I have a massive hard-on for leverguns. Poast yours. (pic related,

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Marlin Glenfield model 30a in 30-30

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Rossi ranch hand 45 colt.
Custom action
Custom lever loop
Carbine stock
New sights
New springs
Perfect brush gun

>>32518568
>motorcycle raptor bros

>>32518568
They make my hands sore. That being said lever-action.45-70 makes me hnng

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my late 40's 94 in 30 WCF

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Bask in the glory that is the last and most advanced Winchester lever gun.

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>>32518568
Rossi R92 in .357magnum, 20" barrel

It needs an overhaul from an experienced gunsmith who knows lever actions to improve the internals. The springs are crap.

>>32521985
I've begun the search for one.. I'm pretty sure it's a unicorn, but I need it

>>32522032
Be warned, they can get quite pricey. How much are you prepared to spend?

>>32522052
I realize most are in the 1200 range, but that's just for "American" calibers; .405, 30us, 35wcf iirc 30-06. But I've yet to see one in the states or online for sale in 54r

>>32522052
It's my white whale.. Really, even if I find it I don't think I could afford it at this time in my life.. I cry then, but until that day I keep searching.

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Bought myself a Big Boy in 44 mag for Christmas 5 days ago, haven't had time to get to the range yet, will be tomorrow

>>32524461

Dat brass.

>>32524461
I got a .22LR Golden Boy for christmas, the tubular magazine loading is kind of stupid but otherwise it rules

>>32518568
>Want to love lever actions
>Objectively worse than semi automatics
>No idea why I have a hard on for them anyways

Passed up a model 94 for 375$ CAD, and now there's another for 350$. But I already have a lever action .22, and an Enfield for actual hunting, so I don't really need it, maybe.

i desperately want a .357 16" rossi in black but they are unobtanium where i am.

i may sell my .308 vepr for one, i hear they are good durr rifles (cant hunt with .308 here).

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Henry in.45-70 with my (as of yet unfired) Pietta 1858 New Army

>>32524550
comparing levers to bolts is a bit better comparison then semis

>>32524995
Levers are objectively better than bolt action, though an argument can be made for the ammunition limitations levers have.

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>>32519112
I like your name.

>>32525054
Depends.
Browning makes one that takes a detachable magazine so you can use whatever type of bullet you want.

>>32524504
From what little I've seen of these its possible to have a negligent discharge loading these since the cartirges end up nose to tail in there.

How rare is that. Hitchcock just lower the angle to slow the slide and kept it pointed away fro himself down range.

>>32525054
>Levers are objectively better than bolt action
>objectively
you should be careful with that word. most bolt actions provide a combine a high level of accuracy, reliability, safety, and cost effectiveness. most lever action models can only offer 1 or 2 of those at the same time.

>>32525148
Even with rimfire cartridges?

>>32525169
different guy, but no. it's virtually impossible. the problem is with centerfire and pointed bullets.

>>32525169
No, they're not centerfire.

>>32524480
Dat cheap ass front mounted lever port that will blow your hand off and destroy your gun.

>>32522090
I see one for sale at ellwood epps in canada, not sure about exporting though

>>32527929
>cheap ass front mounted lever port that will blow your hand off and destroy your gun
what is a "lever port"?

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>>32518568
wincester model 94 reporting for duty

>>32527929
do you mean "loading port"? and how is that going to "blow your hand off"?

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>>32528470
it's chambered in .turdy-.turdy

>>32528470
>muh turdy-turdy
how's your mother-cousin doing?

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>>32528498
wish I had one in .treefiddyseben

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>>32528470
>that disgusting post-64 lawyer safety AE abomination
*deep breath*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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>>32518568
someone ID my grandpas gun?

>>32524550
>>32525054
Your autism is showing. Not every little thing in life has to be compared objectively in order to enjoy it.

>>32528534
>pre-64 safe queen
diff guy, but's that's actually worse. these things were meant to be used. wtf is the point?

>>32524550
350 for a model 94? Dude, quit being stupid and fucking buy it. That's a steal

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OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE

>>32528534
>implying AE is bad thing in itself
>implying I even use the safety
>implying us dirty console gaming peasants aren't going to one day unite under our cheeto dust-stained flag as a common brotherhood and outnumber you pc gaming snobs by a 100:1 and finally win this war by superior numbers and basic attrition

>>32528599
Joke's on you buddy I've hunted with that rifle since I was 12 and I've used it as a walking stick while running brush as much as I've shot it; it's far from a safe queen.

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>>32528628
Whew

>>32528634
I don't even vidya senpai nice try though

>>32528655
>doesn't even Vidya
what I suppose you actually go outside and have real conversations with living 3d girls too huh?
what a loser. get out of here you un- virgin

>>32528557
ID what? it's a Savage. it should have markings. are you blind?

>>32519219
That's pure sex. Did you re-blue it or did you actually manage to find it in that good of a condition?

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I want a Rossi in 44Mag, i want to be able to hand load cowboy plinking stuff in addition to hunt with it (IE, Buffalo Boolits)

should i go with the rossi or get a marlin or Winchester (side loading gate is absolute, i already own 2 henrys i know they are nice but i want muh GATE!)

(Pic related is dream lever)

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>>32528639
keep that screw at the end of the mag tube tight and locktite'd. had my mag tube blow off once during a sight check on an Elk hunt once. lost the follower and had to borrow my dad's backup rifle.

>>32528635
I see a little blue wear from carrying it by the receiver. that gun has not been used that much. post higher res pics then

>>32518568
I'm thinking about getting a henry all weather 407. Is this a good idea or bad idea?

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>>32528769
I'm too lazy and drunk to go get her out of my safe and take actual quality pictures but I have like one or two more saved here somewhere

>>32528816
don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with having a classic in nice shape. I was just saying, that for its age, it looks like it was owned by a casual.

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>>32528816
Last one I think. I was bored once and tied a $3 flashlight to the end.

>>32528883
lol

>>32522011
its simple. there are youtube videos how to do it and what to pilish on the action, its not rocket appliances

>>32524550
>buy it
>decide if you like it or not
>if not flip for extra maple bux
>or dont be a faggot and enjoy a 350 dollar lever gat with amazing quality

>>32528797
>henry all weather 407
it's a shittier version of a Marlin 1895, of which you can find plenty of good used ones.

>>32528515
>not 45 colt

>>32528877
Well I admit I was pretty lucky with it. My pops got it from some old man who was the first owner before I was born. According to him it was mostly kept in the closet and had no more than a couple boxes through it when my dad got hold of her. I know my dad's taken a good handful of deer with her and I've taken a few as well including my first. I try not to abuse her of course but I don't believe in safe queens either and I wasn't kidding when I said she's been an invaluable walking stick on multiple occasions running brush uphill. I should get a picture of the buttplate for you; it's easily the most visibly worn part as a result.

>>32528557
maybe a savage 99 or winchester 88. looks more like the 88

>>32528724
if you get 45 colt, you can get cheap cowboy loads, still huntable. or buffalo bore, corbon. or han dload for dirt cheap and out power any 44 mag

>>32528958
>winchester 88
this

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My only lever action is a .22

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>>32528944
found another

>>32528977
>out power any 44 mag
45LC cases are thin. on the off chance they don't flow/split, they will be un-reloadable afterwards. trying to beat 44 mag with 45LC is dumb. you can trim Casull cases, but the cost is retarded.

>>32524461
My dad has one of those. I picked up a .357 steel model last week myself which I much prefer over the brass.

>>32529167
are you blind? why do you sit 3 feet from the TV?

>>32529181
I like to ejaculate directly onto the screen when I watch porn.

>>32529202
kek

>>32529171
i load my rossi up with some hot rounds that my friends dad loaded up for me, he is huge into reloading and trying out different things with ammo, no buldging in the cases, spolits nothing. tried it against his marlin 44 mag. out performed it. its not hard to do, fuck even hickok and plenty of other people on youtube and anywhere on the internet say its doable, and safely if you have a modern firearm. only not safe if you have an old Single action colt that isnt rated for those kinds of pressure

>>32529181
That's my grandma's chair prick how you think I learned about Columbo, the best anime?

>>32529167
>being a stoner
where are you from? Canada?

>>32529235
Possibly even worse; California.

pls no bully :(

>>32529253
>possible
yup. but all fuckin around aside, can you smoke weed and own firearms in california? i used to smoke but my job does random piss tests and the money is too good to risk it

>>32529272
I'm honestly not sure but
>complying
top kek

>>32529279
to each their own. But i care about ownin guns more than getting high, but no one gives a shit where im from

>>32529218
>muh friend's dad
>misquoting grandpa hickok
>random unnamed youtubers
really kid? really?
I never said a modern firearm weren't capable, retard.
your first fucking clue would be that I mentioned trimming down 454 Casull brass, but said that wasn't cost effective vs 44 mag.

the limitation is in how thin 45LC brass is.

>>32529297
>random youtubers
>named one
>kid
Im retarded?
ive had no problems with hot loaded 45 colt no matter how damn thin it is, boy.

>>32529293
I think there's some misconception about California where people think gun owners get searched on the regular or something cause unless I get high as fuck and go to a public range, which would be dumb as hell, I really fail to see any plausible scenario where the two interests conflict.

>>32529297
Do you know how to even use google?

>>32529340
do you know how to make a citation? does that citation include case life?

>>32529312
what's the load?

>>32519131
Capacity- An Bullet

>>32529366
240gr sierra bullets, 22 grains of powder.
and i also have 250 xtp bullets with 23.6 grains of powder, both are "ruger only" but that is code for no Colt single action reproductions.
only data i have as it is written down on a data load chart in my ammo container

>>32529387
6+1, with a looser spring it is 7+1
45 colt

>>32529462
>22 grains of powder.
>23.6 grains of powder
of what powder, H110, W296? 44 mag can run those loads all day, and not destroy the cases. also does it with a better sectional density and ballistic coefficient

>>32529638
dont know, as i said this is all was wrote down. these arent the strongest loads i have, i have my hottest in another box, do not know the data on them. ill take a larger bullet.

>>32529663
well kid, when you finally figure out the mystery loads you have, let me know.

what it sounds like is that you have a friend's dad loading a bit shy of max 44 mag loads, in a 45LC. you're not surpassing 44mag, and destroying the 45LC brass. don't even bother picking it up.

>seen armslist listing for a 45-70 rossi for 200
>It's already sold
Do you ever not feel like not getting up sometimes?

>>32529740
You know calling me "kid" doesn't prove you're right? Or because I don't know the specifics of the load doesn't mean I'm wrong? Shit man google specifics for proof it can exceed magnum classes.

Savage model 99 post-war in 300 Savage
Winchester model 94 in .30-30 Win. first year of the longer serial number

no pics because I'm poor and spend my money on funs instead of webcams

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>>32529462
1. He just played you (LikeADamnFiddle.jpg] for load data.

>>32529297
I had actually considered just skipping 44mag and going with a lever 454 Cas/ but i am also trying to keep the rifle and any aftermarket stuff (because action smoothing and large loops are the sex) i need done to it under $1-1,200. Do you have any firsthand experience with 454 levers?

Side notes.

I have a 45colt henry as well as a 45-70, im good on muh stoppin power and my cowboy cartridges as all that is secondary.

I suppose i should have just outright asked if the Rossi 92 is reliable enough to handle modern hunting loads long term with a high round count of hand loads in-between or if i should go with the "more proven" (read ; older) names in the game.

45 Colt is nice and it is powerful but im probably not going to take it backpacking with me, simple as that. ( I do now because no 44 and LeHigh but that's not the issue)

>>32529786
>Shit man google specifics for proof it can exceed magnum classes.
1) quantify "magnum classes"
2) you get why .454 Casull was invented, right? I was designed to beat .44 Mag, so it had to strengthen the 45LC case, and switched to a rifle cup'd primer to do so.

you're fighting something that was resolved in 1957....

Anyone here use the Hodgon LeverEvolution powder? Does is really do as well as advertized? Because I am about to buy a new thing of powder for my 30-30. Either LE or Win 748

>>32528639
How do you like your marlin?

>>32529866
if you already have a .45LC and a 45-70, I don't see any reason to change. 45-70 uses a lot more powder than .454 Casull, but I figure this is a hunting rifle anyways. unless you have some sick Freedom Arms revolver to pair with it, you sound good to go for thick brush hunting

>>32529906
Did you even try to google what I said? 44 magnum has better factory ammunition, 45 colt has better handloaded rounds. You can't compare something used mainly in rifles to a pistol round.

>>32529906
45 colt and 44 magnum have very similar if not the same brass. A old tale created by fudds. The 45 colt has looser cut chambers. That is why they split, not typically due to handloading unless rediculously powerful trying to match hot 454. I've even heard 45 colt reaching light 454 powers.

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>>32530023
I really want to come up with a valid reason to combat that logic but i dont have one as thats why i originally got the 45-70 / 45 colt hunting/plinking combo going in the first place.

But there is a part of me that wants one gun that is capable for those times when i just want to spend an extended period of time outside and let my guard down enough to think i wont be attacked by bears but still have enough firepower for defense against lets say mountain lion or crazed venison. (but mainly for trying to shoot steel out past 300 and cowboy stuff)

Why do lever guns never have muzzle brakes?

>>32530238
Because men used to be men

>>32530238
I mean, I expected to see some faggotry like this. It is 4chin after all. But really? I'm never prepared for it.

>>32530206
if you want to sell of your current 45-70/.45LC combo, and buy a .454 combo, you aren't going to hear an argument from me. it's going to take an investment of cash, and take a while to find the optimum load that works in both. that's not a big a deal for most gun fags. you then have a ridiculously awesome hunting combo.

if you like projects, go for it. I think projects are the best part of this hobby. my initial answer was just being poor-fag practical.

only draw-back is that your rifle is using pistol bullets. same drawback as .444 Marlin. at close rifle range, the velocity might blow the bullet up on a bear's forehead. not saying it's going to happen, but pistol bullets aren't happy at that velocity

>>32530420
True but that's why i would maintain a box of LeHigh.

All in all i see what you're getting at and probably should just stop getting wide eyed at a new potential project and use the 45-70 as a woods gun / hunting rifle as i originally intended.

<_< which means my gaze immediately turns to blasphemy in trying to recreate a DeLisle Carbine with a lever action.

>>32530504
>suppressed lever action
I like the way you think...

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>>32530532

It would increase operability for tactical "Lever Action"

>>32530163
Maybe it's based on how .45ACP brass is actually really weak and can't be handloaded too hot?

>>32530600
go back to bed anon, the grown folks were starting to enjoy the thread again.

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>>32521985

Why doesn't Winchester make new ones? Battlefield 1 is a huge success and everybody loves the 1895 Russian???

I'M THROWING MONEY AT MY SCREEN BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING

>>32531131
No demand when rotating bolt actions were also common in the calibers.

>>32531131
There's no market for them. And almost anyone wanting a lever action Winchester would pick an 1873, 92, or 94 over it.

>>32531324

Well it's getting a resurgence of interest from BF1 but I would think the commonality of cheap ammo with the very common Mosin Nagant, even using the same stripper clip would be of some interest.

The good- i have an actual (i believe made in 1894) winchester in 25-35, with a sub 10,000 seriál number. (Close to 9700)
Its a family heirloom-
The bad, Its lightly rusted, though I fo try to keep it oiled to prevent corrosion, it also (trigger warning) has a slightly cracked stock and possibly bent barrel... Dad won't tell me much about it, but it seems like someone got smacked with it once upon a time.
I'd like to fix it or return it to a functional state (I dream of shooting it) but am unsure how to do this without totally cucking it.
Ginsmith to check the barrel? Try to refinish/glue stock? Honestly I'm outta my league

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>>32530637
That part is true though, you can't hotrod .45ACP even close to the ways you can hotrod 9mm Luger or even .40S&W, standard .45ACP brass isn't strong enough (there's of course also the concern of chamber support, but that's a bit separate).

That's the entire point with the .45 Super cartridge, it has the exact same dimensions as .45ACP but the brass is way stronger so you can actually load it WAY hotter than you ever can .45ACP, making use of the spacious capacity of the case (.45 Auto Rim can be used this way too, I hear).

What I'm thinking is that the guy is confusing .45ACP brass with .45 Long Colt in what he said.

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1982 Marlin 336. I'm thinking about replacing the trigger with a brass one, and adding a glove lever.

>>32521895
Placed my order for one of his buttstock covers. Starts it late March.

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Here's my Browning 92 in 357.

I use it for CAS and general fucking around.

Quite in love with it really.

>>32532376
.357 is an excellent CAS cartridge in this day and age desu

>>32532376
you use a .357 for Close Air Support?

>>32533402
I liek the way you think.

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>>32524461
Pic related

>>32528475
I think he's trying to say magazine tube is weak or something.

Either way he's wrong and retarded.

>>32531576
>54r
>Cheap
Anon where the hell have you been?

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>>32528711
>Did you re-blue it

FUCK NO! I looked for a very long time for this gun. Old jewish man sold it to me. He said his father bought it new for a hunting trip and he shot that one time and then about once a decade after. The scuffs on the mid part of the stock are real that weird thing on the fore grip is just light. He was a foul hunter and he needed to clean out some room in his safe for more 10k dollar shotguns. Sweet collection. this and ~60 rounds, 700 bucks. Only problem is I need a cheaper one to actually shoot lol.

>>32536294
*fowl

Jesus

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>>32530163
>>32532233
no, you're just an idiot...
pic related. it's a cross section of a 44 Mag (left) and a .45 LC. the 44 Mag is substantially thicker in the web and the base. THIS is why hotrodding 45LC trashes the case, and why loading to 44 Mag pressures are a bad idea.

Henry .22 lever action is my favorite 22. Cycles shorts, long, and lR so its a great platform for CB rounds.

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>>32521985
>>32531131
Inherited one in .30-40 krag.
Smooth as silk.

>>32536433
Are we talking old blackpowder era brass or current brass?

>>32536433
Bull fucking shit.

The .44 Mag case is modern. The .45 colt case you're showing is an ancient, pre-WWII "balloon head" case.

John Taffin and the .45 Colt: http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt45lc.htm

>>32536433
In identical guns:
The .45 colt can throw a heavier, larger bullet at the same pressure as the .44 magnum. The .45 Colt is always at an advantage here. The only edge that .44 magnum will have is way downrange.

>>32519131
I would honestly rather have paid for a tax stamp on a nicer gun

>>32540348
>>32540414
This. 45 colt is the round that won the west, and underrated today.

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My late 60s 94 in 30-30
Not as sexy as >>32519219, but it's still comfy as fuck and my favorite gun to hunt with by far.

>>32528470
>>32528534
My niggas

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>>32530238
...You were saying?

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>>32541108
Shit, wrong pic

>>32541142
>A2 Birdcage flash hider
>Brake

>>32536433
>.45 Colt brass is still made like in the old west
I bet you think modern .45 Colt revolvers can't handle .44 Magnum pressures at all you dumb fuck

>>32519131
Putting some shitty looking "leather" on the retarded loop doesn't make it custom.

>>32525148
That would be accidental, not negligent.

The most under-rated gun on the rack is any full-size Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt.

>>32528498
You mean fuddy-fuddy?

>>32528724
Never, EVER buy rossi. At this point they're nigger-tier guns.

>>32530163
ur a special kind of stupid, aren't you

>>32530238
Because western movie obsessed machofags think they can handle the recoil of the 30-30 magnum all by themselves.

>>32524550
wtf did you find a 94 for 350 mapleydoo's? I'd kill for that. Also does your name start with a B? You type like my friend who has that same setup.

>>32540635
>45 colt is the round that won the west
You misspelled 44-40. The Winchester 1873 was the rifle that won the west, and wasn't chambered in 45 Colt. Colt was basically forced to offer the SAA in 44-40, or lose market share. People wanted a side arm in the same caliber as their rifle. The military and maybe some police like Bat Masterson were about the only people using .45 Colt back then.

>>32542001
Because everyone carried colt single actions on them, not rifles. That is why 45 colt won the west, fuck everyone says the colt won it

>>32541348
What are you trying to accomplish? What point are you making?

>>32541339
Out of the box they're rough actions (if lever guns) and dirty (revolvers) a bit of TLC and they are fine, polish the action and you have a cheap rifle that is a fuckin laser beam

>>32542034
Why should I have to do shit that should've been done at the factory to get a good rifle?

>>32542198
Because them polishing and smoothing out things would require lots of hand finishing, which would put the guns into a higher price point.
So they just CNC the shit, slap it together and rely on the consumer actually using the gun to improve the action.

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>>32541142
>>32541108
Makes me wish Marlin made a "tactical" rifle but which wasn't retarded like the Mossberg one

>basically the 336BBL
>but parkerized/phosphate gray finish
>black or OD green plastic furniture (same shape as original furniture)
>rail on top of receiver (only rail)
>flash-hider (can be used for QD suppressors if anything)
>sights similar to an A2 rifle

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>>32540348
>>32536433

I have to say I love how you two have gone off on a 2 day caliber tangent instead of answering the original question.

>>32528639
I really like that rail on top. Where'd you manage to find that? Would love one for my 336

>>32542340
"hand finishing"

Nigger, stop being a nigger, it's even worse than being a fanboy.

>>32542034
The revolvers literally fall apart.

>>32529784
Ayyy Pittsburgh bro.

Really regret not picking one up when they were like 350 a couple years back.

>>32541328
proven round still does exactly what it was designed to do and does it well

if it ain't broke.....

>>32541096
are you posting from Australia again?

>>32542017
I really don't want to believe you could be this stupid

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>>32544007
You lost me at A2 sights.i would also rather just see a threaded barrel and thread protector. You're basically asking for a Grizzly custom though. Just go with a ghost ring or skinner sights from there

>>32544204
diff guy but have a similar set-up. the rail is made by XS Sight Systems. expensive for what they are and if I had to do it over again I wouldn't have bought one for mine.

>>32545166
I don't mean like a carryhandle

>>32544204
What this guy said >>32545300. Also, it came with the 1895 SBL that I got.

>>32529989
Probably my favorite of the 20+ guns I either own or have owned. I want to get a 44 mag 1894 now so I can pack one ammo for my revolver and rifle.

>>32541556
It's a bubba 94 with a shortened mag tube and other questionable modifications, but still a solid shooter.

Nope, not a B.

>>32545300
I will take that into consideration. Thanks for. The info mang
>>32546233
Thank you too broheim

>>32528740
On a 336? Jesus that sounds sketchy as hell

>>32518568
Want a supressed marlin 94 in .357 so bad. Theres some .38 loads that are whisper quiet.

>>32545678
I know what you meant, but the skinners give the same functionality without looking out of place like a Daniel defense rear would, or the way LPA ghost rings already do. Plus you could always opt for a tang sight or keep the stock sight, both or which can fold out of the way and won't need a ten kinds of bullshit to be same plane

>>32530163
No
it
Doesn't.

Those cases split from working the brass and roll crimp.

Please- educate us: What gun, and by how much- specifically?

>>32541432
Manlet Detected.

>>32541432
>the recoil of the 30-30 magnum
>.30-30
>magnum
>.30-30
>recoil
It's roughly comparable to 7.62x39mm you fucking sissy faggot, it's nothing.

>>32529167
My man. People who like guns and toke are like instant friends for me