https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGw kHktkTxU why is this co

>>32421034
>why is this company so based?

Because they fought for gun rights during the 80's and 90's and despite this people have this notion that hk haves civilians

people that hate HK but like a company like Ruger should neck themselves

>>32421174
This.

>HK hates civvies why else are their guns so expensive
I hate this notion. Truth is Us import laws from the early 90's cucked them especially when combined with Germany's outrageously miserable export regs and laws.

>>32421174
>>32421495
>buying German firearms in the [CURRENT YEAR]
>supporting Heckler and Cuck

>>32421531
Look found the cod kiddie who doesn't know about import laws.

>>32421614
You're still giving Germanistan money.

Buy American or go be a Commie somewhere else.

>>32421614
>Muh import laws
Didnt realize it forced them to sell us hk416 uppers without the chrome lining

File: jumping_spiders_lunch_by_macrojunkie.jpg (226KB, 1280x861px) Image search: [Google]

226KB, 1280x861px

>When there's that one fanboy on /k/ that keeps making threads about your special gun company.
Stop it.

File: 1480713989505.jpg (38KB, 377x377px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 377x377px

>>32421635
> being this /pol/

>>32421686
(((you)))

>>32421655
Because uppers are now full rifles...
Please go read the import export of both nations. Tell me what you find.

>>32421635
Jesus Christ, you're so /pol/ that you've damn near gone full circle.
Despite their retarded government and flood of refugees, most Germans are still bros.

Back on track, does HE not have manufacturing operations in the US? It's hardly ideal, but what's stopping them from pulling a SIG Sauer and just building their American-market guns here? Seems like that would solve a lot of headaches in the long run, given Germany's autistic export regulations.

>>32421833
>most Germans are still bros
AHAHAHAHA! Oh gee oh man.

Most Germans overwhelmingly support Merkel, and almost 100% of Germans hate even the idea of firearms. They love their little police state, and have enough Nazi guilt to last 100s of years. They will literally cry at the sight of a gun. I've seen it in person with foreign exchange students.

>>32421833
I believe that Germany is prohibiting them, not the US.

>>32421833
You could not be more wrong. Germans are the most pathetic, self hating group of people outside of Swedes.

You've obviously never met a German or been to Germany like I have.

>>32421725
So that doesn't explain why they were imported without chrome lining?

>>32421833
I don't think HK has a barrel forging machine in America and that's a significant expensive. Or they could just import the barrels, but I feel like HK is on an ATF shitlist.

>>32421894
white whores != most germans.

you saw all the dumb cunts crying when hillary lost? the vast majority of them are white whores. the same type of dumb white cunts that vote for traitors like merkel are in germany.

File: istock_000053966646_small.jpg (786KB, 766x627px) Image search: [Google]

786KB, 766x627px

>>32421957
That feel when you cold hammer forge the best polygonal rifling on the planet.

>>32421968
>the same type of dumb white cunts that vote for traitors like merkel are in germany
Which is statistically the vast majority of the German people.

In fact 54% of Germans are not only satisfied with Merkel, but they are "very satisfied".

File: GA_2016.06.29_balanceofpower-1-12.png (10KB, 310x438px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 310x438px

>>32421968
Germany is the most anti-American country in yurop. If you've ever been to Germany, they really hate America and American values.

This is especially true regarding firearms.

>>32422029
Note Greece is a statistical anomaly here because of their debt crisis.

>>32421968
From 2012:
>Germans still have overwhelming confidence in Obama's overall international leadership. In fact, at 87 percent, Germans are the most supportive in Europe. By comparison, in 2008 only 14 percent of Germans had confidence in then US President Bush. And nine out of 10 Germans want to see Obama re-elected.

>>32422029
>Italy
I knew I liked the right country.

>>32422029
>>32422056
>>32422081
Germany is liberal with mass immigration. That's why I don't feel bad if some terrorist drives a truck through a crowd or something. I could just as easily label New York, California, President Obama and therefore by proxy, America as being equally or even more liberal.

That doesn't mean that HK doesn't make good guns. I like that they never focused on civilian sales and the thought them deciding to hire Mr. Cohen as a CEO someday is my only worry about the company.

Please just stop.

>>32421034
Please stop too. Also, I have a Colt. I like it and no, it isn't as well made as an HK but you can like them both.

>>32422029

But they make great firearms and optics with reputable performance. Hell, Zeiss and Steiner have factories in the United States, HK is missing a big opportunity not to manufacture in the United States.

File: HKAdvertising.png (51KB, 965x572px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 965x572px

>>32421034

File: GA_2016.06.29_balanceofpower-1-09.png (11KB, 310x461px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 310x461px

>>32422130
HK makes fine guns, but don't deny reality. Germans are ideologically pathetic. They are the most liberal, self-hating country outside of Sweden, and Germany is essentially a police state. Fuck Germany.

>>32422128
No you couldn't label America as being liberal like California, because America is not California. Germany by contrast is homogenous in their views. Almost every single German harbors the same political disdain for American values and has the same programmed self-loathing.

>>32421894
>>32421928
I have actually. Fuck, I dated one a while back. She was actually a crazy militaristic bitch who would've been very at home on /k/.
Germany has its fair share of neo-liberal SJW idiots like any country, including the US. The majority of the Germans I've met have been normal people, aside from the fact that they're really overly polite. Plus there's that weird cultural guilt they still have from the Nazis, but with the way the world came down on Germany after WWI I, it's hard to blame them. At least they didn't go full autist like the Japanese.

Also, Merkel's popular because it's perceived that she brought a lot of prosperity. She "made Germany great again", if you will, at least economically. It's a bit like how Reagan was a literal d
fudd and generally a dumbass, but he's loved because he happened to be in power when the economy was peaking and played it off well.

Massive countries full of millions of people are more complex than /pol/'s weird brand of collectovism would have you believe.

>>32422193
>No you couldn't label America as being liberal like California, because America is not California. Germany by contrast is homogenous in their views. Almost every single German harbors the same political disdain for American values and has the same programmed self-loathing.
America elected by a majority of votes and electors, President Obama, not once but twice. Therefore, America is a liberal shithole. No, I don't really believe that but I've also met a lot of Germans and they've been nice people. Furthermore, if you want to get into gun companies being anti-gun then we can start talking about Bill Ruger.

>>32422193
>liberal
Stop using this word wrong.

>>32422197
>fair share of neo-liberal SJW idiots like any country, including the US
No. Jewmany is mostly neo-liberal SJW idiots which is definitely not the case for America. See any of the infographics in this thread. Or in particular: >>32422193

>>32422193
>>32422029
>>32422081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d83IOGGEDWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d83IOGGEDWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2z2Ut6qrAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI

File: GA_2016.06.29_balanceofpower-0-00.png (22KB, 640x389px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 640x389px

>>32422227
>America elected by a majority of votes and electors, President Obama, not once but twice
Enough with the strawmans and your retard logic. Most Americans do not like Obama, while almost 90% of Germans do. Also America elected Trump while 89% of Germans as per the pic you responded to, hate Trump.

You are blantantly ignoring statistics.

>>32422193

Don't get me wrong guy, I agree with you but I wish HK would nut the fuck up and build some factories in the United States. Glock did it, Sig Sauer did it, and hell Mossberg did too.

Granted, I know Germany is incredibly autistic about their export laws and doesn't want one of their main firearms companies going to the United States but hell if we don't want them to come here though.

>>32422227
>Furthermore, if you want to get into gun companies being anti-gun then we can start talking about Bill Ruger.
We can start talking about almost all of the gun companies in America when 1989 rolled around.

>>32422257
>hey look at this one German
>therefore all Germans are based!
Oh hey guess what? Even that "based" German admitted he hates the idea of guns. Ever noticed how he doesn't have a single gun video?

>>32422273
>Mossberg

>>32422257
Never mind. I take this >>32422278 back. I didn't see your second video. However he has stated before that he dislikes firearms and prefers his rubber-band bows.

>>32422278
That's why he has 34 of them right?
You're just wrong.
>nb4 no you're not
yes you are.

>>32422283

i fucked up bad.

Sorry.

>>32422299
See >>32422290

>>32422299
>>32422320
Also most of his "firearms" aren't even real firearms, and even in that video, which I'm watching now he clearly expresses support for German-style gun control.

>>32422345
All I heard him say was he supports required gun safes for storage which I also agree with.

>>32422380
He also said people shouldn't be able to shoot on their own property and implied guns should only be for casual sporting purposes.

>>32422380
Also:
>required gun safes
>>>/california/

>>32422394
Watched the whole video and didn't hear that.
Here is his video on German self defense laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrsuHtuqJKw

File: 1378938023978.gif (922KB, 400x225px) Image search: [Google]

922KB, 400x225px

>>32422029
AW SHIT SON
Japan and Poland want to have us put a baby in them

>>32422421
He says it right at 4:40.
>"Even if it's outside of the city limits there is no way. You have to go to a certified range."
"It would be catastrophic if people would be allowed to shoot out in the woods."

>>32422421
>"can defend your honor"
>say bad things about rapefugees and go to prison
I think Hans there is a little out of touch.

>>32422448
Yeah. Eastern yurop is pretty based. They should just secede from yurop and call themselves something else.

>>32422464
>>32422491
Alright, fair enough.

>>32422504
They can call themselves misses America. If you know what I mean

>>32422464
Not agreeing, but I can see where that mentality comes from. Europe's population density is a hell of a lot higher than most of the US.
It's the same reasoning behind us not being able to hunt with rifles south of a certain latitude here in Michigan. Shotguns and bows are fine, but they're worried about a rifle round hitting someone's house like a mile or two downrange.

>>32422421
Lol at the German comments on that video.
>Busdriverx our culture was always a mixture of different cultures. There is no German culture so no need to defend one!
>I am german and i have great friend from Russland, Turkey, Portugal and so on. I dont get the problem with immigration!
>I will, you and all your other ignorant radicals will hopefully die out before that happens!

God damn. I hate Germans.

>>32422538
>our culture was always a mixture of different cultures
this statement reeks like it was made by someone who immigrated to germany

>>32422538
>you and all your other ignorant radicals will hopefully die out before that happens!
>God damn. I hate Germans.
interesting.

>>32421034
>the music

I actually love this

>>32422556
Nah the commenter's name is Christoph. It's what Germans actually believe.

>all of these stats

Wow. I had no idea Germany was this bad.

They deserved that truck attack, and worse.

>>32421635
I cant think of one american pistol i would want
and most of those guns arent made in america, tard
thats the part that counts

>>32422606
Google 'oikophobia.' Western Civilization is suffering from a massive attack of it right now. We may be able to do triage. Europe, most of it, would appear to be terminally fucked.

>>32422648
>doesn't want any of the best pocket pistols ever made
>doesn't want a Ruger .22LR
>doesn't want a 1911
>doesn't want most John Browning designs
>doesn't want a Colt Python
>doesn't want basically every good revolver
>doesn't want etc ...
Thanks for telling us you're a noguns.

>>32422648
1911's are the only American made handgun that is desirable IMO and they're as American as Apple pie and they have the best triggers in the world, have stood the test of time and are still relevant over century after their introduction. It's really amazing.

I love hk guns though.

>>32422700
>>32422707
Oh, and revolvers I guess.

>>32422707
>only desirable handgun
Here's a short starter list. >>32422700

>>32422700
Not him, but you're correct, none of those really interest me. I like European military pistols, actually. Luger, P38, military Hi-Powers, Lahti, Tokarev, etc. Among modern guns I'm a Beretta guy. Revolvers, 1911's, etc. just bore the hell out of me.

>>32422724
Well the Hi-Power is half-American, and are you saying that you don't want a pocket pistol for concealed carry or a bear gun?

File: 1482188355277m.jpg (86KB, 601x1024px) Image search: [Google]

86KB, 601x1024px

>>32422724
These are my current handguns. I haven't been able to center my groupings but that's not the point. I have a 1911 and an HK currently. I've had 3 HK products, 3 1911's.
I've owned 4 Walthers, 7 Glocks, 2 Rugers, 3 S&W revolvers, that Colt, a Kimber, a Springfield, a Bersa and probably some others I can't think of. I've had some minor issue or another with literally every brand except HK.

File: DSC_1267.jpg (3MB, 3840x2160px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3840x2160px

>>32422802
The colt started locking the slide back mid magazine, multiple times. Traced it to a slide stop that was sticking too far into the magwell. I guess it wore in or something, idk. Polished it down and it's fine.

>>32422747
I carry a P38 and don't need a bear gun here. Serves me perfectly well. If I ever feel like getting a pocket pistol, it'll probably be somthing weird like a Mauser 1914 or CZ 24. Yeah, I'm a hipster/autist. I don't care.

Honestly, there are almost no American guns that I particularly like. M1917 Enfield (which is German/British), M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, Winchester Model 70, A1-configured AR...that's really about it. Most of the guns I like are European, for one reason or another.

>>32422700
I was thinking about current production models
I dont want a pocket pistol not in 9x19
I dont want a .22 pistol
I dont want a 1911 unless its a war pistol
I guess I would buy a hipower if it was a great deal. Same with a python
I have a USP compact in 9mm
I want to get a Jericho in .40, a CZ 2075, or maybe a HK P7, and a HK USP .45 Tactical

File: DSC_1257.jpg (4MB, 3840x2160px) Image search: [Google]

4MB, 3840x2160px

>>32422818
Emblem also fell off but I glued it back in. Guess I haven't really had a problem with the Rugers either, they're just clunky and having to detail strip the sp101 every range trip to clean out from under the cylinder was annoying. I've had issues with 2 Glocks.
HK really is the only brand I've never had an issue of with but even then I installed a lighter hammer spring.

>/pol/ immediately derails another thread
you guys are such fucking faggots

>>32422802
>>32422818
>>32422844
Oh and I also had a Steyr that kept stopping short of going into battery but was close enough the striker would hit the edge of the primer.
I also had 3 sigs I forgot about, the 938 had issues.

>>32422838
>production models
Well then you still have a great selection of revolvers and semi-autos like the M&P Shield.

As for pocket pistols, America can't be beat:
>smallest 9mm ever produced: Rohrbaugh R9
>smallest .380: Seecamp .380
>best quality .25 autos
>Derringers in every caliber known to man.
I personally carry a Seecamp .380 and I wouldn't carry anything else.

>>32422844
How is that P2000?
A lgs near me has one for approx $600 new. Comes with 2 mags is it worth it maybe?

>>32422923
Well I told you what I want and none of its American
The only new american guns i would want are Ruger LC9 and S&W R8
Maybe if I had real money I could get a custom Dan Wesson revolver or a Wildey Magnum

>>32422939
>How is that P2000?
Short answer = good

I have the DA/SA trigger and it's mediocre. For $3.99 I got a Wolff 10lb hammer spring and I dry fired it (with snapcap) a shit ton of time before detail stripping it but and with the action filled with FLITZ polishing compound. That helped and the 10lb hammer spring has chewed through Tula, PPU, Magtech and remanufactured without a hiccup.

If I had it to do over again, I would get the LEM light trigger. There's 2 LEM triggers, the light and normal.

If you kind of want a Glock 19 but would rather have a hammer and more chamber support, the p2000 is probably a pretty good choice for you.

>>32422601
I know gooks named emily.

>>32422700
As an who owns a jetfire. American pocket pistols are trash. 1911s are not a necessary purchase, they're great but not a need to have piece.
>revolvers
Stop being deliberately obtuse.

>Based
>No 10mm USP
>No MP5 10mm
Fix that and we'll talk

>>32422859
kys

>>32421954
Because its extra money that only really benefits you if you shoot corrosive shit and/or dont clean your shit ever

>>32421034
Because they make guns that work out of the box. You don't need to spend 400 trying to make the gun work or "run better". The biggest criticism they are drawing these days is from the VP9. If anyone has handled one you would understand why, you would also understand why it's really dumb to carry such a gun. With that said HK makes the best noncustom guns.

>>32422700
The only browning design I could conceivably want is an M2, and really I'd rather it be an M3M.

Fuck Ruger, fuck the 1911, fuck revolvers.

>>32424831
There was a 10mm MP5, but 10mm is the wrong cartridge for an MP5.

10mm is such a meme.

File: 1481281869387.jpg (151KB, 956x1201px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 956x1201px

>>32422128
>California, New York and Democrats representing America

If that were true, Trump wouldn't of won

File: 10mm.jpg (244KB, 1002x1290px) Image search: [Google]

244KB, 1002x1290px

>>32424831
>gib these 2 in 10mm plox

>>32424921
Trump shouldn't have won.

All politicians should have been killed.

>>32421928
Well, when I was recovering in Germany, I snuck out of the hospital into the nearest town and the first "Germans" to greet me were Turkish.

>>32422227
And Colt and Smith&Wesson were any better?

Rugers kids and then the next ceo who took over from them have redeemed the company by rolling back their gun locks, selling assaukt style rifles and more.

>>32424903
Legitimately curious. Whats wrong with 10mm in mp5 (or mp5k specifically). Was planning on having a custom mp5k sbr in 10mm built this year by IGF once I got all the parts together. Haven't bought anything yet though, so if there a serious problem with this combo, I'm all ears.

>>32422273
This. Europe is being hostile to gun companies with the exception of the Italians and Belgians. For some reason FN basically makes all the guns for the Western World's military and owns several American Brands.

H&K would be more appreciated in the USA, especially in say a place like Texas or the midwest.

>>32422277
This.

No American gun company had the back bone to stick up for civilians, Colt happily stamped their guns Law "Enforcement and Military only"

And ignored the civilian market even after the AWB lifted.

>>32424978
iirc, Mauser became HK? Lots of history there.

>>32424966
Nothing mechanically. I just think .357 SIG is perfect for what are, essentially, small rifles.

File: 1427912380348.jpg (931KB, 3000x1954px) Image search: [Google]

931KB, 3000x1954px

There are more then enough people in germany who dislike massimmigration, the European Union and everything Merkel stands for.
Let's wait till next year when the election shows that not all germans are cucked to the bone.

I love weapons, I like the majority of the american people and punched a russian in the face (Spätaussiedler) to months ago. I still consider the constitution of the United States of America as a rolemodel for my country. Unfortunatley, Germany has no democratic traditon at all and therefore hates true freedom. But I don't want to forsake Germany yet. Things usually get worse, before they get better. Hopefully we will embrace the AMERICAN way of patriotism in the future.

God bless you all. Einen wunderschönen Heiligabend Euch allen.

All weapon's tests should be set to 80's action movie soundtracks.

www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=AGwkHktkTxU&video_start=0&audio=SQUeQOIlcDM&audio_start=0

>>32424992
In case you don't know:

I'm not even talking about the 1994 AWB. I'm talking about the 1989 EO that banned the import of semi automatic "military style" rifles like the various FALs, HK91s, AKs, and some exotic things like the FAMAS under the 1968 GCA.

The ATF sent around a poll asking whether or not these rifles had a 'sport purpose' (something required under the GCA for the rifles to be importable) and basically every manufacturer except HK went "lol no".

File: 1474260338001.jpg (111KB, 800x534px) Image search: [Google]

111KB, 800x534px

>Supporting any pro-Islamic German business

>CURRENT YEAR

>>32424889
Why do people hate on the VP9? I'm not very experienced but I shot one and had no problems with it

>>32425040
Thanks, I'll look into .357 sig before I start going forward.

>>32425586
The lighter springs can lead to issues returning to battery. This isn't an issue for range use(I used to own the VP9) but when you carry it this may be a concern if it gets really dirty. Of course this can easily be fixed by getting extra power springs. I enjoyed having the VP9 because it was a great gun to teach new people to shoot. The slide was easy to manipulate so any girl could do it as well as having very minimal buttons/controls for operation. The MAC videos may be misleading as he claims the tactical has an extra power spring but I wasn't able to find any weight difference between the two.

>>32421034
poorfags hate them! why?
click here to find out...

>>32424869
so basically, it is usefull when you are actually using your gun and plan to clean it only once of twice per month

>>32421034
>We are going to test a gun built to be fully submerged in water
>Against a gun that clearly is not intended for that purpose and that no military uses for their frogmen
Wow! Just look at those results!

>>32421983
They really do make the best barrels. My LGS has a USP 9mm that was made in the early 90's (94 I believe based on date code), that has been a range gun since new. It has 50k+ rounds according to the owner, and the rifling looks brand fucking new. I compared the barrel to my then brand new USP 9mm, and couldn't tell a difference. Also, he said its on its second recoil spring, and has had a main spring replaced.

Incredible quality, and engineering.

>>32425624
What's your opinion on America muslim guy?

>>32425624
I think this is why non-vp hk's don't have the best triggers. Springs are way stronger than needed if you maintain your gun or aren't in a battlefield trench or something.

>>32425624
Oh ok thanks

Whats up with the german bashing influx since the last month?

>>32422278
>Lol look at this small group of people
>Surely they will represent the whole country

/pol/ logic right there

>>32422029
True. I'm a german and germans look down a lot on america. They think americans are

stupid (don't know geography, religious, etc.)
racist (duh)
gun nuts with movie wild west shootouts all the time
imperialistic (basically at fault for everything wrong in the middle east and most of the rest of the world)
naked capitalists with wageslavery and shit
Oh, and voting Trump apparently means you're all absolutely bananas, but that should be expected.

That's just the general sentiment. For reasons unknown to me, this is both in the left and the right wing. Left wingers usually focus more on the capitalism and imperialism. Right wingers often think it's americans who "influence" germany to be the left wing cuckstate it is (much like americans blame the jews). Both decry american "aggression" against russia.
To be fair, the political establishment is mostly pro-NATO, and some right-wing platforms have a reasonable (favourable) view of american culture. I also think there might be some kind of bias with the america-haters being very vocal about their opinions.

>>32428690
Oh, and you have a very good reason HK doesn't like to sell guns to civilians: If the next Sandy Hook is done with an MP5, there will be public outcry in germany, some prosecutor will look extra hard into that one batch of guns that (illegally) ended up in Mexico through several stations and some bank will publically exclaim not to fund those evil gun makers any more... or something of the sort.

>>32428690
>stupid (don't know geography, religious, etc.)
I'm horrible at geography and languages. I don't know much European or even a lot of American history. I did study quite a bit of math and physics though because that's more interesting to me. What's the point of memorizing names and dates? Honestly, it means little to me. As for geography, I always thought it's weird how other countries know the individual states and stuff. I mean why?
>racist (duh)
Not really. I'm also not blind to statistics.
>gun nuts with movie wild west shootouts all the time
Germany and France have us beat for that stuff if you just look at the last 2 years.
>imperialistic (basically at fault for everything wrong in the middle east and most of the rest of the world)
It's funny because out founding documents and philosophy specifically prohibit imperialism and yet we like to do regime changes and set up puppet governments. I guess it's guilty as charged. Lots of people do not support this.
>naked capitalists with wage slavery and shit
Some people just aren't worth much. It's weird that people think they should be able to make a good living off of the most menial bottom feeding tasks. Get a better job. Can't? Then you aren't worth more anyway.
>Oh, and voting Trump apparently means you're all absolutely bananas, but that should be expected.
I love Trump. Trump supporters take him seriously but not literally. Anti-Trumpers take him literally but not seriously. I think Hillary supporters are absolutely insane and more often than not, completely stupid.

>>32429800
Other countries don't anything about geography, either.