Hey /kommandos/, /polack/ here. I have a question for you all:

>>32332081
I'd love to buy whatever you're on.

for 50 bucks i'd buy anything that goes pew pew

>>32332113

I'll take that as a "this is too good to be true, but yes I would."

I will be posting videos of the prototype when it's completed. You'll see.

It's going to be a Defdist hodown

>>32332081
>homemade guns
>/pol/
>gun under 50 burgers
Doesn't sound suspicious at all.

>>32332144
>>>
>Pepe Liberator Multi-caliber 12/15/16(Thu)00:47:25 No.32

Oh man, this I gotta' see.

You would lose money paying someone hourly to assemble it.

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>>32332139

That's good to know. I will be making one for myself and to show /k/, and /pol/. It will literally be a reinvention of the wheel if I don't mind saying so. Just gauging interest at this point.

Caliber thoughts? I was originally going to go 12ga but I don't know a lot about the smallest caliber you can reasonably operate with.

Maybe you guys could help me with that. I don't know tactics, and the breech / barrel on this thing won't be able to shoot much more than a pistol caliber.

>>32332161

> This entire post

How do you fuck up that bad? There's being new, then there's being retarded

>all dem features
>$50

What is this bizarro 1930's with modern tech?

The rifle would probably cost $50 in mats, couple hundred in labor, then how ever much for marketing and licensing.

Approx value for what you claim, assuming it is well made and not a LelRAS47 or KekC39v2 tier item, at least $1500 maybe more if a profit is intended to help increase production load.

But for $50 I'll buy what ever psychotropic laced grass you have been smoking to think this is even possible.

>>32332173

He's from /pol/, so he's probably banking on slavery being reinstated

>>32332081
>>Under $50
Yes. Good luck producing anything that isnt a pipe shotgun for $50

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>>32332175
I would like to see rifle cartridge but 12 ga would be easiest

>>32332175
>won't be able to shoot much more than a pistol caliber.
There's a decent market for carbines chambered in 9mm Luger.

>>32332175

>pistol calibre
>12 gauge
Wut

Also, chances are that you're 14, and completely incapable of doing any of this. You also probably don't know the first thing about business if you're selling a gun for $50.

Ps. The more moving parts it has, the more likely it is to fuck up

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I saw that gun at a gunshow.

>>32332189
Yea, for $50 I could make 4-5 pipe shotguns. But it think at that point if the ATF found out I would be forced to apply for a FFL or else prison.

You know on the basis of assumed intent to sell and or distribute firearms.

>>32332214
>not having at least 4-5 shotguns in your personal /k/ollection
noguns detected

>>32332175
9mm or .22 would be the way to go, nobody else believes in you but I do anon, god speed

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>>32332156
Ok, ok, it could cost a few more than $50 clams, but I can ab-so-fucking-tively promise it will be under 100$, not including any FFL costs you will incur / fees not associated with me. If I had bulk interest it would be closer to $50 tbqh.

>>32332161

Go on...

The multi-caliber part of it will include being able to make a quick barrel swap, provided the calibers are similarish. Barrels will be included. Need more input on small effective calibers for "defense" purposes.

>>32332173

I will be able to make as many as 10 a day in batches. All parts are local hadware store parts but this is *far* from a zip-gun, my friend. It's not the materials that make a great weapon, it's the mind.

>>32332177

I'm sure you are a regular, you will see the prototype and eat crow. Mark my words.

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>>32332226
>noguns
>for not having 4 identical slam fire pipe guns

Yea ok kid. Post your guns.

>>32332226
why the fuck would you need 4-5 shotguns, i'd rather invest my money into something different

>>32332242
Try shooting a rifle round out of galvanized steel pipe and prepare to get shrapnel in your face. Not to mention you legally need to rifle the barrel if you're not making a shotgun.

>>32332247
lmao @ the Walmart red-dot on the AR-15 and 3x9 scope on a 22lr.

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>>32332186

>$50 in mats
Try around half.

> couple hundred in labor

Labor is my labor. Will be able to complete 10 in a work day.

> marketing and licensing.

Posting on K...


"But for $50 I'll buy what ever psychotropic laced grass you have been smoking to think this is even possible."

Get ready to apologize.

"profit is intended "

Key word intention. I never said I was doing this to make a lot of money.


>>32332187

>Implying /k/ and /pol/ don't have a shitload of crosstraffic. I know about our little love affair about the brown people island.

>>32332189

It's based on that technology, but it's on so, so very many steroids. You will love it.

>>32332199

That's what I was thinking but I want it to be able to be used.

>>32332201


Not for under 100$ there isn't.


>>32332208

>Also, chances are that you're 14, and completely incapable of doing any of this. You also probably don't know the first thing about business if you're selling a gun for $50.
>Ps. The more moving parts it has, the more likely it is to fuck up

Your word selection tells me that you are younger than I am.


>>32332211

Nice.

>>32332214

Perfectly legal, do you not know how to read I said legal and licensed? You are allowed to produce your own firearms.

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>>32332267
So what I'm a poorfag, still don't see your guns.

>>32332254
there are people that own multiple handguns or ar/ak variants in the same calibers. i'm certain someone has the desire to own 4-5 shotguns

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>>32332228

Thanks, anon. You will get the first one. I don't know how but you will.

>>32332263

Did you not read the post? I specifically said low CUP for that reason.

Again, I will be making sure everything is to the letter, if that is the case then I will make sure it meets the requirements. Although I've never heard anything about that and it very well may be a shotgun when I choose a caliber.

>>32332267

Top kek

>>32332275
Yea you can make all the guns you want without papers, but selling them is going to require a FFL which isn't cheap and will be added overhead to keep the operation going.

>post AR180

That is a meme gun. Shit disassembly, more small parts than an AR15, "proprietary" magazine, still requires a mill for some parts like the bolt, etc etc.

Wonder why it wasn't a long standing service weapon? Give you a hint: it's shit

>>32332247
Hey is that synth pump action a khan a-tac shotty? Or a cobra something or rather? they go by many names but are still the same turkish made shotty

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>>32332247
You called my shit, I do only have one shotgun (for now). Refurbishing cheap old single shot shotguns is on my hobby bucket list, though.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20030115/federal-firearms-licenses

Here's how much an FFL costs. This is just the fee to the ATF, not everything you need to get for regulations and stuff. I'm thinking OP might have trouble with the first requirement.

>>32332275
>Not for under 100$ there isn't.
Not until your product hito the market. You're doing the /K/ube's work, friendo, keep on keepin' on.

>>32332339
Some Charles Daly Turk made auto shotty.

>>32332341
Ive got a mid 60s winchester cooey single shot lol. Firing pin shot out of it and was lost during a dry fire haha

>inb4 /pol/ rechambers 100 mosins to .38 special

>>32332081
I'm waiting.

>>32332201

Actually mis-understood what you meant, my bad. Thanks for the information.

>>32332308

I've actually looked into 07 and 01 FFL's, and that's actually pretty fucking inexpensive, it's the fucking ITAR fees that are 2.5K/yr

Yes, it would be proprietary besides the mags, I would like it to take a glock mag

That design requires a mill for the bolt. Mine does not. Holes and slots, you can work hard or smart. Trust me, I will show it to you all soon. You will piss your pants when you see the FCG...yet it works fine. On, and on.


"Wonder why it wasn't a long standing service weapon?"

>Mfw when /kommandokorps/ service weapon is a meme tier garage rifle
>Everyone bitches about it
>Everyone reminisces about it
>Good times

>>32332242
Wait, you're getting all the parts from a hardware store? You better not be making a barrel out of pipe. Just because people have made zip guns with them doesn't mean they'll last the thousands of rounds a commercial gun is expected to.

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>>32332081
If it took STANAGs and could do .223 Wylde I'd be quite interested to see such a weapon.

What I'm interested in is the action of this weapon, and if I can get cross compatibility with other weapons parts. Is it modular? Is it easy to break down and clean? How accurate will this weapon be? Is it semi auto?

I'm willing to believe you that you can hit your price point but my question is can you do so after dealing with the ATF.

NATO cartridges are preferred, pistol carbine is also acceptable.

>>32332081
I would buy at least one of these. I would like to know what your companies logo would be? And would said logo be on the gun if it's le Pepe

>>32332352
Does it go alright? Theyre over here in nz new for about $500 a pop. I wouldnt mind a cheap semi-tacticool blaster for fun times haha

>>32332344

Did you not read the article you just posted? It was 150$ for the FFL. ITAR is the biggest cost, I might try to crowdfund it on the promise that your minimum donation will absolutely get you one in a reasonable amount of time.

>>32332351

Thanks man, you seem like you get it. My goal in this is to get as many good guns out to as many people as I can for as cheaply as I can. I'm literally just trying to dispense freedom, I don't really need a reason better than that. -Murcuh.

>>32332372

I laughed out loud

>>32332374

Prototype vid will be up soon.

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>>32332081
>>32332175
>>32332242
>ingenious design
>reinvent the wheel
>lolwatcaliber need input because I don't know anything
>pipe shotgun on steroids

It would be neat to imagine if you weren't so blatantly full of shit. I mean fucking christ, kiddo.

>>32332412
>Did you not read the article you just posted?
Why would I not have? I thought people would be interested to see the costs for FFLs since it pertains to the topic. Are you sure you meet the 21 or over requirement?

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>mfw op promises great things at little cost
>mfw it is just like "no mans sky"
>5 yrs later "it's relly guna haben guiz, it will be grate!"

>>32332081
>This is not a joke or LARP post

Then you are an idiot.

>>32332409
It's decent, got mine for $250 in Jew York of all places.

>>32332414
I think OPS is just Royal Nonesuch and wants to sell these for profit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2m7cnBOakI

>>32332387

"Barrel from a pipe"

Ehhhh, it's not schedule 40 "black pipe," but it is pipe could could technically order from a hardware store, that has been re-enforced at the breech to prevent catastrophic fuckery.

>>32332396

Oh, do go on about this .223 Wylde? I would be perfectly fine with making it take STANAGS if you could find me a cartridge with a low enough pressure profile. This is the info I'm looking for, thank you.

>>32332407

Def open to suggestions, if there is a preferred /k/ logo with pepe on it, send it my way. Or one that was modified, etc.

I would probably stamp: "Pepe Le'meme Liberation Tech, LLC" on the receiver, and make a hot brand for the stock's cartoon / picture, if you see what I mean.

>>32332448
Oy vey! Goddamn even the anti guns parts of the us are way cheaper than new zealand haha

>>32332470
This was also like 2 1/2 -3 yrs ago. If you wanna shoot low brass through it, be prepared to dump around 200 shells to work the action in so it cycles properly. High brass I never had an issue, it was just the first few hundred birdshot that would act funny now and again.

>>32332275
>>implying our boards don't have a shit load of crosstraffic. I know about our little love affair about the brown people island.

Yeah I don't know how many of us actually went to your threads to discuss that on /pol/, but a lot of people here just shit on the idea.

Also I have no idea how intend to pull this meme rifle off, but I guess I'd like to see you try.

>>32332467
.223 Wylde is a chambering that will allow the firearm to fire either 5.56NATO or .223 Remington. The lower of the two is Remington, as it fires a lighter projectile with less powder.

>>32332467
.223 Wylde just means the chamber supports both .223 Remington and 5.56 nato.

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>>32332081
>hey guys I'm going to make the cheapest best semi auto rifle in existence I have the napkins to prove it!

the irony that the liberator cost almost as much as a sten to manufacture and that none were ever deployed

the cast aluminum CIA "deer gun" wasn't much better, but at least had a rifled barrel.

your amazing new idea was thought of decades ago with the sterling .308 full auto open bolt battle rifle. this was back before england was totally cucked and still considered arming their populace.

Too bad open bolt tube guns R illegal

cheapest domestic centerfire caliber rifle is the AR15 bub. you can slap one together for $450 and come insurrection or nork paratroopers you can slap a bottleopener in one as long as you've got a low shelf and m16 bcg

>>32332414

"Anon doubts the ability of the .223 Wylde Pepe Liberator? SAD!" - OP

I don't mean to toot my own horn here, but Avtomat kalashnikova is going to pour me a drink when I show it to you guys. Will you send a sharpie pic when you are wrong? Will you cry that Putin rigged the elections?

>>32332432

Ok, that was a pretty good zinger. Fair enough.

>>32332435

I have the best designs, my designs..I know more than the manufacturers do, believe me.

In all seriousness I'm glad there are people that want this, I will redouble my efforts to show you all very soon.

>>32332440

You + Crow = meal.

>>32332455

I fucking HATE that guy. Quintessential 15 year old retard who had a video trend and now pretends to "make," guns that don't fire correctly, are simply remakes of the same gun, on and on and on. Fuck. Seriously.

>>32332467
I'm not artistic enough to make a picture it should definitely be a Pepe holding a gun maybe??

>>32332524
Isn't he copyrighted or something?

>>32332379
>pistol caliber
why bother when you can buy an equally garbage as your "rifle" ring of fire niggergat for the purpose of popping some somallian UN blue helmet for his shit FAL. you can get a 22, 25, 32, or 380 lorcin for $50 at a pawn shop and it will go bang more reliably than whatever vaporware napkin sketch you've got going.

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>>32332499

Good, that's all the faith I needed. I will return in a few weeks time after this thread dies to produce my Phoenix for you all to behold.

>>32332506
>>32332508

Yeah guys, unless it's a .223 case with a pistol type load, or a really slow .300 blk, etc, we are just going to have to go with some type of pistol cartridge. I know you all would be excited but it's simply too volatile, sorry.

>>32332509

Loved the post, but....I'm sorry, are you implying that everyone and their mother wouldn't buy pic related if they could? I would have a plastic stock, ACOG, rails, etc on that bitch yesterday. Not a good argument.

"Too bad open bolt tube guns R illegal"

You can say that again, really sucks the dick.

"cheapest domestic centerfire caliber rifle is the AR15 bub. you can slap one together for $450"

Until I show you this, sure.

>>32332514
>Avtomat kalashnikova
>pouring you a drink

So a "AutoRifle Kalashnikov" is going to pour you a drink...

That is the name of the rifle ya dunce, you are bad at name dropping. Mikial Kalashnikov is dead, he was the designer. Avtomat is a Russian military designation.

That's like saying Armalite Rifle will pour me a drink. Eugene Stoner invented it, Armalite is the name.

>>32332529
Yeah he was created by Matt Furie. He's usually cool with letting people make shirts and stuff of Pepe, but I doubt he'd let someone make him their logo.

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>>32332514
you don't know what .223 wylde is
>protip: it isn't a caliber

>>32332550
>good, that's all the faith I needed

I was being sarcastic my man. In my opinion, you're hyping this up to be way more impressive than its actually going to be.

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>>32332550
>wildcat proprietary caliber
>common mags
you remind me of me when I was a starry eyed second year engineering student shitposting on /k/ about making over complicated break barrel weapons. The difference is I had 3D models and just got bored, not empty promises and retardation.

>>32332514
>I don't mean to toot my own horn here, but Avtomat kalashnikova is going to pour me a drink when I show it to you guys.
Bullshit.
Do you have any formal engineering education or any practical gunsmithing experience?
Dismissing the AK is a sign of cluelessness.

>>32332524

Ok cool, yeah, if you see anything that might go well with that, save it and post to the prototype thread; it will get used. Like I said I'm sure there are some rare /k/ pepes.

>>32332529

Interested to know how / if, he has been recreated so many times.

>>32332542

>vaporware napkin sketch

My fucking sides. Orbit.


You aren't getting the theme here, friend. I'm producing something that will be literally something an 18 year old NEET can afford, is a rifle, with some modern amenities. Something that could actually be used as a battle rifle assuming you aren't using it to bash skulls and drag it through the swamp, etc.

Are there any /kommandos/ here who will not be entertained if we convert an absolute shit ton of /noguns/ for 100 US-Petrodollars? Isn't that the point dude?

>>32332550
Consider 45ACP or 9x19 Para as your cartridge then. Pistol carbines are great for home defense or even vehicle defense. Just use bananaglockazines or Jewgun™ Jewmags® or similarly available magazines

>>32332601
post napkin then

>>32332624
>make a hipoint carbine
>only shittier

>>32332601
>are there any /kommandos/ here who will not be entertained

I won't. For give me for being skeptical of a man promising me the moon on a Filipino fly fishing board.

>>32332551

No shit dude, I know we don't have flags here but in English you can refer to proper nouns in that manner. If I saved another company a lot of money it wouldn't be improper in casual conversation to say, "Oh man, Stuffco is going to pour me a drink."

Relax dude.


>>32332554

Yeah, never heard of it. It sounded like another cartridge configuration, much like the other 2ish currently available.

>>32332567

That's fine. You will see it, you might like it, and whether or not you admit that to me or shit talk talk it is entirely up to you.

>>32332589

In another post I referenced that any caliber changes would be in compatible pairings. Obviously there is a point that you run into more trouble than it's worth.

Is that how they always made guns? In Autodesk at the schools mainframe compiler? Wow, that's crazy, I'll remember that when I post the video of my napkin gun working well.

>>32332596

I didn't know that was such a sensitive topic around here. Lighten up, eh buddy? It's a joke, guy?

>>32332644
>I didn't know that was such a sensitive topic around here. Lighten up, eh buddy? It's a joke, guy
>merely pretending to be retarded
I genuinely believe you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to practical firearms mechanics. Your dodging of the question proves this.
Your dirt-cheap device won't be better than a semi only Sten, let alone match the AK.
Neck yourself

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>>32332644
>still thinks it's a caliber
welcome to /k/, now get the fuck out

>just replace the barrel, magazines, and bolt and you can change the caliber bruh... for $50
as with everything else, you don't know how any of this shit works.

>the current year
>can't use modeling programs
post napkin you Larper

You're all talk OP.

Come back when you have something to back up your claims and qualifications, for now it's safe to assume you are just a faggot.

>>32332624

Thank you for the semi-coherent response. Any sourcing on these MattV2099 sounding bananaglockazines?

>>32332626

Can't because if I show you the action it won't be worth selling. It uses under 5 moving parts. It is a mech eng. wetdream.

>>32332631

Cheaper.

>>32332636

Vietnamese basket weaving forums aside, I'm just getting input before I post build.

>>32332680
The magazines in question are Promag 30 round magazines for most glock pistols. These are most commonly for 9mm and are available at Cheaper Than Dirt but I refuse to buy from those fucking Jews after Sandy Hook

>>32332671

Well, you are going to genuinely look pretty stupid at the end of the month then; when are forced to admit that it at least works.

Sorry for making a joke, I don't know /k/ culture. I won't be lighthearted again. You sound like the life of the party.

>>32332673

Will post part of Napkin shortly.

>>32332675

>All talk
>literally posted for input recon from people who would probably be interested in it

Good one, I even said when I would be posting the build demo.

>>32332695
>I even said when I would be posting the build demo.
>said
That's why you are all talk, faggot.

>>32332695
until you post some form of design or proof, all you will get from /k/ is shittalking and memes my dude

>>32332695
>it at least works
>Goalpost-shifting.png

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>>32332680
>Can't because if I show you the action it won't be worth selling. It uses under 5 moving parts
so more moving parts than a closed bolt hammer fired direct blowback.
>muh super sekret designs
yeah you're fucking larping. if you aren't using an existing refined design that is out of copyright (all of them) then you're a fucking idiot. What happened to muh rifle of the ppl. you intend to arm america making them in your garage by hand? why do you think the AR is the most popular rifle on the continent; it was the royalty free, widely available milspec design that every machine shop and gun manufacturer could make parts for.

I bet you have no idea how much mass you need in the bolt for even a caliber like .380, let alone 9mm or any other duty caliber. or how that system inherently won't work with multiple calibers without replacing every complex part in the firearm receiver.

>wood first then 3D printed
3D printing is a meme technology that is only good for rapid prototyping. it takes over a day to print a warfairy stock, then you have to assemble it and baby it. literally the worst of all worlds for mass manufacturing (slow, imprecise, weak). you'd want it injection molded which costs tens of thousands for the mold itself or to mill it and waste a lot of money on materials by machining it from expensive ass polymer stock.

>/pol/
>ever being invited to a party
wew

>>32332690

Ah. Story on that? I never heard anything about it.

>>32332700

If I never post it, then yes, you would be correct. At this point you are arguing semantics.

>>32332701

Will post part of FCG in a few mins.

>>32332712
>3D printing is a meme technology
This.
If you want a uber cheap stock wire is the way to go.

>>32332713
>If I never post it, then yes, you would be correct
No, you are all talk until you post something.

Still waiting, faggot.

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>>32332709

>Be me
>Can't control other peoples responses even when they are wrong

K.

>>32332712

Almost came off like copypasta.

>>32332720

Noted.

>>32332725

Here you go faggit, next post.

>>32332749
>another post
>still no napkin
I am disappoint

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Here is PART of the FCG, it is striker fired and the striker reference in the photo is a 90 degree tee off of the striker itself which resides in the BCG.

It fires from a closed bolt, cannot hammer follow, be fired in an NFA configuration, etc.

>>32332760

the safety is a pin that can slide horizontally inside of the half moon sear, locking it from being able to fire even if dropped, etc.

there is no fucking way he can make a gun like the one hes talking about for $100. he has to find a firing mechanism that will last a long time and will be cheap, which isn't really possible.


ive seen people make pistols under $50, someone even made a revolver. it consisted of a metal tube with 8 holes drilled in,and it had a single sheet metal frame. the hammer was connected to the frame, and it had a spring connected to the hammer and frame. it used .22 i think, im trying to find the video and i think the fucker deleted it. he basically pulled the hammer back with his thumb, and he slid his thumb off to shoot. it was quite nice, and it only had one moving part.

>>32332760
This is either totally incomplete or manually cycled.
In either case needlessly overcomplicated.

>>32332785

See

>>32332760

"firing mechanism that will last a long time and will be cheap"

Probably 4 dollars max in materials there, no complex parts to break.

>>32332760
Yeah, this definetly looks like a serious professional project of a competent and skilled individual and not like random scribblings of a bored child.

>>32332796

Is that so? You mean when the bolt (and thus the striker tee / pin) blows over the moon-sear, that won't be ready to be fired again?

Please, explain how you know this. Dying to hear.

"needlessly overcomplicated."

Wow, again, please show me some more simple designs, with safety and disconnector as well.


>>32332803

>Bitched at endlessly for napkin
>Post Napkin

YEA NAH M8, IS SKRIBBLES M8

>>32332819
Take a look at the Sten's system, replacing the milled sear with a stamped one and removing the transfer bar- retaining the 1 spring and not 2.
Generally speaking, metal-on-metal is superior to strings.

>>32332819
I'm not the one asking for a napkin, I'm asking to back up yor claims and qualifications.

What you posted only proves you have no qualifications whatsoever and little to no idea what you are doing.

This thread is dildos. Send it to Kel-Tec.

>>32332760
>>32332769
Ok so you basically reused the principle of a ultra shittified AR lower and a cross bolt safety....

WOOOOOOOOOOOW reinventing the wheel guys !

So how does the locking mechanism works?
pure blowback? gas piston? gas port?

Listen kiddo I am no gunsmith but I do love repairing old stuff (colt lightning, 1897, 1887, SXS )
and I have some clues that you are 14 and rediscovering the principle of the closed bolt blowback, a design that is arleady used on hipoint carbines for example.

>>32332803
Modern Education Ladies and gentlemen :
Hordes of self entitled self centered brats that will assume they are geniuses over one brilliant use of their monsterfueled grey matter spongy poptart instead of having the knowledge that they didn't bring new on the table.

>Yo momma I wrote 12 lines of english on a piece of paper 4 of them are rhyme, sadly the rhyme are bitch switch witch and bitch 'cause I didn't knew a fourth word in "itch", could I be the best rapper in the universe?
>yes Dear believe in your dreams, if you fail it's society's fault !
>Yay ! imma so smart !

>>32332144
Can you give us early screenshots?

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>>32332819
"The day when a 12 year old trolled half of /k/ with
>muh $50 rifle with hardware store parts "

Include me in the screencap.

>pic related
>actual cheap blowback .223 rifle patented by some idiot over a decade ago

>>32332305
I would go 9mm as it will put a nigger down if he tries to start shit on your property. Will it be readily rail compatible? What kind of irons will be standard?
>No one willing to trust someone trying to do /k/ubes work, whilst he is under the aspect of /K/ek

>>32332836

I just did, and I hear what you are saying; but in the context of something that is:

>Not fired from a closed bolt
>Not F/A
>Designed to be as cheap as possible
>Fast as fuck to assemble

It's what I'm looking for. I do appreciate the honest input.

>>32332841

"qualifications whatsoever"

What the fuck is your obsession with qualifications. I meet people every day who are "college educated," and would forget how to fucking breath if Buzzfeed and MTV didn't remind them to.

I'm not Journeyman enough? Seriously, be a better class of shitposter.


>>32332855

What are you even talking about?

>Be AR platform
>Be hammer fired
>Rotating cam safety
>Separate disconnect for trigger
>Waaay more fucking parts than that

Come again?


"that you are 14 and rediscovering the principle of the closed bolt blowback, a design that is arleady used on hipoint carbines for example."

You are demonstrating to me that you aren't understanding the point of this. I've never seen an FCG in that configuration before. It is "new," to me, and to you unless you can point me to a pre-existing one.

Even if it wasn't, I've explained multiple times what the scope of the project is, some of you junglebunnies are insufferable.

>>32332601
Could the rifle be upgraded so that it could be dragged through the mud?

>>32332601
>assuming you aren't using it to bash skulls and drag it through the swamp, etc

But OP, that is what one of the requirements to be a battle rifle!

>>32332883
Your newfag is showing

>>32332859

I'd actually rather not, I didn't want to post the FCG because it's my baby; but people naturally are (rightly to an extent) skeptical of a /polack/ with big claims.

I will tell you this: I will post a working prototype video within the next month, and probably a video showing some of the basic working components in the next 3 weeks.

>>32332862

And that design is stupid because?

Again, like the other rifle anon posted, I would love to own something like that.

>>32332872

Yeah leaning to 9mm or .380 just because it can have enough power, is cheap, readily available, etc.

Just a single picatinny rail for convenience to me and to you. May or may not include a glock mag, but will 99% likely be taking a standard glock pattern mag. Which does fulfill the original promise of being able to take a big 'un.

Anything else you would like to know?

Yes, I hope it will be able to dispatch "intruders," with ease.

>>32332883
>>Not F/A
Use it for the striker. With an adequate 2nd sear, should be far more reliable and practical.

>>32332909
Where will you post it, I want to see it ASAP.

>>32332909
>And that design is stupid because?
>Again, like the other rifle anon posted, I would love to own something like that.

I'm not saying it is stupid, i'm saying that there is already a design like that and your shitty music wire sear will not work except for a full auto.

Do you realize the moment you sell one, the internals and your $50 system will be free to be copied by anyone, right?

>>32332895
>>32332905

It was more the bashing part, the mud was a metaphor. It should actually have extremely good grime tolerance in the action. Maybe I'll put a "MattV2099" style crud test in there. Thanks guys.

>>32332906

I've been on 4chan for a long time man.

>>32332912

Could you explain a little more? I'm having a difficult time visualizing it.

>>32332917

I'll post it on here, with the Samefag Namefag name, and title. If it doesn't get picked up for whatever reason I'll post it again. I'm sure I will be making almost daily threads when people see it's real, I'm actually a little surprised people are so interested in it. Once you see it, just sub to my YT to not miss any updates.

Expect around Jan 7thish

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Holy shit /k/ is easy to troll today.

>>32332936

If you look closely at the schematic, you can clearly see it's an open bolt machine gun. I would love to make that, obviously I can't and won't.

If you go back and look at my FCG, if you hold the trigger down, the striker bar / pin / tee will clear the moon-sear, ie, does not fire until it is reset by letting go of it. It's it's own dis connector. Again, I have asked others to show me who else has made an FCG exactly like this?


"Do you realize the moment you sell one, the internals and your $50 system will be free to be copied by anyone, right?"

I've said at least 4 times now that the goal is to get as many people with them in their hands as I can, hopefully I will get support from people when they see it so that I might get them one for roughly the same cost as them buying it, while making them cheaper and cheaper.

>>32332959

What indicates that this is a troll?

>>32332966
> that the goal is to get as many people with them in their hands as I can

Then post actual plans in a PDF and tell people you can make part kits for them for money.
The Krikit25 already exists as a low cost homemade pistol option.

>>32332081
Too good to be true, but I'll humor you.
I'd want it in .30 Carbine.
I probably wouldn't donate to any kickstarter, but I would show people free plans and such.
The only reason I wouldn't buy it is because it would have anything meme or Pepe related on it. That's just fucking stupid.

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>>32332941
9001 hours in ms paint
I even threw in a free disconnector mechanism.

>>32333004
Nice doodle, but your handwriting is fucking atrocious.

I'd take one in either .36 cupfire or .50 pinfire.

>>32333006
Left handed, and English is not my main language.

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>>32333012
Well that's excusable I guess. You might want to try putting the text in digitally next time though, for sake of legibility.

>>32332081
lose the meme name, subtlety is better for avoiding 3letter types wandering by to fuck with you.
ptch your price point higher or folk will assume its a scam/shit quality/a pipedream. $100 is low enough.
Make one & show it firing: a lot & without failures.
t.b.h a youtube how to with a parts-list included would be of more interest (not everyone is in the US) . side the US will find it easier to source .22
good luck

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>>32332992

>Low cost
Time is money, and that looks pretty, and pretty time consuming. Did you see the FCG I posted? Literally a few moving parts.

>Takes Glock mags
>Has a rail
>Is a rifle

"Then post actual plans in a PDF and tell people you can make part kits for them for money."

Ok...ok you are on to something here, I like your style.

As long as I don't send them the "receiver," then it's not a gun?

Definitely food for thought.
>>32333001

"The only reason I wouldn't buy it is because it would have anything meme or Pepe related on it. That's just fucking stupid."

Ok, you can leave a note for no pepe in the order box.

>>32333001

"Energy 110 gr (7 g) FMJ 1,990ft/s 967 ft·lbf"

Nigger what did I just say about CUP?

That's only 200 ftlbs less than a .223

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>>32332308
>Shit disassembly
>Disassembles exactly like an AR when removing the take down pins
>Worked well for irregular forces like the PIRA and local security like law enforcement
>Has the largest influence in the Western world from its action, and earned many licenses to countries to develop them
>Literally a three piece piston
>Stamped and cheaper than an AR
>Had military potential, needed development like the AR-15/M16 series in the beginning.
Yeah, nah, As for the "propietary magazines"
>What is the AR-180B
Wished they made the lower stamped steel instead of polymer, but the AR-15 series were already popular and widely available in the market while also being already adopted by the US military.
>>32332275
Pic related, if Ulster irregulars can make submachineguns out of pipe and welded metal in an antigun country like Ireland, so can you. The main issue is making it legal, since you need it to be fired from a close bolt, however, looking at what you're trying to do, a break action in .22lr or .410 would be sufficient. My recommendations is to learn about firearms and ammunition before attempting somethings like this. Keep in mind there are also makeshift kits and schematics for Sterling Submachineguns available online

>>32333036
Lose the Pepe and Meme shit and you might actually get broader support, that's all I'm saying.
And any inexpensive caliber is fine. You are also setting the price too low.
Something like $150-200 would do you better from a market standpoint.

You're absolutely full of shit and just another kickstarter scam artist.

Fuck off.

>>32333004

Very cool, thank you for writing that out! I'm still taking it in.

>>32333008

Fantastic sir, would you mind paying me in Confederate Dollars or shillings?

>>32333025

Damnit, you are right about being sensible and not meming. I was born to meme. Fuck.

Ok, 100bucks. You are right about that as well.

"Make one & show it firing: a lot & without failures. "

I will do a torture test vid running a lot of shit through it.

>>32333046

Yeah but dude, I'm not making a submachine gun. If you look at my diagram I posted up the thread, It shows my fun firing from a closed bolt.

"a break action in .22lr or .410 would be sufficient."

...What dude? lmao, sorry wtf

>>32333056

You are right, you are right.

I might sell the PDF with partskit w/o receiver like one anon said. That way I don't need a license because I'm not selling a gun.

I will be sure to check on that though, don't want to get alphabet assfucked.

>>32333086

Are you upset that you didn't get the double trips I just received?

Perhaps you should...check them?

"another kickstarter scam artist"

Who was the last one?

Think whatever you want man but I've done my best to respond to everyone and explain what I am trying to do. There is no ulterior motive here.

>>32333107
>>32333056 here
If you are legit, I look forward to your torture test vid. You and that one Finnish kid with the prototype rifle are getting me all hot and bothered.

>>32333120

I am legit, any requests on the torture fluids? PB, chocolate syrup, etc?

>>32333120

Oh, Pepe memery will be opt-in optional due to popular demand.

yea, anon seems to be hyping it up. but if you are legit, i would like a video on how it works. im still not sure how your trigger mechanism is going to work tho, do you have a video of that type of design working?

>>32333100
Break action: Think of a derringer or those side by side wild west double barrel shotguns, however, this is moot considering you want to make something more than that. Well, fear not, for a delayed blowback recoil operation is here to save the day. Few moving parts, a sealed system, is used by French machine guns, WWII submachineguns, many prototype rifles that went into field trials, can fire from a close bolt. Kuddos if this upper is compatible with AR pistol caliber lowers that take glock magazines. Parts and ammunition compatibilty can help with getting sales in the US market, as well as make it easier for users to exchange spare parts or magazines when on the field
>http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2010/08/actions-blowback-action-lever-delayed.html?m=1

>>32333150
dirt, sand, mud, animal fat, and corn syrup at 98.4 Degrees Farenheight would be my top choices honestly.

>>32333150
Snow/ice, dirt, sand (wet and dry), mud, dust

heres a gun that can be made for under $50. hell, ill even say less than $5

https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/2016/11/01/38-zip-gun-colombia/

>>32333162

It's all in the thread lad. Working prototype vid early next month.

>>32333163

I'm aware of what a break action is, it's just not applicable because this isn't a squirrel rifle.

>>32333166
>>32333190

I don't have access to sand, but I can try some of the others. I'll make like a fluid medley, and use some type of abrasive in it like toothpaste and dirt

>>32333194

Nice bait

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>>32332081
So this sounds like something H&R already conquered with their HandiRifle program. Notable differences being the H&R rifles were all single shot break action. Something that was also accomplished by a company named Feather USA.
Keltec also dabbled in the world of PCC's with the sub2k.

The reason these never became mainstream is because the niche they fill is incredibly small, and they are most often regarded as novelties. I own all three of the above rifles.

Listen, I read through some of your posts and skimmed over the thread. What you're proposing to do with your exact constraints listen is highly improbable. There's trade offs with firearm quality. Of course, lower price, lower overall production quality. An increase by any measurable standard to any of the characteristics of a firearm will increase the fiscal value of production, and therefor the end user cost.

In other words, you ain't makin' a fucking gun that looks good, feels good, shoots good, and is reliable for the cost of $50 or more that isn't a pipegun slapped together in 2 hours inside your garage that adheres to standard safety testing and industry production norms for profit. This goes without saying, but with all this you'd never make enough to offset the cost of the SOT every year.

We all know you're bullshit, but I'll be the last one to tell someone they can't accomplish something that they dream of. So go on then, prove me wrong.

>>32333217
Also raw bacon with plenty of fat and some bones for the torture test.

>>32333227

>Break action single

Yea nah mate.

It is something similar in functional principles as the sub2000, yes.

"is highly improbable"

Which will make it all the better when you see the prototype and want one. It will not be a novelty, it will be an AR-15 of an AR-15.


You know what made the Ferrari F40 good? It was the literal embodiment of function being the basis of form. That is, was was so minimalist, and so fast, that it became a standard of beauty and desirability. That is what this will be.

" but with all this you'd never make enough to offset the cost of the SOT every year"

An anon suggested selling an entire parts kit without receiver, much akin to an 80% lower. I am going to look into that.

"We all know you're bullshit"

Nope.

" So go on then, prove me wrong."

Gladly.

>hey guys I'm making a magic gun that does everything essentially for free!
>that's impossible
>NO IT ISN'T YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL ALL SEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Great thread. 10/10.

>>32333315

*Autistic Screeching intensifies*

>>32333302
I'm looking to manufacture my own designs or at least make money from the patents, going to school for this.

I wish I could work with you somehow.

>>32333435

Where do you live, buddy?


Maybe you can, I would love someone to know their way around patents, the $$ potential would be much higher. It's just a one man show as of now.

>>32333449
USA.

>>32332081
what sorta machinery are you using?

>>32332986
Uh, everything about this thread. Good bait tho, very entertaining

The problem with cheap guns is the rifled barrel. Rifled barrels are expensive. If you don't have a rifled barrel you either have a smoothbore shotgun or a nigger-tier zip gun useless for anything but blowing your hand off.

Consider that even a hi-point carbine has a MSRP of over $300 for the cheapest pot metal bullshit possible. Even assuming 50% markup between dealer and manufacturer, that's $150 unit costs incurred by a facility which enjoys economies of scale and has been engineered for rapid and low cost production. They have cut every corner possible in making the absolute cheapest pistol caliber carbine on the market. I sincerely doubt that you can create even a terrible one-off DIY PCC for less than $50.

t. manufacturing engineer

>>32332081
I'll give you a chance OP, I'm intrigued

i live in a no gun country but this sounds good

godspeed OP

>>32333575
Lets roughly cut the rifling and then run corrosive liquid through the barrel to give it a quick chemical sand down to tolerance. You could also do an abrasive but I think a chemical being poured through is more likely to reach every corner of the barrel's grooves and would work in a consistent manner as it made it's way down. Thus you could control the material removal by pulsing a shot of the chemical and then following it with a neutralizer. If they flowed at the same rate you could make it o every portion of the barrel is affected for the same time period...

>wants to manufacture a firearm in large quantities (which involves costs and connections even at the basic bitch level you're pretending to cover)
>spends the whole morning shitposting on an anatolian tangerine peeling BBS

get a job you fucking NEET

>>32332081
>Would you purchase a rifle that is:
>>Brand new
>>Under $50
>>Made in USA
>>Sold by a licensed FFL / perfectly legal
>>Semi-Auto
>>Giant Banana mag
>>Bullpup / Min length config
>>Extremely ingenious, simple and effective design (Think when you see the action of an old Mauser, that "Oh shit, that's smart" moment.)
>>First models would have basic wood stocks, later ones would have 3D printed stocks
>>Will literally be sold by a company called: "Pepe Le'meme Liberation Tech, LLC," or something similar.

No.
I'm not going to buy from an FFL.
I want a helical magazine.
3d printing is a meme.

>>32333803
>I think a chemical being poured through is more likely to reach every corner of the barrel's grooves and would work in a consistent manner as it made it's way down.
You don't understand surface tension, geometry, or pchem...

>>32332081
I'm highly skeptical that this can be accomplished for under $50 a rifle unless the guns are completely unreliable, grenade after a few shots, or you're losing $100+ per rifle.

>>32332081
Enjoy managing the overhead and keeping your investors happy selling homemade firearms at 50 a pop. Not to mention all the lawsuits when your product blows up in someone's face or is used in a mass shooting.

>>32333230
Wtf? Nigger do you just want him to make breakfast?

>>32333803
you're not thinking this through.

How do you "roughly cut" the rifling? There are some DIY rifling jigs on the interbutts that push a cutting tool through a barrel in a spiral. Truth is, all rifling cutting is "roughly cut", which is why the barrel is lapped afterwards to remove tool marks. You could amortize the cost of a rifling machine through production of many, many rifles, but if your intent is to make a cheap DIY PCC you have to add the entire cost of the rifling jig to the cost of your "$50" gun. Don't forget the cutting tool, likely you're brazing a carbide tip on a steel shank, which can get expensive. Even at the end of this, you're left with a pipe "barrel" with scratched in rifling grooves. I'm not even going to touch on your idea of a chemical etch to finish size, that's retarded. If you're planning on using some kind of steel-destroying acid etch don't forget to put in the cost of the etch, neutralizer, tanks to hold the compounds and do the work, safety equipment so you don't burn your fucking eyes out with acid, etc.

There's a reason guns cost the amount they do. I'm not trying to be insulting here, but you come off as either very young or completely ignorant as to how metal items are made, let alone firearms.

t. increasingly skeptical manufacturing engineer

oh come on now, this shit is getting a bump

What if the madman actually does it?

>>32333036
>As long as I don't send them the "receiver," then it's not a gun?

I'm not expert at un law, but iirc parts kits are not guns. Yes, if you actually make it that cheap, you should be able to sell it as parts kit with a few missing holes and such.
Ask someone who actually knows the law.

>>32332275
Inb4 anon sells one that assplodes and gets sued into bankruptcy before selling 50 guns.

>>32334815
This is why I wouldn't want to by his hardware store gun. I like having my fingers and face thank you.

>>32332081
Do not make a bullpup. It will only add cost and complexity to the design.

Design it around 9mm or 556, steel case. Cheap gun needs to be able to shoot cheap ammo.

Avoid 12 guage like the plague.

>>32332372
I'd buy it

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>>32332855

>Modern Education Ladies and gentlemen :
>Hordes of self entitled self centered brats that will assume they are geniuses over one brilliant use of their monsterfueled grey matter spongy poptart instead of having the knowledge that they didn't bring new on the table.

>Projecting this hard

OP post a website/blog, this thread wont' live forever

>>32335161
Hopefully it ends sooner rather than later, this is obviously bait/troll thread.

>later ones would have 3D printed stocks

Yeah, let's mature into an "easy to set up, but scales like complete shit" manufacturing method as we ramp up production. That's a good way of doing business when you aim at the dirt cheap mass volume segment.

>>32335112
It sounds pedantic I agree but Pepe didn't released anything remotely plausible as a weapon design and is continuously trolling
>I suspect some kind of Royal Nonesuch copycat type of personality...

And RN is kinda cringy but somewhat talented.

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>>32332514
I will send a sharpie in the pooper pic if you blow my mind with this design.

And if Putin rigged the election (he didn't) then he made the right choice in candidate.

I'm Baaaaacckkk

>>32333575

"nigger-tier zip gun"

The barrel of this weapon is 1000 psi from the working CUP of .380. It will not blow up, it will be able to run for a very long time. I will test the prototype to hell and back to find the weak point, make that stronger, etc.

" Even assuming 50% markup"

I can tell you aren't a business major. Do you know how high the profit is on most things you buy is? Like cooked meals, etc? I do. It's a lot. More than you would think sometimes.

"They have cut every corner possible"

>Limited production
>"80%" lower type of kit
>Not selling guns

"I sincerely doubt that you can create even a terrible one-off DIY PCC for less than $50."

Amount will be around 100$ now. Read thread better.

>>32333641

Thanks, anything you want to know?

>>32333761

If I don't think this is legal to sell to your area, I won't. I will be offering educational only videos for /noguns/ countries at cost, so you can see what it would be like to build one from scratch if you lived in a free country though. I'm not advocating or encouraging you to do that, merely helping to educate a gun enthusiast.

>>32333803

Bruh, wtf. Yes, the barrel rifling will only be rough cut anyways.

>>32333805

Plan has changed, "80%" kits of the prototype.

"which involves costs and connections"

The favorite argument of naysayers is to pretend I'm trying to compete with Remington.

>>32334205

This ain't a Calico, friendo. Kits are not being sold with a "receiver" so they aren't guns. Which is best for everyone.

>>32334215

Yeah, nigga trippin'

>>32334246

"grenade after a few shots"

.380 is most likely going to be the cal, friendo. Are you concerned .380 will explode? Because I'm not.


>>32334308

>Investors

What the fuck is wrong with some of you. The fact that you are implying there is a huge factory or warehouse shows me you aren't understanding the entire premise of the project. You may go now, dismissed.

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This isn't just autism...this is fully automatic autism.

>>32334367

Yeah I was wondering what the deal with the bones was too.

>>32334368

Perhaps I'm more starry eyed than you, I don't doubt that. Yes, the barrel will be less than perfectly rifled, but again we are using a reletively low powered round here, you won't be shooting 600 yards with it.

Don't twist it up...buh dum tssss


>>32334382

The absolute madman will do it, and you will be one of the people who said he will do it.

>>32334757

I was aware of this but completely forgot until anon said so. I've already made changes because of this thread so the input is certainly appreciated.

>>32334815

I'm not selling rifles, only ideas and nearly completed parts kits.

>>32334832

Look at the case pressure of .380 compared to pretty much everything other than .22. It aint gone blow up, ya dig? That's the smallest "real" round you could reasonably use anyways.

>>32334846

"Design it around 9mm or 556, steel case"

Now that you mention it I think I will, I didn't think about how the cases are stronger and will tolerate my subpar barrel material. Ok, thanks.

Not 5.56 though, I would be worried about it going kersplooey in all seriousness.

>>32334959

Negro Nagant.

>>32335112

He's a lot smarter than me, I should just listen. Did you see that analogy?

>>32335161

I would post my Youtube channel but it would be easy to dox me so I need to change some things around. I WILL post my permanent Youtube Channel when the prototype video comes out. Promise promise promise.

>>32335335

Wood then?

>>32336012
>>32336012

"And RN is kinda cringy but somewhat talented."

Royal Nonesuch is an idiot who pulled a zip shot gun plan off of a survival website and started shooting cans with it. It's the same type of thing when someone learns that diesel engines can run off of motor oil and vegetable oil, "wowowowow," but really it's a retard with someone elses design that he keeps reusing over and over, and over again.

Fuck that guy. Seriously fuck that guy. He can barely speak. Reminds me of Roman Atwood, ugly retard with no oration ability who randomly got famous. RN has no talent. Period.

>>32336038

Thank you for the anal appreciation.

>Tfw Putin didn't rig the elections but you wish he did...

>>32337800
>>32337819
I've had this thread on auto-refresh since the moment I saw it this morning. Godspeed and don't lose any fingers.

>>32332514
You are actually autistic. Just look at the name of your "company".

>>32337570

Are you sure there is nothing Autistic about paying 30 grand for an automatic rifle if you really wanted one that badly?

>>32333506

Do tell, East Coast, Commiefornia? Where. You just said you wanted to work together, maybe we could. I'm never opposed to capable partners.

>>32333528

Nothing Fancy. This is revenge for the Death/k/ube. It's designed to be easy to produce. 18 year old high school students will be able to scrape enough shekels for this in a week. Never again will they pry my hard dick from my Cheetos encrusted fingers. Moron Labia. But seriously, this is a project to get as many guns into the hands of people, as cheaply and quickly as I physically can. For no other reason than the fact I think I should.

>>32332175
Sell this shit in europe too
At least in the free parts... you cant get here anything that isnt at least 800 bucks

>>32337842

Thanks man, appriciate the support. I may or may not make more threads about this with the revisions I have crowdsourced here; I don't know how your guys' mods are. I don't want to piss them off seeing as how so many people seem to think this is a troll, I don't know how many times I can say it isn't.

>>32337913

I could be, sure. I have a really fucking high IQ, and typical NEET patterns of behavior. Has absolutely nothing to do with this thread or how awesome the Pepe Liberator will be.

>>32338191

I don't know if that is legal and I wouldn't be willing to find out, because the kit itself is constructive intent.

I would, however, be willing to sell the plans to anyone in the world. I am relatively sure that is not illegal, because I am only showing them to you on the basis it's for purely educational purposes only.

If it were legal for you to make, the beauty is you could literally go to a hardware store for every single thing you would need, and assemble same day. Only needing pretty much a drill and hacksaw, some sandpaper, etc.

Nothing you couldn't get, again, from a hardware store. But instead of being a single shot meme tier zip gun...it's a real gun. A battle rifle.

I have 0 criminal intent in every aspect of this, luckily I live in Murcuh where citizens aren't serfs yet.

>>32338018
South East

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>>32332081

Yeah but the problem is I think the reason most guns are over $100 is simply due to paying employee gunsmiths to make them and do QC

And there may be federal Fees involved.

I mean for example the Ruger 10/22 is a semi auto rifle. It weighs 8 pounds. It costs about $300 new, kinda a chunk to pay but still, its reasonable.

But the AR-15, same weight, stronger bullet but it only kicks as much as a .45 does. Semi auto rifle. Costs $800-1000 fucking dollars ($500 bargain basement version).

My thinking is there are fees and royalties being paid here.

And there's enough different kinds of firearms actions patented and copyrighted that if you're making a custom firearm then you're likely going to be rubbing somebody's rhubarb somewhere.

thats just the system we have to live under, at the present moment.

So I dont think youll be able to make a 50 dollar gun.

However as long as it isnt known for blowing up, I think I might grab one.

Caliber?
45 acp, its pretty low pressure.

This is how you can make money on it with aftermarket parts and actions, extended magazines and drums.

> 45 super and 450 smc raise pressure to push the bullet out with 357mag levels of firepower, but are dimensionally identical to the 45acp.

> the thought of 45acp in a thompson or grease gun length magazine makes my dick hard

> but I guess id settle for a 380 since you can get that many more shots

> then again how about a COLD LOADED 50 caliber, pic related
> that shit, in a fucking 20 shot banana clip
> still penetrates harder than a black dick

Everyone should have a right to own arms at an affordable price, DO IT.

.22 or 9mm would be good choices, imo.

>>32339366

NE / MW. As goes my state, so goes the nation. I you are KY / TN / WV, that isn't that far.


>>32339517


See this is why I made a thread on this, because I'm so stupid I didn't even think to look if .45 ACP was a lower case pressure than .380.

>Tfw sure enough, it is 2,500 psi less than .380


Ok, so we can safely say it's going to be between .380, .45 ACP, and 9mm x 19 (Steel case or "reduced recoil" ONLY).

Does anyone know if .45 glock mags take 9mm and .380? Would someone check for me?

"due to paying employee gunsmiths to make them and do QC"

Done and done. Me, myself, and I.

" Ruger 10/22 is a semi auto rifle. It weighs 8 pounds. It costs about $300 new, kinda a chunk to pay but still, its reasonable."

It's still a brand name from a big ass factory.

"My thinking is there are fees and royalties being paid here."

"rubbing somebody's rhubarb somewhere."

Completely proprietary FCG, stock, safety, bolt, etc.


"However as long as it isnt known for blowing up, I think I might grab one."

When I get closer to sending the parts kits out (after clearing with legal and etc) I might just have nearby /kommandos/ that want the first one come to my workshop, we will make it together, they can review it independently and send me a video of their review, as well as post on here. That would be cool.

" the thought of 45acp in a thompson or grease gun length magazine makes my dick hard"

Dick is diamonds, eh?

I don't get your picture meme?

"still penetrates harder than a black dick"

I know there are no flags on /k/ but you could have just said you were from Sweden....
>>32339688

It's looking like .45, .380, or certain 9mm loads.

>>32339951

I just want to clarify that by "we will make it together," I mean I will not be touching anything, rather explaining how to construct while said gentleman physically constructs and stamps his rifle by himself.

Want to be clear on that, by the book is the only way I play.

>>32334382
Forgotten Weapons will have a new firearm for a future episode

>>32337490
>the barrel rifling will only be rough cut anyways.
What does that even mean? Are you going to do cut rifling? Because that shit is slow and tedious, but the only thing I can think of that a home gun maker can do.

>>32332081
Implying /pol/ are capable of anything but blaming others for their failures in life?
But hey, sure I would, if this product existed.

>>32334205
>3D printing a meme
Kek

Say that in ten years

>>32339951

9mm and .380 will physically fit in a .45 mag, but it will never feed right.

Source: I work for a small company that develops, sells, and manufactures magazine accessories.

>>32334205
>3D printers
>meme

Plasic printing has meme like qualities, but even plastic lowers have come a ways since the early prints that couldn't withstand shit. When metal sintering printers start becoming accessible in the next ten years, sheeit.

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>>32341831
>thinking we'll ever have desk top laser sintering machines when they are only useful for ultra high detail impossible to machine aerospace parts
>not just getting a used milling machine at that point
>inb4 "just press print bruh" 3D printing memes from people who don't own 3D printers or realize they are as much of a pain in the ass to calibrate and set up as single axis mills, laser cutters, etc.

>>32340021
Went from
>I wanna market and make le maymay gun for the masses

To
>I just want you guys to source info, help plan schematics, then build it yourself

Also, if you are serious, after the first guy "buys" your schematics he will just share ware it to everyone free of charge. Good luck on you your "only the plans, buy it now $100!" scam.

>>32339951
>KY / TN / WV, that isn't that far
I may be far.

Most work could be done across the net though, but in addition to going to school I am looking at buying an unrelated business soon. That will eat up alot of my days, but it won't be a permanent situation (once I have a new crew trained). I just need some way to know I'm contacting you, the real you.

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>>32332509
>cheapest domestic centerfire caliber rifle is the AR15

The rather decent if ugly hi-point carbine begs to differ.

>>32341274

You mean the Youtube channel that millions of people love and watch religiously? Yeah, ok, sounds terrible. Nice fail.

>>32341431

It will be "rifled," sure. Not the type you are thinking of, but there will be rifling.


>>32341773

Fair enough, that's just going to kind of be the choice right now, .45 or 9mm / .380. I will put up a strawpoll when I post the next thread.


>>32341748

He is correct in saying that a carpenter could churn out 4 - 6 finished stocks in the time that I could print one.

I will see what the demand is, obviously it would be cool to mount the receiver / action in a tacticool stock, but the wood ones will be pretty cool, too. Most people don't know what sanding and a little stain does to wood lol

>>32342213

Uh yeah, the entire point of the thread was to be able to develop on the concept.

> "make le maymay gun for the masses"

Yes, that is the central point of my intention. Has not changed.


"I just want you guys to source info, help plan schematics, then build it yourself"

No, I want to sell you a parts kit, which you then have to build the receiver for which will be literal child's play. An hour or so from opening the package you will have a fully functioning carbmeme.

For people who are not able to buy the parts kit but are interested to know for educational purposes, I will sell them a different set of schematics.

" your schematics he will just share ware it to everyone free of charge"

>Implying the assembly instructions will have detailed information on the components.

Yes, good one. I will have accidentally written the entire thing out.

Also not understanding I want people to have these. Kek.


>>32342227

That's fine, the distance isn't a huge deal to me. Here is the official project email:

[email protected]

We can talk on there until I'm sure you aren't another one of these neck-beards.

>>32342427

Inb4 they buy me out to keep it from ever being made. At the point that you are spending 300$ on a brand new rifle, you might as well only spend 150 or whatever, that's why you are doing.

450$ > 315$ > 1XX$

Feels good man.

>>32342565
Sent :^)

>>32342584

Responded, and I'm not making gay emoticons either. If I did, it would look like this: " K ;)"

But again, I would never do that.

What bothers me more than the unironic dudebro retard frog poster is the equally retarded people who give positive feedback to an empty bullshit promise because they don't know any better or care enough.
>lol fiddy buk gat I want do it ohpee
>I has no gunz pls make me has gunz xddd
>I believe in u god speed u r best!!!!!111
All he did was spout memes while not even trying to pretend he has the PROPER knowledge, capability or resources to not make hand grenades.

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>>32342704

Or I don't have to justify myself to naysayers who consistently overestimate what a gun actually is, and what it needs to function.

I've set timeframes, if I don't meet them you would know it's a troll.

In all seriousness, why would I do that? I mean really, would this be a good use of time If I'm trolling? There are probably better ways to piss people off.

>PROPER KNOWLEDGE

Some of the best inventions ever to grace this planet earth were born from the hands of a layman (Which I'm not, for your information.)

>Pic related, it's you.

>>32332081
Bumping in exchange of requesting OP to deliver with some infographics when he have them.

>>32342887

What kind of infographics do you want?

I suppose I will make something with the basic specs when this thread dies.

I did post a napkin of the FCG by popular request in basic form if you Ctrl + F / search FCG.

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Oops https://www.scribd.com/doc/288878779/The-Table-Leg-Typewriter-Practical-Scrap-Metal-Small-Arms-Vol-10

>>32343088

Oh, did you find plans on the internet to make a shitter STEN? Open bolt machine gun you say? Pray tell, how does it work? What is this, mystical "slamfire," you speak of?

Consider me on board.

>>32343352

Welcome, friend. A lot has changed since the initial post, fyi. In a good way.

Are people still replying to this shit bait?

>>32332550
>Phoenix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Arms
Oh no.

>>32343467

Isn't bait

>>32343677

Oh....oh god no. Its....it's not like that, anon. I swear.