Do me a favor, /k/. Post modernized oldshit. It can range from

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>http://www.military-today.com/tanks/jaguar.htm

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>>32451773

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>>32451773
keep em coming.

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>>32451773
How come the Pattons have so many upgrade packages?

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Stridsvagn 104. A Centurion with a few rounds of upgrades.

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Half ironic.

>>32451819
Shit ton made. Shit ton sold to countries. Shit ton sold to countries that later resold them.

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Modernized autoloading 100mm KS-19 heavy flak from Iran.

Stridsvagn 74.

Take a WW2 medium (Stridsvagn m/42), rip off the turret, make a few general improvements, add an entirely new turret, and there you have a new light tank on the cheap to keep your (at that time brand spanking new) Centurions company.

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>>32451837

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>>32451833
Magachs look bad ass af.

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>>32451851
Yep. Reading up on them made me realize how fucking good Russians are at the ERA game.

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Upgraded T-55 have a special place in my heart.

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>>32451861
Anyone I'm going to bed lads, keep the thread going.

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Arisgator, a modernized, amphibious upgrade for M113

>>32451963
It's as if a M113 and a BTR had a drunken one night stand, and this was the result. So pretty much something that Japan or South Korea would build and call it innovation.

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Little more obscure one. Chieftain 900. A Chieftain with a composite armour kit and FCS improvements.

>>32452577
Shit that looks sexy

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Al-Hussein tank

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>>32452668

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>>32452686

>>32452668
That reduced profile turret is interesting. I wonder if it will become more commonplace as a compromise between the traditional layout and an unmanned turret.

>>32452706
It would be one of the more popular alternative for future tanks. Between unmanned turret, autoloader and extensive use of optical fiber (instead of copper wire), these improvement would make tanks to be up to 20 tons lighter.

Such an extensive weight savings could be reinvested in two ways;
>making a tank lighter and smaller, which uses smaller engine yet retain the same mobility, protection and firepower of today's contemporary tan

or
>uses the weight savings on thicker armor and bigger gun but having roughly the same weight as today's contemporary tank

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OP here. I'm happy to see this thread is still alive!

>>32451796
More of the Jaguar. A wonderful example of what upgrades can do to keep hardware competitive.

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An upgraded M113 Bardehlas (the Israeli designation for the M113) with the Toga armor suite (perforated steel plates mounted on an external frame around the front and sides of the vehicle). This offers comparatively better protection for a battle taxi like the M113.

There is also a with additional radio equipment and an auxiliary power unit called the Zelda Pikud (Zelda Command) to coordinate ground units.

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>>32451823
>Stridsvagn 104
Fuck, I love the Centurion. The first real MBT. Blew away all contemporary opposition.

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>>32451773

Panzer 2000, modernized Pz 68 with add-on armor.

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Iraqi T-55 Enigma. These took a hell of a pounding in Gulf War 2.

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Spanish M60A3E1 Cristobita

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>>32454452

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>>32454466

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Super M60 a.k.a M60AX

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T-62MV, one of the last T-62 upgrades developed by the Soviets.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEcXzDSaJow

So 80's

>>32451773
Anyone got modernized Nazi stuff?

>>32451773
>L7A3

Unless it was being offered by a non-US company, it was most likely using an M68 and not an L7.

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OTO Gorgona

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Bernardini X1A
Modernized Stuart LT

>>32451812
Is................ is that a naval gun?

>>32454604
122mm on a t-34

>>32454415
I think you might be thinking of the Conqueror.

Centurion was an excellent tank, but it wasn't until the Conqueror when the brits blew every one away. It was by far the most advanced/armored tank in the world when it hit the ground.

Either way both are great tanks.

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Pereh
M48 mounting Spike NLOS missiles in bustle superstructure. Dummy gun.

>>32454627
***** CORRECTION *****

After some research, I meant the Chieftain, not the Conqueror.

God damn brits and their tank names.

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Taiwan's M48H CM-11 Brave Tiger
M60 hull, M48 turret, M1 FCS.

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>>32454729

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South-African TTD

>>32454566
Yeah they got cut up, melted down, and remanufactured into tanks that were actually good.

>>32454604
Nope D-30 122mm howitzer

It's basically a SPH

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>>32454566
Ukraine

>>32455019
Syria as well

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Iran

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>>32455073

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>>32455116

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>>32455132
Whatever this thing is

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[Almost every aircraft in service by western countries today]

>>32454659
Naw man, the Chieftain would have been great if it wasn't so prone to breaking down. The Centurion was built to kill the German big cats but arrived a few weeks too late for that. It went on to be the best tank of the post-war period and saw a ton of action all over the world. It was still competitive into the 90s with upgrades. Everyone who bought it loved it.

>>32454519
I love that video

>>32454754
>when you want a Leopard 2A4 but can't afford one

>>32454601
is that fucking Jeremy Clarkson in there?

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>>32451861
Have some TR-85 Bizonul then!

The latest upgrade in the Romanian army'a aging T-55 fleet provides passive armor protection, new fire control systems, and a turret bustle with blowout panels.

The 100mm Molot is still somewhat weak, though there is talk of yet another upgrade which adds a 105mm/120mm gun and additional armor, as well as a replacement for the weak engine currently in use.

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>>32454604
This is.
>>32455173
>It was still competitive into the 90s with upgrades.
If you counted on going up against upgraded T-55/62s sure.

Mince meat for T-72s, T-64s etc.

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>>32455359
I have no idea why they do not retrofit it with L7's. Its been done multiple times. Its really the only legacy cannon worth a shit.

>>32455456
I mean shit, the chinks have been doing it for a longass time now.

>>32455359
Can the T-72's engines be fitted into T-55s? It would be a bitch to work on but dat 1000+ hp


>tfw you will never have a job upgrading aging tanks for sale to banana republic dictators

why live?

>>32455145
looks like some type of a BTR chassis with a turret slapped on top.

>>32455623
cuba.jpg

t55 turret iirc

>>32454500
>T-62MV
The most beautiful tank I ever saw.

>>32455516
Regarding size there should not be a problem.

The engine is viritually the same in the T-34, 44, 54, 62, 72 and T-90 when it comes to size as they are all based of the same design.

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>>32455701
Then you have not seen the T-80BV

>>32455712
I just looked into it. For some retarded reason I thought T-55s/62s were v10.

Or just rip the crackpipe really hard an have turbine T-55s. Now that' be something.

>>32455456
That is an Indian T-55 armed with 100mm D10, the fume extractor is a fake added so Indian gunners could tell friendly T-55 from Paki Type 59.

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OF-40 (Pastanigger version of Leopard 1) Upgraded into APC with BMP-3 turret, by a Belgian firm.

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Modernized Finnish BMP-2.
>Thermal sights.
>New optics.
>Thermal camouflage.
>Improved ergonomics.
>Minor safety improvements.
>Only ~$350k per hull.

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>>32456204
More Finnish BMP. This model is reequipped with a 25mm Busmaster chaingun in lieu of the 73mm HEAT gun on the original hull.

>>32455019
On of these is not like the others

>>32455359
Christ almighty romania, just buy some new tanks already.

>>32456538
Is that a panzer III?

>>32456259
I thought these BMP were equipped with Bushmaster II?

>>32456798

Yes.

>>32456796
Romania has been pretty poor. Now that they are a host for NATO B61s, expect lots of military investment through NATObux

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>>32456102
Fugg me retarded.

I'll redeem myself with a Type 79

>>32452155
They actually work, but no one needs swimming AFVs because contested beach assault is suicidal therefore obsolete, and light TAFV have been rendered forever obsolete by wheels which are easier to maintain and can be lost without a mobility kill.

>>32457262
>South-African TTD
if you're crossing a shit tonne of rivers maybe they could be useful, also for disaster relief in a pinch.

>>32451825
Wouldn't really say the T-80 is oldshit yet, it's from the same generation as the Abrams, just been more neglected because Russians have a hard on for the T-72 and its derivatives.

Also the T-84 is practically a new design, I believe it's built from the ground up rather than being modernized in the fashion other old tanks are.

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Is this okay? Really the only stuff I have.

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Another modernized Panther

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This one is more of a concept, if anything.
What a modernized E50 might look like.

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And a modernized E75.
That is from more. Sorry if this doesn't meet the OP qualifications.

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>>32454570
Leo C2 gives me wood.

>>32457465
moar

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>>32457486
This is the last picture I have to be honest
Some kind of futuristic Panzer or something

>>32452782
Or!
>make tank lighter and smaller, keep the same engine power as the larger tanks, have tanks that can sprint at fucking 100 km/h

FUND IT

>>32455221
I believe that the plan was to build the hull and electronics (fcs etc) in South Africa and import Leopard turrets, the turret in the pic is just a mock-up

Apartheid South Africa had sanctions but steel wasn't subject to sanctions, and turrets weren't classified as weapons

>>32457762
>goodbye suspension and track life my old friend

>>32457962
Hey, if the tank is 20 tonnes lighter, it won't be nearly as rough on the suspension.

>>32457762
>>32457962

A Leopard 2 (or well, specifically the Strv 121) can do over 100 km/h if you remove the peacetime regulator.

Ofcourse nobody would do that tho...

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>>32456826
>>32456796
It's a fugazzi used to make movies. Most likely made from steel plates and cobbled together slavshit running gear

>>32455145
>>32455623
>>32455636
The gun and mantlet are from the M47s, which iran had a shit ton of, Those M47's had their 90mm removed for the mantlet and 105 from the M60 fitted to a new turret which is here >>32455132
From What I can remember the power pack from the 60 was also used in the iranian M47 modernization program

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>TFW the T55's russian gun sucks so much that you need to throw an M18 hellcat turret and 76mm gun on top

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>>32458631

>>32458631
>>32458643
http://www.moddb.com/groups/tanks/images/t-55m18-army-of-bosnia-herzegovina-arbih-1997

>One of the most unusual adaptations of the M18 was this odd combination developed by a Bosnian unit in one of their workshops. It consists of a M18 turret mounted on a T-55 tank hull. Presumably, the T-55 hull lacked a suitable turret, other- wise the combination makes little sense. The workshop added a circular ring to make up the difference in diameter between a M-55 turret and the much smaller M18 turret.

Any MIG-21 variant in use past the 70s.

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>>32458631
>>32458753

slavaboo and vatniks BTFO

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>>32458792
ask ISIS

>>32458816
>dumb American doesn't know it was turretless to begin with.

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>>32458494

>Ofcourse nobody would do that tho...

>>32451819

They're mechanically sound

105mm is good for pretty much everything other than shooting modern MBTs from the front

The base armor of ~200mm is pretty good in that adding another ~300mm on top mitigates a lot of threats other than the most modern weapons

If you already have a lot, then it makes sense

>>32455019
>when SHTF but you're a wheerboo

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>>32451773
Superior to M1 Abrams in every way.

Except in cost.

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>>32457637
>>32457465
>>32457457
>>32457448
>>32457443
goddamn that gives me Wheerboo boners

>>32458494
>Leo 2 can do over 100km/h
>Germans literally built another Blitzkrieg machine

EU Army is actually the Fourth Reich.

>>32459141

Not at all

Glacis design is shit (it was simple spaced armor, but assuming you upgrade it), in that you have little to work with

The 120mm gun is better for tank vs tank; you'd need to upgrade and lengthen the 152mm to handle higher pressure APFSDS

The turret front shape is shit for protection

>>32457443
>>32457448

It'd need a bigger turret for 105mm

Think of say, Centurion-sized, and you'd have something close to a post-WW2 Panther

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>>32454519
>90% First round hit probability

>>32459171
>Texas flag

>>32456818
You are correct.

>>32455456
That's clearly an L7

>>32457072
> host for NATO B61s
we are?

The US never tried to modernise their M103s? It was a pretty tank. The same goes for the Soviet T-10.

>>32461863
what would it do better that other tanks developed at the same time did?

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>>32458792
What about this one

>>32461914
How is that related to a Mig-21 at all?

>>32461863
>modernizing heavy tanks
the whole point of tank evolution in the 1950s was switching to the MBT concept. heavy tanks are resource-hungry, inefficient, slow monsters, which is directly at odds with the concept of the MBT being an all-around good vehicle. even if it would save money immediately to improve the T-10 rather than develop the T-54/55, it would cost more in the long run.

>>32461926
And yet every Western tank now is nearing superheavy status by 1940-1950s standards, just with engines so big they can still gofast.

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>>32461925
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sabre_II

It's basically the F-7CP "Super-7" with a new rear end. Super-7 was an upgraded J-7, which is a Chinese-built Mig-21 with a cranked wing

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>>32461974

>>32461950
Thanks to World of Tanks, AMX 13s make my dick diamonds.

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Chilean Super Sherman rolling through toot toot. No longer in service, last footage I saw was one of them getting blown to shit by a Spike ER in 207

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F5 tiger 3 from Chile. Upgraded by Schlomo Scheckelberg so it can carry python 4 and BVR capabilities

>>32454419
Panzer 2000 isn't the correct name though. It's Panzer 68 EP (Erprobungsträger) it got canceld due to the Panzer 68 scandal and the 380 Leopard 2 we were buying back then

>>32454452
Funny thing here - those aren't applique armor, those are just blocks of reinforced concrete poured in thin metal shells.

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German Marder IFV fitted with the French FL-20 "Clovis" oscillating turret.

>>32463000
Why do the french have an oscilating fetish?

>>32452697
Nice, is that an AMX-13 Upgrade!?

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>>32463276

The oscillating turret offered the advantage of a simple and virtually foolproof system of sights for the gunner and the commander,
which were fixed in its upper part. They did not, therefore, move in relation to the gun, so that once they were bedded in they seldom required further boresighting. The oscillating turret also made it possible to mount the gun much closer to the turret roof than in any conventional turret, because no space had to be provided under the roof for the upward movement of the breech end of the gun.
This minimised the height of the turret which had to be exposed by the tank such as the AMX-13 to fire from behind cover and, therefore, reduced the chances of it being hit in defensive positions.

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>>32462233

Thanks, do you have more informations about it ?

>>32454519
I want to go back

>>32459624
why is it funny?

>mfw i actually don't know
>i can think both of its laughably low or laughably high

>>32463697
First round hit probability decrees considerably with the distance. Stating a 90% FHP is either way to high or they accidentally forgot to mention it would be at ranges closer than 500m, specially for an AMX-40

>>32464497
thx 4 the info m8

much obliged

>>32461957
>And yet every Western tank now is nearing superheavy status

HEAT is one hell of a drug.

>>32454603
oooo.... I like. any opinion on how she handles as a weapon system?

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>>32455019
>MFW shiny perfect looking Pz. III in the motor pool
missed it the first time, wonder how well she runs given her age. Can't be a worse ride on the field then some of the pseudo-WW1 Ghetto-tech technical "tanks" I see coming out of the middle east.

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Hue M3 Stuart X1A2

>>32454601

Is that a fucking Iltis?

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>>32464881

>>32465147
ARE YOU TELLING ME THE BLYAT MOBILE HAS BEEN REAL THIS ENTIRE TIME

>>32463000
[Blutfehde intensifies]

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This is what us Brits are getting soon - The Ajax. It is always shown covered in netting so that nobody notices it is a bargain basement copy of the Spanish ASCOD, that has been in use for the past 25 years. Wooh Great Britain!

>>32465312
what role does the Ajax even get with its 2+4
forward observer?

>>32465312

>a bargain basement copy of the Spanish ASCOD

If you call replacing the engine, sights, electronics, turret, gun, armor, tracks, suspension, crew modules, defensive aids and basically everything other than the base chassis with vastly superior components "bargain basement"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDZRf_ed1ZI

>>32465312
That's a lot of glass.

>>32465375
>>32465312
If it ain't broken

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Scoropion 90,

for when a 76mm LV Hesh lobbing gun isn't that good and you want a 90mm HV

>>32465346
Recce replacing CVRT series that usually carries mounted AT/AA/ recce and the scimetar which is solely recce.

I hate to say it but the warrior is not good for recce...

>>32465449
I forgot to type asking what people thought about this.

>>32465346

Force recon, battlefield networking and datalinking targeting data out the wazoo.

It's less about sneaky sneaky as it is about seeing things from afar and bringing the pain from the sky and artillery down on them.

>>32465621
>>32465312

Gah fuck it i may as well tell you about it

In a and far far away... sometime ago...

In local regiment, recce platoon, lots of guys were from the same towns, villages, and even schools.

> Recent OPMI in recce platoon got hit and rotated back to blighty.
> Replacement one turns up. friend of ours with another 2 guys in the section.
> Hadn't spoke to him in like 8 months, so bit weary about him being our guy.
> has like 4 knives on him, tactical gear whidgets, gadgets and doohickeys
> knuckledusters CNC'd out of tungsten...
>trying to look super ally (operator), you get the idea...
> everyone makes fun of him behind his back
> "whats he gonna do with 2 knives?"
> Have to roll into a town over from ours, has never had coalition troops in.
> being recce we recce.
> In warrior en route to OP, overwatch, maybe take out some targets of opportunity as another platoon probes
> Dismount and get on top of compound
> see other platoon under fire
> OPMI buddy whacks out his long (sharpshooter rifle)
> gets a couple of kills.
> Start hearing mumbling below us
> "Allah akbar"
> wankers come out from everywhere
> seemed like 20 maybe 30,
> pull back to warrior, mount up
> switch hatch safety lockout back to commander.
> Donk donk donk.
> "Let me in cunts..."
> hear muffled moonspeak
> "Let me in they're right behind me"
> He becomes more panicked as he asks.
> Start laughing our heads off, can't open hatch because of commanders safety override, and can't tell him to switch it back to me
> He asks one last time, "let me in they're right behind..." seems really panicked now
> Suddenly hear muffled bangs from gunfire
> Then a coupld of rounds strike the body, clang clang clang,
> then silence,

>>32465816
cont (2/2)
> We stop laughing as we realise OPMI could be dead or worse
> Eventually manage to tell commander to rotate gun as they're right outside and undo the safety.
> No targets apparently
> Dismount
> he's bent over a body, policing it,
> Absolutely covered in blood
> got 7 or 8 confirmed and a few others dragged off as wounded
> Some with his knife
> ask him if he's ok
> just walks past me and mounts up
> on way back to FOB
> awkward silence, he's just staring
> Starts laughing like a path and a half maniac
> Ask him whats funny
> "being locked out"

RTB'd and guys started making fun of him until they were told he got some confirmed with his knife

>>32459201
That's been obvious for years. The only difference is that it's France instead of Italy as their main ally.

>>32465816

is it seven bong?
What the fuck am I reading? tacticool faggo earns his gear?

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>>32465621
It's too unstable for such a small light tank, even when the gun itself is a low pressure variant.

Malaysia had them for almost 30 years now. It basically filled the role of a tank before we bought PT-91

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>>32469743
When it underwent modernization, the 90mm cockerill gun was removed in favor of 20mm rapid fire cannon, among other things

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>>32469784

>>32458631
>>32458643
>>32458753
>The lovechild of T55 and M18 was born during the war in Bosnia. Bosnian Serb T55 was knocked out by Bosnian Muslim forces and captured. It was not damaged enough so they used it in their army.

>Some months latter Bosnian Serbs in a battle hit the same tank pretty good (or bad if you are in the tank) and the turret was destroyed. After that battle the Serbs checked out the wreckage and found out that it can still move. Just had no turret. And good old Balkan ingenuity did the rest. When the tank was brought to the shop someone noticed that the turret ring is just about like the M18s of which a few were lying around. And voila.

>The tank changed hands again a year later when it was stuck im mud and captured again by Bosnians where it stayed to the end of the war. And it is possible that the original T55 was captured by the Serbs from the Croats so this tank fought for every side in the war anainst every other side. A hero and enemy of all 3 sides of the war.

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>>32465621

4 Kornets on this bad boy

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>>32470193

Upgraded launchers and what looks like a thermal 360 degree camera

>>32470231
That is pretty cool. It's like an ugly wiesel.

>>32470251

It'd be a pretty potent recce vehicle.

Beef up its comms and give it good observation abilities (if that 360 degree thing is only short ranged system for the MG), and you also have something that could lay down the smack from afar and defend itself

Its small size counts as defense against getting hit

>>32470193
what the fuck is in the background?

>>32461863

The Abrams did everything the M103 did better, and actually began service conducting its role, serving alongside the M60.

>>32455019
>day 26280
>the slavs still do not know I am a Panzer

>>32470231
>>32470193
British/Russian blanda is delicious.

>>32464817
it's probably a museum piece send to the factory for repaint. My dad used to work at TEREM, where they maintain armorored vehicles for the army.One time i went to visit him at his work station and there it was - a freshly painted Stug III.