>promise self will only buy made in america guns >CZ drops

Looks bretty good. I like the angle on the front of the slide, it reminds me of the Beretta px4.

>>32384266
The Czech Republic is working to adopt their own version of the 2nd Amendment. Citizens are encouraged to own guns. These guys are 100% bro tier and should be supported.

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>>32384266
What? You can't have zero muzzle flip. You can't cheat physics

>>32384304
You can have zero muzzle flip. You can even have zero felt recoil with the proper engineering.

>>32384304
"Zero" muzzle flip is just an over enthusiastic way of saying "notably less muzzle flip than a Glock 19," in this case.

It has muzzle flip, but not much.

>>32384345
Are you fucking stupid? Science isn't magic, it can't dissipate force is you throw enough engineers at it.

>>32384364
Less muzzle flip than a glock 19 isn't really impressive though.

>>32384370
Moooooove that goalpost, anon. :^)

>>32384370
We're talking a LOT less. Coupled with a trigger that apparently blows the PPQ's out of the water.

From everything reported so far, it shoots like a wet dream.

>>32384299
Source? Sounds fucking amazing if so.

>>32384370
You're an idiot.

>>32384266
Kind of ugly desu

>>32384411
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2798062-Czechs-to-add-Right-to-Keep-and-Bear-Arms-to-Constitution

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/03/czech-president-urges-citizens-arm-fight-terrorists/amp/


Not the best sources, but major networks aren't gonna report this stuff. There's links to the native language articles in there if you want to translate them yourself.

>>32384266
>How the hell do they get it to have 0 muzzle flip?

A top-notch marketing department.

>>32384604
>CZ
>top notch marketing
Yeeeeaaaaaah ok

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Until it passes the McMudd™ test I'm unconvinced.

>>32384686
>look I posted it again

>>32384266
>promise self will only buy made in america guns
Why? There's so much good stuff out there, why restrict yourself?

>>32384686
Military "I worked in advertising" Arms Channel

>>32384686
As memetastic as MAC's tests are, I'm curious to see how the P10 handles the abuse.

>>32384266
Did you buy an XD? If you did, springfield pulled a fast one on you and you bought a Croat gun.

>>32384266
>promise self will only buy made in america guns
y tho

>>32384266
FNS feel like shit
Literally the only gun blockier than a glock

>>32384686
He is a joke

>>32384703
>>32384710
>>32387148
assmad vp9 faggots detected

guns are the last thing you should buy american-made. American pistols are all trash, all of them. Rifles are great, but Sig, Glock, Cz, H&K, and FN can do anything American companies can, but better and for the same cost.

>>32384604
Basically this. Give "exclusive" thoroughly checked and quality controlled guns to people that have already expressed support for your brand, make it a decent and familiar product with a novel feature that intrigues the customer without scaring them away.

Print moneyl

>>32387286
Also P226 fanboys btfo

>>32384266
There are no good handguns made by American companies.

>>32387908
Very few good rifles that aren't an ar15 made by American companies too

>>32387908
there are no good guns made by american companies at all

>>32387332

Sigs, glocks, and FN pistols are american made these days.

Their striker fired guns are also basically identical in performance to Ruger and S&W, in the non-meme world i mean.

>>32384462
Why do all modern plastic guns look like dog shit? If classics can look good and shoot well why wouldn't they take styling from them?

>>32384266
If cz manged to make the p-10 as good as they say, I'll buy one for CC.

Beating a Glock isn't very hard so I guess it's possible

CZ P10 C

Just a terrible name/designation. Wish it wasn't rollmarked on the slide.

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>>32387937

>>32384396
That would have to be a lot of blow,
'cause I love my PPQ trigger.

>>32387332
you're trash

>>32387908
you're no good

>>32384686
I bought a Sig Legion just to spite him after he posted that video.

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>>32384304
Technically speaking, if the bore axis is completely perpendicular to the center of mass on your wrist, there is no moment generated and thus zero "muzzle flip"

>>32384370
I DONT THINK YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ANON. WWIII IS STARTING. AMERICA IS LITERALLY LOADING ENGINEERS INTO A GUN TO FIRE THEM AT RUSSIA. FUCK YOUR PHYSICS. IF WE THROW ENOUGH ENGINEERS AT ANYTHING IT WILL WORK. EVEN IF ITS JUST CRUSHING AN ENTIRE NATION UNDER THE CORPSES OF ENGINEERS WE FIRED OUT OF A GUN.

>>32388289
>Beating a Glock isn't very hard so I guess it's possible
Which is why it's still the metric against which every single other pistol is measured against, right? Get real, if you don't like them you don't like them, don't spew shit from your mouth like a liberal

>>32387332
Most of the firearms sold in the US are made in the US. Even the ones made by foreign subsidiaries.

>>32387908
Ruger American pistol?

>>32389654
>THE CORPSES OF ENGINEERS WE FIRED OUT OF A GUN.

MLRS with Pajeet warheads when?

>>32389686
I'm not that guy, but they just seem blatantly average. Nothing...special, about a glock.

Nothing's wrong with it, but nothing's really "right" with them either. It's a phenomenal defense pistol no doubt. Just not an amazing target practice pistol I guess

>>32389859
That's exactly accurate. They aren't meant to be target pistols though, so to grade them as such is unfair. They are designed to be a tool that is boringly reliable and practical. Nothing more, and nothing less.

>>32389859
What, does the gun need to suck your dick or take your kids to work to be above average? FFS it's extremely reliable, decently cheap, widely available and with a terrific aftermarket and smithing industry. If your glock doesn't do what you want that's your own damn fault, it can do damn near anything with the right setup

>>32384266
i mean i like cz and all but i wish they would've made the slide ride inside the frame, basically a striker sp01

>>32389892
I'm not saying it doesn't do what I want. I just find it very difficult to "fall in love" with the thing.
I kinda have this issue with every polymer little striker fired toy though. It's just my personal preference honestly
>$500 glock is a better gun
>$250 slavic crap based on a 100 year old design(zastava) is better for your soul

>>32389922
Out of curiosity, why?

>>32389954
lower bore axis, and it would've made a special little snow flake compare to every other polymer 9 out there

>>32389954
Sleeker design, lower bore axis, less top heavy(a lot of polymers have this issue)

>>32389984
>>32389988
And wider

>>32389686
Glocks are average in every aspect.
They are only compared to everything because they are the most common firearm.

It's not hard to beat a Glock because Glocks are medocore

>>32389892
>take your kids to work

>>32390005
the slide just recesses into the frame instead of having rails on the inside and have the same width

>>32390066

china recently allowed browsing of 4chan

>>32390139
Higher class people in china have access to the internet without the heavy filters.

I had a foreign exchange student that was the daughter of some high up military family.
She didn't have any blocks at all.

You haven't noticed the heavy China shill posters I've there past year?

>>32390139
Top kek

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>>32384827
FNS9C checking in.

Wtf are you talking about m8?

>>32388553
It's the regular naming scheme they've been using. P-09 was the last one, P-10 comes next.

That said, I dunno why they added a C and not have it be separate models like P-07 and P-09.

Wow another horrendously ugly pistol from cz :^)

>Czech designers

>>32389859
>>32390048

They aren't special because now everyone is trying to push their own striker fired polymer gun whereas Glock has already done that and dominated the market about 30 years.

With a design so old it should not be difficult to develop a better gun. However it doesn't matter as no gun will dethrone Glocks and this can be seen by the latest FBI contract being awarded to Glock despite the requirements seem to be written specifically for the Sig p320. The glock is simple to use and maintain, aftermarket and spare parts cheap and widely available, and finally Glock will offer discounts and send representatives everywhere for training and support of their products.

>>32384686
>34¢ has been deposited in your account.

>>32390931
>With a design so old it should not be difficult to develop a better gun.

Gun design in general peaked a long time ago.

There are very few companies that are actually innovating and they have basically tiny and irrelevant market shares.

If it was so easy to do something new, someone would have awhile ago. That's why glocks and their clones are all pretty boring guns, at least to gun enthusiasts.

For the average gun owner, sure just buy the g19 or p320 or whatever. Best possible choice. Literally the state of the art. But for collectors and the enthusiasts on /k/, there are so many great experiences to have out there, that utilitarian guns become dull and uninteresting, which they should be.

>>32390931
Glock didn't Invent striker pistols.

It just happens to be a Big seller so everyone is making one.

The market is moving to polymer striker so that's what everyone is making.

It sucks because no one is innovating, it's all ar15 mods and Glocks.

>>32384827
Glock feels like a bar of soap, puny frame rails, shitty stock sights do they have polymer guide rods still?

You pay 500 for a Glock platform, then you have to buy +100 dollar sights then 100+ dollar trigger kit. You are in HK territory.

Fns has better ergo, better sights and a better trigger out if the box. Large metal frame rails, metal guide rods and a better trigger.

Low energy bait.

>>32389593
False
If only your wrist lost its 360 degree field of motion

>>32387908
> revolvers don't exist.
> or euro revolvers arnt trash.

MAC said this thing has the best trigger out of any SF guns.

>>32384266
>9mm
Nope

>>32392016
inb4 some idiot thinks Manuhrins and Korths are representative of all euro revolvers

>>32392067
MAC also got flown out to the Czech Republic to try shooting it at a range of CZ's choice with CZ's ammo of choice with supplied pistols of CZ's choice. After agreeing to any terms and conditions laid out by CZ. His opinion is no better than marketing staff until it hits retail.

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>>32392269
Mac is kinda a CZ shill.
Makes me cringe a little when he mentions things like "Cz have a good attention to detail"
As a cz owner I can say that's not true.

Other reviews said the trigger was far better than a Glock however.

>>32390066
fine
*your wife's kids

>>32384411
its true. they are trying to make a constituiton amednment guaranteeing right to own guns

>gun has no muzzle flip
>gun has a better trigger than a PPQ

Let me guess, it also cures cancer as well?

>>32384266
They don't. Watch videos of it being shot. See muzzle flip. Go back to buying what you were going to buy.

>>32392408
>Other reviews said the trigger was far better than a Glock however.
Don't pretend it's an achievement, Glock literally has the worst trigger of any guns I ever shot.

Is this a replacement for the P09 or are they meant to both run. I like the P09 better

Czechs are bros

Any CZ bros want to comment on the CZ p07 and p09 durability? Do any major parts break and need replacing before 5,000-10,000 rounds through the gun besides the recoil spring? How well do the finishes hold up on these guns?

I just want to get a sense of CZ's quality now before seriously looking at the P 10.

>>32395747
My local range changes their hammer and recoil springs in their CZ p-07 and p-09 at 3,000 rounds.

I haven't heard much of anything about the p-07 long term.
That's a better question for the Cz forum.

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>>32391541
Let me draw it out for you

>>32398056
You're forgetting the natural force of gravity
Which you will also have to be perpendicular with to have "0" muzzle flip

>>32384686
>trusting the shill for jews and roaches

>>32398092
But the force of gravity your wrist is already accounting for, hence why your sights don't constantly move downwards when you're aiming...It's the force impulse that generates the flip.

Also another reason why if in full automatic mode, it's sort of a crude way to say that the muzzle flip is "reduced" because the felt force is more constant and therefore your body is constantly accounting for it.

>>32389593
>>32398056
>>32398146

When you fire an actual gun come back to us.

>>32398240
Nigga, what I'm saying is that gravity is canceled out.
All guns have muzzle flip. but theoretically, it is possible to have zero muzzle flip implying the force of the bullet is completely perpendicular to the..blah I'm done explaing

>>32390481
Same here. I really like mine

so should I get this or a P320 compact