What's the point of paying $200 for a tax stamp if the silencer

Showing off to your fudd friends at the range

>>32479927
Physics. You want something that silences it to the point of the action being louder than the shot? $2,000 and a fuckhueg can on the end and you might get somewhere.

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>>32479927
It's just $200.
If that and wait is all I need to do to stay out of jail, that seems reasonable enough to me. Gatekeeper to keep the riff raff from owning them.

>>32480001
>buying a tool to silence gunshots and it doesn't even do it

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>>32480037
Oh, I didnt buy a tool to silence gunshots
I bought a muffler for my firearms.

>>32479927
Honestly, I would wait to buy a suppressor now that Trump is about to go into office.

The hearing protection act has the best chance it's had since it was introduced to actually become law. I'd wait so that the base price for the suppressors came down.

>>32480222
If the HPA passes, your going to see demand skyrocket, along with the prices of good stuff.
Cheapshit will be available though

>>32480296
I'd be ok with cheapshit since $20 .22 LR suppressors would be a thing now.

maglights work for me and much cheaper

>>32479927
Being able to shoot without earpro, and also their flash suppression.

In a hunting context they're great because going without earpro means you have better situational awareness before taking a shot, and then you're not deafened after taking one. At night it also means you're not blinded by your own flash. Plus it's just nice on an extended trip to be able to go without the discomfort of wearing earpro all day, but still have your hearing protected from damage.

In a home defense context they're incredibly useful. Firing a gun in a small enclosed environment is like flashbanging yourself, especially if it's a dark house/apartment in the middle of the night. A suppressor lets you maintain your vision and hearing so you can immediately identify whether the threat is taken care of or not.

>>32481493
Most suppressed firearms are not hearing safe and electronic ear protection is a thing.

>>32480001
>Gatekeeper to keep the riff raff from owning them

Fucking die fudd nigger faggot

>>32482641
> silencers aren't protected under 2A

Ammend it then

>>32482630
Even the ones that aren't "hearing safe" are still far better than an unsuppressed firearm. Suppressed is like being at a rock concert or auto race, loud and might cause long-term damage but you can still keep situational awareness and operate properly.

Electronic earpro is great but if you're on a multi-day hunting trip wearing it constantly gets old fast, and you can't count on getting your ears on in an HD situation.

>>32482682
>Implying they aren't
>Implying there aren't loads of unconstitutional and non sensual regulations and restrictions right now

Fuck off fudd back to plebbit nigger

>>32481440
Warning: doing this severely affects flashlight function and invalidates the warranty

>>32482717
but he's right

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>>32479927
>if the silencer doesn't make the "chup-chup"
you need a bigger one then

>>32482769
>Magazines and ammo aren't covered by the second amendment !

Literally the same argument god I fucking hate you fudd cucks

>>32482707
Yea, they're quieter, they're just not hearing safe. Having a day of shooting with a non hearing safe suppressor is going to leave you with hearing loss, temporary or permanent, just the same.

That said a few shots such as when hunting or during home defense should be fine. I personally keep my ear protection in my night stand.

>>32482826
Yeah, same here. My muffs are sitting next to the mag for my HD gun. Still, I can't trust that I can get them on in an emergency, and I might prefer to have the situational awareness of bare ears anyway, so I'd much rather be able to run a can on my HD gun.

I used to be on a racing pit crew and used to fly prop planes, so my ears are already long-term fucked, it's the short term follow up awareness I'm concerned about. The last thing I want is for Jamal to come around the corner and catch me off guard after I've blown Tyrone's head off.

>>32482630
Good thing that many suppressors out that are hearing safe.
I have a Tirant 45. It is hearing safe on my 1911 and my 9mm SBR

>>32482909
>pistol shit
duh, that's easy.

>>32482641
>>32482717
>fudd
I am 12 and what is this?

>>32481493
>lets you maintain your vision and hearing so you can immediately identify whether the threat is taken care of or not.

If you couldn't see the thing to begin with then it's not likely you'll be able to see it afterwards regardless. If you could then the flash of a muzzle isn't gonna do anything. You don't need to be able to hear to know something is shot in the face

>>32482812
A silencer isn't an arm nor required to use one last anybody checked. Next you're gonna say slings and carrying cases are protected?

>>32482988
Yes

>>32482988
If you want to get technical though our fed govt calls a silencer a firearm. If it wasn't they wouldn't be able to regulate it with the same legislation as firearms and you wouldn't need to complete a 4473 upon taking receipt of a can from your dealer.

Go read the atf website on types of firearms according to the nfa

>>32480001
Who cares if a bunch ofgangbangers own silencers?
They aren't silent.

They do literally no harm to anyone.

it's good for hunting because, although the animals still hear the sonic boom of the projectile breaking the sound barrier, the suppressor keeps them from being able to tell which direction it came from. thus, they don't get spooked and start running away as easily. after shooting, they'll look around, run only a short bit instead of several miles, then look around some more and often just sort of stay there, like idiots. pretty nice to have if you're hunting with a friend who also has a tag, or you're culling a farm/property.

also suppressors reduce recoil and, in my experience, often increase velocity a tiny bit. cool little bonus.

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>>32483220
No, but it does take the "shots rang out" aspect. I like the idea that I can go buy a can, that anyone who can jump through a few little hoops can get one. A few bucks, a background check, and a wait seems reasonable to me

>inb4 SHALL

>>32480296
Nah, prices would fall drastically because all the overhead and red tape of making NFA items will be gone. That means a flooded market of Bill Bob's suppressors that drive everyone's prices down. No one will buy a $5000 can when you can buy one for $150 that does 99% the same thing.

>>32483584
I think it'll be somewhere in between. Good cans still use materials like titanium and inconel and people will still be able to patent designs, so there'll still be a high end market for good cans. There will definitely be plenty of cheap ones too, though.

>>32480296
all I want is that redneck oil filter adapter without my dog getting shot

>>32483595
Well sure, fancy ones will probably stay at their current price but they won't rise in cost.

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>>32483268
>often increase velocity a tiny bit

the whole point of a suppressor is to reduce gas and protective velocity

>>32479927
I just want a pewpew one

>>32480001
how's about you go fuck yourself. the 2nd amendment is for everyone.

>>32482982
>what is ocular adaption?

If you are in the dark and your eyes have become used to the light level the sudden muzzle flash wrecks it and gives the same blind spot as staring at the sun

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I have 2. A Silencerco Octane 45HD I use on my P226 MK25. Its great fun to shoot with no ears. And yes it looks cool. I think so anyway.

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My Silencerco Sparrow SS on my 22/45. This is super quite. Its not much louder then an Airsoft Gun. Worth a 200 tax stamp.

I am going to be getting a Silencerco Omega 30 soon. I hope the HPA goes through but ether way I am getting that can for my Gas Piston AR. I am going to build .308 bolt gun for it also because Hell yeah.

>>32483609
>add another several inches of sealed tube around gun barrel
>It shoots a little faster.

Suppressors are just a chamber for unburnt powder to burn and to slow down the gases from escaping out the end of the gun. They also they help with accuracy slightly too!

>>32483666
look at me, everyone, I'm a namefag

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I love rock hard cocks in my asshole

>>32483722
Yeah fig /b/ would show up

>>32483731
who are you?!? I'm me, not you!

>>32483666
It's too long

>>32482982
You sound like you want to ask why someone NEEDS suppressors.
Don't be a commie. Support all gun rights that you don't see causing more harm than good to 2a rights.
I'd say support all gun rights but I think what I said above should be something all gun owners should be able to get behind.

use a trip code bud, this isn't about /b/.

>>32483713
I think you're full of it.
But, to be open minded, I can't believe that any theoretical improvement would ever be significant enough to be measured.

>>32483786
Like I said slightly, It helps with accuracy by reducing the gases affect the bullet less when it leaves the barrel. At least thats what I hear. It could be like seating bullets almost to the rifling or even measuring the thickness of the rim of the shell. Small improvements that are only really felt by intense competitors.

>>32480222
>>32480296
At least for a year or two, the good shit will be very hard to get. Everyone and their mother would be wanting to get one.
I doubt suppressors are that hard to make.

>>32483850
They aren't hard to make at all and work fine for pistol rounds. I still have a notebook with my handwritten notes on how to make one copied from JollyRogers book I got off grokster in the 7th grade.
Shit, just meant to say that pvc suppressors work fine for pistol calibers, guess I get extra nostalgic right after waking up.

>>32483834
Hmm
Upon consideration, even if they don't gain any noticable mechanical accuracy, the reduced kick, flash and noise would certainly allow people more accuracy on quick follow up shots.

>>32479927
Because silencers offer a 20 to 30 db noise reduction.

That's equivalent to a set of good hearpro, FYI.

>>32483899
Yeah too bad you have the spend like a thousand dollars to get a minimum of improvement.

>>32483953
I can't imagine spending 1k on a suppressor unless I had some sort of fa rifle and wanted the longest living suppressor in the world.
Do the top of the line ones really make that much of a difference? I'm sure they're much smaller than the pvc equivalent for the same db reduction, but do they actually do all the suppressor stuff Better enough to warrant 1k?

>>32483994
nope, they make a huge profit. the product sales are limited due to the nfa so the makers need a wider profit margin for the small number of sales to function.

>>32484030
Figured as much. I'll stick to my pvc suppressors for pistol calibers and wait to see what happens with the law before making my mind up on a serious enough suppressor for my rifles.

>>32483271
>advocating a tax on a product that shouldn't have one

wew

>>32483609
The gasses that are deflected in the silencer help push the bullet forwards a bit.

>muh Newtonian laws

>>32483609
>wat is freebore boost

>>32479927
You have to be 18 to post on this board

>>32482778
Actually, he needs sub-sonic ammunition - no amount of suppression with hide the supersonic crack of the projectile leaving the muzzle

>>32482630
Yeah. In every home defense situation you must always make sure you put on your double ear pro, turn on your electronic muffs, take the ammunition out of one locked drawer and load it into the magazine from another locked drawer, put in your safety orange hunters vest, post on Facebook about it all, and then address the situation

>>32485285
But getting dressed is optional

>>32482982
Hello stupid person. I have shot more than a handful of people at night time in rural middle eastern areas with no electricity. If your eyes are adjusted for no/low light conditions, a muzzle flash will temporarily blind you similar to a flashbang. I thought this was common sense, but apparently it isn't.

>tl;dr- nigga, you dumb

>>32483584
Prices would probably shoot up temporarily (or just go out of stock everywhere) until manufacturers ramp up production to meet the higher demands. They'd drop eventually, but not immediately.

Check out this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0ah0X92wdY

>>32482988
But you're wrong the can is a firearm

>>32483597
This

>>32480001
You are sorely mistaken, the "ruff raff" like drug dealers have plenty of cash. The paper work is the real issue.

>>32480222
Trips czech'd

I just want a little person to sue the ATF et al over sbr's sbs' etc under the Americans with disabilities act - for being discriminated against & having to buy full size firearms & being unfairly taxed

>>32482879
What made you choose names typically given to negros? Just curious.

>>32480222
invest in titanium if you think the HPA will pass

>>32483597
So, is it a $200 permit for an oil filter or a plumbing part?

>>32486072
don't forget the 6+ month wait and all the flaming paperwork hoops to jump through.

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>>32486016
Statistics?

>>32486016
>The last thing I want is for Sir Reginald Wellington to come around the corner and catch me off guard after I've blown Francis J. Watson P.H.D's head off.

It doesn't make sense

>>32485971
That's just it, a small fee and a wait for a background check seems highly reasonable.

>>32480001
>i want the governments permission to put a muffler on a gun

holy cuck

>>32485285
You do what you want.

>>32486016
Racism