CADOJ says newly registered salt guns can't have bullet

>>32488853
>California has unfavorable gun laws

No way!?

>>32488853
Damn shame only a few are going to be registered

Confiscation soon, registrytards

>state says register your shit
>no one registers their shit

This is what happened in Jew York.

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Why do you guys even post about California anymore? Do any fucking faggots here even live there?
If you do you're immediately a fucking idiot.
The weather, women, work, and roadways are not worth it.
Please kill yourselves if you ever register your guns.

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>>32489101
Why is there always some faggot who comes into threads about CAs shitty legislation that wants to crap on CA gun owners?

>>32488853

daily reminder to not register your firearms because they will take it.

daily reminder to not comply

>>32488853
And there are fucking people who were going to/already have registered their guns.

Kek

>>32488853


>san bernadino style attack happens next year
>perps had unregistered rifles they bought in nevada
>california decides enough is enough and confiscates the firearms of the people who registered their guns in california
>mass shooting happens again
>this time with a handgun
>states registers handguns
>makes some stupid shit like if it has a barrel is has to be regitered
>crime wave hits LA
>state takes all guns from private individuals
>crime rates sky rocket
>more shooting
>the state still hasnt realized that the people who will commit crimes with guns, wont register their shit any way.

jesus and here i was in nc thinking a permit to purchase a pistol was Australia tier

How are they going to get weapons to fight Trump?

>>32490083
Picture is a poor analogy. Your shitty state's problems don't impact me.

We just come here to laugh at you. Move faggot.

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>>32490252
>FUCKING CALIFORNIANS ARE IDIOTS MOVE OUT OF YOUR STATE
>FUCKING CALIFORNIANS MOVING TO MY SHITTY FLYOVER STATE GET OUT REEEEEEE

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>>32490083
>>32490252
fix'd

>>32490217
>>california decides enough is enough and confiscates the firearms of the people who registered their guns in california
You would think they would wait for 'good' compliance numbers.

>>32488908
>Damn shame only a few are going to be registered
I went to calguns and that whole damn site is full of mall ninjas bending ass backwards to modify their rifles and/or ask retarded questions how to register their evil scary rifles.

>>32490252
problem is other states see this and try to follow suit. e.g. clark county in nevada and soon to be cucked oregon and washington

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>>32490252
>Your shitty state's problems don't impact me.

nigger if any of this shit goes to the supreme court and, god forbid, gets ruled as constitutional you can bet your ass its going to be rolled out by gun grabbers in other states. Places like NY and CA are the beta testing grounds for 2a disenfranchisement

>>32490359

im curious to know if the state actually believes that people will register their guns

my bet is thatll be 40/60 compliant/non complaint

>>32490384
why else would you buy an ar15 with a BB LUL

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>>32490279

What's with Californians and this love to call other states flyover?
You do recognize your state is worse in the hobby you post about on 4chan than those flyover states.
The only reason to stay in California is if you have family members you love that are anchored by law or health.

So get the fuck out.
Shit, selling your house will probably buy you two or three in a "flyover" state.

>>32490217
I thought all guns in California purchased after a certain year are registered? Isn't DROS registration?
>mass shooting happens again
>this time with handguns
Funnily enough, I think Elliot Rodger used some legally purchased, California roster approved handguns. Ten round magazines and all. I don't recall any backlash from that.

>>32490449
I guess at that point, we march on the capitol then, huh?

>>32490384
That's because nobody wants to admit online that they're going to break the law

>>32490449
and you nigger fucks let that happen

The way I see it you guys may as well be ISIS because you're practically doing the same un-American shit

>>32490154
OP here, I ain't registering shit nor was I ever planning on it. Some other Califags were trying to say if they registered their Bullet Button guns they could swap em for regular mag releases.

>>32490617
That's what everyone was hoping for.
Haw haw.

>>32490585
>be born into an anti American land
>have different opinions from everybody else
>vote for guns and freedom
>lose, unsurprisingly
>HURR IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT

>>32490617
that's the same just going to kydex all my guns and bullet lock my ar. that's the only pro and even when you tell them the cons they're just like but I can use regular mag release.

>>32490653
>be savage commie fuck
>move to other states
>vote the same shit in

Yea it's your fucking fault. Fucking neck yourself you fucking faggot. You and your state are the reasons america is dying

>>32490653
Should have fought harder. Failure has consequences.

You do not pass the Free American citizen ship test. Stay in your bantustan, you contribute nothing and your lazy reluctance to fight for freedom is not welcome here in uncucked Free America.

The CADOJ likes to make up lots of regulations where they have no authority to do so. These usually get thrown out. The doj can pretend that the law creates a new classification of registered assault weapon but it doesn't.

seriously they had one fucking job: make you want to register your shit. they failed miserably at that. no one is going to register if there isn't any benefits to doing so when there are other methods that keep you legal.

>>32490552
they're in a database but not registered as assault weapons

>>32490585
the democrat:republican voting results were 2:1 for the presidential election. outnumbered is putting it lightly.

>>32490699
Nigga wat
Those commie pinko fucks are not the same people who want gun rights
>>32490703
You should have fought harder to stop gun control from developing at all. The NFL, GCA, Hughes Amendment, 1994 awb are all your fault.

>>32490552
All rifles purchased legally starting in 2014 IIRC are automatically registered with the state.

Practically all legally purchased handguns are registered with the state through dros after a certain date but I couldn't tell you.

>>32490747
Doesn't matter. Few years ago the dems pushed through a complete semi-auto with detahcable magazine ban and only a veto from Brown stopped it. Now the dems have a super majority so they could override a veto. If you're firearm is registered with the state in any way consider it on loan till Gavin Newsome becomes gov.

>>32490519
>Shit, selling your house will probably buy you two or three in a "flyover" state.
sadly very true.

>>32488853
Say this bullshit does come to our states too, what do we do? Go kill the lawmakers? I worry that'll only cause more gun control but it'd be the American thing to do looking at our history. Being completely serious.

>>32490756
must suck not having balls huh? Are you cunts going to have to register and ban those too, soon?

>>32490804
are you suggesting people take up firebombing as a hobby?

>>32490776
>Few years ago the dems pushed through a complete semi-auto with detahcable magazine ban and only a veto from Brown stopped i
I thought Brown was an anti gun fuckface

>>32490828
He changes depending on the political climate. He didn't veto things this year

With all the secessionist talk coming from California and the increasingly neurotic, unstable leftists, is anyone else glad that Califaggots have cucked themselves?

Seriously, it may be the one thing preventing a mass leftist insurrection at this point. It's good to know that they will be completely ineffective at their pitiful attempts to stop us from Making America Great Again.

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>>32490575
>implying Americans have any sort of backbone to stand up for themselves anymore

>>32490828
he is but hes 50/50 but every republican senator we get always tell voters not to vote for them if they want gun rights because they don't care

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>>32489099
95% non-compliant rate, probably because the overwhelming majority of people who own firearms in NYS aren't retarded democrats.

>>32490859
you won't ever see americans have backbones when they have internet and comfort but one day that'll go out and it will be the day

>>32490863

At least here in NJ, any sort of complaint is instantly snuffed out because the State is super Democrat and you get mobbed by a tsunami of "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" soccer moms who never fucking shut up about Sandy Hook.

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do at this point.

>>32490886
see
>>32490821

>>32490821
I suggest microbiology as a hobby ;^)

>>32490519
this

>>32490575
The states or the federal capital?

Makes no sense to march on a republican pro gun federal government, but marching on the state capital would make the federal government push harder for gun rights, likely in a negotiation. Unless, it's done by complete retards.

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>>32490955
How would you propose I bare-ass fart on a lawmaker's pillow when I'm settled in and comfy?

>>32490699
>>32490703
I'm sure you're doing your part.
Oh wait, that's right, you don't need to, do you?
No you're fine where you are, meanwhile, in this fuckhole, 1/3 of the state lives in LA, and guess which way they vote? Even if everyone out of the cities voted progun, we'd lose 51/49, it's how it "works" here. Dozens and dozens of consistent actions by progun CA folk to fight these laws, and it only slows them down at best. We're doing our part, it's you fucks, complacent and content in your decent states, that aren't backing US up. If you'll allow a history refresher:
>First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.
>Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
>Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
>Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Feelings on where that comes from aside, the point is airtight, and solid.
You can justify inaction with finger pointing, or you can practice what you preach. We're on the front lines of the shit you red-state folk only get to theorize about happening to your home.
Even if you were both joking or fucking around, it's not funny to us. We actually have to live in this God-forsaken hellhole, unlike yourselves.
And you try saving up moving-outta-state money with the cost of living in this fuckhole.

>>32491651
>First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.>>Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
>Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
>Then everything was pretty much fixed
FTFY

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>>32491675
I laughed.

>>32488853
Wait, why would they do this? This wasn't even included in the wording of SB 880.
So what now, just go ahead and fucking go featureless to remove the bullet button altogether?

Also, fucking stupid California gun owners. They literally did not mobilize to vote against this stupid bullshit. We had a chance to vote and we all got destroyed at the signature run and the ballot box.

>>32491723
>Wait, why would they do this?

Because California.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/california-democrats-legalize-child-prostitution/article/2610540

>>32490083
lmao no one can do anything about cali's shitty gun laws

>>32488853
Leave the US already you faggots.

>>32490552
>DROS registration?
its secret registration, that they claim they dont have access to, but also admit have never destroyed the records for like they are supposed

>>32490641
>>32490617
well thats because too many fagots on calguns were making threads left and right about "OH YAY IM HAPPY! I DONT MIND REGISTERING SINCE I CAN TAKE MY BULLET BUTTON OFF!"

>>32491911
Oh for fuck's sake.

CA does some stupid shit, but what they decriminalized is BEING a child prostitute, not pimping or soliciting them.

>>32491967
>getting rid of the one thing they used to get underage prostitutes to turn over their pimps and clients
It's probably pedo legistlation through and through.

>>32491723
because DOJ doesnt give a shit about the laws, kamala harris and all the top DOJ leader brass have always wanted to fucking destroy gun rights in california.

DOJ has been sued or lost court cases numerous times due to their own rules not backed by law. they dont care because its taxpayer money and attorneys that defend that shit, and they can bleed out private citizens with costly litigation and also use the threat of said litigation to keep peasants compliant

It was all over Reddit too.

>>32491723
>They literally did not mobilize to vote against this stupid bullshit
>zero media coverage in a blue coastal state with 37 million people in it
>unpopular-opinion group having to rely on email, social media (yeah right, like most people would out themselves in this state, sad as it is) and one-on-one communication to gather support against these ballot measures
>to say nothing of gerrymandering and lobbying
>hurr you didn't do enough
I'm sure you put in time to help the cause for groups in need nationwide, with big talk like that, right anon?
Surely you're not just shit talking some downtrodden CA-peasants on a Korean flip-book forum
You know those gun-grabber horror stories people imagine where they turn big and small media against you so you can't fight back as a whole, and are forced into pockets of isolated resistance where they can legally steam-roll over your postion? That's reality here. It's not for lack of trying.
We are, by how the system is set up here, essentially banned from being able to win beyond a fluke here and there in a midterm election or something like that. Shit even that sounds like a far off fantasy.
We'd love to win, but we may as well be in New York. Even to get just a 2% swing in population to our side would be almost 1million people. 1 million California people mind you.
And you wonder why we aren't winning, LOOK WHERE WE ARE. We aren't giving up by the looks of it, but unless things change, we're just going to keep fighting to delay these things, only hoping to stop them later in court with NRA support if we're lucky.
>shit talking the people who're on your side
Yes good goy, stay divided and internally contentious. You're stronger apart than you are united.

Update from FPC. So if you want to convert your salt gun to featureless be prepared for an ass ramming.

>If the firearm has been modified or reconfigured to no longer meet the definition of assault weapon, one or more photographs clearly depicting the firearm in its current configuration shall be attached to the written deregistration request. Additional information, photographs, or inspection may be requested by the Department before determining eligibility for deregistration.

>>32491723
one thing that other voting initiatives have is money behind them. professional signature gatherers who get paid per name they have on the paper do a hell of a lot better. california gun owners had barely a month to get things together and it was all volunteer run.

>>32492213
basically they're not going to get many registrations at all. why bother registering when you can go featureless? nevermind the guys who don't even know about this registration thing won't do it period. there's going to be a shitload of felons who don't even know it. all they know is that they bought this gun with the mag lock and it's supposed to be legal.

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>>32490801
No, you can't kill anyone. It would be like killing a cat that shit on your bed. You still have cat shit on your bed, and now you have to deal with the dead cat.

I know it is cliche, but the pen really is mightier than the sword. Protect your rights by keeping pro gun legislators in office. Get your family, friends and neighbors into guns by taking them out to shoot/sporting clays/hunt. And for the love of fucking god don't let your state legislature, governors, and DA turn blue like CA.

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>>32491984
>>32492047
Thanks for articulating what I'm thinking.

>>32491723
Fuck you too, buddy. I worked my ass off to get people to sign the petitions. I made people into first-time gun owners. I take the fence-sitters shooting, and convince them that shooting can be a safe, fun and constructive hobby.

What did you do to make a difference? Bitch on a iraqi grade school bulletin board?

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>>32492213
>If the firearm has been modified or reconfigured to no longer meet the definition of assault weapon . . . inspection may be requested by the Department

this will end well . . .

>>32488853
Calguns will win this lawsuit

>>32490859
BLM DOE
>>32494219
which one, they have like 10 groups lul

>>32492258
>>32494113
It's interesting, CADOJ have gone far and beyond to discourage people from complying. I'd expect most people to continue on not giving a fuck or convert to featureless.

>>32491651
We are doing our part. Notice that the country just elected a Republican house, senate and president. We cant vote in your elections, but we can take over our state and federal houses of legislation

>>32490519
Conceit

>>32490384
Seriously, what am I supposed to do? I will be a fucking felon if I don't bend over for this shit. Also moving isn't exactly an option for a lot of people.

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>>32495915
Only other option besides hiding shit is storing it out of state, either with relatives you can trust or at a locker in a range.

It sucks but if anything you own is registered with the state (including all rifles after 1/1/2014) consider your guns on loan from the state until Gavin takes office, or possibly as soon as July.

>>32494219
>>32495428
Calguns, FPC, CRP, etc. all have lawsuits going on, but the 9th circuit is practically worthless and getting to SCOTUS even if it was pro-gun under Trump could take years while Cali dems can throw anti-gun bills at the legislature as fast as they can type and print them. Expect a rush to push through as many anti-gun bills as possible once Trump takes office.

I'm still going to register, and I'm still going to take the mag lock off. There is nothing in the PC that supports that regulation. There is no crime I can be charged with. I would happily be the test case, if that is necessary.

James Yeager was right, the vast majority of gun owners in California have a slave mentality, the Califags over here probably don't even acct for 1% of all gun owners in their state. Essentially fudds e non-constitutionalists ruining everything for everyone.

>>32497500
If you want to position yourself as a test case be my guest, but I hope for your sake you have money, political connections, and a really good lawyer.

If you're ok with the possibility of losing your firearm rights forever and spending years in jail along with being pretty much fucked for the rest of your life god speed.

Regardless though, don't register shit, don't comply, that's just my opinion.

>>32495915
>moving isn't exactly an option for a lot of people

If you are in commiefornia it should be a primary goal to figure out how to get out of commiefornia.

>>32497656
>there's a possibility you might end up a felon
>instead, you should make sure you end up a felon

>>32497680
It's a felony either way unless DOJ has a lesser penalty for removing a bullet button from a newly registered "Assault Weapon" which I can't imagine they would because the charge will be manufacturing/possessing an illegal gun either way.

I'm not a lawyer but I would say you would have a better chance challenging the registration requirement itself, rather than registering your gun, then flaunted DOJs regulations.

>>32497791
The draft regulations CADOJ just released are an illegal overreach. There is nothing in the Penal Code that gives them the authority to require the bullet button remain on once the firearm is registered as an assault weapon. There is no crime to be charged with. No penalty to face.

It is, however, most certainly a crime to fail to register or modify a bullet buttoned firearm by the end of 2017. The penalties for possession of an unregistered assault weapon are clear.

>>32497843
That's a fair point, but we know DOJ and Cali make up shit all the time without any kind of recourse just like FTB.

They are effectively creating 2 tiers of salt guns, there's nothing in the law that actually says they can do that right?

>>32497853
the law literally says they can make up the regulations

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=30900.&lawCode=PEN

(5) The department shall adopt regulations for the purpose of implementing this subdivision. These regulations are exempt from the Administrative Procedure Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code).


im sure it will be challenged in court

>>32497888
That's what I thought, so they can basically make law on their own and there's nothing you can do about it besides hope to fight it out in court. Well with a pro-gun SCOTUS we might see some rectification in about 5-7 years.

>>32497951
When there are already a shitton more illegal laws and regulations.

At this point if you are in California you need to have a plan to escape immediately. I left roughly 4 years ago and have been fighting the fight in Nevada against the hispanic horde.

If you are still in the land to the west now you should have already left. If you haven't, get out now. The next legislative session could bring something 10x worse and frankly I wouldn't want to be around to see it.

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Fuck California

So, I was under the impression that rifles and handguns are automatically registered when you buy them in CA. So, there is proof of ownership even if someone doesn't register their AR again. Could they conceivably go out of their way to track down people who bought this gun a year ago but didn't re-register it this year?

>>32497843
>>32497853
>>32497888

CA DOJ did this shit before with the Kasler AR/AK receiver list a decade ago; even if registered, a Kasler-list AW had to be featureless or BB because the big cities say fuck you give 99% of your income as taxes you worthless CIS scum we don't need to follow laws we just make them and force you to.

And I fucking told you guys this shit would be Kasler 2.0.

None of you listened.

>>32498002
>Kasler

What?

>>32488853
When are the cuckfornians going to fight back?

>>32498012

Kasler v. Lockyer, aka the Kasler list.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/awguide.pdf

Note how it's 96 pages of bans.

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>>32488853
We seriously need to do something about California and the PNW.
It's out of control, Seattle, Olympia, Portland, all havens for unabashed Communists and Anarchists.

>>32497994
Yes, Absolutely.

>>32498002
I listened and I assumed DOJ would pull this kind of BS well before the regs were being issued. I knew many cities in Cali were flaunting the state's preemption laws as well as ignoring 9th circuit rulings (Like LA having a retired cop carve out in their mag ban)

>>32497888
You're failing to parse the law properly. Their ability to implement regulations is limited in scope. They cannot create a new class of assault weapon through regulation alone.

>>32498091

Note how CA DOJ doesn't give a shit about things like laws or constitutions, and that CA (and 9th circuit) courts basically just rubberstamp their illegal actions.

They've done it many times before, and none of it has hit SCOTUS yet that I know of.

>>32498002
Category 2 RAWs can be reconfigured with all the Category 3 features you want, guy. What you can't do is make them featureless and de-RAW them.

>>32498119
>32498119
That's because the state of California claims that when it comes to gun laws that the Supreme Court has no jurisdiction.

It has been that way since 1996

>>32498075
>honest to God anarchist
>being behind ANY state sponsored laws
Do you understand what an anarchist is?

>>32498150

Read the actual article.

>Update 6 – 12/30/16 – Apparently, once a firearm is a “Bullet-Button Assault Weapon,” you’re stuck with it unless you reconfigure the firearm and de-register it as an AW: “The release mechanism for an ammunition feeding device on an assault weapon registered pursuant to Penal Code section 30900, subdivision (b)(1) shall not be changed after the assault weapon is registered.”

So yes, it's the Kasler list all over again. Registered or not, you can't turn it into a detachable-mag AW if you registered it with a BB attached. You can't switch Categories because CA DOJ says fuck everything we're above the law.

>>32498158

Sounds about right.

>>32498194
>Read the actual article.
I've read the entire draft regulation, and all the relevant penal codes, my friend.

The proposed regulations would create a de facto Category 4. But there is nothing in the penal code that justifies such an action. It is illegal. It will be struck down in court if the CADOJ does not revise.

You are also completely wrong about Kasler v Lockyer. As I already said, Category 2 RAWs (Kaslers) can be configured with all the Category 3 features you wish. You have never been able to be convicted of manufacturing an AW from a RAW. It is explicitly prohibited by law.

>>32488853
List of things to come in California.

>Liability Insurance and registration for ALL firearms.
>"Safe" Storage Requirements
>Duty to retreat
>Complete Semi-Auto Ban
>Complete ban on rimfire firearms
>Hi-Capacity Revolver Ban
>Pump Action Shotgun ban
>1 gun every 30 days
>5 round magazine capacity
>CHP controlled CCW Permits with a "Clear and Present Need" Standard
>Muzzle Energy limits
>Ammunition possession limits
>Airsoft and Airguns DROS requirements
>Ban on juvenile possession or use of firearms
>Eventual Licensing for possession of firearm

Basically, at this point you all are in endgame.

There is no fixing this. You will eventually be told to turn them in and they will come with the SWAT team in the middle of the night.

GG california.

>>32498254

Nothing ever seems to go high enough in 9th circuit to give us a chance at striking it down, and we know CA state courts are DOJ's rubberstamp at all levels. Fucking 9th rules CA DOJ's way and then it gets stuck en banc or whatever for the next three decades. Also, CA DOJ arresting/prosecuting people for putting AW features on Kasler guns was a fairly big thing back in the day, thanks to Iggy Chinn and his ilk. You remember him, right? The only DOJ agent to lose a live-fire gunfight to his own office desk?

DOJ believes they're above the law and all the courts the cases seem to go to agree with DOJ. It's fucked up, very illegal, and seemingly unwinnable.

Maybe Trump will make a difference. I hope so.

>>32490519
I used to own that BB gun... It sucks, you can't do a mass shooting with that. Its one shot then you need to pump it up several times by racking that hard to pull slide.

>>32498351
I remember a lot of guns getting seized and shredded during the course of the investigation, and the CADOJ claiming due process meant they didn't have to provide compensation. Then I remember the CADOJ getting a paddling for it. What I don't remember is anyone actually getting convicted.

>>32498383

I think there were a few convictions, but most got overturned on appeal. What's clear is that CA DOJ sure did ruin a lot of people's lives in the process (shredded guns, lost jobs, drained finances for lawyers, etc), convictions or not. And they got a slap on the wrist, plus a wink and a nod to keep doing it on the sly. They do it every time the idiots pass new legislation, and the DOJ wrists get red from slaps but nothing happens otherwise.

These new laws are gonna usher in a whole new era of Iggymania.

>>32498375
I own a Marksman Repeater ("Made in Los Angeles 25, Calif. USA"), and they're spring guns. A flick of the thumb, one pull, and one push. No pumping involved.

>>32498091
I don't think you understand how the JEWdicial system works.

Anything (((they))) say is by definition the law. Anything you do is subject to it.

Ipso facto, you are a subject.

>>32490252
It's really easy to see the posters that are too young to remember when the AWB was a nationwide law, passed by a bunch of fucktards from California.

>>32498649

This. If it passes and stands here, they're gonna push hard for another national ban and it's gonna be a shitshow (SANDEEE HUUUK prices times ten, .22 becoming extinct, etc) even if Teflon Don and the Deplorables beat it back.

Teflon Don and the Deplorables. That should be a band.

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>>32498075
>lumping hipsters and socialists of the west coast in with anarchists

Sounds like a violation of the nap to me

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>>32498668
Finally someone who remembers how close we are to teeter-tottering over the edge after any given mass shooting/crime wave/terrorism/ ect....

You guys in perminant red states may laugh and think your safe, but we are all gonna get fucked again if we seperate and let our guards down. When one state passes a shitty law we ALL lose a little. The balance begins to sway as people start to believe the "common sense" gun legislation nonsense.

>>32495690
Fair enough. But don't ever act like pro-gun Californians don't do their part.

>>32490252
That analogy is actually 100% symbolic now that you've proven how close minded you are.

>I'm not even from cali

>>32489101
ARAKI SENSEI!!!!!

>>32498668
>>32498788
No but seriously that's a great band name. Just make >=1 Pro-2A songs and I'm sold.

>>32498668
> If it passes and stands here, they're gonna push hard for another national ban and it's gonna be a shitshow
I chorted, California always pretends to be the canary in the coalmine claiming "Its coming for you next! if they pass it here it will go nationwide!". I've heard this since the hicap bans and I get a chuckle every time.

>muh remember the AWB
Except for the fact that the AWB didnt start with california.

>>32497500
Your smarter just going featureless.

>>32495915
Get a fixed stock kydex wrap and a muzzle break...

>>32501161
>1989 california assault weapons ban
>not identical to the 1994 national one

People are going to follow this bullshit law? Why in god's name would I register my shit?

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>>32488853
>The release mechanism for an ammunition feeding device on an assault weapon registered pursuant to Penal Code section 30900, subdivision (b)(1) shall not be changed after the assault weapon is registered.

So I'll just take it off before the registration?

>>32501250
Better yet, just ignore it. Go out shooting in BLM. The most interaction you'll get with the authorities are border patrol agents looking for beaners.

>>32501254
That's a great idea in theory, but I didn't spent a thousand bucks on an AR to shoot it twice a year. I would like to take it to a range without having to worry about the CDOJ doing checks at the rangehouse.

>>32501260
>Twice a year
How fucking far do you live from BLM?

If you're in SoCal you're likely no more than about 20 to 30 miles from BLM.. given you're not trying to get there in a Prius.

>>32501264
It's a matter of laziness, I admit. That and I've never shot on anything that isn't private property or a range. I live in the central valley and everything around here seems like its private property anyway.

>>32501273
East side, west side or smack dab in the middle off near huron or some other little shithole?

>>32501281
Fresno, so about smack in the middle of this communist hellhole of a state.

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>>32501273
You need to hit up BLM.

There's nothing more peaceful than going out with a friend or two to a private spot to shoot. Then on the drive back you grab some beers and have some grub.

You'll hate indoor ranges & gun clubs afterwards. You just can't beat being alone with your rifle.
>pic related

>>32501284
You're 40 minutes from National Forest land. You have no excuse.

an hour is the mckinley curve's being problematic.

41 to friant, friant to copper river road, past the rasin packing house, turn left at the fruit stand and through the area where the nudist colony was till you hit prather than it's like 5 minutes to the Sierra National Forest.

>>32501303
Fuck I cannot type for shit tonight.

*if the McKinley curve is being a piece of shit

>>32501303
We got a fire restriction down in here in SoCal...

Fuck you guys ;\

>>32501313
That's what you get for not thinning your forests.

...though to be fair it's not much better in the central sierra either..

Wait you mean still? Thought fire season was over....

>>32501303
The sad thing is that I know exactly where all that shit is. Except the nudist colony. I had no idea there was anything like that around here.

>>32501294
So its that easy huh? Go up there, find a nice empty spot and have at it?

I'll be honest. Every time I've shot on my land, the cops came. Its legal for me to do it, but it gives me a bad feeling. If I'm out there playing with toys I'm not supposed to have and they show up, my guns might get confiscated at best and I go to the slammer at worst.

>>32501318
Nah. Fucking drought fucked us good. We just got a shit ton of rain though, hopefully they lift the restriction.

We have issues with tweakers and beaners going out into BLM and setting fire to shit.

>>32501330
>So its that easy huh? Go up there, find a nice empty spot and have at it?
The absolute worst we've ever had is riding through border patrol when they're looking for a truck load of beaners with heroin.

Otherwise, nothin. I heard the park ranger came over once and gave my friend a hard time for not picking up his brass...

>>32501353
By absolute worst, you say "yes I'm American" and produce an ID if they ask for it. But that only happens when your buddy drives a 10 year old Chevy Silverado.

>>32501313
>32501313
You can shoot at a lot of places in riverside county iirc.
I usually take the ortega highway to some place off the 15 freeway something something something i'm drunk. I can get you directions if you like.

>>32501330
>Except the nudist colony.

As the story goes, as it was passed down from one of the older staffers at one of the summer camps I worked at when I was a teenager, the conoly was off in that area along auberry road where all the eucalyptus trees are when you get into that curvy section of road, but before you get along the river and well before you get to fresno rifle and pistol club.

>>32501353
Sounds good, let's just hope the hillsides don't wash away. How were the fires in socal this year?

I was out of state for the majority of it so I kinda missed it (was more focused on where I was working not burning down, shit like that.)

>>32501365
The rains were mild. A few heavy ones, but no el nino precursors. The only places that flooded should've known better.

>>32501359
Yeah I was looking at the BLM map for Riverside. I won't lie. I'm mirin' your guys choices. Huge chunks of land.

I'm not driving up there to go shooting, that's far enough that I'd fuck up and get a speeding ticket.

>>32501379
To each their own. It's about 40-50 miles for me. I just go shooting at the range. Would you happen to be in, say, southern orange county?

>>32501398
Way south. Like San Diego south.

>>32501400
Aw shit. If you find tyourself in the Orange County region, check out On Target. All I can say. Good luck, brither, and happy new years.

>>32501407
Likewise, happy new years.

>>32501250
So this never got answered.

Whats stopping someone from removing the bullet button before they register it?

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>>32501488
Nothing really, however if you get stopped with it say coming back from the range, or if an officer is randomly patrolling the ranges post 2018 (You know they'll probably do this for at least the first 6 months) and do a more in depth check of the record of the gun, they can show that the original weapon was sold as a "fixed magazine" rifle. All ARs since the previous assault weapons ban have been registered like this anyway and as of 2014, they were also documented on the dros as well. Essentially if they do even more than a cursory check on the record of your gun you're going to get cornholed as any weapons with "ebil" features post 2017 are going to be assumed newly registered assault weapons.

The safest bet is to convert it to featureless. Once you do that, you can swap in the mag release button with no worries.

>>32501488
it was answered you dumb faggot. the registration is only valid for bullet button containing rifles, the rules specifically say you cant register a non bullet button rifle

>>32490337
Ahahahahhah thank you sir I had a sensible chuckle

>>32490252
top kek, montana is 40% blue, nevada is blue now, if you dont think "sensible" gun laws are coming to a state near you, well it must be nice living in ignorance.

>tfw everyday thousands of border jumping democrat voting illegals are coming in
>no longer just a border state problem, obama shuttles them around usa or they now move inland

no voter ID required in many states, shrinking birth rate of middle and upper class americans, exploding birth rate of brand new immigrants, constant media narrative under progressive control, gun owners painted as 'weird' or 'crazy' in all pop culture tv shows and sitcoms, radical left liberals control all university and college institutions and schools, indoctrinating kids from kindergarten to grad school


yeah, california just beat you to hell but you are coming right behind us

>>32501596
So in other words, my M16A1 clone is fucked.

I swear I'm going to get out of this fucking hellhole if its the last thing I do.

>>32488853
>The release mechanism for an ammunition feeding device on an assault weapon registered pursuant to Penal Code section 30900, subdivision (b)(1) shall not be changed after the assault weapon is registered.

Define "changed."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but by change they must mean "replace", right? So I can't swap a bullet button for a traditional release because that would be changing the magazine release.

What if I simply took a dremel and grinded down the mag release until my finger could actuate it? If we consider "change" to be a synonym for "replace", technically I am still within the law because I haven't replaced the magazine release. I have niether replaced nor installed any new magazine release, I have only modified the existing one.

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I need some cheering up.

They officially won, I regret ever getting into guns. I've spent assloads of money to buy gimped rifles that are practically illegal now, and the only way to get around the new laws (which will eventually be replaced with even harsher ones) is to spend even more money on new shit like retarded grips or the SCR.

Now I have thousands of dollars worth of shit that I can't even be happy with. Why oh why couldn't I have gotten a normal hobby like fishing?

>>32501749
If you were to ground down a bullet button, you would no longer have a fixed magazine requiring a tool to disassemble, thus no more bullet button. And based on the DOJ regulations, you will now be considered to be in possession of an unregistered assault weapon.

>Can only register AW that was legal on December 31, 2016, but is illegal as of January 1, 2017 (bullet button rifle)
>A non-bullet buttoned rifle was not legal on December 31, 2016, therefore cannot be registered
>A registered BB rifle that has a standard mag release installed after registration is no longer in a configuration that was legal in 2016, DOJ now considers it an unregistered AW

>>32503168
I understand that, but that is why I said I would theoretically register it with it's bullet button in standard configuration, and then grind the bullet button AFTER it is registered as an assault weapon.

I've read the entire law and nowhere does it say the bullet button must retain its functionality, only that it "shall not be changed." Which is why the definition of the word "changed" is so critical. Because if it means "to replace with a different device" than I am still within the law, because absolutely no part has been replaced or "changed." I have not removed the bullet button, nor replaced it with anything else. The "magazine release device" that was on my rifle the day I registered it is still installed, but it has been modified.


The law does say one may remove the bullet button, but only for "repairs or replacement with a like-function device" but I don't see anything that compels me in any way to keep the bullet button in good repair.

>>32490279
>FUCKING CALIFORNIANS MOVING TO MY SHITTY FLYOVER STATE AND PASSING UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PUSHING FOR MAG CAPS GET OUT REEEEEEE

Fixed that for you, luckily californians are mentally handicapped and think they can force the feds to fund their shitty state program so they can get around placing fiscal notes on ballot measures.

>>32503924
Because it's not the bullet button itself, but what it does, that's the issue. In good condition, it prevents you from changing a magazine without the use of a tool, hence you don't have a detachable magazine.

By grinding it down, or letting it fall into disrepair that it can work as a regular magazine release, you can now detach your magazine without the use of a tool, and are now in possession of an illegal assault weapon.

By modifying the bullet button, or letting it fall into a state so that you can depress it with your finger to change the magazine, you now have a rifle that was illegal prior to 1/1/2017.

Even before this law passed, if you had a bullet button and let it fall into a condition where you could just press it to change the magazine, you would have had an illegal assault weapon, as it is the function, not simply the installation, of the bullet button that made a weapon compliant with the law.

What would it take for the fed to mandate a bottom line 2a protection clause to be applied by will to all states, with the only reprocussion for non-compliance being a financial penalization? Sort of like the drinking age/highway money situation is set up?

>Oh, sure cali, no problem. You can keep whatever laws on the books you want!
>Just don't expect us to pay for your roads ;^)

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>>32490552
It's pretty easy to recognize the purpose of registration when you realize the fact that they charge like $30 or whatever per firearm to register. This fucking trash blue state is as bankrupt as it is corrupt.

>>32488853
who even votes for Commifornia politicians?

Mexicans and dead people?

>>32504659
Mainly older people who vote democrat automatically no matter what. In Cali's last mid-term general we had less than 28% voter turnout, and that's a percentage of registered voters.

Also while no one will admit it the Cali dems pushed through laws and rules changes that basically lets illegals vote illegally while the state turns a blind eye so the dems can pad their numbers. This is like if Canada imported thousands of evangelical Christians and let them vote.

Hell you want an example of just how low-info and mindless most Cali voters are? Leland Yee still got 300,000 votes after he was forced to drop out after being arrested for literal treason and trafficking arms (including Javelins and Full Auto Tavors) to muslim extremists.

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-pol-leland-yee-vote-20140607-story.html

This is what happens when the majority of the voting population votes for anyone or anything sponsored by someone with a (d) next to their name, and in most places in Cali there wasn't even a choice. Our senate race consisted of 2 anti-gun dems running on pretty much identical platforms of being elitist authoritarian assholes.

>>32504240
>By modifying the bullet button, or letting it fall into a state so that you can depress it with your finger to change the magazine, you now have a rifle that was illegal prior to 1/1/2017.

I understand that. If it was illegal in 2016, you cannot register it in 2017. So register it, THEN modify it after it is registered.

Bullet buttons are now detachable magazines, ergo it is legal to have registered assault weapons with detachable magazines. The only limitation on a registered assault weapon is that you cannot "change" the magazine release device on a registered assault weapon, so if you have a bullet button installed, you cannot swap it out with a traditional magazine release. However, my idea does not involve switching out or installing any part. It only modifies the existing magazine release installed on the rifle at the time it was registered.

Again, the law only states that you cannot register a weapon that violated 2016 law. So register it in a compliant condition, then modify the bullet button. At that point, they can't punish you because it is a registered assault weapon with a detachable magazine, and you haven't "changed" out the magazine release.

>>32505075
>So register it in a compliant condition, then modify the bullet button.

Modifying is the same as changing or manufacturing. Legally it's no different then swapping the release entirely.

>>32505075
You're wasting your time trying to figure a way around the regulation. The regulation itself is illegal. That's the only argument you need concern yourself with.

>>32504396
Easy

Trump says he will do that with sanctuary cities

>>32488853
So this meas that if you convert your rifle to featureless then you don't have to register and can still take off the bullet button?

>>32505880
Correct, that hasn't changed for now.

>>32501294
>>32501273
>>32501264
I'm from the east coast and I seriously thought for like the last 40 minutes you were talking about shooting at Black Lives Matter protesters.

>>32505918
ok good
OP scared the shit out of me

>>32505947
I am OP just FYI.

But keep tabs on the laws, I bet once Trump takes office the Dems will try and push a total semi-auto ban.

>>32505150
>Modifying is the same as changing or manufacturing.

Gonna need to cite some sources on that. The glossary doesn't define "modify" or "change" or "manufacturing" so those terms are up for interpretation in the court of law.

In the meantime, my interpretation is that "change" means "to replace," not to modify. If it did mean to modify, even scratching the bullet button would be "changing" it and you would be a felon.

>>32505988
>Dems will try and push a total semi-auto ban
PLEASE TRUMP SAVE CALIFORNIA

>>32506016
DOJ literally makes up shit as they go along, so if you take a newly registered bullet button salt gun and intentionally modify the mag release to operate in a way other than intended you better have a really good fucking lawyer.

>>32497663
This. Everyone says "I don't wanna leave here though!" but it will only get worse. Commiefornia will only ever get worse and worse until they ban guns so hard you can only own pellet rifles with a 3 pellet max magazine.

>>32506134
>tfw you have a high-capacity pellet gun

>>32505075
You keep assuming changes to the bullet button are the same as changes to the function of the bullet button. The law refers to needing a tool to remove the magazine, it doesn't refer to installing a bullet button.


>Register your BB rifle
>"Modify" it so that now you can press it without a tool to detach your magazine
>Bullet button is no longer functioning as a "bullet button," you now have a rifle where you can remove the magazine without a tool, is in configuration that was not legal

vs
>Register BB rifle
>paint bullet button lime green
>Still legal, still need tool to remove magazine, still in configuration that was legal in 2016.

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>>32506301
Better start a campaign to daisy to bring back the model 21.

>>32490083

Sheeit, nigga. I'm in Texas. I'm standing on the shore laughing at these dumbasses.

>>32505934

why not?

as an out-of-state Californian because of the military, can i still register ARs or do they need to be featureless when i go back in-state?

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>>32504996
absolutely disgusting

>>32506468
how long are you here? because there is a year before the registration deadline.

>>32504996
>tfw california has enough gun owners to overturn these dumb laws but they don't vote
WAKE UP CALI GUN OWNERS
START VOTING YOU KEKS

>>32506336
just dont post this shit on mainstream sites like calguns or DOJ will read and then amend their rules. they can still change their rules, they havent officially released them yet or posted to their site

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>>32506468
did you buy them before 2014?
if so then just
>These aren't the ARs you're looking for

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>>32506670
>I support gun ownership, as long as it's as cucked as possible

>>32506733
Too late. Fags on Calguns are debating every letter of the new regs to make people keep their BB on. DOJ doesn't even need lawyers; Calguns posters will figure out every argument for them.

>>32490252
That's what Nevada, Oregon, and Washington all said.

>>32506745

bought one out-of-state, bought one when Heller went down.

>>32506706

still stationed out-of-state, but i'd like the flexibility if i ever return since my GF (probably fiancee/wife sooner or later) and i are only children and all our family is on the west coast.

>>32506792
>Nevada
Because our laws cuck antigunners

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>>32505649
Sanctuary cities...?

What's that?

>>32507038
You dont even want to fucking know man.

>>32507038
Cities that shelter illegal immigrants

>>32506709
A lot of them either agree with it or just don't care.

There was a poll of the ammo background check law where they asked California gun owners if they supported it.

About 42% of gun owning Californians supported it. Fourty fucking two percent.

It's almost hopeless.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_63,_Background_Checks_for_Ammunition_Purchases_and_Large-Capacity_Ammunition_Magazine_Ban_(2016)

>>32498455
I wonder if Trump's DOJ can go after CA for unconstitutional laws/enforcement?

>>32506670

I can't believe this Bullshit. Literally appeals to emotion in both cases.

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>>32507230
Literally both dems. Just like my choice of house votes

>>32507315
City? HB here

>>32507180
Nah, he'll have other shit to work about. The only way to actually stop it would be to arrest and charge the traitors, something he knows is a stupid precedent.

This place is a goner, don't weep for us, we are already dead

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>>32488853
>reading more about this new bullshit on my cucked states laws
>cements the idea that i'm not going to register shit
>read about how you have to take multiple pictures of your gun in order to register it
>idea
>take pictures of a black spray painted nerf gun on a Polaroid camera then scan said pictures
>be sure to include your ball sack and dragon dildos in the background in said pictures
>anti-gun faggots register your toy as an assault weapon
>months pass and new legislation says its confiscation time
>swat raids you
>let out your war cry: " ITS NERF OR NOTHIN!!!"
>die a 2nd amendment martyr and de cuck californias gun laws through the god emperors will
>pic kinda related?

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>>32507401

>>32507651
the $20 fee though...
Not worth giving my money to the DPRK

>>32491979
Fucking over kids forced into prostitution. You sure got the moral high ground there buddy.

>>32506020
Save yourselves and stop asking to suck the cock of a higher power. If you Californians are right about your "muh we have more gun owners than anyone else" meme then do something with it, either by democracy or blood and fire. Nothing is easy in life and the desire for life to be easy gives way to Orwellian nations like britbongistan.
Tl:dr rally the gun owners to vote or lynch some fucks

>>32509765
We do not have the luxury of initiative, our best hope is to wait for the ammo restrictions to effect the fuddly masses, then we can rally.

This is your daily reminder to

DO
NOT
COMPLY

>>32510535
Sorry man I don't wanna go to jail for a pistol grip. Stupid fudds and commies ruines this state.

>>32510677
Go featureless

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>>32489101
Stand Name: Californication
Ability: Can turn any fully functioning firearm into a saltgun (without CO2 loaded into it) by punching it.

Californication has no weaknesses.

>>32510677
Anyone who tries to arrest you for that horse shit is a traitor and should be shot.

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>>32507755
We need to do an OC meet up. Problem is, we would have to go out to Barstow or Riverside to shoot. There is always FT3 in Stanton, but its only 25 yards,

>>32511683
This.
I was even thinking of stripping down the rifles I dont use. I can slap them together in 5 min if Rahowa happens.

>>32510677
Your shit state has always sucked assholes
>Muh weather
>Muh beach
Worthless

>>32491651
Guess what you stupid fucking calicuck nigger. We can't vote in your elections so you should just hang your self

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>>32488853
I know I'm late to the party here, but were any people actually dumb enough to register their ARs?

Literally every single piece of gun related media I listen to/watch was pleading with people not to do it for all the obvious reasons. People weren't really naive enough to think registration wouldn't lead to something like this, were they?

I mean I can kinda see registering one lower if you have a bunch but even then I probably wouldn't since if you tell them you have one lower, they're going to assume you have more whenever they eventually come for the guns.

>>32490217
>the state still hasnt realized that the people who will commit crimes with guns, wont register their shit any way.

Come the fuck on, anon, really? They know what they're doing isn't going to stop crime. It's about control over the population.

>>32490279
>everywhere thats not cali, or the northeast, or florida is a "flyover" state
This is exactly why California is fucked- you think you are superior to the rest of the country.

>>32491651
>Even if everyone out of the cities voted progun, we'd lose 51/49, it's how it "works" here.
>consistent actions by progun CA folk to fight these laws, and it only slows them down at best
Glad to see you confirming that nothing can be done to stop you guys from royally cucking yourselves.
What do you want us to do exactly? We cant vote in Cali elections, and we certainly can't change the liberal minds of Cali's city populations.
Going with your reference,
>First they came for the Socialists, and I spoke out— And so they took me as well.
>The End.
Is that what you are trying to say?

>>32509068
>allowing their pimps and Johns to go free
Let me guess, you're a virtuous pedophile.

>>32488853
>I just want to let you know I fucking called it

You're not special dipshit, everyone knew already. This is not new info.

>>32511906
This

Why should we help califags when they put us down at every opportunity?

Their smugness is their downfall.

>>32511880
You forget how fucking stupid the average Californian is.

>>32510677
This is why your state fails. When the magazine ban came into effect here in CO, we all just bought 30 rnd mags from wyoming and nebraska and 'smuggled' them in. We don't comply with that shit, and neither should you.

>>32490083
>the US is a single boat
>it isn't a flotilla
you're in for a rude awakening. or maybe your grandchildren, i'm not good at


timing

>>32510677
If anyone asks you if it's registered, you answer "yes, it is!"

>>32497979
just erase one white star in the corner and it's flawless.

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>>32513655
On the scale of 1-10 where would a cuckifornian be? 10 being a genius ,7 being above average to competent, 5 being the "average" american. 0 being a crippled helmet wearing hunchback with down syndrome.

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DAILY FUCKING REMINDER THAT CONNECTICUT IS 10 TIMES MORE KEKED THAN CALIFORNIA

AR15'S ARE BANNED
FLASH HIDERS ARE AN ASSAULT FEATURE
IRON SIGHTS ARE AN ASSAULT FEATURE
ADJUSTABLE STOCKS ARE AN ASSAULT FEATURE
FOREGRIPS ARE AN ASSAULT FEATURE

>>32513729
until you fgts get rid of the law they won desu

>>32511880
but they are already registered after 2014 dumbass :^)

>>32490585
And its dumb fucks like you that think california passes laws like your state.

>oh a new antigun bill on my governors desk
>i dont want the anti gun ppl to hate me so im not gonna sign it or veto it
>anti gun bill passes due to governor not vetoing it
>it wasnt my fault guys its legislatives fault, it wasnt me who signed it into law

This fucking state has it where if the governor doesnt actually veto a bill, it comes into law

>>32514438
>IRON SIGHTS ARE AN ASSAULT FEATURE


Wait... you mean I can't have iron sights on my deer rifle in Connecticut?

>>32513754
You need to carry the paperwork around with the gun, so just saying yes isn't enough.

>>32514187
Better than a fucking hawaiian thats for sure or even a new yorker.

In hawaii its almost impossible to own guns without being a cops friend. At least in CA everyone can get a gun, just have to deal with only being able to own glocks, cz75, 1911, m&p, and xd's for handguns, and every bolt rifle, shotgun, and whatever semi auto rifles other states are willing to ship over with a different mag release.

Also at least its not like new york where you cant even own a gun without a new york permit. If an out of towner even stops in the state with a gun, even if the stop is only to sleep and keep driving, thats a crime. Even california lets you travel with guns. You can have your rifle in the front seat and thats legal. Only thing is with handguns, which is to keep them in a locked container seperate from ammo. And that can be anything from your car trunk to a dora the explorer backpack with a dollar store combo lock.

Up until this fuckery california wasnt even in the top 5 of worst gun states.

>>32515080
california was a red state before reagan fucked us over with open border illegals

>>32497974
lol nevada is fucked son, its california 2.0 right now

>>32515080
Cont

I live in VA now, and yes, its awesome i can get whatever gun, but holy shit is it annoying to be forced to shoot on a range. I mean jesus, where is the public land and forests i can shoot in? Closest thing ive found is 5 hours away from any civilization and even that shit is restrictive. I miss the vasts amount of public land you could shoot on in CA. I havnt shot a rifle while standing in over a year. I miss being able to shoot more than 300yds, and being able to move and shoot in different positions.

>>32515115
I feel thats the only way for CA to become a red state again, is to have a rich republican run for governor. Reagan for all his faults was still better than anyone that followed.

Bleeding California.
>California votes to ban guns.
>50,000 out of state gun owners move in.
>Take over polling places.
>BTFO Democrats.
>Dumb ass California police try to stop us.
>Start killing cops in masse.
>Set traps, gun them down.
>have gas can on stand by.
>pour gas on pig.
>BBQ.
>Police try to stop us.
>Track them down, kill their families.
>police back down.
This is how we win.

>>32490083
what can you even own in cali at this point?

>>32515895
A large pink vibrating horse cock

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>>32515895
space guns don't even need a bullet button

>>32512445
That was directed towards Calguns posters that didn't understand CADOJ can just make shit up.

I'm not going to comply. Let them send their thugs or pass their edicts. We've got guns for a reason, and all they're doing is giving us a really good reason to use them. Fuck them all.

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>>32488853
>TFW you left commiefornia for good

>>32506670
This is what happens when you elect minorities who are democrat
>all minorities arent democrat

>>32515174
>Amnesty
>Banning FAs
>AIDS
>Crack
>Ratcheting up the drug war while importing more drugs
Yeah no.
Regan was the beginning of the NWO
Were just lucky the the soviet union collapsed or we probably would have had WW3 in the 90s

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>>32488853

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1286360

Look at this nonsense. Gun owners pretending to be lawyers and half them arguing FOR the state and why the regulations are legal. With subjects like these, CA government doesn't even need legislators or prosecutors.

>>32515895
Glocks, CZs, M&Ps, XDs, 1911s....every bolt rifle, every shotgun......m1a's, mini 14s, and a bunch of other random crap.

So pretty much common shit.

>>32518513
Oh, then wtf is everyone complaining about?

Im in fucking hawaii and cant get shit. We're Australian tier here.

>>32490585
This basketball star just doesn't get it. Keep telling yourself Hitler will stop at your boarder, that once Allepo falls the rest of Syria will be Ok. We "cucks" are the front line.

You're fuckin' welcome.

>>32512442
nothing changed for them. Hang em

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>>32518513
The only M&P we get is the shield.

and we can have ARs just fine

>>32518598
It's still significantly worse than the rest of the Union

>>32515219
Not sure if bad troll or just stupid but most LEO's that I know off up and down CA are on our side. Just because there is always a few bad apples doesn't always mean we all are. Which is why I left LEO and went PI

>>32490230
>implying limp wristed liberals would fight

>>32490217
It is damn near impossible to legally own a handgun in Australia.

Somebody explain a bullet button to me. I looked it up and it seems like a good thing to have to reload magazines easier without a tool. California banned it (which makes sense because reloading is scary) because of the attack where it was illegally removed???

If it makes it easier to unload with it, why would you remove it? If it makes it harder to unload, why would California make it illegal?

Why is it illegal to have a gun with a bullet button and also illegal to remove it?

I live in noguns land and know shit all about guns, what the fuck is going on here?

cali fags BTFO

>>32522096
Thats simply untrue.

>>32522130
>Somebody explain a bullet button to me. I looked it up and it seems like a good thing to have to reload magazines easier without a tool. California banned it (which makes sense because reloading is scary) because of the attack where it was illegally removed???

It's a magazine lock that is poorly named to allow the media to scare zero info voters into thinking it's somehow more dangerous. It REQUIRES a tool to release the magazine, making it clumsier and slower to reload. It got "banned" because the legislature sees it as a loophole and they changed the law to make reloading even slower by requiring you to open the action to reload.

>If it makes it easier to unload with it, why would you remove it? If it makes it harder to unload, why would California make it illegal?

See above.

>Why is it illegal to have a gun with a bullet button and also illegal to remove it?

Illegal if you have a semi auto centerfire rifle with "assault" features and a bullet button after 2017. Illegal to remove the bullet button because DOJ wanted to piss on gun owners even harder even if it means overstepping their authority under the enabling legislation.

>I live in noguns land and know shit all about guns, what the fuck is going on here?

CA legislature trying to make us more like you.

>>32522239
>Illegal if you have a semi auto centerfire rifle with "assault" features and a bullet button after 2017.

I meant to say UNREGISTERED semi auto centerfire rifle.

>>32522239
So basically saying anything that qualifies as an assault weapon that doesn't have the button is banned, then ban those that do have it. All they need to do now is expand the definition of assault weapon and they've broken the second amendment without technically breaking it.

In Australia, we didn't really have much of a choice. We had a massacre where two semi automatic rifles were used. 12 days later, guns were effectively banned.

You can get firearm permits, but they have requirements like being consistently active in a club (revoked if you're not and confiscation of your weapons), rifles only. Handguns are pretty much exclusively for law enforcement or security.

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DO NOT COMPLY

>>32507038
It's a city not complying with federal law to deport illegal aliens

>>32516275
>tfw getting one of those stocks in a non-cucked state just because I like how it looks

>>32526324
It looks like a bullpup but with none of the advantages that makes bullpup endearing.

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>>32526650
If I'm going to get a bullpup I'm getting a plasma rifle in the 40w range

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>>32526324
>>32526650
Un-cucked version here. I'm pretty sure the Cali version lets you remove the thumbhole cover with tools.

>>32527170
Uncucked version looks worse.