Glock "Safeties"

>>32312642
I honestly don't understand trigger safeties either, anon, literally what is the point, take it out.

You're a dumbass. It's to prevent a misfire if the gun is dropped or jostled.

>>32312642
Similarly, i see the XDs get shit on here occasionally, people saying "hurr it won't shoot 'less you hold it right"

>inb4 glockfags try to damage control

>>32312667
and how will it do that, if it's only gonna shoot if you pull the trigger either way

You had to have your tip of a finger on the very edge of the trigger. That shot wouldn't do any good in my opinion anyway.

>>32312680
In shitty firearms, the inertia of a drop can force the sear rearward

In a glawk, it's impossible for that to happen.

>>32312684
my finger was actually too high, and only slightly so. Like mid trigger, such that the trigger wants to start moving before the safety is cleared

>>32312705
I've tried every possible way to have my finger "too high", but everytime i'm able to pull the trigger. You must have some thin rat paws not man's hands.

>>32312642
This is hitting the nail on the head. That one in a million where you are actually in a life or death situation and your hand is not in the correct position because you aren't thinking clearly, and the gun fails to fire.

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>>32312779
i mean, my index finger is a size 11 ring

im just not a hamplanet is all

>>32312779
Fucking this.
>>32312705
a Glock 19's trigger is only about 3/4" long. The safety shoe is 5/8" long, meaning there's only 1/8" of trigger that doesn't have the safety shoe on it.

There's no way in fuck your finger is only an eighth of an inch wide. Your distal phalanx (the really tiny bone in the last bit of your finger) is biologically AT LEAST a quarter of an inch wide, even if you're a prepubescent chinese girl that's 4 foot nothing. And that's just the bone, there's skin, tendons, and probably fat over that.

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>>32312779
pic related

>>32312850
Oh yeah, these are real mans hands, look at those recoil absorbers.

>>32312837
>he thinks the top of the integrated safety disables just as well as the bottom
literally what is a pivot.

if the trigger starts to move before the safety is fully clear, then the safety gets stuck

>>32312905
Look at the picture in >>32312642

Notice how the only parts of the safety shoe you can touch are below the actual pin, which is the actual pivot point?

If you are touching the safety shoe, you are disengaging the safety.

If you claim you weren't, you were doing something retarded or are a legitimate malformed freak.

>>32312642
>if a safety's point is so that the gun doesn't fire if the trigger is pulled and the safety is on

No.

Safties are pointless. Have proper trigger control, nigger.

>>32312983
This
/thread

>>32312983
S-so what's the point of a safety

>>32312642
I have pretty thin fingers and the only way I can fail to turn the safety off is when I purposefully mean to.
Like using the very tip of my finger at the very top of the trigger to purposefully miss the safety.

Glock only added them because they were having trouble getting their pistols to pass drop tests.

>>32313931
So it doesn't fire when it's dropped on the floor

>>32313960
>>32313964
so you're telling me that safeties are fucking useless then, except for the most autistic of gun owners?

just don't drop a loaded gun then jesus christ

>>32312642

Been carrying glocks for yrs, never had an issue about it. Maybe you should stop being a whiny lil bitch. Young fags these days find any thing to bitch about it seems.

>>32312642
>why is this a thing?
because it works
>if a safety's point is so that the gun doesn't fire if the trigger is pulled and the safety is on, then integrated trigger safeties are fucking useless because they'll turn themselves off WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER
Are you saying you don't want your gun to shoot when you pull the trigger?

Glocks weren't designed for fuccbois like you who want guns banned because you self project concerns that you couldn't not kill yourself or others if you had a gun.

The safety in the trigger is primarily so you don't accidentally fire with the fat of your finger if you have your finger on the trigger guard, or if a leather holster happens to graze the side of the trigger. It's small, it costs them nothing to do, it has no negative consequences, and it prevents 'that' many more retards from shooting themselves
>in contrast, ive shot a G19 before
boy look at you. I guess that one time your mom's boyfriend took you to the range when you were 17 really gives you authority huh
>and had failed to turn off the safety when I pulled the trigger, rendering me unable to shoot "until i did it right".
physically impossible to do. The trigger cant move until the safety is fully pulled, so you either are A. lying out your ass or B. couldn't figure out what the trigger was and pulled the wrong thing
>Granted I was very inexperienced, but if I'm getting raped by dindus at the local WWK "rally", I don't want my gun to tell me "Ur doin it wrong, son" and then refuse to shoot.
Why am I not surprised that you're criticizing something you know nothing about and think you're just going to go guns blazing into a rally. /pol/ pls go
>>t. doesn't want to get glocklegged
Don't put your finger on the trigger and squeeze while aiming at your leg. If you do not trust yourself to not do this then don't buy a gun.

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>>32314132
>are you saying
if it's accidental, no.

OP here, I've been reading a bit about safeties on tumblr, and it seems that it categorizes drop safeties versus safeties that prevent accidental trigger pulls

the glock safety, as >>32313964 and >>32312699 mentioned, is to make it drop safe, if I understand correctly, but isn't meant to be what I'll call an "actual" safety.

>>32314132
tldr, have some soup

>>32314234
>inb4 triggered over tumblr

>>32312667

L-like an internal drop safety?

>>32314080
>except for the most autistic of gun owners?
considering how op was somehow can't pull the trigger correctly, it's a valid design choice.

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>just because it hasnt been posted yet

>>32312642
>>32312649
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT FIRE A GLOCK TRIGGER?

YOU LITERALLY JUST PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER

>>32314600
well now I've changed my mind again and think the trigger safety is stupid. If you can already make it drop safe with 2 and 3, and the trigger safety doesn't do anything if the trigger is pulled, then what's the point?

>>32314635

It means a light snag of the trigger isn't going to shoot you in the leg when you're trying to re-holster.

>>32312974
the only way ive seen to NOT engage the safety is by using the fingertip to only touch the trigger. but only a retard could have an issue like this

>>32314649
I can already picture op holding the clock in disgust like he's holding a dead rotting animal and making as little physical contact as possible, scratching the trigger with his finger nails with his pinkies out.

How else do you fail to pull the trigger and the safety on the trigger?

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>>32314698
lol no shit.

maybe he cant handle the trigger pull

>>32314628
>t. butthurt noguns wannabe glockfag

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>>32314808
>>32314698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8QuLYXKNCg


>>32314816
Did you fail being a guard or something, why so salty?

>>32314234
Dude clean your stove top.

>>32314958
it's a communal stovetop

>>32312705
>>32312779
>>32312835
>>32312837
maybe he was shooting an m&p and remembering it wrong. Those things have a dogshit trigger safety.

>>32314600
and this is the reason why glock trigger pull feel so fucking awful.

>>32316096
ive never shot, nor want to shoot, a gun so fucking ugly as a shield

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>>32316060
>communal stovetop
you god damn communalist

>>32314628

I'm >>32312649, and I'm not saying I can't fire a glock, I'm saying that trigger safeties serve no purpose whatsoever and I'm confused as to why they're even there.

>>32317285

>trigger safeties serve no purpose whatsoever

it prevents the trigger from moving. are you an idiot?

>>32317942
but why? it's in the same position as the trigger so anything that moves the trigger would move the safety.

>>32317962
its lighter than the trigger so when the gun drops it will hit the stop before the trigger and stop the gun from discharging, it is smaller than the trigger and shorter so if the trigger snags on something like your holster or pocket it won't go off.

maybe you need that, maybe you don't but to say its pointless isn't really appropriate.

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>>32316060
>organic soup
>communal stove

>>32314234
>organic vegetarian
>>32316060
>communal stovetop
I say this with no irony or reservation; kill yourself.

>>32314644

Seeing as Glockleg is a thing, it singularly fails at preventing that.

>>32318112
because you know how many ND never happened because of the safety?


you can prove a negative? im impressed.

i just imagine people like OP looking at a gun safety and immediately asking if they're being detained.

>>32312649
The point is so that it's less likely that if something snags the trigger that it will result in an ND.

>>32313964
That doesn't make sense. The Glock is a striker fired gun aka no hammer to fall if dropped. You have to push the trigger all the way to pull back the striker, so that couldn't happen if it's dropped

>>32312642
>>32312649
Its a drop safety, really. The trigger and the safety don't rotate around the same axis, so there are two directions force needs to be applied to release the safety and the trigger. A drop cannot do this.

>>32314234
>if it's accidental, no.
How do you pull the trigger accidentally?

Seriously. Help me understand: You draw your gun. You point your gun. You put your finger on the trigger. You haven't taken the safety off yet. To prevent accidents.

I gotta tell you, if your safety isn't off by the time you put your finger on the trigger, you're doing it wrong. Trigger safety is probably the best possible place for it.

>>32314234
> if it's accidental, no.

If you're worried about accidentally pulling the trigger, you shouldn't be putting your finger on it in the first place.

I think it's funny that we put a miniature trigger on the actual trigger.
>To activate the gun, press the trigger.
>To activate the trigger, press the miniature trigger.

Fucking why. It's like having tits with a miniature tit on it. It's like having nipples. Mom

>>32319975
>Its a drop safety, really.
No, you are wrong. The drop safety is within the slide, visible from underneath the slide when slide is removed from frame. It's that little button thing that you can press in. It's like a little metal nipple poking out of the bottom of the slide. That is the drop safety.
When the trigger is being pulled, the trigger bar presses up on that little drop safety pin, which moves it out of the way so that the firing pin can move forward, into the primer of the chambered round. Literally it's called the drop safety plunger. The trigger safety isn't called the drop safety because it isn't the actual drop safety. The drop safety is the drop safety. That safety on the trigger is called the trigger safety. Or safe action trigger. But not the drop safety, because nipple on bottom of slide. You get me bruh?

>>32312642
I was under the impression that the trigger safety was added to comply with U.S. importation laws.

>>32312642
The point of a safety is that the weapon only fires when you want it to fire, you fucking retard.

>>32321774
In fact, just google "BATF Point System" and you'll see that one of the prerequisites for importation is a 'Positive Manually Operated Safety Device".
I wager ole Gaston didn't even give a fuck about safeties.

>>32321728
>>32321750
>>32321774
Isn't it just to make the gun safer for cops used to double action revolvers with heavy trigger pulls? The gun avoids having a manual safety but is less likely to discharge if something gets caught in the trigger.

>>32321908
It's doubtful, as I have mentioned earlier, safeties are required for guns to be imported into the U.S.
So, Glock sends their pistols over in this jenky configuration to comply with the BATF point system, (Serrated triggers, Click adjustable sights, a 'safety'.) refits them to be sold on the market and ships them out.
Also, Glock used to get a lot of flak for their pistols being 'unsafe' and all of this other bullshit, so they heavily market their 'Safe-Action Triggers' to assuage fears.

>>32314132
I like this guy.

I'd have a glass of whiskey with you, friendo.

>>32314132

Oh look, somebody who actually knows what in the fuck he's talking about.

>>32321824
>>32321933
>>32321774
OP here, this is an interesting point.

/k/ can't seem to agree on whether it's a safety to prevent accidental trigger pulls or part of the drop safety though. maybe it does nothing deliberately, for the importation reason?

>>32320353
there are holsters that rip the sights out, so its not unfathomable that one might hook the trigger or something

accidents happen. thats why real guns have safeties.

>>32322802
isn't that what the trigger guard is for tho

>>32314132
Holy shit, someone with common sense. Cheers.

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>>32314132

>>32322915
fair enough, even if that's staged as fuck

that trigger safety looks awfully depressed though

>>32322915
>shitty leather holster
found your problem

i might email glock to ask them y tho

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All these dumb fucks think they know better than Gaston Glock

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>>32325499
aint nobody makes glocks like Gastonnn

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and now we wait

>>32327687
he actually did it, the absolute madman

They don't get much more simpler than a fucking Glock, maybe guns as a hobby isn't 4u

>>32328404
i jammed my mauser if it makes you feel better

idk i think the casings were a bit longer, it didnt like that kind of ammo versus the kind i used initially

>>32325499
The man made curtain rods for a living. It's not like he's Stoner or Browning.

>>32321750
That's a firing pin block, you retard.

A FPB ensures that the pin doesn't drop on the primer unless the trigger is pulled. The trigger safety ensures that the trigger doesn't move if the gun drops.

Different things.

>>32321933
>o, Glock sends their pistols over in this jenky configuration to comply with the BATF point system
Nonsense. The first prototypes of klok had trigger safeties, and euro kloks have them too.

>>32333701
>they call it a klock because it's a ticking time bomb

>>32318112
>Glockleg
>t. people who the trigger pull weight was just too much for them
FTFY.

Get better trigger discipline you fucking mongoloid

>>32312850
>BAAAAAAAAAM