Can someone explain how bullets and body trauma work? There doesn't

>>32386148
Bubbling = air flow through the wound, i.e a lung shot. Because the temporary cavity expands momentarily as the bullet travels through and then constricts, there isnt a fuckhueg hole for blood to pour out of. Also, the human body isnt a meatbag filled with blood, it is a system of organs, arteries, veins etc all in a protective dermis, so its not going to just leak out like a punctured water balloon, it depends on shot placement and what major organs and/or circulation parts are affected; if you got shot in the shoulder, it wont bleed much. If you got shot in the inner thigh or the neck, it will bleed a fuckload, as there are major veins/arteries in those areas which will keep trying to pump blood through.
Furthermore, depending on the severity, depth and size of the wound, clotting will kick in fairly quickly, thus reducing bleeding.

>>32386148

Organs getting damaged bleed internally mostly

It's only surface arteries, veins and head hits, that bleed a lot externally

>>32386226
>>32386244
What about he blood pouring from the mouth and nose? That's what freaks me out the most.

Did he kill him on a TV stage?

>>32386517
The ambassador was making a filmed speech at an art gallery
The assassin knew about the event and used his police credentials to pretend to be part of the security detail. He even made his way behind him too look like a bodyguard as seen in this photograph. When the ambassador went to make his speech while the cameras were rolling, the assassin struck in order to get the most impact out of the political statement he was trying to make

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>>32386579
forgot the photo

When your blood pressure drops and you go into hypovolemic shock (or you're just dead) there is often not a lot of blood at the scene. Bullet wounds often self-seal into slits, and as noted there's not a ton of pressure pushing the blood out. The roach assassin got a bunch of rounds center mass, so the Russian's heart was probably not pushing a lot of fluid by the time he hit the floor.

>>32386654
>hypovolemic
My mistake, cardiogenic shock.

Russians aren't human so they don't bleed

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>>32386148
>The age old Russian tradition of dying in worn out shoes

Holy shit what a poor country

>>32386901
>He doesn't scuff up his new dress shoes.

Newfag

>>32386923
>He wears leather soles

Grandpa

>>32386261
Wound in your respiratory system and the upper digestive tract.

>>32386923
Those are nearly worn through poverty slippers. How poor does a mation need to be that their ambassadors can't afford new shoes?

FATTIES DONT BLEED

CUZ THEY ARENT HUMAN

>>32386946
>Russia's ambassador to a country that shot down one of their fighter jets

>>32386148

Not sounding like a smartass but bullet holes are relatively small. You usually dont get a hollywood style gushing wound unless you hit an artery or something.

Also, dead dude had several layers of clothing on to absorb a some of the leakage. Pics show shirt, suit vest and suit jacket. Old fuck like him would be wearing some sort of undershirt as well. It would take time for seepage to occur.

>>32386148
Jesus Christ how many of these fucking threads are you going to make? I know it's you because in every thread you try and spout some shit to convince other people it's a false flag and you get btfo. Last time you got btfo by a goddamn EMT and now you're here trying to figure out how blood loss works to stir more shit about an already not /k/-related assassination

>>32387807
OP here. I was just curious why there wasn't a lot of blood. Not everything is a /pol/ conspiracy, you know.

>>32386148
There's not a lot of blood because the weapon used shot 9mm Luger. That caliber was designed in WWII and tends to barely penetrate into the tissue directly beneath the skin and will not penetrate bone. That is why the assassin had to discharge so many rounds. He also most likely had halo points designed for the military. Caliber makes a huge difference in pistol guns.

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Is this the most A E S T H E T I C assassination to ever occur?

>>32386148
The guy was shot in the back and fell backwards. He's lying on top of the blood, and because these photos were taken only seconds after the shooting, the blood pool hasn't spread out from his body yet.

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>>32387987
that level of perfect aesthetic composition might actually really be absolutely singular in history.

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>>32388026
It's fucking surreal. The turkroach even paused for a second during his post-assassination screaming to readjust a crooked painting on the wall

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>>32387987
maybe

>>32387889

Bruh

>>32386261
If I remember that guy got shot from the front of one shoulder out the back of the opposite one. A very bad way to get shot. Likely got both lungs and heart. So I think he might of drown in his own blood first.

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>>32388026

>>32389010
Man thats remind me of the korean movie bittersweet life. So much Aesthetic.

>>32386148
Media releasing only the mild photos.

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>>32388026
Well we can't let this opportunity pass.

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It makes a great wallpaper, desu senpai.

>>32388080

Do you have the picture of him doing that?

Dumb question time, what's the beef anyway? Why did this Turk cop waste the old Russian ambassador?

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>>32389118
Sadly I don't. I'm sure there's a thread on /pol/ or /tv/ where someone might have it though.

Really fucking bizarre.

>>32389182
I would legit watch that movie.

>>32389172
Presumably because he was pissed at Erdogan for roaching up the country and he wanted to isolate Erdogan from foreign support.

>>32389078
Fucking kek

>>32386901
>wearing good shoes to the land of roaches

>>32388455
Jesus H. Christ my sides

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Some more aestheticism, courtesy of /pol/

the guy was fat, fat seals entry wounds, and Im guessing he was shot mostly in the lungs which just fill with blood

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>>32389182

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>>32386148
>car thief getting shot and blood is literally gushing and bubbling from the wound and his mouth

I know the one you're thinking of. That's an exit wound, in through the shoulder, and out through the neck. Thief was probably high on something which explains the heart beating for so long.

From what I've seen of the ambassador they were all in the chest and head, it only looks like one got through where his tie is sticking up and a button has popped off his vest. He was super dead super fast, so he ain't got time to bleed.

Public speaking sucks, why do daesh shits always target people having a bad time already?

>>32389445

Thanks mate

>>32387987
Thats following the rule of thirds really well actually

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>>32389558

I wonder how that AP photographer feels right now. He could have just sat there and crapped himself with the other people but instead he just sat and took more photos. Do modern DSLR's make a mirror snap noise anymore or is that old tech now?

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>>32389102
Good to see I'm not the only one

>>32389586
HOLY SHIT

THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S IN LETTERBOX

>>32389445
he's human too. nice

>>32389594
exactly ;)

>>32389627
I now need to watch a movie with great cinematography. I've got that itch.

>>32389102
>Windows

Commit seppuku

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First hit Album of 2017

Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş Feat. Andrei Karlov

Making Friends (The Syrian Saga)

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>>32389809

Im retarded

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This literally could've been a shot from a Jason Bourne movie.

Props to the photographer.

>>32386901
Just shows he worked hard pussy.

Successful shooters use the weaver stance

>>32389677
>Commit seppuku
Don't you mean sudoku?

>>32389822
anal bum cover

>>32389871
>Tfw you got to study abroad in Japan for a year but you joined the Cult of the Holy Wind in the first month, dropped out, and got deported when your student Visa ran out

No regrets tho.

>>32386148
Can someone please post the "Steal his Look" meme featuring this roach? I need it to show a friend

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>>32389182
Needs more A E S T H T I C.

>>32387987
his posture is perfect.
nobody in /k/ handle a pistol like him
what a waste

http://is.4chan.org/wsg/1482205984675.webm

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>>32389993
pay it forward, neighbor

>>32389395
not funny just autistic
fuck off to your containment board

>>32386901
it's like a Rorschach blob

>>32390054
its not a glock retard

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>>32390054
.>raph loren tie 900 bux
>ugu boos belt +$$$$
>paylezz shuz 27,99 moneez

>>32390113
do you honestly believe that
>I give a single red fuck
>I made this picture

>>32389402
best one

>>32390121
Some fucking retard on /fa/ made it, hense the bullshit prices and wrong gun, the SAR 9mm he used looks nothing like a Glock

>>32389584
I believe they still make the noise, but i'm sure you can get some that don't make the noise. with all the adrenaline going on, i'm sure no one paid any mind to shutter sound. if his plan was to kill the press/rack up a body count he would've used an IED

>>32390170
the whole point of that meme is to pick items that are absurdly expensive high-fashion items that are close to the source material

>>32390241
That's retarded.

>>32386148
Because turkboy fucking operates

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73b_1482230063

Giving credit to /x/ for seeing it but not /k/. Look at the cannon in the picture on the wall right behind Jabir Bond. Tell the /k/lass what that is.

>>32390389
The cannon used to bring down the walls of Constantinople?

>>32390389
I don't know, a really old fucking cannon?

>>32390450
>>32390505
Tsar Cannon.

>>32387807
>guy with gun
>guy shoots other guy with aforementioned gun
>bullets leave gun and go into other guy
>why does result of bullets look like that?

Only you could be so retarded that you think a thread specifically about weapons is not /k/ - weapons board related.

>>32386261
oh boy, you'll love this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm88MX2Gw4&bpctr=1482295390

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Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwPtP-KDNk

This video is more informative than anything you'll ever find on /k/. Why the fuck isn't it stickied now that I think of it.

And another link on duty ammo

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?99-Self-Defense-and-Duty-Loads-ballistics-info-by-DocGKR

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>>32387889
>make b8 gr8 again
>remove low energy

>>32390692
people on the board actively hate the super informative sticky post which is why it never gets updated.

>>32390054
Yes, thanks senpai

>>32386148
>Still trying.
I actually feel bad for you a little.

>>32390303
>implying the basis for most memes isn't retarded
you can't complain about the taste of shit when you're halfway through a bowl of dogturds

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>>32390668

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>>32389102
Superior wallpaper coming through

>>32391307
That one's actually worth saving.

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>>32386148

generally
>full metal jacket (ball) ammunition will pierce the skin, muscles, and bone. the round will cause the organs and tissue to move around and displace, thats called hydro static shock, this causes a temporary wound. the round then rip and tears everything in its path and then exists the body, the exit wound is typically bigger than the entrance wound. some rounds like the 5.56 and 5.45 tend to tumble so the wound path isnt as straight as like a high velocity .30 caliber bullet. typically the hydrostatic shock from a rifle is more devastating than a pistol bullet, and thus youre more likely to die from a rifle than a pistol.
>round enters, moves guts and shit out of the way very fast, round exits through a bigger exit wound, person dies from the shock and from massive blood loss. the down side of fmj ammunition is that the kinetic energy isnt fully dumped into the body. hollowpoint ammunition is designed to expand in tissue. the human body is mostly water and water cannot compress. so when a hollowpoint round enters the body, the fluids enter the cavity in the bullet which causes the lead and copper jacket to fold out. when the hollow point expands, it can slash and slice tissue and it also acts like a parachute and slows down the bullet, so all the kinetic energy is dumped into the target. hollowpoint ammunition greatly reduces the likelihood of over penetration, i.e the bullet going through the target.soft point ammunition works in a similar way, but its basically a fmj with the jacket taken off at the top so the lead deforms and slows down like a hollow point.

>>32391567
>and water cannot compress
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SCIENTIFIC ILLITERATES GET OUT

>>32390668

is that all just blood pouring from his nose and mouth or is it liquidized brain?

Anyone have the full video? All I've found are retarded meme versions.

>>32386946
As long as you don't have literal holes in the soles then why bother paying the money to repair them?

>>32391674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMV0GvrBhPk

Doesn't seem to be any HD versions yet for some reason.

>>32392040
this guy get's it

>>32390512
>implying the shitskins were the ones that made such a fine cannon

>>32386946
They work as intended. What the fuck is your point? Maybe the ambassador was not a snob trying to impress people with expensive shoes.

>>32391607
Just blood

when you get in a very high stress situation (getting shot for example) your blood vessels contract to try to keep all your blood in your body and re-rout it to the most vital organs like your heart and brain. it takes the blood away from your limbs, which is why your hands basically turn to clumsy flippers when youre in a very high stress situation. a lot of times if people get shot or cut on their limbs or areas away from their head and chest, they wont bleed at all for like 30 seconds to a minute, but afterwards they bleed like crazy once the vessels open back up. this is the same reason head wounds bleed so much. look up sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system reactions and what they can do to you body, its pretty fuckin wild

>>32389102
>>32389586
>>32391307
>>32391352
>literally glorifying islamist propaganda
There's a reason he "looks cool" you spineless dumbfuck traitor retards, guess who the audience is that you're giving a signal boost

>>32386148
Daily reminder this hit was a cordinated attack by the President of Turkey against Russia.

This guy is Turk spec ops

>>32393695
>DUDE IF YOUR NOT SAD A VATNIK DIED YOU ARE AN ISLAMIST SUPPORTER!

not how it works, vlad.

>>32393358
It goes back to Soviet times. Whenever the Russians would first show up in a new Soviet ally country the first thing people noticed was their wrinkled clothing, no deodorant and old shoes leading to thinking maybe they really are sub human.

>>32391307
>SUPERHOT: Kebabs & Slavs

>>32391607
Well, both. .357 FTW

>>32389172
>Dumb question time, what's the beef anyway? Why did this Turk cop waste the old Russian ambassador?

you can find transcripts, but the short version of it is, Russia's helping the Assad regime, Turkey has been helping the syrian rebels. Or more accurately, one of the syrian rebel groups, that place is a mess, with rebels, and ISIS - who are also fighting each other - Assad, pro-assad paramilitaries, plus influences from Iran, Hezbollah, the russians, the Kurds, and 101 other factions.

Assad's retaking Aleppo, mass slaughter of women and children, millions displaced, refugees everywhere. humanitarian disaster taking place right now.

Gunman blames the retaking of Aleppo on the Russians, therefore, killed the ambassador to make a statement.

>>32393742
you... you're trying to say there's more than two options in the world?
surely not?

Clearly you're a liberal transsexual hippy cuck gay feminazi sjw commie pinko fascist clinton shill, saying such nonsense.

Or something. Fuck knows what these idiots think you are for having more than two working brain cells.

>>32390199
>>32389584

When they invented using a computer in a camera to take a picture, they gave it the power to control the volume as well.

>They are gods.

>>32391574
Dude, you can't compress water. He's right on that part. Full of shit elsewhere, though.

Because It was a dupe

Yall still think the media doesn't lie to you

>>32394404
lol you're the commie here

>>32389584
>I wonder how that AP photographer feels right now.

"People screamed, hid behind columns and under tables and lay on the floor. I was afraid and confused, but found partial cover behind a wall and did my job: taking photographs."

interview here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38377164

>>32394565
well, you *can* compress it...

but not without serious fucking heavy industrial machinery. takes several thousand tonnes of pressure per square inch to compress water by about 1%

for all practical considerations, particularly when referring to liquids in a body, which is contained by soft, deformable fleshy structures, rather than industrial hardened steel, you cant compress water. (or other materials in their liquid states)

>>32394647
Fair enough, but there's a good chance nobody on /k/ has access to that serious a hydraulic press. Even if they did, 1% compression isn't much. Practically speaking, you can't compress water.

>>32394670
give water to hydro press russian youtube and let him have a go

>>32394600
> I was afraid and confused, but found partial cover behind a wall and did my job.
respect

>>32386935
>he doesn't wear high quality leather soled dress shoes

What's it like being so poor?

>>32387987
Is the ambassador not yet dead in this photo? I thought most all the time when someone dies their eyes are open and pupils fixed and dilated?

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>>32387889
That made my ass bleed

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>>32387987
Easily one of the most iconic photos ever taken, right up there with this one.

>>32397388
He died?

>>32389584
>Do modern DSLR's make a mirror snap noise anymore or
How is it possible to know SLRs use a mirror but not what the mirror does?

>>32397641
no

>>32397641
He walked off and went home.

Nobody is sure what happened after that. A lot of people went missing, and nobody can tell whether or whether not he was one of them, because nobody knows who he was.

>>32394670
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_anvil_cell
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Phase_diagram_of_water.svg/700px-Phase_diagram_of_water.svg.png

>>32391574
>>32394647

Dude you are full on autistic. In engineering there is virtually no application where you would need to consider the compressibility of water.

>>32389584
there was no reason for the press to be afraid. the assassin wanted the media to convey his message, killing them would have only obstructed/diluted it.

>>32397641
Not then.
He was later executed.

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NOW LISTEN CLOSELY

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/pol reporting in

>>32390303
1:03 checks his pistol

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>>32387987
No. Only visually aesthetic, aurally unaesthetic.

As in, menacingly loud!

And yet, on the whole, Kuntzman liked it, or rather loved it...
>So I, for one, am shedding no tears for Andrei Karlov. Frankly, I’m surprised his murder didn’t come months ago.
>Justice has been served.

>>32399084
What is that character from?

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>>32386148
>>32386226
>>32387758
>>32391567
>>32393673

These guys don't know what they are talking about.

Sure the caliber of the bullet matters, and what it penetrates will dictate how much blood there is and its consistency.

The critical point here is that the ambassador is wearing a shirt, a vest, and a coat, which means it'll take a bit of time for the blood to soak through. This picture was taken just a few seconds after the shooting.

>>32399610
You just discredited and regurgitated the exact same information that has already been put out. Go fuck yourself.

>>32388080
dat TD tho

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Was I the only one who thought of this scene from robocop 2 while watching the video?

>>32397848
Maybe he's a geologist?

Interesting video on gunshot injuries and mechnisms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwPtP-KDNk

>>32399610
you just said all those guys didn't know shit and then said exactly what they said but with less specific detail.

are you Australian?

>>32390054
He was a Turkish cop. There's no way he'd make that much money.

>>32399610
I tought there was no blood because Russians are heartless.

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>>32386901
t. fashionista

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>>32399610

How is your answer any different to >>32387758

You are retard.

>>32395532
The rubber soles on my Docs are just fine, thanks.

>>32395544
A corpse's eyes will be in whatever state they were left. A lot of people die with their eyes open, as it happens, but dying sleepers or the otherwise comatose just... never open their eyes again.

As to death: no, probably not. In the absence of a head shot, it probably took a few minutes for brain activity to go quiet, and this was immediately after. And you can be revived even after neural flatline with enough effort, so...

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>>32390054
>$900 tie
>$1200 trousers
>$1400 jacket
>$30 shoes

>>32394647
>>32394670
>>32397848
The compressibility of volatiles (including water) at high pressures and temperatures can affect the mechanical properties of different rocks on the Earth. Water compressibility also factors into subsurface density flow predictions on Enceladus and Europa.

>>32399654
That's important, he wouldn't want to injure someone accidentally.

>>32386901
SCUFFED

>>32389677
>being a cuck who still is falling for the linux/mac meme

>>32386148
Gee whiz, it's almost like it depends on where someone gets shot and what internal organs (i.e. heart, arteries, kidneys) are damaged.

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>>32386148
also no blood on the wall
the only explanation would be no exit wounds
maybe he used something like this (pic)

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>>32386148
here you have blood

>>32391607
brains don't just turn to liquid, it's an organ.

>>32403925
Is that a broken magazine next to him?

>>32403915
what is the ballistics of this?

>>32403946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHhJ3NEAF0

>>32389611
He's probably got OCD.

>>32403942
yes

>>32389445
This looks like something out of a dark comedy, like an ocd assassin.

>>32390668
What has the man felt like?
Light turns off or what?

Also all these camera photographs and operators are sick cunts because when you see someone kills himself not the first thing you would think of to focus camera on the face of man that's sick

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>>32389102
>>32389586
Damn, I thought I was being original an shieet

>>32407393
We are the hive.
Not a bee can be original.
(But my poetic skill with be and a bee is original.)

>>32399555
Lazy Town

>>32386148
Read Dr. Martin Fackler's research.