Tell me, why do people put suppressors 5.56 rifles? 5.56 is perhaps

>5.56 is perhaps the shittiest cartridge to suppress in terms of noise
what makes you say that?

Same reason they use suppressors on any gun, to conceal the muzzle report.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/11/22/corps-put-silencers-whole-infantry-battalion.html

>"What we've found so far is it revolutionizes the way we fight," Love told Military.com. "It used to be a squad would be dispersed out over maybe 100 yards, so the squad leader couldn't really communicate with the members at the far end because of all the noise of the weapons. Now they can actually just communicate, and be able to command and control and effectively direct those fires."

>"It increases their ability to command and control, to coordinate with each other," Wade told Military.com. "They shoot better, because they can focus more, and they get more discipline with their fire." The noise of gunfire can create an artificial stimulus that gives the illusion of effectiveness, he said. When it's taken away, he explained, Marines pay more attention to their shooting and its effect on target.

>>32345843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlPOQlYZ0hI

it still lets a shitton of noise + it doesn't muffle the supersonic crack

>>32345827
>Tell me, why do people put suppressors 5.56 rifles?
Because 5.56 is supersonic.

Because they are loud.

>>32345897
>The noise of gunfire can create an artificial stimulus that gives the illusion of effectiveness
Shit man, i figured that out from playing Counterstrike

>>32345827
Because it stops you showing up on the minimap

>>32345827
>what is subsonic

>>32345971
memeshit

>>32345971
>subsonic
>out of a 5.56

>>32345918
The same could be said for most rifle calibers, hardly an indictment of 5.56. You know AK suppressors only knock off about 15 DB, right?

it doesnt destroy your ear drums with every shot

>>32345971
Literally less powerful than a .32.

>>32345989
>He doesn't know subsonic 5.56 exists
kys yourself newfag

Whats .308/7.62 NATO sound like suppressed?

Is it practical, or feasible to suppress a machine gun?

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>>32345897
Suppressed rifles for everyone soon.

>>32345989
That's called 22LR

>>32346160
And 22LR still has to be loaded down to get subsonic ammo.

>>32346188

Loaded down from what?

If you buy subsonic .22lr that is what the load is.

If you buy supersonic .22lr that is what the load is.

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>>32346188
if the barrel is short it enough it can be subsonic
>
also if the barrel is ported and integrally suppressed

>>32346248

What?

If a barrel is suppressed a commercial .22lr subsonic could become supersonic?

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>>32345827
it's fun

>>32346277
No, he means the other way around. Some integral suppressor systems use ports on the barrel within the suppressor to bleed off extra gas and lower the velocity of the bullet.

>>32345994
suppressed AKs in both 762 and 545 sound alot quieter than suppressed 556

>>32346341
no, most rifles sound the same with supersonic ammo

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>>32346299
Thats what I meant.

>>32345827
It has less to do with suppressing the gunshot andmore to do with masking its noise, thus making it harder to spot the shooter.

>>32345971
if you're gonna do subsonic out of a 5.56, just swap the barrel and use 300memeout

>>32346348
Even on youtube they sound very different, let alone real life, retarded tripfug.

You can still hear the supersonic crack on Suppressed ars, but you can't hear it in suppressed aks. (Or a really really quiet crack)

>>32346479
>retarded tripfug.
>still hear the supersonic crack
> but you can't hear it in suppressed aks
too sad

>>32346489
>can't even check a couple of youtube videos
>replies with meme arrows

>>32346515
2 seconds on google and i also heard them in real life

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1069

>>32346479
>Even on youtube they sound very different
Yes, guns with different calibers and actions sound different, especially when recorded with a shitty iPod microphone. How insightful.
>You can still hear the supersonic crack on Suppressed ars, but you can't hear it in suppressed aks.
Literally the opposite of reality unless you're using some kind of custom gas block.

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>>32345968

>>32345843
>what makes you say that?
are you retarded?

Supersonic rounds are bad for suppression


OP they do it because they're retarded.

>>32346526
Listen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlPOQlYZ0hI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYIwY6lhno8

The crack is alot quieter on the ak

>>32346479
>(Or a really really quiet crack)
The crack will be the same sound. It's the bullet breaking the sound barrier. Will be pretty much the same DB of report every shot if its supersonic.

>>32346591
oh, it's b8

>>32346591
... anon you have no idea the different cameras and microphones used between these two videos...
You are really bad arguing your point if you're even doing that.
>>32346479
>you cant hear the supersonic crack on the ak
But you can.. that's what supersonic means...

>>32346612
>not an argument

>>32346625
There is no argument for him to respond to anon..

>>32346625
alarger diameter = more gas escaping = more noise

Fuck off retard. No camera captures sound accurately especially some faggot on a YT video.

Because you're taking something really, really, really loud and making it just really loud
>only reduces 15db
The decibel scale is logmarithic. Its not a constant scale. That rifle without a suppressor is FIFTEEN TIMES louder.

>>32345994
>only 15DB
Sounds shitty until you realize decibels are a logarithmic unit.

Why do people put mufflers on cars? I can still hear the engine, so why even bother?

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>>32345827
Why do people bother putting mufflers on their f150s instead of just buying priuses to mitigate sound?

>>32346958
its more like 1.5 times louder, 5 times more powerful

Harm reduction, duh. With advanced muzzle brakes we have now you can effectively make an Assault Battle Rifle, but we don't do it because the muzzle blast is fucking horrendous.

There's also a tactical advantage of reducing muzzle flash to nothing and making it more difficult to discern exactly where the noise came from.

>>32346585
You do it so you can communicate while you fight and shoot, asshole.

>>32345827
So, what's wrong with it?
99% of the world aren't NRA trump voting troglodytes who spends 10 hours a day shooting targets (who they fantasize as being minorities), so you'll have to explain to us what's wrong with it.

I bet it's something as this being a 6.23472 upm caliber AK bullet model having the wrong lenght by 0.1 of an inch or something, you fucks spend 10 hours a day memorizing bullet and weapons names and then have the gall to say learning a few genders is complicated

Ugh

>>32346958

15 dB equates to nearly 32 times the volume, actually.

>>32347249

>genders
>a few

but that's not how it works

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>>32347249

For most tactical purposes shooting supersonics through a suppressor is more beneficial than shooting subsonics.

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>>32347249
>Ugh

>>32347274
Former audio engineering student, can confirm

>>32347249
Leave it to /k/ to respond like dopes to this obvious joke post

>>32345827
>5.56 is perhaps the shittiest cartridge to suppress in terms of noise, so why even bother?
I have never shot an AR, never shot 5.56, never shot a gun, never enlisted, never served overseas, never been in a fight, never been shot at, never tried to communicate with adrenaline: the post

>>32346147
I would make sex to that raifu

I don't want a fucking suppressor for my AR because I think it will make my rifle "quiet".

I want one because it will DEFINITELY make it QUIETER than it is. Less noise is preferable to more noise.

Currently, I make do with a flash suppressor because less flash is better than no flash, and I don't want to go through the ATF bullshit of buying a sound suppressor.

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>>32346479
>thinks youtube gives an accurate representation of firearms sound
>calls other people retarded
toppest kek

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I suppose it would make sense to put one on as an advanced muzzlebrake.

however it heating up might cause some limitations. How many rounds until they're fucking piping hot anywho?

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>>32345827
Because shoot a 10.3 barrel without one indoors is fucking horrible

>>32346056
>tiny bullet
>Still gets shit done because it is fast
>then some idiot takes away the fast

>>32345827
To suppress sound you fucking autistic moron. I'm sure you have much more combat experience than SF units around the world, idiot.

>>32348171
is that a kneemortar?

>>32347249
>shooting targets (who they fantasize as being minorities)
Well wtf else am I supposed to train on? Train as you fight faggot

>>32348313
Lol.

>>32348275
Fireworks mortar tube.
I hope you find this video educational as well as entertaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yZg27D5zU

>>32345827
because fuck thats loud is better than deaf

>>32346046

Literally less intelligent than a sack of shit.

>>32346341
Another dumber than a sack of shit poster.
Go to bed kids.

>>32345827

16" .223 is loud as fuck

Your 22"+ varmint rifle won't be too bad outdoors

>>32347249
fucking spicy 10/10

>>32346147
How did it take so long?

Is it cause our military is cheap ass unless they're funding the navy or chairforce?

>>32351526
no, it's because cans get too hot too fast.

do suppressors effect muzzle velocity

>>32351616
short answer, no.

>>32351616
They have the potential to increase it a very small amount, like 20-30 fps in a rifle, but basically it has no effect.

If I get a suppressor for my AR will I still need earpro?

>>32351659
yes

>>32351670
then why bother, really?

>>32351701
it's cool and you can get away with a few rounds with no damage.

but it's mostly just fun.

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whatever floats your boat

>>32351701
Cumulative noise reduction.

>>32351720
>you can get away with a few rounds with no damage
That's not how hearing loss works. There will still be damage, just not as much.

>>32351856
right, but i meant immediate. if i fire one unsupressed round of 5.56, it hurts but i can shot 5 or 6 suppressed and it doesn't hurt or cause problems right there.

you are 100% right that it does damage hearing.

>>32346056
They don't cycle faggot.

>>32346056
found the nogunz

lurk more newfag

>>32345827
It's not AS quiet as some rounds but its still enough of a reduction in sound to be worthwhile

Everyone talking about subsonic/supersonic. Anyone who has ever even pulled pits knows that rounds going overhead literally just sounds like someone cracking a whip next to your ear and you still have no clue where it came from.

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>>32345827
let post a superior suppressor platform

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>>32345971
>subsonic 5.56