You are contacted by James Mattis sometime during Trump's

HCAR

Modernized FAL in .260 like the brits wanted pre NATO standardization

>>32487049
I think figuring out a way to weaponize your autism would be the best choice.

INSAS

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>>32487084
>lmao

>>32487049
Ruger 10/22

FALs and short shorts for everybody

>>32487049
>during Trump's term
an AK made in a government funded sweatshop in texas

dual wielding Obrez Mosins

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Armalite AR-10.

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well this would be the new sidearm for all military services

>>32487049
Any existing rifle is too small of a benefit. We'd want to go full caseless.

>>32487049
I take the M16A4, and I:
>replace fixed stock with M4 collapsible stock
>replace full length quad rail with MLOK fore end
>replace front sight with one that can flip down (still with a bayonet lug)
>remove burst cam from FCG
>make fire selector ambi
>maybe or maybe not replace BCG with nickel boron ones, depends on cost
>have M855 taken out of general use for infantry rifles, and have a better load developed
>take every single old worn out aluminum mag in US inventory and sell it off as dirt cheap surplus to whichever civilian market is buying
>then buy brand new aluminum mags with MagPul followers

>>32487075
The FAL is kind of shit by modern standards though.

>>32487056
Ohio Ordnance Works can fuck right off with their monstrosity.

>>32487162
Caseless has that little problem with sucking.

>>32487171
So does your sister but I love her anyways.

Anyone who does not say HK416 is a fucking moron.

>>32487049
Bring the Garand back.

>>32487183
Yeah, my "sister" gets awfully eager after "her" hormone treatment.

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>>32487190

>>32487190
There isn't anything it does better than any regular milspec AR.

I'm sorry you fell for H&K marketing.

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An XM8 not made out of combat tupperware.
The things did better than any other rifle in the dust testing and it's modular construction would make gearing up a breeze.

>>32487171
We can make caseless great again. It's gonna be huge.

>>32487210
It can be used as SAW unlike mil spec AR.

>>32487171
They can keep perfecting it to make it suck less.
the reduction on both size and weight of caseless ammunition would bring a yuge battlefield advantage in fighting power.

KelTec RDB

>>32487167
>replace everything on the m16 with memes
fuck off

>>32487049
Suggest they go back to the M16/M16A1, and focus on marksmanship training/fire discipline.

>>32487272
Stop.

>>32487239
Get raped, burst fire, quad-rails and fixed stocks are retarded in this day and age.

>>32487272
I would suggest redoing the A1 in a modern way rather than outright going back to it.

A2 sights or a flat-top upper is a start.

>>32487215

man the xm8 compact is so good looking

>>32487219
>hurr durr this infantry rifle can fail slightly less at doing SAW duty than this other one, that means it's better
Using an infantry rifle as a SAW is fundamentally fucking retarded and I hope you die for even suggesting it.

>>32487304
But why?

20" barrel fixed stock is literally too long nowadays.

Iron sights only

>>32487318
That's some butthurtness bro.

If this rifle can be used as both an infantry rifle and a SAW, and the other rifle cannot, there's no point in looking at the latter.

>>32487049
rdb

>>32487319
Replace stock with an M4 adjustable stock, you're done.

Also the M16A4 (and M16A2) are still in use, in case you haven't noticed.

>>32487329
The HK416 can not pull SAW duty because it can handle heat for slightly longer than an average AR.

How about instead of jerking off about which gun to use just set a new set of parameters and see which company produces the most [spoiler]cost[/spoiler] effective result that qualifies? So what qualities should the new service rifle meet, /k/?

>>32487348
>Also the M16A4 (and M16A2) are still in use, in case you haven't noticed.
Only by reverse forces and NG, even marines switch to M4 this year.
>The HK416 can not pull SAW duty because it can handle heat for slightly longer than an average AR.
It's already used for SAW duty, most users carry 21 fucking mags to use with it.

>>32487349
Most cost effective would probably be Palmetto State Armory.
>So what qualities should the new service rifle meet, /k/?
Modular
Reliable
Accurate
Reasonably light-weight.

>>32487367
>It's already used for SAW duty, most users carry 21 fucking mags to use with it.
Amount of ammunition carried does not mean it's being used for SAW duty.
It just means he has more ammo to fight longer, he's not laying on the trigger and suppressing the enemy.

>>32487323

if irons were better than optics then why does every soldier use optics?

>>32487384
By doctrine, it's used in SAW duty.

The amount of ammo he carries is for suppressing the enemy, since no line infantry/rifleman carries 21 mags.

>>32487394
If he's using 30-round mags, he's only carrying 630-something rounds of ammo. Real SAWs carry up to 1000 rounds.
That thing has to be a pretty shitty SAW and used for short engagements.

>>32487410
Proof to back that shit up?

1000 rounds is a lot of weight, especially if it comes in bags.

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>>32487049
Steyr AUG
Easy to take apart and clean, very accurate, nearly indestructible, so ergonomic you can fire two of them at once, 42 rnd mag
Austria and Australia use them, we could at least give them to our special forces

>>32487419

i thought everyone in the squad divvied up the gunner's ammo

>>32487419
I don't have any hard proof other than shit post on wannabe military forums, but the SAW doesn't carry the entire weight of all the ammo.
He carries around 2-3 mags of 200-round belts, including the one already loaded onto the rifle, and a squad-mate or ammo-bitch carries the rest.
Basic logic man, if your SAW gunner can't suppress enemies, you aren't going to be able to flank them.
As to why a SAW needs to be belt-fed or to have a large ammo capacity to decrease amount of times needed to reload.

>>32487455
If so, the same thing would happen to the HK416 user, and it's even easier because they all carry mags.

>>32487467
Except the HK416 already can do that, suppressing can be achieved by a BAR with a 20-rounder, you bet your ass it can be achieved with a 30 rounder.

>>32487410
1,000 if you have a short movement to a defensive position maybe.

>>32487215

I love how this was the early 00's idea of "modular"

>>32487162
This.

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>>32487105
This guy gets it

>>32487484
>suppressing can be achieved by a BAR with a 20-rounder
The M1918A2 BAR was hilariously ill suited for it's role by the start of WW2, I don't think anyone should cite it as a good example of any kind of squad automatic weapon, it was just BARELY getting by on that role, and it was going to be replaced if the war hadn't abruptly ended.

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>>32487049

Colt MRR in the new 6.5mm polymer-cased cartridge from the LSAT program.

>>32487349
M8, there are people who are paid by the US military to do that kind of boring shit.

/k/ jerks off to guns for free.

>>32487506
It wasn't such a bad idea, the problem its its weight.

The ruskies did copy its idea when they make the RPK.

>>32487049
steyr stm 556

>>32487484
I bet you have an HK bolt shoved up your ass from shilling so hard.
It doesn't matter if the single guy can carry all the ammo, it's amount how long you can keep the enemy suppressed, and constantly dropping 30-round mags to reload puts your squad at risk of getting outmaneuvered.
And also, a BAR was used back when semi-auto rifles were becoming the norm, so it was more when enough for the time period

>>32487468
read >>32487467

>>32487489
>>32487467

The M4A1 is fine, at the very best it could use that magical internal coating which forgoes the need of lubrication. Also better magazines would probably solve 90% malfunctions experienced in the field

>>32487125
Fuck that dpms pattern AR10

>>32487531
There's no such risk especially if they fire slowly.

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>>32487215
I'd consider the bottom one

>>32487517
The thing is that the RPK is just an AK with a heavier trunnion, heavier receiver, and longer, heavier barrel.
The M1918A2 is a quirky and obsolete WW1 weapon pressed into WW2 service and given a number of """upgrades""" and it really shows.

The RPK has some practicality, but really a belt feed is way better.

>>32487604
You could at least shill for the IAR which at the least has a quick-change barrel.

But really an ideal SAW should also have a belt-feed and fire from an open bolt.

>>32487604
read >>32487633
A closed bolt system for a SAW would generate too much heat for one, and no SAW should "fire slowly", gives the enemy too much time to pop the SAW and then you don't have someone keeping their heads down.
There's a reason a SAW is often a belt-fed automatic monster.

>>32487167
>m16a4
Because 6" really makes a difference?

>flip front sights while keeping the bayonet lug
You're replacing an important bit with a weker replacement for no reason but keeping an outdated knife holder.

>maybe or maybe not replace BCG with nickel boron ones, depends on cost
Why? you see any other infantry rifles with that shit? Self lube is a meme and the only places you need coated are the insides of the gas key and carrier.

>have M855 taken out of general use for infantry rifles, and have a better load developed
>then buy brand new aluminum mags with MagPul followers
What is m855a1? What are tan follwers? What are milper directives mandating phasing out of green followers and feed lip checks.

3/10 kys

>>32487633
The marines corp think differently.
>>32487611
When you use belt feed, it's better for GPMG, if it's 5.56, a lightweight mag-fed SAW is better and less of a target.

>>32487661
Read >>32487604
The original SAW was the BAR, and later the RPK.

SAW does not mean belt-fed automatic monster.

>>32487688
Squad AUTOMATIC Weapon.
And re-read >>32487661
>no SAW should "fire slowly", gives the enemy too much time to pop the SAW and then you don't have someone keeping their heads down.

>>32487710
The M27 is automatic.

>no SAW should "fire slowly", gives the enemy too much time to pop the SAW and then you don't have someone keeping their heads down.
Can be done by slower, accurate shot, which is more dangerous than blazing 5.56.

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>>32487049
Say no more.
Welcome to the 21st century.

>>32487744
You're missing the premise of a SAW here though.
A SAW gunner is not meant to be precise, but to blaze lead over the head of the enemy.
His job is to suppress the enemy so the riflemen can flank and dispatch them, and if he so happens to get a kill too, bonus points.
Being a slow shot gives the enemy time to think up a way to advance on your position since you're not making them absolutely shit themselves.

>>32487677
>The marines corp think differently.
The Marines are a bunch of fucking mouthbreathers so that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

>>32487766
The point of the SAW is to suppress.

And accurate shot can be as suppressive as hail of shot.

>since you're not making them absolutely shit themselves.
Accurate shot makes them shit themselves more than just loud noise.

>>32487779
The marine corps are actually the most forward pushing group left in the Armed Force, noted their disdain toward female integration, and constantly putting new idea like silenced battalion.

>>32487277
"stop" as in?

>>32487304
Basically, imagine a light, handy full (20") tube with a light rail interface.

You put what the fuck you want on there.

Having it be a full HBAR like what I have for poking wee holes in paper at 1K is silly.

Folks have to hump that shit. Better they carry a good radio and our shitbag gov provide immense CAS.

>>32487810
Stop putting silly outdated shit into service.

>>32487790
>The point of the SAW is to suppress.
By VOLUME

>>32487801
>The marine corps are actually the most forward pushing group left in the Armed Forces
And how fucking sad isn't that? THIS is what we have left, the fucking meatheads who fought near every change in arms since the 1903 Springfield.

>>32487819
>By VOLUME
No, by putting head down, this can be achieved with accurate shot.
>And how fucking sad isn't that? THIS is what we have left, the fucking meatheads who fought near every change in arms since the 1903 Springfield.
It isn't sad, the marines are just trying to keep their legacy instead of cucking themselves to death with diversity packages.

>>32487790
>The point of the SAW is to suppress.
I just fucking told you that, something you've been failing to understand.

>And accurate shot can be as suppressive as hail of shot.
Maybe, but then tell me why SASW gunners often have 1000 rounds of ammo when put out on mission (himself carrying 2+1 magazines, squad mates carrying +1 per member), maybe because automatic fire over their heads fucking works better at keeping them down.
Slow shots is just a retarded, deadly version of whack-a-mole.
The only scenario that will keep the enemy down with slow shots is a Sniper, because those motherfuckers are both hard to find and terrifying.

>>32487839
>Maybe, but then tell me why SASW gunners often have 1000 rounds of ammo when put out on mission
As said it myself, the Marine SAW gunner just carries a M27 with 21 mags.

And know what? Shit fucking works, they love it.

>>32487815
Like what, scummy shitbird politicians who'll let grunts die to further their ambitions?

Cause that is what kills most soldiers.

Sorry. Til someone comes up with some shit like a never miss flechette that completely macerates it's length in flesh, or a gun that manages to produce a total conversion reaction on impact, you'll have to deal with shitweasel politicians.

>>32487837
>It isn't sad
Yes it is, they're fucking glorified infantry that attracts the dumbest fucks you'll ever see in the Armed Forces

>>32487847
Of course they love it, they don't fucking know better.

>>32487837
>this can be achieved with accurate shot
Yeah, if you're a rifleman assisting with suppressing fire, not if you're a saw gunner.

>>32487875
They used the M249 before m8, they drop that shit for the M27 the minutes procurement is completed.

LSATs for everyone.It's fucking 9 pounds. Heavy for a rifle? Yes, but the ammo is 40% lighter, and it uses polymer belts instead of mags, so the weight for the whole system, overall, is actually several pounds lighter.

And an entire fecking squad of SAWs? Imagine the firepower overmatch!

Then add Trijicon CCAS smart scopes for a couple people (the DMR or GPMG equivalents), everyone else can stick with existing optics.

With that much firepower, no need for any weapons squad. Wrap half of them into the line squads, and use the rest for a Switchblade 10C drone team that does the overhead recon and light strike for the platoon.

>>32487887
First of all, they're still using the M249, second, the money spent on that dumb fucking IAR could have been spent on brand new Mk.48s which would kick it's ass every day of the week.

>>32487847
The M249 and M240 both work as well, and they fucking love it too.
The M27 IAR is a wannabe of a SAW that doesn't have even half the capability.

>Marine SAW gunner just carries a M27 with 21 mags.
630 rounds vs. 1000 given the IAR has 30-round mags, you aren't keeping heads down with that cheap stick.

Brother was a SAW gunner for 5 years. People talking about replacing the SAW are retarded. It's a special weapon for a specialized role. A mag fed weapon won't achieve what it needs too.

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Fuck rifles, M1A3 now.

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>>32487900
>beltfeds comparable to magazine fed lmgs
Do people actually think this? Fuck sake.

>not going full slav and issuing both

>>32487049
Gucci AR-15

>>32487219
>sustained fire of 36 rpm vs 100 rpm
Nope.

>>32487779
>>32487677
the m249 is still in service in greater number than the IAR.

the whole IAR thing was probably a sneaky way for the marine to get new rifles design.

>>32487898
1st, they are using more M27 than M249.

2nd, M249 is getting phased out.

Get some news.
>>32487899
Marines don't love the M249, that's why they procure the M27.

>630 rounds vs. 1000 given the IAR has 30-round mags, you aren't keeping heads down with that cheap stick.
You can carry more ammo with the M27 because ammos are shared by the squad's mags.

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>>32487847
>have to stop and reload constantly and can't carry as much ammo, only way to improve loaded capacity is piece of shit Beta Drums or super expensive and heavy Armatac Drums
>no QD barrel and fires from a closed bolt, will heat up way faster
>b-but it's free floated, accuracy bro!

The IAR is a pitiful support weapon by modern standards, pic related will just run circles around this thing all day.

>>32487900
The marines already replace the M249 with the M27.

>>32487955
>1st, they are using more M27 than M249
No shit, because they're using them as rifles, not support weapons.

>M249 is getting phased out.
Would be about time, considering how worn out the inventory is, I'd suggest brand new Mk.46 MOD 0's, lighter and better, same battery of arms.

>>32487957
Which is why more M27 is being used, unlike Mk. 46.

Stick to reality bro.

>>32487103
We don't want to violate the Geneva convention now. It's now very sporting to have bullets that bounce around inside people

>>32487968
>No shit, because they're using them as rifles, not support weapons.
They are using the M27 as SAW specifically, the M249 gunner of yesteryear is using the M27.
>Would be about time, considering how worn out the inventory is, I'd suggest brand new Mk.46 MOD 0's, lighter and better, same battery of arms.
They are getting phased out by M27, get with the times.

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>>32487955
More M249s are in service than the overpriced as hell IAR, what fucking "news" source are you reading?
The M249 won't be gone until another, better (real) SAW can take it's place, and it ain't going to be that pathetic excuse that is the M27 IAR, I can tell you that right now.

>>32487955
>You can carry more ammo with the M27 because ammos are shared by the squad's mags.
The M249 can use standard mags from an M4 if you're too dense to notice.

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>>32487989
>>32487975
>get with the times
>stick to reality
>says a man who advocates for the use of a regular rifle for SAW duty
You sound ESL as fuck by the way.

>>32488006
>More M249s are in service than the overpriced as hell IAR, what fucking "news" source are you reading?
http://www.americanspecialops.com/special-ops-weapons/m27-iar.php
>The M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR) is a 5.56mmx45mm rifle that used by United States Marine Corps (USMC) forces. The M27 will replace many of the M249 SAW belt-fed light machine guns currently employed at the squad level.
>The M249 won't be gone until another, better (real) SAW can take it's place, and it ain't going to be that pathetic excuse that is the M27 IAR, I can tell you that right now.
It's already gone.
>The M249 can use standard mags from an M4 if you're too dense to notice.
Not reliably, which is why it's phased out in the Mk. 46.

>>32487937
This. GPMG's (PKM, M240) definitely have a place, but belt-fed intermediate caliber machine guns (RPD, M249) are kinda pointless. It makes more sense to have your SAW be a variant of the standard issue service rifle for magazine and parts interchangeability. The Russians realized this early on with the RPK.

>>32488014
But the marine corps already do that, my tumblr boy.

>>32487190

HK417.

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>>32487084
India 4 lyfe

>>32488043
>The U.S. Marine Corps is planning to purchase 6,500 M27s to replace a portion of the M249 light machine guns currently employed by automatic riflemen
>replace a portion
>Approximately 8,000–10,000 M249s will remain in service at the company level to be used at the discretion of company commanders.

My source is Wikipedia, which is just as valid a source as yours, AKA not Military-run websites. One is a bastion of free information and one is a SOF-circlejerk.

M41A Pulse Rifle

>>32488074
OK, we will wait dudebro.

Your source is almost 6 year old.

>>32487125
Why aren't those more popular? I'm fucking loving that.

>>32487215
Sexiest gun right here.

Ok I'm a bit uninformed but how is the M27 any different from a 5.56 assault rifle, is the barrel heavier, can you quick swap barrels, etc?

>>32488083
I can say yours is easily as old given the fact there's no publishing date on your linked article bro.
And I feel as soon as the LSAT goes into full service, the USMC will have a 'gibsmedat' moment.

>>32488098
It's a HK416 with a heavier barrier.

>>32487049
M27 IAR, done.

>>32487049
Barret M82

>>32487084

Does it shoot poo?

>>32488121
>remember
>industry jobs

>>32487049
show him some AR-10 options and then beat aroudn teh bush

>>32487918
This. Stop falling for fucking small arms, and focus on 100% mechanization.

>>32487584
>DPMS pattern

"AR-10B"-pattern, honey.

>>32487419
I carried a thousand rounds. Probably less size and weight then 700-800 in magazines.

>>32488047
Also keep in mind the RPD weighs as much as a PKM, both unloaded.
I wouldn't say they're totally useless, gun like the Ultimax have a large capacity and weigh a reasonable ten pounds+quick change barrels. Same as the Shrike etc. Something the RPK lacks.

I think they should be used to supplement full caliber belt feds, simply because one man can carry all the shit required for a intermediate caliber 10 pound lmg, where as the bigger gpmgs require ammo boxes to be doled out to the whole squad. Lighter caliber lmgs also make sense when issued to smaller squads/fireteams imo.

>>32488149

1000 rounds of belted 5.56 weighs slightly (a few ounces) less than 900 rounds of 5.56 in magazines. This is only counting raw ammunition, magazine, and link weight, though; four 200-round SAW pouches probably weigh a bunch less than thirty rifle magazine carriers, and is definitely much less bulky.

>>32488149
how much do 240B gunners carry? (7.62NATO/.308)

Either revise the G41, AR100, or LR300.

>>32487918
Honestly, there's zero reason for any infantry if you could afford to put everyone in a tank.

>make new gun based on the FNC functionally, and the FAL aesthetically in a new proprietary 25 caliber round
>modernize it w/ pic rail on top & lighter-weight materials
>dust cover is now part of the receiver
>make charging handle better

>>32488307
>/command and conquer general/

>>32488263

I'm not him, but depends. SAW gunners are "supposed" to carry 800 rounds, for example, but you see many examples of 1000 round fighting loads in photos, videos, and testimony. I haven't seen many 240 gunners, but they're "supposed" to carry 300 rounds, their assistant gunner 400, and their ammunition bearer 300.

I'd advise asking around, but it's probably safe to revise up a belt each for fighting loads that soldiers actually carried.

>>32488098
It's a 416 with a heavier, free floated barrel.

It does not fire from an open bolt.
It does not have a belt feed.
It does not have quick detachable barrels.
It just slightly handles heat better than a regular infantry rifle.

It can not 'talk' like you can do with a real SAW, or it'll heat up in an instant and start getting cookoffs, because it's literally just a rifle.

>>32488263
Not much, their support gunner carries most. That and the rest of their group if they're going to walk far.

As far as exactly as much, I don't remember.

>>32488307
Bit hard to room-clear, m8.

>>32488281
LR300 is hilariously overrated.

>>32488320
Infantry and played a bit of arma.

Modern tanks and competent crews Manning them make a very scary combination.

>>32488372
Hell of a lot easier to room clear with a tank than infantry... What you're thinking is police operations.

>>32488444
>room clear with a tank
>gunner O-R just right of the second floor window, fire and adjust

>>32487304

Triangular handguards pls

>>32488344
Yet the marines love them anyway, much more than the M249.

It'd be a caseless weapon system that'd go over budget and be rife with scandals but at the end of the day america would be the cutting edge because america.

>>32489371
>Yet the marines love them anyway
The Marines were in love with the M14 which was an objectively fucking inferior combat rifle to the M16, their opinion and preference doesn't really mean shit to me.

>>32487195
Agreed, but rather the improved M1 (aka M14) and in .270 Peterson like originally intended.

>>32489521
.276 Pedersen

>>32489521

.276 Pedersen is ungodly good. The T3E2 should have been the unquestionable winner over the Garand, and a 25-round magazine-fed "M14" might have certainly been something.

Probably still overshadowed by the M16, but still something.

>>32487389
>guys why does that ranger unit have better shit than my finance clerks?
>ill fucking show them who the real heros are
>i want aimpoints on all my rifles
>why should i have to practice basic marksmanship skills when i dont even qual more than once a year?
>lets get this qual over with, i need to get to the division golf tourney, did i hit 40/40? No? Just hand me the target and that pen, 39/40 sounds good, i wanna be humble toward my infantry bretheren when i do their taxes

>>32487210
It shoots better

>you wouldnt know, civilian

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>>32488084
Because SCAR 17 is a thing

>>32488143
It that really what it's called?
When I picked parts for my ar10 build it was always listed as dpms pattern vs Armalite pattern

>>32487438
Noooope

The AUG as it sits need a face lift or small redesign, the aussie one is a step in the right direction.

>>32489680
AR10 is armalite and AR308 is DPMS

>>32487049

>New Service Rifle

I'd tell him that would be a waste of the taxpayer's money and we should just go back to using the M16 length barrel as standard and stop trying to use carbines for everything.

>>32487668
>cause 6 inches makes a difference
Ask your mother m80

6 inches for .556 produces alot more velocity faggot.

>its a knife holder.

Yep

>nickel boron is for lubrication

Its for reducing maintainence time feggit

>>32487075
>Muh .280 British
when will this meme die

>>32489680

I maaay be talking about how that thing takes a nigger-rigged M14 mag like the AR-10B instead of proper AR-10 mags like the AR-10A and not the way the lower and upper are shaped/interface with each other. Regardless, I'm pretty sure that picture is presenting as Armalite pattern, and it's an Armalite AR-10A4 (which is confusingly actually an AR-10B pattern rifle) anyway, so...

>>32489792
I was saying fuck that, and suggesting a dpms pattern ar10.
>>32489712
What the shit is an LR308 then?

>>32489870

Aha, the difference a comma makes. I'm sorry.

>>32489910
Should have been more clear. I'm typically too lazy to use proper punctuation when shit posting.

>>32487049
M1 carbines made with state of the art metallurgy to resist the retardedly hot ammo that will be issued with them

>>32487049
7.62 NATO
For the sole fact that it gives me a boner.

PTRS's cut down to be carbines.

>>32487215
>That MS paint bipod
if we're going for meme rifles at least go for the ACR or Mysada or whatever the fuck that shitpipe Magpul wanked up is actually called.
>>32487668
Your <female relative> thinks six inches make a difference. Zimbabwe.
>>32490047
High Energy

>>32489622
>slightly more recoil
>slightly larger groupings on average compared to similarly priced AR15s
>heats up slightly faster
>very slightly easier to clean
>fair bit heavier

There's literally nothing special about the 416

>>32487668
>Because 6" really makes a difference?
For 5.56mm? A shitload, son, that's a lot of extra reach and power, the 14.5" barrel on the M4A1 makes things pretty lukewarm when it comes to M855

>You're replacing an important bit with a weker replacement for no reason
Because it's flat-top and if you're using optics it'd be nice to be able to keep it lower

>but keeping an outdated knife holder.
If it wasn't needed it would have long since been phased out, turns out it hasn't.

>Why? you see any other infantry rifles with that shit?
>Self lube is a meme and the only places you need coated are the insides of the gas key and carrier.
The insides are coated, but yeah it isn't about lube, it's the fact that it decimates cleaning time and makes the BCG last a whole lot longer.

>What is m855a1?
A thing that rapes feedramps.

>What are tan follwers?
>What are milper directives mandating phasing out of green followers and feed lip checks.
Yet you'll find old shitty disposable mags from the pre-A1 era in military armories still, things which should have been cleared out decades ago.
Tan followers is nice and all, but I'm mainly talking about spring cleaning, getting rid of all the old shit.

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>>32488419
>bit of arma

You haven't played Arma until you've killed a dozen T-72s and T-90s with your TOW humvee

>>32489405
A2 sights a shit. I have no idea why they went away from it, A1 sights are simple, clean and exactly what you would want in a battlefield.

>MUH RIFLEMAN :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>32490389
What's wrong with A2 sights? They seem excellent to me.

I'd just kidnap about a dozen Czech machinists and stick them in a warehouse in Alaska, supplying them with a steady amount of alcohol via drone shipments.

>>32487049
>We goin to a nugget Army now bois

FNAR

.22 caliber munitions are for fire support only.


The AR10 will rise!!!

>>32490480
I thought you wanted something to get done?

>>32490564
Czechs don't really function when sober, like a car on an empty tank of gas. Plus, if you leave them alone long enough then they're bound to 'accidentally' something useful.

>>32490463
There is nothing wrong with them. They're wonderful target sights.

A1 sights however are superior for military use, easier to train on and easier to shoot under stress.


The US army isn't even fully trained on how to utilize A2 sights, they just battle sight zero and leave it. Wasting the entire point of having over complex sights pushed for by the marines.

>>32490652
Czechs are demislavs though

>>32487438
This. I choose AUG. Gonna be expensive, though.

>>32490843
To be precise, they're kind of like a slavic-germanic dumpster baby that is sustained solely by alcohol and photosynthesis.

isn't the hk416 the natural successor? from the outside it is almost exactly the same as an m4.

>>32487084
Only the Marines get them, and they are hand downs.

>>32491191
Except with proprietary parts and a piston system that doesn't give any actual benefits.

>>32490738
At least the Marines used the A2 sights, until they gave everyone optics.

>>32491191
Barely any advantages. The round used and tha barrel length is the most important thing. We need to drop 5.56mm for something more lethal. We need to go bullpup if we want to keep the gun short and still have a nice barrel length.

Kalashnikov

AK74

is this even a question?

scar and pkm in 308

>>32487890
in 6.5mm

>>32488074
My battalion stopped using 249s about 3 years ago. We still have them sitting in the armory but every company uses IARs.

Our 81mm mortar platoon might still use them. Not sure, I don't fuck with mortarmen but I know weapons company dudes here don't use IARs.

We also have one company fully suppressed. We already lost a suppressor for a few hours. It was cool I guess.

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>>32491407
YES!

>>32488334
As an 240 gunner with out an AG I would carry 1000 rounds and know that some of the of the saw gunners carried about 2000 rounds and a spare barrel. This was all in Iraq in 04 doing 8-12 hours a day.

>>32491407
The M16 and M4 is litterally better.

>>32490039
>7.62 NATO
That's a caliber not a rifle

>>32490389
Tow cant penetr8 t90

>>32492554
I carried 1k with my saw and it exceeded what i was supposed to carry by 200.

Carrying five more drums is a lot more fucking ammo and wait, an additional 25ibs. I dont doubt people did it, but with 5 i had no room to put it unless you carried an assault bag.

>>32487606

So a G36c

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Call up FN, and have them modify the SCAR/FNAC & HAMR to my spec.
Call up HK, and have them modify the XM8 & HK416 to my spec.
Call up Colt/Diemaco, and have them modify an AR15 to my spec.
Call up LMT, and have them modify an AR15 to my spec.
Call up ST Kinetics & Jim Sullivan, and have them create a rifle based on the Ultimax to my spec.

Have a parallel development for 6.5/6.8mm munitions to replace 5.56mm.

And then let them all run through a battery of tests to select the best entry.

>>32487215
Poseidon is pleased with the fishgat.

>>32488307
>What are anti tank mines and mine clearing

Infantry is always here too stay.

>>32490269
The 416 has slightly less blowback with traditional baffle suppressors. That's why it was bought.

The OSS systems are probably going to make it redundant.

>>32488307
A basic working knowledge of combined arms should be required before posting itt.

Also, see mechanized infantry. Not every situation calls for a no-bullshit tank. Sometimes a bit of armor and some 25mm will solve your problem.

>>32491561
>at the discretion of company commanders.
How's the terrible suppressive ability working out?
Or are you constantly engaging at 200+ meters?

An AR-pattern rifle chambered in .30-06

>>32487075
.260?
how about 6.5 Swede?

>>32487056
chamber it in 7.62 NATO and I'm in.

>>32487195
they did. it's called the M1A SOCOM.

>>32487196
your sister is Czechbro?

>>32487049

Tell him to put money on something that it is actually needed. Latest versions of M4/M16 is fine - fucking IDF beat kebab armed with AK with many of their units still equipped with 98k.

>>32487049
AK108/GP30 with the light & sight.

>>32492554

I thought that might be the case, but didn't that mean your ammunition weight alone exceeded 65 pounds in rounds and links? Were you motorized?

>>32493647

Aye, refer >>32488334. I've also seen sporadic reports of 2000 round battle loads, but not very commonly at all. My own calculations come up to over 31 pounds for an additional 1000 rounds of linked 5.56.

>>32488078
hey just what you see, pal

>>32487049
I make it cheap and reliable. Everything else is secondary. Although, a good stock and a bayonet mount would be nice.

6.5 Grendel AR variants.
6.5 Grendel LMG.

Done.

I like what I've been reading on the new caseless MG and AR variants. I think that would be the best path I've seen so far. Other than that our rifles generally work. Spend the money on more range time and ammo instead of replacing gear that works.

>>32487049
6.5mm LSAT to replace the M249 and M240. The better BC means 6.5 retains more energy than 7.62 past 700m. Keep the M4 for now, but issue suppressors to everyone.