558702

>>32558405
Kek

>>32558321
because the head is designed by bladecrazy neckbeards. everything is sharp. Quite limiting for many uses.

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>>32558671
>sebenza

The metallurgical equivalent of particle board.

>>32558321
i mean for 500 bucks i want this to be mirror polished, not cera coated.
and the grips desert ironwood instead of paracord.

$500? On an axe? A utility axe no less.

Really? You need to ask about this?

I might be able to understand if it was an artisan axe with some nice engravings or something. Not my kind of thing, but I could see how some people might like it.

But you want to spend $500 on a axe to take camping? Presumably to actually use, to chop wood and other axe stuff.

But aren't axeheads typically large pieces of metal or stone? Wouldn't this thin metal start to deform with use?

Sure, it looks sleek and cool. And the style might even lend itself well for throwing. But $500? For a damn axe?

You might as well just go to a strip club. You'll get the same effect, look at something cool but overall disappointing once you realize just how much money you spent.

>When it comes to a general use axe, why shouldn't I spend $500 on one of these?
Because that's a spoopy tactical axe for killing people, not a thick, solid axe for chopping up kindling and debarking logs for your raft off this damn island.

>>32558818
So would that be a ...Sebenzaxe?

>>32558495
A crowbar and a hammer, duh.

>>32558321
>$500
>hatchet
literally why? You can get a small forge made to order axe with the maker pouring over every detail, for half that price, and even that is considered expensive as fuck for an axe.

>>32558543
I have one. When it comes to a general purpose wood cutting tool, it's a piece of junk.

>>32558321
You want a bit of heavier axehead because if you ever intend to use that thing for innawoods work, you end up using more energy vs letting the axehead itself do some of the work. Otherwise, just go for a longer beefier knife that you can baton with.

>>32558405
Oh man, that was good.

I award you all my internets.
Unfortunately that's worth exactly nothing, but it's the thought that counts, right?

>>32558747

This is the same as >>32558321 just a later model design

>>32558495
Get one with a wood handle that has a guard at the end just below the head. I can't tell you how many times I've demolished a handle because I swung a bit too far over.

>>32558908
>You need to ask about this?

Yes, because I know absolutely nothing about axes and I figured it'd be a good idea to ask a board who does than to blindly drop $500 on something.

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>>32558702

utter dogshit, all of it. tacticool to the max

>>32558321

OP, when you say general purpose what exactly do you mean? What do you need it for?

>>32559268
chopping wood for camping really.

I do want something nice, but I'd much prefer that nice comes on top of functionality and quality rather than the opposite.

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>>32559343

Granfors Bruks makes the best utility axes around. they are properly weighted, forged, heat treated and come with a comfortable handle that makes it easy to swing with max efficiency. they can be made shaving sharp and hold an edge well

for rucking and camping, get the Small Forest Axe, it is under 2 feet long but has a full sized head and will out perform and outlast everything around it. If you want to travel light get the Hunter's Axe, which is half the size but still has the same qualities.

All the other bullshit posted ITT are tactical tomahawks which are deisgned for breaching doors and concrete block walls, and making the buyer into a mall ninja. they are useless in a camp.

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>>32559505

if you really dig the tomahawk concept, consider a traditional military style like this one, which has actually designed as a camp tool for colonial era soldiers and was a trade item with the Native American. This style can chop and split and has a hammer poll for hammering stuff.

or at the very least look for a modern hawk that isn't any of the stuff ITT.

>>32558321
>Lightweight head
>Fine edge
>No practical blunt end
>Paracord wrapped handle
>Might work for throwing, but costs too much to practice with

The only neat feature is that the face and the top of the axehead have edges, which takes it out of the realm of "general use" and into "mallninja melee weapon"

What's the fucking point?

>>32559505
>Gränsfors
Idk what Granfors is...

>>32558528
>Pic related feels lively in the hand for an axe. Only $20-30. 420 steel and not full tang but it seems to function marginally better than batoning for splitting wood and excellent for splitting skulls.

That sounds terrible. 420 I'd barely a cutlery steel. Every shit Chinese and Pakistani knife is made of 420J2 shit steel.

>>32558321
You shouldn't because you could get gun or accessories for that money

>>32558405
You understand that no mass means you need more energy to sway?

>>32559877

an axe is not a knife, genius. 420 takes the best temper for a cutting edge that will take massive torque forces on every single blow and not chip or break.

an axe can be made sharp enough to make a relatively poor-performing knife, but a knife can never ever be an axe.

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>>32558321
Please, for the love of God, just go down to Lowes and get a hatchet for 10$.

>Go to old second hand store
>Buy rusty axe head
>Go to hardware store
>Buy axe handle
>OR
>Go to store that sells hardwood, buy hickory board
>Build your own axe
$30 and a bit of work gets you a good tool that will last you years

>>32558522

Your spell checker auto corrected Hulks & Bruks. You should change your word bindings.

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>>32559846

the letters on the poll are the initials of the smith who forged the axe head. they make a good product. probably the best price v quality balance in this whole thread.

>>32559945
>an axe is not a knife, genius. 420 takes the best temper for a cutting edge that will take massive torque forces on every single blow and not chip or break.
>an axe can be made sharp enough to make a relatively poor-performing knife, but a knife can never ever be an axe.

Complete bullshit. Cutlery steels fill different roles but you can't chisel a turd. 420J2 is shit in every niche. It's the cheapest cutlery steel for a reason.

My cheap Kershaw D2 machete will shit all over EVERY 420 blade. Period. That only counts when 420 is used for the edge and not a buffering sandwich like San mai blades.

>>32561645
>cheapest cutlery steel for a reason.

AN AXE IS NOT CUTLERY YOU FOOL

>>32558321
>maining one-handed axe

Mer detected.

>>32558448
Bruh I got one of these for Christmas when they had free ship + 20% off. So worth it.

>>32562759
>AN AXE IS NOT CUTLERY YOU FOOL

Cutlery steel is the type of steel anything with an edge is made of. It doesn't matter if it's a knife, an axe, an endmill, lathe gouges, a saw blade, a drill bit, a chisel, or a sword, you mongoloid. It's a category for steels that will hold an edge. Not every steel will.

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>>32558796
from experience, these are shitty tools, but once you knock the tacticool handles off they are beautiful for throwing, even the hammers with the spikes.

>>32562909

holy fuck are you dumb, no it is not. CUTLERY steel is for knives and items involved in food prep specifically as well as general use. TOOL STEELS are for TOOLS, and milling machines, lathe tools, chisels, drill bits, saws and AXES are TOOLS you freak of nature

>>32558321
That doesn't even look like it was made with decent production methods. A lot of those uber tacticool companies are just some guy lasering out flat pieces of metal, sharpening them, and wrapping the handle.

An estwing is $30, lasts a lifetime, and a can of paint is $3. You're getting ripped off. I don't see any benefit to that design except possibly being lighter due to thinness, and you can just get a smaller hatchet if your aim is to save weight. The wedge head design is critical for chopping, I'd take a smaller wedge head than a larger flat head any day.

>>32559909
not even reading the comment you reply to

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>>32558321

>why shouldn't I spend $500 on one of these?

because this exists

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>>32558321
It's expensive, but it's not angry. Angry about Elves.

>>32563270

shit at splitting firewood, I have 3

>>32563022
>holy fuck are you dumb, no it is not. CUTLERY steel is for knives and items involved in food prep specifically as well as general use. TOOL STEELS are for TOOLS, and milling machines, lathe tools, chisels, drill bits, saws and AXES are TOOLS you freak of nature

LOL, no. 420 is a cutlery steel so why are you so buttmad about making a tool out of it?

Cutlery steels are edge holding steels, of which certain tool steels are a member. That anon is right, you sound like a mongoloid.

>itt: no fun allowed
You buy that shit because you can and like it, no one here will ever use it as the breaching tool that it was designed for but it's funny to have and throw and fuck around some old barn.

>Complaining about the price
Pls, some of you spend more monthly in booze, cigarettes or vidya shit that does nothing for you so just stfu and stop counting change.

>>32558439
it seems flimsy as shit, and wouldnt it be way too light for any usage as an axe

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>>32559505
>THIS TIMES A BILLION AND ONE!!!

Get a fucking Gransfors Bruks, I have the Scandinavian forest axe and I fucking love it, will probably be getting the small forest axe as a smaller option.

If you absolutely must be a faggot and get a tomahawk, get the CRKT Chogan. It's pretty decent especially for the price, just strip off the stupid fucking lacker and linseed oil it.

>pic very related

>>32563569
From the site itself:

>.25 thick 1095 Carbon steel, 54 HRC at edge
>Overall Length: 18.5
>Weight: 2.2 Lbs with handle

The handle is basically custom to order whether you want some fancy wood, something plastic, paracord wrap or some combination of them. The paint on it is custom to the order.

The weight from what I can tell from reviews is balanced so that it can be used with its weight in swinging from the bottom of the handle for chopping wood and light to be held towards the head for fine work.

It doesn't have a flat back for tapping which a dedicated logging axe would, but this seems to be aimed to be multi purpose and from what I can tell, is good at that.

>>32563492
>420 is a cutlery steel

ok bye you baka

>>32563462

Agree to disagree, i've had really good experiences with that kukri while backpacking, and I would rather have it in a fight over an axe.
>>32559505
>>32558495
>>32558448

pretty much everything else in the thread probably has less inertia than a kukri if it's used correctly.

Why exactly do you need an axe that costs $500? I'm sure there are other similar mall ninja/oper8or designs for much cheaper, and possibly made of modern high speed tool steels seen in knives. I think CPM-M4 on the head with a tang going through a rubber molded grip/shaft would be a great lightweight but heavy duty design and would cost probably $150 max.

>>32563778
Because stupid mall ninja fags and over immature ppl think more money=better.

just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better.

IE Johnny walker blue label is good but is definitely not worth the $150-200 price when Laphroaig 10 cask strength, Ardbeg Uigeadail, and MacAllen 10 exist for half the price or less.

>>32563679
it's absolute garbage made by people that have never had to split a cord of wood. false, fake, fucking un funny, dream on nonsense.

buy this and you are getting scammed hardcore. Nigerian Prince levels of bullshit in the air

>>32563818
I'm a knifefag. The equivalent of a $500 axe would be a Chris Reeve (CRK). Basically same materials as most knives but twice the price or higher for carbon fiber inlays and shit. People actually think that shit is good because it costs more money. Fuck's sake tolerances and hollow grinds don't make up for $100-200 of price difference.

>>32563820

Comparing it to >>32563675, It holds a better edge, only an inch shorter, about the same weight, and the handle is designed to accommodate use at the base for swinging in terms of grip and balance and at the head, which combined with its edge retention, good for fine work.

It's not exactly fair to compare the two in price, but from what I can tell, it is an objectively better designed axe than the CRKT Chogan. I'd hardly call it garbage.

>>32560294
>The world is Mayberry, and I her Sheriff Andy

>>32558532
>cannot emphasize too strongly how much of a piece of shit this thing you have shown us is. I want to buy `400 of them, weld them into a big chair, and sit on it while my knights behead you, kidnap your children and rape your women as a punishment for bringing this to our attention.

underrated post

>>32563905
>holds a better edge
pretty much moot because it's a chopping tool, not a cutting tool
>handle is designed for X and Y
the handle isn't designed for anything, the paracord wrap on that skeletonized shit would eat your hands and give you wrist problems
>good for fine work
which is not what hatchets and axes are for; that's what your knife is for

OP's knife is mallninja Cold Steel two-handed-tactical-broadsword levels of retarded

get an Estwing hatchet and a whetstone and learn how to actually use it as a hatchet is intended to be used. your wrist bones will thank you

This is some high quality bait

>>32563971
>the handle isn't designed for anything, the paracord wrap on that skeletonized shit would eat your hands and give you wrist problems

didn't read >>32563679
>The handle is basically custom to order whether you want some fancy wood, something plastic, paracord wrap or some combination of them.

>which is not what hatchets and axes are for; that's what your knife is for

What is kindling

>>32563739
Dis dudes mad he got told.

Quit being dumb on the internet and people will stop correcting you, my dude.

>>32559343
Liam Hoffman camp axe

>>32563518
>OP wants a tool to do wide range of duties, mainly a specific range of duties
>said tool costs 2-3x more than other very credible and widely acclaimed tools
>OP's said tool is not ideal for the duties he will most likely be using it for

If OP had said he wanted a tactical tomahawk for doing tactical things, then ok. But he mentioned he'll be using it as his general-purpose innawoods axe. If that $500 tomahawk was actually made to suit innawoods functions well, then sure, but its not and he's pretty much trying to spend $$$ on a 24" Sako bolt action to go room clearing with.