This is what happened a week or so ago. >Chinese carrier

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>>32523963
Release by the Japanese MOD

Http://Www.Mod.Go.Jp/js/Press/press2016/press_pdf/p20161225_02.Pdf

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>>32523968
Z-9 embarked on a 054A Frigate.

>>32523963
>I thought Chinese ASW was deficient and bad?


you thought shit

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>>32523978
The Liaoning carrier group as photographed by Japanese destroyers from safe distance.

The distance and bad resolution of these shots are a tell-tale sign that the JMSDF was clearly intimidated by the Liaoning CBG: Previous intercepts and shadowing of Chinese vessels transiting the Miyako strait all have high res photos taken from point blank range by japanese helos.

This time, the Japanese didnt dare to go near, it seems. The first MOD release didnt even have actual photos, but stock photos.

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>>32523994
And it looks like the Chinese have used that cruise to escort their Type 094 SSBNs out into the West Pacific for a deterrence patrol.

>>32523963
so you have something more than blogs and not working links ?

>>32524031
Working MOD release link:

http://www.mod.go.jp/js/Press/press2016/press_pdf/p20161225_02.pdf

So I guess all those people saying we should just mass submarines and get rid of our carriers are just idiots.

subfags BTFO

>>32524107
why not make submarine carrier and everyone will be happy?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6e706acdcc229b7f77ae08866ea62ac6-c?convert_to_webp=true

>>32524046
so this talks nothing at all about japanse
submarine

>>32524134
>submarine carrier
>carries a quarter of the planes and has a quarter of the stealth

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>>32524016
>out into the West Pacific for a deterrence patrol.
To deter what exactly?

>>32523963
>OP thinks subs don't have a silent running procedure that is completely separate from normal operating procedure

>He thinks a sub would use this procedure against anything not actively hostile

Chicom pls go and stay go

>>32523963
Man I like making up bullshit too

Did you know serbian radar is good because they shot down a F117 (lets forget about the whole compromised stealth thing)

Did you know that an SU24 can disable an american destroyer (it never did, but lets say it because fuck it)

Did you know the flanker is a good fighter jet
(couldn't even keep a straight face)

Or that China can reach military parity with the US in 3 years?
(now this is just moderate shitposting)

Or that the Yamato was good and could have won against the iowa
(advanced shitposting)

Or that the DF21 can kill a carrier
(ultra shitposting)

Or that US missile defenses are shit
(hyper shitposting)

>>32524269
>Or that the Yamato was good and could have won against the iowa

implying this is wrong

>Or that the DF21 can kill a carrier

you say that after the US rushes ATACMS back into service as an ASBM?

>>32523963
>ultra-quiet AIP
AIP systems are loud as fuck, what are you smoking?

>>32524239

Maintaining at least one SSBN on patrol in open ocean is the most credible form of nuclear deterrent. The other four of the five permanent UNSC members have been doing this for decades.

>>32524239
>playing dumb to score rhetorical jabs
How ironically Chinese of you

>>32524551

The ATACMs never left service.

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The Liaoning's ASW is pretty good.

Those Z-18FQ heavy ASW choppers embarked on the Liaoning might be every submarine's nightmare.

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>>32524647
Not to mention the VDS+TASS combo onboard Chinese frigates and destroyers.

>>32524637
Yeah, but it never served as an ASBM before.

>>32524693
It still has not, it just an idea, and its basically "put an IR terminal on our SRBM.

>PLAN got guud at ASW after years of boomer bully
Oh no. What a shocker. Who could have seen this coming.

Is this the....power....of...effort....woah.....

Now my japanese isn't particularily good, but from OPs sources there is no mention of any submarine what so ever. To me it sounds like the chinese launched a Z-9 while passing by just to be dicks.

If someone could actually get a proper translation that would be great, but this stinks of bullshit.

>>32524913
I am Chinese

Translaton

Chineese best battle aircraft carry group sailed in Miyako water.
Miyako water is chinas water. Not stupid Japaneese.
China finds Japaneese war tug ship
Japan sees China and make mad.
Japan launch fire deisal torpido boat
Chineese navy launch helocopter to get dirty Japaneese to leave China waters and no come back.
Japaneese tug boat yell at Chinaeese battle boat over internet pipes.
Japaneese say - We fish here, you no fish here , we nuclear you.
Chinaeese get supreme DF21 make suffer.
Americans with large penis get in way
Chinaesse only have little DF21 penis
Chinaeese put DF21 penis away.
Chinaeese feel sad and angry.
More penis battle to come in South CHINA sea,

IT CHINA SEA not japaneese sea

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Show me a more badass coat of arms for a warship.

>>32525116
>DDG
We copy everything.

>>32525066
kek

>>32525157
It's a destroyer with guided missiles.

how should they call it else?

>>32523963
>generic blog

seems totally legit

>>32525066
witnessed

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Flipper! Noooo!

>>32523963
>zero mention of submarine in the article

When can be ban this fiddy cent cunt?

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Now this is super edgy.

>辽宁舰西太之行刚开始,就斗智斗勇,下午五点钟,编队发现一艘不明潜艇企图混入队列中,护卫航出动直升机,一路投声纳,追到了离宫古岛十公里。自卫队Fl5紧急起飞,直升机返回。

>the movement of this Z9 came from the discovery of an unidentified submarine. The Z9 chased the sub with Sonar pings all the way to the Japanese territorial water line.

Taiwanese media report. Cant find source now.

>>32524588
Opium like all chinamen

>>32525256
>Taiwanese media report
>All simplified Chinese characters

>>32525256
>>32525393

http://www.toutiao.com/a6368603704165138946/

>台媒:日本潜艇欲抵近辽宁舰 被直9狂追10公里

>>32525189
Anything else?

>>32525066
no FUCKA YOU

>its yet another zipperhead shillthread

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Ramp is justice.

>>32523963
woah, I'm with her

wait

I mean woah, I'm totally with the Chinese Government now.

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>>32525116
>>32525200
>>32525217

Do they seriously have ships crests like that? Or are those PLAN fan creations? They are too tacky to be real surely.

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>>32527271
Not all are that tacky, but yes. Those 052Ds have the most extreme crests.

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>>32525217
Yinchuan is pretty much Shark Lu Bu.

>>32527010
I wonder if they are doing rough sea/night ops yet?

I've pretty much only seen good weather photos of their ops.

>>32524231
its ok its 4 times cooler

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>>32527304
The Liaoning CV's crest.

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>>32527347
latest one in the SCS was suppossedly rough sea training. No new images in the news footages yet, though.

Night Ops can only be assumed at this time.

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>>32527399
latest pics from the SCS training, which has some bit of choppy waters. But not as choppy as the 1st training video with non-prototype J-15s (around 2:10).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac18wj5GbNw

>>32523963
Both countries are not at war. The chinks were in international waters and had right of passage. The Japs were also within their rights to shadow the group. I think the story is Chinko propaganda since the Jap sub can just stay put and ignore the helo since no one is at war plus electric subs are slow and the helo will need to fly for hours to "chase" the sub. Most likely, the chinks saw a shark and the captain wants it for dinner.

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Latest footages of the SCS training. Suppossedly, this came just after the Typhoon Nina passed the area and hit the Philippines.
Not a good time to be on a ship thb.

http://video.sina.com.cn/news/spj/topvideoes20170103/#250918487

>>32527271
If you look for it, you can find stupid, tacky, and stupidly tacky crests and patches in every military that uses unique crests and patches.

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>>32524551
>Yamato beating an Iowa

>>32528105
Biggest guns in history, motherfucker.

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>>32528169
>Biggest guns in history
Fire control > throw rate, as proven by every single battleship encounter in the 20th century

>>32528169
>>32528223
Read this for a reasoned hypothetical comparison done by Jon Parshall: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-ultimate-battleship-battle-japans-yamato-vs-americas-13737

>>32528223
Japanese math is better than American one.

>>32528273
Some people actually believe this and are in denial that the Yamato needed to range by averaging optical rangefinders with everything being done manually, whilst the Americans and the Iowa class had developed analog computers and radar gun control systems to do a far superior job more quickly. The Iowa would have dropped 10 solid hits on the Yamato before the Yamato could have even got a close miss, without a doubt in the world.

>>32528273
>>32528379
Just look at what happened during the battle of the Surigao Strait or the battle off Samar if you want proof of American fire control superiority. The Iowa had the ability to hit targets over the horizon, during the night, and regardless of weather using radar fire-control where it wasn't necessary to see the target.

Being able to land hits is always superior to missing with a larger caliber.

>>32528440
>Samar

This.

5 Japanese Battleships, a dozen cruisers, and dozens of destroyers only managed to sink or disable 3 Fletchers, a destroyer escort, and sink the Gambier Bay. The Yamato panicked and ran away.

The Japs couldn't even comprehend that a Fletcher was not an Iowa-class, and a Casablanca class wasn't an Essex.

>>32524107

This

Bring back the Iowas while we are at it

>>32527010
>A
>FUCKING
>RAMP

anyways chink posters shitting /k/ as usual.

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>>32527271
>>32528054
"An armless Greek bint standing in a dustbin"
Malcolm Wanklyn VC, DSO & Two Bars.

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>>32523963
To U.S,Taiwan,Japan,India,South China Sea

pic
To Russia,India,Vietnam

>>32528255
>http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-ultimate-battleship-battle-japans-yamato-vs-americas-13737
>HMS Hood is a battlekek
Okey doke

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>>32530626
>China To Engage In 'Six Inevitable Wars' Involving U.S., Japan, India And More, According To Pro-Government Chinese Newspaper

China's announcement last weekend of an Air Defense Identification Zone, which includes disputed areas of the East China Sea, has ratcheted up tensions between China and her neighbors, leading some to believe war is imminent.

The new air defense area includes the airspace above the hotly disputed cluster of tiny islands known as the Diaoyu to China and the Senkaku to the Japanese. International reaction to the ADIZ, particularly from Japan and its ally the U.S., has been uniformly defiant. In addition to official statements from Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida and U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, Reuters reported Tuesday that two U.S. military aircraft have flown around the disputed islands in direct defiance of China’s ADIZ.

“We have conducted operations in the area of the Senkakus,” spokesman Col. Steve Warren said, using the Japanese name for the islands. In addition to declaring the zone’s wide boundaries, Chinese military forces announced that all air travel in the designated ADIZ must be reported to avoid “emergency defensive measures in response.” The U.S. did the flyover without addressing the demands made by China. “We have continued to follow our normal procedures, which include not filing flight plans, not radioing ahead and not registering our frequencies,” Warren continued.

http://www.ibtimes.com/china-engage-six-inevitable-wars-involving-us-japan-india-more-according-pro-government-chinese

>>32530678
>The Six Wars to be fought by China in the coming 50 years
https://midnightexpress2046.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/the-six-wars-to-be-fought-by-china-in-the-coming-50-years/

(This article is the English translation from an article in Wenweipo, a pro-Communist media, published on 8th July 2013, under the title of 中國未來50年裡必打的六場戰爭, which. From translator’s point of view, despite of its naivety, this article is quite a good portrait of modern Chinese Imperialism):

China is not yet a unified great power. This is a humiliation to the Chinese people, a shame to the children of the Yellow Emperor. For the sake of national unification and dignity, China has to fight six wars in the coming fifty years. Some are regional wars; the others may be total wars. No matter what is the nature, each one of them is inevitable for Chinese unification.

>>32530678
ITS HABBENING

>>32530689
>The 1st War: Unification of Taiwan (Year 2020 to 2025)

Though we are enjoying peace on the two sides of the Taiwan Strait, we should not daydream a resolution of peaceful unification from Taiwan administration (no matter it is Chinese Nationalist Party or Democratic Progressive Party). Peaceful unification does not fit their interests while running for elections. Their stance is therefore to keep to status quo (which is favourable to the both parties, each of them can get more bargaining chips) For Taiwan, “independence” is just a mouth talk than a formal declaration, while “unification” is just an issue for negotiation than for real action. The current situation of Taiwan is the source of anxiety to China, since everyone can take the chance to bargain more from China.

China must work out a strategy to unify Taiwan within the next ten years, that is, by 2020. By then, China will have to send an ultimatum to Taiwan, demanding the Taiwanese to choose the resolution of peaceful unification (the most preferred epilogue for the Chinese) or war (an option forced to be so) by 2025. For the purpose of unification, China has to make preparation three to five years earlier. So when the time comes, the Chinese government must act on either option, to give a final answer to the problem.

>>32530699
From the analysis of the current situation, Taiwan is expected to be defiant towards unification, so military action will be the only solution. This war of unification will be the first war under the sense of modern warfare since the establishment of the “New China”. This war will be a test to the development of the People’s Liberation Army in modern warfare. China may win this war easily, or it may turn out to be a difficult one. All depend on the level of intervention of the U.S. and Japan. If the U.S. and Japan play active roles in aiding Taiwan, or even make offensives into Chinese mainland, the war must become a difficult and prolonged total war. On the other hand, if the U.S. and Japan just watch and see, the Chinese army can easily defeat the Taiwanese. In this case, Taiwan can be under control within three months. Even if the U.S. and Japan step in in this stage, the war can be finished within six months.

>>32530705
South East Asia is China's territory historically
South "China" Sea is China's territory too.
>The 2nd War: “Reconquest” of Spratly Islands (Year 2025 to 2030)

After unification of Taiwan, China will take a rest for two years. During the period of recovery, China will send the ultimatum to countries surrounding the Islands with the deadline of 2028. The countries having disputes on the sovereignty of Islands can negotiate with China on preserving their shares of investments in these Islands by giving up their territorial claims. If not, once China declares war on them, their investments and economic benefits will be taken over by China.

At this moment, the South East Asian countries are already shivering with Chinese military unification of Taiwan. On one hand, they will be sitting by the negotiation table, yet they are reluctant to give up their interests in the Islands. Therefore, they will be taking the wait-and-see attitude and keep delaying to make final decision. They will not decide whether to make peace or go into war until China takes any firm actions. The map below shows the situation of territorial claims over the Spratly Islands. (Map omitted)

Besides, the U.S. will not just sit and watch China “reconquesting” the Islands. In the 1st war mentioned above, the U.S. may be too late to join the war, or simply unable to stop China from reunifying Taiwan. This should be enough to teach the U.S. a lesson not to confront too openly with China. Still, the U.S. will aid those South East Asian countries, such as Vietnam and the Philippines, under the table. Among the countries surrounding the South China Sea, only Vietnam and the Philippines dare to challenge China’s domination. Still, they will think twice before going into war with China, unless they fail on the negotiation table, and are sure they can gain military support from the U.S.

>>32530724
The best option for China is to attack Vietnam, since Vietnam is the most powerful country in the region. Beating Vietnam can intimidate the rest. While the war with Vietnam goes on, other countries will not move. If Vietnam loses, others will hand their islands back to China. If the opposite, they will declare war on China.

Of course, China will beat Vietnam and take over all the islands. When Vietnam loses the war and its islands, others countries, intimidated by Chinese military power, yet still with greediness to keep their interests, will negotiate with China, returning the islands and declaring allegiance to China. So China can build the ports and place troops on these islands, extending its influence into the Pacific Ocean.

Up till now, China has made a thorough breakthrough of the First Island Chain and infiltrated the Second one, Chinese aircraft carrier can have free access into the Pacific Ocean, safeguarding its own interests.

>>32530736
>India Superpower by 2030
Hell! No! Did hawkish warlike India get permission from China to be SuperPower?

China and Pakistan alliance defeats India in near future!

>The 3rd War: “Reconquest” of Southern Tibet (Year 2035 to 2040)

China and India share a long border, but the only sparking point of conflicts between the two countries is only the part of Southern Tibet. China has long been the imaginary enemy of India. The military objective of India is to surpass China. India aims to achieve this by self-development and importing advanced military technologies and weapons from the U.S, Russia and Europe, chasing closely to China in its economic and military development.

In India, the official and media attitude is more friendly towards the U.S, Russia and Europe, and is repellent or even hostile against China. This leads to unresolvable conflicts with China. On the other hand, India values itself highly with the aids from the U.S, Russia and Europe, thinking it can beat China in wars. This is also the reason of long lasting land disputes.

Twenty years later, although India will lag behind more compared to China in military power, yet it is still one of the few world powers. If China uses military force to conquer Southern Tibet, it has to bear some losses. In my opinion, the best strategy for China is to incite the disintegration of India. By dividing into several countries, India will have no power to cope with China.

Of course, such plan may fail. But China should at least try its best to incite Assam province and once conquered Sikkim to gain independence, in order to weaken the power of India. This is the best strategy.

>>32530779
The second best plan is to export advanced weapons to Pakistan, helping Pakistan to conquer Southern Kashmir region in 2035 and to achieve its unification. While India and Pakistan are busy fighting against each other, China should take a Blitz to conquer Southern Tibet, at the time occupied by India.

India will not be able to fight a two front war, and is deemed to lose both. China can retake Southern Tibet easily, while Pakistan can control the whole Kashmir. If this plan cannot be adopted, the worst case is direct military action to take back Southern Tibet.

After the first two wars, China has rested for around ten years, and has become a world power both in terms of military and economy. There will only be the U.S. and Europe (on the condition that it becomes a united country. If not, this will be replaced by Russia. But from my point of view, European integration is quite probable) able to cope with China in the top three list in world power.

After taking back Taiwan and Spratly Islands, China has great leap forward in its military power in army, navy, air force and space warfare. China will be on the leading role in its military power, may be only second to the U.S. Therefore, India will lose this war.

>Therefore, India will lose this war.
China is stronk. India is one of China's biggest enemy

>>32530796
>To shut Cheeky Little Japan and butthurt Taiwan up

>The 4th War: “Reconquest” of Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands (Year 2040 to 2045)

In the mid-21st century, China emerges as the real world power, accompanied with the decline of Japan and Russia, stagnant U.S. and India and the rise of Central Europe. That will be the best time for China to take back Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands. The map below is the contrast between ancient and recent Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands (map omitted).

Many people may know that Diaoyu Island is the land of China since the ancient times, but have no idea that the Japanese annexed Ryukyu Island (currently named as Okinawa, with U.S. military base). The society and the government of China is misled by the Japanese while they are discussing on the issues of the East China Sea, such as the “middle-line” set by the Japanese or “Okinawa issue” (Ryukyu Islands in Chinese), by coming to think that Ryukyu Islands are the ancient lands of Japan.

>>32530811
What a shame for such ignorance! From the historical records of Chinese, Ryukyu and other countries (including Japan), Ryukyu has long been the vassal states of China since ancient times, which means the islands are the lands of China. In this case, is the “middle line” set by Japan in the East China Sea justified? Does Japan have anything to do with the East China Sea? (Those who have no idea in these details may refer to “Ryukyu: An indispensable part of China since the ancient times” written by me)

The Japanese has robbed our wealth and resources in the East China Sea and unlawfully occupied Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands for many years, the time will come that they have to pay back. At that time, we can expect that the U.S. will be willing to intervene but has weakened; Europe will keep silent; Russia will sit and watch the fight. The war can end within half of a year with overwhelming victory of China. Japan will have no choice but to return Diaoyu Island and Ryukyu Islands to China. East China Sea becomes the inner lake of China. Who dare to put a finger on it?

oh cute
another china stronk thread
how is smog life going on in beijing?

>>32530826
>Monglia is China's ally, they should help China to beat Russia

>The 5th War: Unification of Outer Mongolia (Year 2045 to 2050)

Though there are advocates for reunification of Outer Mongolia at the moment, is this idea realistic? Those unrealistic guys in China are just fooling themselves and making a mistake in strategic thinking. This is just no good to the great work of unification of Outer Mongolia.

After taking Taiwan, we should base our territorial claims on the constitution and domain of the Republic of China (some people may raise a question here: why should we base our claims on the constitution and domain of the Republic of China? In such case, isn’t the People’s Republic of China being annexed by the Republic of China? This is a total bullshit. I will say: the People’s Republic of China is China; the Republic of China is China too. As a Chinese, I only believe that unification means power. The way which can protect the Chinese best from foreign aggression is the best way to the Chinese people.

We also need to know that the People’s Republic of China recognizes the independence of Outer Mongolia. Using the constitution and domain of the People’s Republic of China to unify Outer Mongolia is naked aggression. We can only have legitimate cause to military action using the constitution and domain of the Republic of China. What’s more, it is the case after Taiwan being taken over by China. So isn’t it meaningless to argue which entity being unified?). China should raise the issue of unification with Outer Mongolia, and to take propaganda campaigns inside Outer Mongolia. China should also pick the groups advocating the unification, aiding them to take over key posts in their government, and to proclaim Outer Mongolia as the core interests of China upon the settlement of Southern Tibet issue by 2040.

>>32530826
and your whole country and half of the urope has been Mongolian's turf since they conquer them in ancient times
would you mind return them to their rightful owners you filthy magpie?

>>32530861
Hush, I wanna see how this goes. I think he's shitposting.

>>32530853
If Outer Mongolia can return to China peacefully, it is the best result of course; but if China meets foreign intervention or resistance, China should be prepared to take military action. Taiwan model can be useful in this case: giving an ultimatum with deadline in the Year 2045. Let Outer Mongolia to consider the case for few years. If they refuse the offer, then military action takes off.

In this moment, the previous four wars have been settles. China has the political, military and diplomatic power to unify Outer Mongolia. The weakened U.S. and Russia dare not to get involved except diplomatic protests; Europe will take a vague role; while India, Africa and Central Asian countries will remain silent. China can dominate Outer Mongolia within three years’ time. After the unification, China will place heavy troops on frontier to monitor Russia. China will take ten years to build up elemental and military infrastructure to prepare for the claim of territorial loss from Russia.

>>32530873
>Russia Should give China back our historical territory Outer Manchuria.
Russia stole China's terriory. China is victim.

>The 6th War: Taking back of lands lost to Russia (Year 2055 to 2060)

The current Sino-Russian relationship seems to be a good one, which is actually a result of no better choice facing the U.S. In reality, the two countries are meticulously monitoring the each other. Russia fears the rise of China threaten its power; while China never forgets the lands lost to Russia. When the chance comes, China will take back the lands lost.

After the victories of the previous five wars by 2050, China will make territorial claims based on the domain of Qing Dynasty (similar way by making use of the domain of the Republic of China to unify Outer Mongolia) and to make propaganda campaigns favoring such claims. Efforts should also be made to disintegrate Russia again.

In the days of “Old China”, Russia has occupied around one hundred and sixty million square kilometre of lands, equivalent to one-sixth of the landmass of current domain of China. Russia is therefore the bitter enemy of China. After the victories of previous five wars, it is the time to make Russians pay their price.

There must be a war with Russia. Though at that time, China has become an advanced power in navy, army, air and space forces, it is nevertheless the first war against a nuclear power. Therefore, China should be well prepared in nuclear weapons, such as the nuclear power to strike Russia from the front stage to the end. When the Chinese army deprives the Russians’ ability to counter strike, they will come to realize that they can no longer match China in the battlefield. They can do nothing but to hand over their occupied lands and to pay a heavy price to their invasions in the past time.

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>>32530893
>The 7th War: War for Hegemony (v.s. U.S.)

v.s.Philippines,Vietnam,Indonesia,Malaysia,Singapore etc
v.s. Taiwan
v.s. ASEAN
v.s. India
v.s. Japan
v.s. Mongolia/Russia
v.s. U.S.

>perfect

>>32525157
You realize things like BB of DD or DDG are INTERNATIONAL STANDARD NOMENCLATURE, right?

i mean how fucking dumb can you get?

>>32530893
so you are fighting against the rest of the world
brilliant
only people inhale too much smog could come up with genius plans like this
i salute you

>>32525200
You sure that ship isn't in service with the JMSDF?

>>32530678
>taiwan (us/taiwan)
>south china sea (us/sea)
>southern tibet (india)
>east china sea (japan)
>outer mongolia (mongolia/russia)
>russian seized lands (russia)
>war for hegemony (u.s.)

>>32528223
yamato was very accurate at close ranges and thats where a fight would inevitably have ended up since BBs always try to close. We didn't even know yamato had 18 inch guns till after the war, we thought they were 16 inch. Iowa would have probably thought it had a gun advantage assuming yamatos guns were the rough equivalent of US mk 6s, which iowas armor would have been suited for.

Not realizing yamatos guns were equivalent to its own, yamato was armored against its own guns, and iowa wasnt.

While an iowa could have theoretically stayed at range and peppered yamato and enjoyed an advantage, and an iowa could theoretically just run away from a yamato and never engage to start with, in reality, if an iowa saw a yamato and decided to engage it and not just call some carriers about it, the iowa would have used its speed to close, right into yamatos advantage, and in a slugging match yamato wins hands down.

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>>32530678
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>>32530913
At this point, I'm certain you are either a Grade A shit-poster or the ghost of Mao Zedong.

China is going to have a hard time winning all those wars in rapid succession, due to the fact that after clobbering everyone in the SCS everyone around China is going to be buying weapons like crazy and creating secret alliances (Japan, Russia, SK and India agree that if China attacks one, they all attack China) out the wazoo. Also, if the USA went in to wreck Saddam because he invaded Kuwait for lending him money he couldn't pay back, why would the USA sit back when China invades Vietnam for the nth time with no apparent casus belli?

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>>32530982
>Wang Qishan,the second most powerful man of China,says "Xi Jinping is God"

China: Xi Jinping becomes “core leader”
http://chinaworker.info/2016/12/05/13709/
The concept of “core leader” originated with Deng Xiaoping, who used it in the early 1990s to describe Jiang Zemin as a way to bolster Jiang’s authority at a time of great uncertainty and instability within the regime following the 1989 Beijing massacre. With Xi acquiring this mantle, a People’s Daily editorial declared, “The party centre and the whole party must have a core.” There is a “dire need for strong leadership” said a headline in the ultra-nationalist Global Times, another CCP organ, quoting an ‘expert’ from the Research Centre for Government Integrity Building.

>China's second most powerful man warns of dissent and corruption in the Communist Party
http://qz.com/851218/wang-qishan-chinas-second-most-powerful-man-warns-of-dissent-and-systematic-corruption-inside-the-communist-party/

China orders officials to stop believing in ghosts and ghouls… and stick to Marx and Lenin
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/china-orders-officials-stop-believing-ghosts-ghouls-stick-marx/

>Call me comrade ... party requires members to resurrect Maoist term to signal equality
Outdated greeting seen by analysts as a distraction and unworkable in today’s world

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2045455/call-me-comrade-party-requires-members-resurrect-maoist-term-signal

>Xi Jinping is Now Officially a Communist 'God'
http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/104766/20161028/xi-jinping-now-officially-communist-god.htm

>We should not worship Mao as a god, says China's president
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10538324/We-should-not-worship-Mao-as-a-god-says-Chinas-president.html

>Mao Zedong was no god, says Xi Jinping
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1390533/mao-zedong-was-no-god-says-xi-jinping-delicate-balancing-act

>>32523963
>blogger's fanfiction

neat

>>32530982
he's literally copy-pasting the article he linked, do you think he actually wrote all that

>>32531004
ok NOW the thread has devolved into 50 Cent posting. No normal person does this shit

>>32528273
Audible kek

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>>32530736
>Beating Vietnam

>>32531004
I see. You are actually Xi Jinping. Xi Jinping being the reincarnation of Empress Dowager Cixi, hellbent on starting a war with all of the military powers of the world. Good luck Xi, you will need it.

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>>32531037
>China'strategy
2018-2019: Finish constructing three aircraft carriers
2020: Can now reasonably conquer Taiwan by force
2025: Renminbi now a global reserve currency
2030: Can easily conquer Taiwan
2035: PLA outnumbers US forces in the Pacific; Chinese economy surpasses US in GDP (already has surpassed in PPP)
2049: Chinese economy twice size of US. China is now the hegemon of East Asia again, just in time for the 100th anniversary of the PRC

This is some fine Chinese fanfic propaganda

>>32531136
chinese damage control?

China is seriously thinking this strategy

>>32531081
>2020: Can now reasonably conquer Taiwan by force
>tfw you're so shit that you have problems defeating a tiny island nation, and have to steal APCs from Singapore, a fucktiny country

Chinaman can you stop shitposting for a minute and get me my order of dumplings and sesame chicken. It's been an hour since I called in.

>>32525217
NO WAY, STREET SHARKZ R00LZ

>>32531159
I refuse to believe that they believe any of this can be accomplished.

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FUCKING CHICOMS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32531268
>I refuse to believe
you are self-satisfied and bumptious person like stereotyped mainland Chinese.

>>32531268
no really, they are all this delusional
it's in their education and how their internet works
they are literally living inside a giant LAN with next to zero knowledge on what's actually happening outside
and even if they manage to circumvent the gfw most of them will refuse to believe thanks to years of brainwashing
it's pathetic

>>32530779
>the two most populous nations in the world throw moderately trained soldiers against each other, wave after wave.

It would make the Ostfront look like a playground

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>>32531336
>>the two most populous nations in the world throw moderately trained soldiers against each other, wave after wave.

>>32530626

>>32527443
under rated post

>>32530736
>Of course, China will beat Vietnam and take over all the islands.
China has invaded Vietnam and been sent home bleeding twice since 1975.

>>32530913
Sri Lanka Minister says pushing for better terms in port sale to China
http://www.economynext.com/Sri_Lanka_Minister_says_pushing_for_better_terms_in_port_sale_to_China-3-6868.html

China to seal deal to manage Sri Lankan port
The Sri Lankan government appears set to officially reach a deal that will allow a Chinese firm to operate a port in the country for almost a century.

The Hambantota Port in southern Sri Lanka is currently under construction through a 1.4 billion dollar loan provided by China. The port is said to become one of South Asia's largest ports when completed.

NHK obtained a copy of a draft agreement on the deal to be signed between the Sri Lankan government and the Chinese firm.

The Chinese entity is to hold an 80 percent stake in the port. It will also obtain the right to operate the port for 99 years. The copy also mentions that the Chinese side will be in charge of the security of the port.

The two sides are likely to sign the agreement before the end of the month.

India Ocean is Chinese terrioty historically.

Name of India Ocean will be deleted and it will be
>South West "China" Sea
or
>"Indo"China" Sea

yeah, Chinese territory of course

>>32525116
Funny thing is, that the emblem with the dragon looks poorly made/designed. It's almost as if your people are in a race for something. Take your damn time and put some effort into it. The dragon was a nice touch though I guess.

China:Sri Lanka is our territory

>>32532452
oh look, chinese internet defense force. china don't own nothin. get fuckd stupid chink

>>32532503
nah, some Chinese people think so that, if your nation against China. China threatens your nation like China is No2 at Gdp,China is stronk! shut up! etc

>>32530630

>had no problem hitting a giant, slow escort carrier after missing several volleys

>>32531030
>>32530736
GOTTA BEAT VIETNAM NIGS

>>32530979
That's... incredibly stupid.

Why would the Iowa close? Its radar would allow it to score a decent number of hits from >10NM, so why allow the enemy to come any closer?

>>32530979

Gripping read, Turtledove. Let's go for another alt-history battle.

>Iowa detects Yamoto!
>Iowa reports it to carriers it's escorting, the only task it was capable of.
>Aircraft sink Yamoto.
>Iowa provides ineffective AA cover vs kamikazes, becomes museum.

Impressive

Truly only China has the strength to unify the world. It is without a doubt that China will be the superpower not only through economy but also militarily and morally. I just hope nations like Japan will not steal Chinese Intellectual Properties.

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Bet the Japanese are starting to miss the good old days right about now.

>>32525116
It's really gaudy looking. I'd like it more if the dragon was more stylized.

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>>32525200

>Blatantly stolen from Soviet/Russian fleet ASW crew patch

China really has no original ideas.

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I don't see how the US, Japan and SK could even hope to compete with the might of the Chinese military.

>China has their best ground forces ready to go into the Korean peninsula.
>Most Chinese ground base missiles can easily wreck most of SK and Japan with ease.
>Long range bombers can hit anywhere in Japan without refueling.
>China is building the most modern naval force in the region.
>Newer sonar has been proven to pick up even the most "stealthy" USN boomers
>Newer radar has rendered American "stealth" useless.

Why haven't you learned Chinese yet /k/? You'll need to know some when the liberation of the United States begins and you have to beg for extra rice rations.

>>32533071
The only reason China even stands a chance is because they have an early game advantage due to proximity. The longer the war lasts, the more it favors American forces, and thats just America alone versus China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

>>32532991
A number of reasons. I should point out foremost however that the battleship doctrine of the time firstly included "having battleships". Something which itself was flawed and so acting like things would have been what makes perfect sense to us today with all we know is a bad assumption to make. Battleships closed because primarily they seek to secure a kill. If they arent committing to the fight they would just run away. Upon spotting the IJN flagship killing it would become a top priority.

Assuming that the yamato had guns similar to the sodaks (which an iowa captain of the time would have assumed) they would expect to be somewhat safe within 8 nautical miles. Closing both reduces shell travel time (which is important as battleships are not static targets on a fixed course and can easily.

In the time it takes one of iowas shells to travel 11 nautical miles, the yamato could have turned a full 90 degrees from its course, which means hitting a maneuvering target at those ranges is down to guessing where they are going to maneuver. The close you get the shorter the flight time.

Assuming you trusted your ability to hit the target accurately what you would do is close so you get within a range that you can predict where the target is going to be accurately, and hit it for sure.

These things combined would mean an iowa upon seeing a yamato would probably first plan to get within 8 nautical miles and then go from there. Perhaps even get closer if yamato seems to be having trouble targeting them.

Now, in reality yamatos guns were not typical 16 inch guns as we thought, but equivalent to the iowas mk 7s This would not have been expected.

>>32533009
I literally said in the exact post you are quoting that in reality iowa would just call some carriers and not engage yamato.

>>32530626
The only way china is defeating the US is either with guerilla warfare or by sacrificing retarded numbers of people to do it.

>>32530724
>teach the us.

This is how you get wrecked hard.

Ask the japs and germans.

Because that 2 year rest will never happen.

>>32533096

I think the creator of the video underestimates how easy it would be for China to replace hardware lost in the conflict, the actual effectiveness of new SAMs, and the amount of manpower China.

Unless the US went full war crime and decided to destroy the Three Gorges Dam then US will be begging for surrender on Chinese terms.

>>32533134
China starting a war with the United States wouldn't matter in terms of warfare anyways, it would be economic suicide

>>32533165
>>32533165

This. their massive population is a double edged sword. China is fairly reliant on foreign imports for food. In the event where China and America would have to fight China would be at an immediate severe disadvantage.

>>32533153
Despite Chinese numbers, they have worse and less equipment and the government doesn't value human life. That reminds me a little of the Russians in WWII, except back then, it wasn't a 1 v 1 of only Russia against only Germany because the allies were spreading German forces thin. Also, in a modern scenario, no one of note would support China, and the US and its allies would curb stomp China hard. Anyway, a war of this scale would be completely stupid for both sides.

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>>32531081

You are presuming that the growth rate exhibited remains static which is not a possibility

China will not surpass the US given their current decaying growth rate

>>32533196
The difference between US and chink stuff is negligible when you realise the main advantage the US has is also China's primary defense focus.

Its fine to claim their standard equipment isnt on par with the USA stuff but as long as it shoots straight and hits its target then it doesnt matter if you have 400 million AKMs or 400 million G36s. Sheer numbers are the thing theus cant deal with. Cost effectiveness isnt a US strong point. If you are being forced to burn $100k to kill a guy who cost $5k to train and equip effectively then you are eventually going broke.

See every war this side of WW1.

>>32525157
>Classic American egotistical ranting

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>>32525116
There is no greater moto

>>32533344
Doesn't actual operational and combat experience count for anything?

>>32523963
the chinks stole all the electronic detection and warfare technology from the USA, so yeah their shit is good

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>>32531081

>2025: Renminbi now a global reserve currency

So your saying the renminbi will go from being so irrelevant that its listed under "other" in pic related to beating the dollar in 8 years?

pretty delusional senpai.

>>32533196

>no one of note would support China

This is doubly true if the war begins under Trump as well. Right now Russia and China are uneasy allies to oppose US hegemony which is viewed as hostile.

If Trump continues to foster positive relations with the Russians, Russia will do anything short of actually invading China to see China collapse, as China is a direct threat to Russia itself while the US is merely an international and economic annoyance at worst and a powerful friend at best.

>>32524134
Or have submarines carried in bays beneath the aircraft carrier.

>>32533344
>China issues NVGs to all troops
>China has same rigorous training as USA
>USA needs to steal APCs from island nations to get tech
>USA actively tries to steal hardware to reverse engineer it
>China has actual sensor fusion and EODAS tech that it can show off
>China has deployed troops of notable numbers to active combat zones in the past 15 years

I'm even Chinese, but this shilling is over the top

>>32533344

>China relies on railroads and long, extremely crowded freeways to move equipment
>US stealth and SEAD are the best in the world
>the US Has magnitudes more aircraft than the Chinese
>USN is magnitudes larger in tonnage and armament than PLAN

Yeah, seems real balanced

>US sinks PLAN
>US SEADs PLA missile positions
>US demolishes infrastructure chokepoints with impunity

Sure, a $100 AKM pattern may be as good as a $500 M4, but that AKM is useless when you have no bullets, your soldiers are useless when they have no food, and your vehicles are useless when they have no gas.

China has a shit infrastructure which is easily choked, which is a leftover from the autistic Communist obsession with railway and "effecient" roadways and other infrastructure.

It's going to be pretty bad for the Chinese, especially considering that China is a net food importer and has pissed off everyone in the region.

>>32533100

I want world of warhips players to fuck off

>>32525217
>>32527271

Do you know anything about the military?

VMM-166 - used to be a direct copy of jagermeister logo, now changed to some other copy of elk
HMH-465 - Ferrari horse

My old deployment patch had basically stole the Chargers logo and used it as a part, but because the guy who made them was a Raiders fan it came in Black and Silver.

>>32524152
You didn't read it

>>32525157
Kill yourself dumbfuck

Those are international standard

>>32530580
>sailed a diesel sub
shutting off the engines and drifting into the carrier group because no-one is looking for you will work eventually, wonder how many attempts it took them before they got it right and PR sprewed everywhere

>>32530724
Historically the entire Pacific is the United States territory.

>>32533736
Where does it say submarine?

>>32525066
>More penis battle to come
The war to end all wars

>>32530893
>first war vs. nuclear power

guess that the dog eater who wrote this doesn't know about india's nukes.

>>32533071
>long range bombers
>literally Tu-16s

That'd be like the US or Russia sending B-52s and Bears against anything more than sandniggers, a total disaster.

>>32531004
Are you a Japanese doing some false flag? I only see shitposter on /pol/ with a Japanese flag whining about this God thing. Every leader of CCP came to power will be called core leader, that's just some CCP office language.
And except Taiwan declare independence, there will be zero possibility China starts a war, it's just not worth it.

>>32530832
Must be good, Trump wants to bring it here and already has increased the vapor brigades.

Everyone pay attention to the Russians, ignore our quantum networking satellite and experience in stealing communications cables.

>>32525116
I've been wondering this for a long fucking time. Something just seems off with EVERY graphical job done by asians. Is it just bad PS? Because it just seems cheap for some reason.

That coa looks like it came off of a box of tea.

>>32523963
This is what's happening ITT:
>Gook shill shitposting

>>32534496
literally every china thread. There isn't a single thread about china that doesn't have the 50 Cent clownass posting a dozen news links per post and posting anti-SK/anti-Japanese propaganda in response to SK/Jap posters

>>32525217
>>32527319

Would pursue.

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>>32533716
Original logo do not steal.

>>32533301

Growth slows, but other problems are getting solved one after another.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/chinas-growth-breathes-new-life-into-old-ghosttowns/article33421480/

>China’s growth breathes new life into old ghost towns
>Tianducheng was once one of China’s many ruinous reminders of unconstrained urban sprawl – but now that people are filling those places up, they’re looking more like real places to live,

http://www.atimes.com/article/soft-landing-predicted-chinas-debt-laden-corporates/

>Soft landing predicted for China’s debt-laden corporates
>The consensus estimate for Chinese corporate earnings between 2015 and 2017 suggests the credit position of companies should improve significantly next year.

Ill just leave this here

https://youtu.be/J3VqF2dXje0

>>32530736
>The best option for China is to attack Vietnam

yeah because that went so well the first three times didn't it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Indochina_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Indochina_War


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

Xi Jinping disposed of over 100,000 party members in this 4years.

What is next?

>>32531081
>Chinese economy twice size of US

yeah okay pal if you say so

>>32534963
>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/chinas-growth-breathes-new-life-into-old-ghosttowns/article33421480/
>literally the Chinese Daily Express

fuck off

>>32537106
>baaaaawwwww my anti-chinese ammunition has cooked off!!!111

Delicious.

You fuckers are on suicide watch.

>>32537089
Chinese people eat human meats. nothing is different

>>32538248
At least their president isn't black.

>Fallout 5: WWIII Edition

You do realize that escalation of tensions can go unpredictably wrong, and the result will likely be all out war and nuclear exchange?

But we're too busy masturbating

>>32538348
>implying a black American is worse than a Chinese communist

>>32533615
>China has a shit infrastructure which is easily choked, which is a leftover from the autistic Communist obsession with railway and "effecient" roadways and other infrastructure.

How many times did your mom try to abort you, but failed? Shit son, that's a lot of fucking brain damage you got there.

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>>32533608
>butthurt about APCs

Singaporkian detected.

ZBL-09 is much much better than any shitty cart you ever will have.

>>32534849
holy shit. Scout Sniper confirmed for Schutzstaffel

>>32536880
yeah, 1979 went pretty well. Soviets didn't intervene, and north vietnam infrastructure was razed. Vietnam became a third rate power after that, devoting multi double digit percent GDP to fortify the northern border while Deng's reform transformed the PRC into an economic powerhouse.

I mean, are you even fucking literate?

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>>32536880
You do know that it was Vietnam who sued for peace and normalization with China in the 90s, right?

The mid 80's border wars financially wrecked their country and they still lost strategically important territories along the border.

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>>32538597

>ad hominem and refusal to rebuke my claims

Okay, I'm going to assume you haven't seen the traffic jams that last weeks at a time, like, you just missed that.

>>32538900
Buddy, logistics in most countries are road and rail bound. You NEVER use airlift only to move a division. Not even the US is that stupid.
Seriously, get a life.

>>32538900
what claim? If you don't realize how fucking stupid your post was, you deserve only ad hom. I mean seriously, just how god damned dumb are you?

>>32538545

a nuke exchange with China would go terribly for China since they don't have anywhere near as many nukes.

>>32539013
nobody wants to be nuked. The above ground radiation drift itself would be extremely detrimental. When China did the first above ground tests in the 60s, elevated radiation levels were detected in the wheat farms in Pennsylvania.

Just because dumb k/unts on 4chan like to throw the nuclear option around doesn't mean it's something to be taken lightly.

>>32539013
It would be shit for everyone if the US and China dumped their nukes at each other.

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>>32530893
>>32533135
>>The 6th War: Taking back of lands lost to Russia (Year 2055 to 2060)

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>>32530678
>Fighting any wars after the Unification War with Taiwan

Seriously brainless. Who wrote this.

When China takes Taiwan, it will be their ultimate prize to eliminate all further needs for hegemonic wars. Once China has Taiwan, the West Pacific is open waters for China, and no first island chain and their narrow straits will hinder the PLAN to become a true ocean going navy.

And with the PLAN ravaging the Pacific, China will have ensured nuclear deterrence against everyone in the world through deep-water patroling SSBNs and also holds the maritime trade routes of all asian neighbors in chokehold. If this happens, the US has to agree with a sharing of the world in the West Pac belonging to China up to Hawaii.

>>32523963
fiddy cent pls

>>32533344
>small arms
>producing majority of casualties
>ever

First it was disease, then it was artillery.

>>32539238
I don't know why Taiwan got rid of conscription. They're in the same sort of position that Finland has historically been in, and where conscription thus makes sense.

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>>32527319

>>32539630
Taiwan still has conscription.

But the people are anti-militarist in general and have low morale.

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>>32533836
>guess that the dog eater who wrote this doesn't know about india's nukes

India's nukes are interestingly enough more advanced than China's in several regards. Much higher accuracy due to Ring Laser Gyroscope, with a CEP of <10M, compared to China's inertial guidance with >+100M.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope#Example_applications

Not even the Minutemen have this tech (although they are ancient and due for replacement). The only contemporary are the Trident missiles.

India fighting on the West of China. Vietnam from the South. Japan, US, and India again from the East. Russia will probably carve out a chunk from Manchuria again to get a warm-water port after backstabbing China. Doesn't really look good for them to be honest.

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>>32539649
>india
>cant even into an ICBM with the range above 5000km

DF-41 was here. Agni is a fag.

>>32539238

>patrolling noisy PoS boomers outside of bastions

just because your missiles don't have sufficient range to hit CONUS doesn't change the fact that this is a worse idea than operating diesel engines below 90ft

>>32539693
With access to the Pacific, actualy making good boomers will be worth the price.

China didnt invest in good ones simply because there was no way to actually use them for deterrence against the US when they cant venture out to the Pacific.

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>>32539670
>cant even into an ICBM with the range above 5000km

India says missile is 5000km only. Chinese military insists it is 8000km. India can target anything within China with impunity. There is too much deterrence for war.

>>32539649
>India's nukes are interestingly enough more advanced than China's in several regards. Much higher accuracy due to Ring Laser Gyroscope, with a CEP of <10M, compared to China's inertial guidance with >+100M.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Go suck DRDO cock at BR forum, Poo.

>>32539799
>impunity
Yeah, then all your poo turn to radioactive poo. Let's not fucking kid ourselves here. Pooland doesn't play in the same league as the Big 5.

>>32539826
>>32539844
>this triggers the wumao

Noted for future reference. Thanks.

>>32539891
tell me, Pajeet. Do you actually believe what you type here, or are you just trolling for fun?

Because if you actually believe it, I got some bad, bad news for you.

>>32539238
>Seriously brainless. Who wrote this.

this genius >>32530913

>>32539921
Yeah, seriously.

China only needs to fight exactly ONE war, if any. Taiwan.

Everything else will fall into place more or less conveniently after that.

>>32539946
China can't beat Taiwan.

They will lose half their navy in doing so and have their entire coastline rendered useless by Japanese counterrattack alone.

Then US cancels their debt payments anf China goes through its largest recession and mass-starvation since Mao thought it was a good idea to kill all the sparrows like a fucking idiot.

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>>32539960
>Japanese counterattack

Not even in Tomomi-chan's most lurid fantasies

>>32539946
>>32539960


This is actually a good and comprehensive analysis about how a Taiwan invasion would work out.

tl;dr: On its own, Taiwan cant hold out. China will take that island in days. The only thing in question is third party involvement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ1Hg8Va_cY&t=25s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdNz3IZwd78&t=20s

>>32539946
>China only needs to fight exactly ONE war

Their upcoming Civil War is going to be the only that is going to matter. Economy is grinding to a halt, ghost city bubble is reaching critical mass, trillions are already being funneled overseas, and mass unemployment is going to follow soon.

>>32539994
>economy meme
>ghost city meme
see:

>>32534963

Your memes are defeated. Try again.
China's growing as strong as ever, with a much higher quality growth than raw numbers.

>>32539990
>linking propaganda pictures

South Korean and Okinawa Bases will detect the movement of Chinese troops before they are even deployed. All Chinese comms will be jammed thereafter, and then the ships will start sinking from the missile counterattack, and inability to do anything about it.

China vs Taiwan is like Israel vs Arabs in 7 Days War. Guess who won that one?

>>32540021
And If any of those bases are used for mobilization for a possible intervention, they will go out in smoke.

China's SRBM/IRBM force is no joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Iem6AQA9M

>>32539994
>mass unemployment is going to follow soon.

>>32530626
related pic

>>32539974
Japan already raped China once. Thereafter Mao raped it again, but more brutally.

Next rape of China will be its Civil War.

>>32540042
>Use all the BMs on US bases
>US counterattacks
>China gets relegated to history books

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- Literally pic related is the 1st phase

- 2nd phase is PLAAF sweeping the skies and SAM shooting down ROCAF planes as they take off (range covers whole of taiwanese coast)

-3rd phase is 12k men of the PLAMC and 30k men of the 1st and 124th amphib. mechanized divisions landing and establishing beachheads, with the 15th Airborne Corp's 30k men dropping and taking strategic positions and occupying Taipei

-4th phase is 60k chinese civilian ferries and transports bringing half a million PLA soldiers to shore.

-5th phase is Taiwan surrenders.

All while the US and Japan is kept away with the PLA Rocket Force's ASBMs and long range conventional missiles.

>>32540105
/thread

China is a joke. They should learn to stop running over babies and eating dogs, then come back after they are more civilized.

>>32525116
Lol this looks like it belongs on a bag of weird frozen Asian fruits or a Chinese bootleg of Dragon Ball Z

>>32539960
Damn son, you must be approaching the single digit IQ territory.

>>32540105
>hurr nuke in response to conventional attack against an enemy that was warned before not to interfer in a civil war.

yeah, grow up, kiddo.

>>32540149
>>32540155
>t. samechink.

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>>32539710

isn't that a catch-22

>boats too shitty to break out into pacific without getting detected and tailed
>current shitty boats can't break out into pacific so it isn't worth unfucking them

also if china can produce non-shit SSBNs if only it tried then why haven't they made a SSN that isn't a pile of outdated shit?

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>>32540172

>>32540105
This is honestly the most likely scenario.

Chinese do something monumentally stupid and are wiped out of existence by Trump.

>>32540021
son, how old are you? Because this right here is some anime fantasy tier shit.

>>32540181
Even good boats cant evade detection when traveling through a narrow strait like Miyako or Bashi. Stop pretending. Look at what happened with Japan's Soryu AIP-SSK when it attempted to follow the Liaoning CBG by just waiting near Miyako.
They got detected.

>>32540105
>>32540136
>>32540199

You are forgetting the War has already begun! Chinese attack will be shitposting on the internet. Because that is the only thing they can actually do.

>>32540199
>>32540105
>>32540136
except none of the nuclear ICBMs are needed to attack in theater targets? Like seriously, how dumb are you stupid fucks? Did you even get your GED?

>>32540206
It is classic 7 days war. You obviously don't know anything.

>Israel detects Arab movements
>Launches preemptive strike while troops rally
>Deploys smaller, but faster force to rout enemies
>Jams all communications
>Wins swiftly afterwards

This is where a Taiwan vs China war would end up. Chinese are behind in virtually every technological aspect. All they can do is spout propaganda about their abilities.

>>32540226
Do you even know what a BM is?

Understand what a Ballistic Missile is first and then realize the moment they are launched, it is game over. The counterattack launch would begin before they even land, yet alone before they reach terminal altitude and are intercepted by THAAD.

>>32540214

Also, the SCS is enclosed by a sensor net.

>>32540155
>against an enemy that was warned before not to interfer in a civil war
>warned before not to interfer in a civil war
>interfer in a civil war
>a civil war

lol

>>32540256
such delusions. America wont even be able to get a single B-2 into China's IADS, let alone conduct any preemtive strikes.

And China's quantum communication lines to all MR HQs cant be jammed.

>>32540105
This, that and most Chinese BMs wouldn't make it to their targets.

>>32540298
Chinese BMs have shit accuracy and are slow to ascend. They are also visually identical to Soviet Missiles, down to the launch vehicles so that raises a lot of question marks. They probably just repainted them.

>>32540181
>if china can produce non-shit SSBNs if only it tried then why haven't they made a SSN that isn't a pile of outdated shit?
are you asking why YOU don't know the answer to this question, or why a PLAN analogue to western SSBNs do not exist?

If the former, that's because you're excessively dumb. And the solution is a .45ACP in your brainpan immediately. Trust me, you want to take this approach, because your life is going to fucking suck since you're so fucking dumb.

Now, if you want to know why the Chinese decided not to pursue a western SSBN analogue 10 years ago, it's due to the following:
1) cost
2) priorities

In the early 2000's, PLA had MANY deficiencies. Obviously, someone with triple digit IQ would plug the most exploitable deficiencies first, and that's what they did. Name, advanced air defense at sea and diesel submarines. (Yuan, 052B/C/D) You know, FORCE MULTIPLIERS. After that, it was power projection and network-centric warfare. (J-20, CV, KJ-200/2000, vastly improved C4I...). So why was the SSBN not prioritized? Because 2ND ARTILLERY ALREADY EXISTS. They already possess the ability to lob nukes around the world, and China's strategic depth and its road mobile ICBM component offered a fair degree of survivability. If the goal of an SSBN is credible deterrence, it can be achieved in some other way, more quickly, and at a cheaper cost. And it was, with land based ICBMs.

>>32540256
>>32540274
please tell me you're a troll. Otherwise, I feel very sorry for you. No one should suffer from this much stupidity.

>>32540275

the soviets were hemmed in by the GIUK gap and SOSUS but they still developed better boats for obvious reasons and even operated boomer of the US coast(with limited effectiveness) so it isn't an excuse for having terrible boats

if china could produce even an Akula equivalent boat I would take trying to sneak through the Luzon Strait in it compared with trying to sneak through the 70s GIUK with its SOSUS, constant patrol planes, NATO SSNs and STANAVLANT frigates in a Victor or November

>>32540556
>STANAVLANT
Hello Oppenheimer. You dirty low level analyst.

>>32540375

I'm asking why if china *could* have make decent SSBN why haven't they made decent SSNs instead of their sub force being 90% 50s SSKs and 10% outdated SSNs

>>32540652
because THEY DON'T NEED TO. Money doesn't grow on trees, you know. Look at all the threat scenarios the PLAN faces. Which one of them involves hunting down US boomers in the Atlantic?

>>32538679
I see the Chinese also like giving the SAW/LMG to the shortest manlet in the squad.

>>32540121
>All while the US and Japan is kept away with the PLA Rocket Force's ASBMs and long range conventional missiles.

lol,as has been established in many threads the 40 DF-21Ds that China has are barely enough for a single salvo against a single burke, much less 3-6 carrier groups.

>4th phase is 60k chinese civilian ferries and transports bringing half a million PLA soldiers to shore.

China would have to move these into position long before the fight begins or else they lose their beachheads. Moving 60k civilian ferries to a single location is not subtle or discreet, hence China will not have the initiative.

>3rd phase is 12k men of the PLAMC and 30k men of the 1st and 124th amphib. mechanized divisions landing and establishing beachheads, with the 15th Airborne Corp's 30k men dropping and taking strategic positions and occupying Taipei

China using all of their current amphibious capacity and air lift capacity can transport 15k troops a day. hence this takes 3 days minimum if all goes well, and 3 days to establish a beachhead is generally not going to work as the initial troops will be thrown back into the sea.

>2nd phase is PLAAF sweeping the skies and SAM shooting down ROCAF planes as they take off (range covers whole of taiwanese coast)

would you like to explain how surface SAMs will be able to target aircraft on the other side on the mountains. PLAAF can take air control, but it will come at some significant loses against Taiwan's own SAMs, and backed up by their air force.

Would China be able to beat Taiwan if it was 1v1, probably; however, it would never be 1v1 as the US will most certainly start shooting at the Chinese and this will bring our friends into the fight by the idiocy >>32540042 which means either China lets the US use bases all around China or attacks them, thus dragging not just the US, but Japan and Korea into the war as well. Add then the European forces to prevent the annexation of a country, and China is fucked.

>>32540256
you sir are completely wrong. Simply put Taiwan does not have the position nor capability, nor doctrine, nor will, to launch a preemptive strike on China. This won't be like the 7 days war at all.

>>32540282
You are an even bigger idiot. quantum communications can be jammed, very easily in fact because the data rate is so goddamned low. Second China's knock off S-300's are thoroughly ineffective against B-2s. For proof see all the stealth aircraft that China is investing in. If stealth didn't work they wouldn't be spending tens of billions a year on stealth aircraft.

>>32539649
>>32539799

Wow. This actually looks quite impressive. Reminds me of the latest Minuteman missile.

>>32541253
Pajeet stop same fagging

>>32541274
Nope.

Just impressed that they had that kind of range and ICBMs already.

>>32540094
>this idiot

>>32541274
t.China

>>32541452
Chinese=Korean

q.e.d.

>>32524269
Pretty good except the Flanker, it's a good platform where today's performance also depends on which version you have.

An F-15A from the early 80s is basically a different plane to ones today.

>>32524016
oh shit nigger
so this was the first operational deployment of the Liaoning?

>>32524269
Yamato would have crushed the Iowa under sheer salvo weight

So after getting more cozy with the Philippines China will just leapfrop from there and eventually control the Pacific unless war breaks out.

Is there any chance that President Trump's anti-interventionist attitude towards East Asia will simply drive current US allies in the area like the Philippines and the Singaporeans to build closer ties with the Chinese instead?

>>32539649
you can literally buy laser gyros off Alibaba
the fuck are you on about, Patel?

>>32524269
t. john burgerlover

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>>32533607
Or have an aircraft carry submarines

>>32544289
Is that a /g/ joke?

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>>32544359
>he doesn't know about half A presses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

>>32523994

>bad resolution

They're in torpedo range, Chang.

The Nip sub could have splattered the carrier.

>>32540695

Where does SSBNs in the Atlantic come from?

A decent PLAN SSN fleet would threaten any US war effort against China by making all USN and logistics vessels unsafe throughout the Pacific ocean instead of only close to China. It would be a colossal headache for the USA if there were Chinese SSNs roaming the Pacific; torpedoing unescorted vessels, placing mines near US island bases, and even launching cruise missile strikes against places previously believed safe like Guam.

>>32533780

kek'd, but also this is true.

>>32538348

Thanks for your display of traditional Chinese racism, Zhao.

The Japs also thought Americans, especially the blacks, were racially inferior and thus would be cowardly and inept on the battlefield. You can ask them how that turned out.

>thread is still alive

guess shilling really can be a full time job.

>>32544506
To show the world How China Military is Strong, they will keep bumping.

>>32541091
>40 DF-21D

Try 227. Numbers increasing.

>Report: China Could Have 351 Navy Ships (Bigger America' Navy) By 2020

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/report-china-could-have-351-navy-ships-bigger-america-navy-18940

>>32538601
1 garlic clove deposited into glorious people's pot !

Have fun reverse engineering the first version of the Terrex !

>>32544573
this news make China more aggressive
lcs was mistake

>>32544586
What exactly is suppossed to be so high tech and magical about the Terrex?

It's just a fucking stryker knock-off, for fucks sake.

>>32533071
Can we still have Bird Tuesday?

>>32533134
You may remove the word numbers

>>32544573
Midget subs and patrol boats aren't real ships, Chen.

>>32544941
are you thinking of north korea?

because china has neither patrol boats or midget subs in service.

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>>32544573

Barring surprises (which may happen, though) this is China's premiere 2020 fleet (ignoring the 053s and 022 missile catamarans).

Albeit, 80 056s might be build by 2020.

>>32544962
Do they have any plans to build more amphibious assault ships? They seem to be lacking in that category.

>>32544590
>What exactly is suppossed to be so high tech and magical about the Terrex?
>It's just a fucking stryker knock-off, for fucks sake.

Whatever ping stole it for lol. Chingchongs can't even into jet engines

>>32545035
Damn u retarded

>>32544363
Fucking hell.

>>32545256
Not an argument :^)

>>32540121
>ROCAF planes as they take off (range covers whole of taiwanese coast)

Why would we take the word of someone who had no idea that radar horizon is a thing.

ITT: Triggered jingoistic weeb faggots.

You know shit is going down when the Uighurs suddenly start coming at you with Javelins vs knives.

>>32545486
They blow up a few civi vehicles and then get genocided?

>>32545568
They are already being wiped out. More like they are given the means to fight back before they are all gone.

>>32523963
Chink boat collection will be decorating the bottom of the sea, Chinks will be starving after US blockade.

what's most hilarious is that all these threads assume that it will be some kind of artificial 1v1, while in reality, the US can literally call half the world for back up.

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>>32538636
>1979 went pretty well
yeah it went so well that you and that Cambodian dude Pol Pot you supported got ass-blasted so hard you have to withdrew all troop without conditions. It's 2 vs 1 and you still managed to messed up.

>north vietnam infrastructure was razed
You didn't even dare to mobilize the air force due to the fear of being shot down, and your troop didn't manage to advance any further than some mountainous cities before withdraw, how exactly did you razed their infrastructure?

Jesus, just what exactly did Mao DonkeyDong teach you to shitposting this hard?

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>>32545764
We'll happily lend you our carrier if it can make a difference.

It's slow but it can get pretty much anywhere.

>>32533100
>Iowa has real world examples of hitting shit over the horizon
>in adverse conditions
>sir we can reliably hit them here and they can't seem to hit us!
>well sailor we better move closers

Bullshit doctrine doesn't mean strict adherence, especially if they are already shelling them and the Japanese couldn't hit back

>>32539799
>US is totally immune to India's shit-tier missiles
Pre-emptive nuclear strike when?

>>32540282
>And China's quantum communication lines to all MR HQs cant be jammed.
this

USA BTFO

>>32544568
nope 227 of all types of DF-21's Most of them are DF-21A,B,C's with only a very small number of the D's

>>32545032
Yes, but not nearly enough to fulfill their stated plans, because in the event of a war they plan on using civie ferries for amphibious ops. Somehow they seriously don't understand that this makes all Chinese ships, civilian or not, valid military targets in the eyes of the west.

>>32544573
missiles strapped to small boats don't really count anon, I mean hell I have a dingy and some bottle rockets thus I have a military vessel!! It is easy to prove that they are doing this crap by looking at the 351 ships and seeing the tonnage is dramatically less that the USN's tonnage.

>>32545772
How fucking dumb are you? Go read a fucking book. 1979 was a resoundingly political victory for Deng. Look at Vietnam after the war and their defense spending. Look at their GDP. You also failed to mention that VPA did not commit its quality forces and avoided head on confrontation with the PLA, which were for the most part category B units.

Go be a dumb fuck elsewhere

>>32535983
already posted

>>32538597
not an argument

>>32530689
Sooo...

They don't have to win these wars, right? Just fight them, and suddenly superpower kind of thing?

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>>32533096
Has the US created shelters for it's aircraft yet on Okinawa an Guam?

>>32546962
ahahahahaha. That it hilarious, I mean seriously you just posted an image where they clearly missed their intended stationary target which had zero counter measures. Given this a simple ECM or Chaff package should completely defeat that missile system.

I mean seriously if you cannot reliably hit a completely undefended strip of land what makes you think you can hit a target which is covered in multiple layers of defenses?

>>32544169
a self fulfilling prophecy you mean?....i could see it with the Philippines but not Singapore

>>32530724
>This should be enough to teach the U.S. a lesson not to confront too openly with China

Didn't Japan try that once? Iirc, it ended badly for them.

>>32540617
Wrong on every count.

>>32547841
China:We the No2 in the world will teach neighbours morals,good manners and some lessosons, neighbours are inferior than China, this is why they are weak and below No.2 Superior China teaches them lessons.

How long until fuckery in the South China Sea escalates into armed conflict?

I give it 5 years tops

>>32549396
many Chinese hopes conflict happend.

If China wins South China Sea conflict and other wars with neighbours what escalates their superior complex.
they can proud of China and their people Chinese like Muh China is great and can push it more

What if China loses the war,CPC will collapse.
then they can say Muh Chinese people were victims too, a political party just did it We did nothing wrong

>>32525116
>ship named semen

>>32524269
daily reminder that there are some people on this board that viewed Independece Day as a documentary

>>32524134
Scinfaxi when?