Could an EU-China alliance take on a US-Russia one in WW3? What

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>>32310822
>Russia siding against china.

>>32310822
who's that lady and why is she talking like she leads Germany?

or is germany a country of nu-males who need some school marm telling them what to do

>>32310822
I expect nothing from Cucked Germany&Europe.

>>32310830
Today Alliances are purely economical my friend the ideology bullshit is long gone thank god...

Also Russia-China Relation is not so good as we think.

>>32310839
German is a dead country as the whole Europe.
>Be European
>In 20 years dead from:
>Muslims turn it into a Islamic State
>Or Birth rates of a fucking Panda

>>32310822
you're an idiot
stop playing C and C generals

>>32310857
The EU is cosying up to China and vice versa and obviously you have Trump's pro-Russia views. The globalists will probably flee the US, go to Europe and try to start an alliance with China for cannon fodder against the nationalists.

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>>32310839
She is the next Hitler.

>>32310822
>Could an EU-China alliance take on a US-Russia one in WW3?
EU-China-Russia couldn't take on the US.

No.

Russia - USA is basically Vegeta + Goku.

It is imperative that USA defends EU, the bastion of Freedom and Equality. Although it is within reason that Americans may die in combat, they should remember that they fought for the defense of what is good and just.

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>>32310822
I want this so bad. After we BTFO chyna, we can liberate yurop from the mudslimes, faggots, and cucks.

>>32311020
>Russia - USA is basically Vegeta + Goku
The US being Goku, right?

>>32310822
China-EU don't have much chances even if Russia started choking.

>>32310822
>tfw US bases all over Europe
>yfw we've already broken their lines
Or they're simply surrounded by the enemy if such events were to happen

>>32310830
china is fucking russia more and more. and relations weren't even that good back in cold war.
you need to forget this "communist vs capitalist" or what ever we call that nowdays.
Vietnam is now siding with the US.

>>32310830
>literally doesn't know about the russo-sino conflicts during the cold war

In the event of the balloon going up, it was understood by the US that China would nuke russia.

US was still going to nuke china on general principle though.

>>32310822
China lacks a command structure (this is a safeguard against coups), I'm sure as hell that they couldn't even take Vladivostok

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>>32310822

Good thread Goyim, yes fight each other. I'm sure the banks can lend to both sides.

>>32310822
Biggest navy and airforce in the world and biggest armored army in the world vs EU cucked nu-males and China known for underperforming military.
>Oh and 90+% of fucking nukes on one side.
Hard to figure it out huh

>>32310822
Europeans are unhappy about their leadership, they won´t fight for them in a war like that. A lot of people sympathize with Putin & Trump.

>>32310997
>Merkel stepping in to lead the world
>Merkel
>lead the world

Kek. Germany hasn't been a true power since 1941 when the war turned south for them and resulted in a collapse of both fronts.

Most likely if she tried anything thing she would be taken out and Germany co-opted by the Russians.

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>>32311638
True.
A war with Russia would pretty much end in the population rebelling. Absolutely no one would fight against the Russians.
Considering, that a lot of the army is basically Russians now, a lot of people would probably even fight for Russia.

>>32311823
Forgot the
t. German

>>32311319
Yes, Vegeta has a little power but he uses it well, he's the anti-hero, but Goku is the good guy.

I will personally fight against the EU-China alliance from inside.

>>32310822
Are you forgetting nato anon?

Sounds like you're forgetting nato.

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>>32311244
We're tired of your shit. Defend yourselves, cucks.

>>32311823
>based Polan

>>32311823
I guarantee a lot of brain dead boomers participated in that poll
>m-muh cold war isn't over
Can't wait till those faggots die off and we can take care of business with china.

>>32311823
>no one would fight against the russians

Where did this meme come from?

>>32311244
Yeah, try not to choke on that globalist cock you faggot shill.

>>32312122
Dead hand

>>32312140
God, Russian nuclear doctrine, literally the dumbest shit that nearly killed half the planet.

>>32311244
You can burn in hell for all I care.

>>32310822
Never. EU is imploding in slow motion and China needs the US consumer base to remain a relevant nation.

>>32313822
>EU is imploding in slow motion

Nice meme

>>32310822
>US-Russia
Stopped reading right then and there.

>>32311522
Their massive military also has no real means of supplying itself outside their boarders. The Chinese are a paper tiger that desperately need a navy to function.

>>32313829
Germany is literally the only EU country that isn't experiencing a massive right wing surge. England is out for all intents and purposes and every country not named France has zero military capabilities.

It's dying Jim, time to let go.

>>32310857
But C&C Generals is a great game.

>>32310830

Russia and Asian countries have a long history of wars

Russia and the US, with all its Cold War shit, have rarely fired an actual shot at one another

>>32313868

Germany is going to kick of another world war.

Count on it.

It'll invade the nearby European countries due to "humanitarian reasons" because of the coming Muslim purge.

Fucking Germans.

>>32313948

>Be 1914
>Krauts try to take over Europe
>Be 1939
>Krauts try to take over Europe
>Be 1970s
>Communist terrorists based in Germany terrorize Europe
>Be 20XX
>Krauts import Jihadis by the million in order to destroy Europe

What is it with these fucking people?

>>32312122
Why should we fight honestly? For Merkel? For Estonia? Our collapsing state?
Absolutely nobody would really risk their life for any of them.

>>32310997
Great, have at it. Let Germany build bases and take up the monetary aid and support of all these pissant little countries. Im more than happy the withdraw the US military from many parts of the world

>>32314067
You know I wasn't sure whether you meant USA or Germany when you said collapsing state, but I suppose both are true in their own ways.

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>>32314126
Dont worry. Were first

>>32310839
>this could have been America
Lol

>>32313868
>>32313948
Fuck Merkel

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>>32314045
>mfw germany imported all those rapefugees without asking blighty first

>>32313948
Can I enlist as an American to kill mudslimes? I don't speak German.

>>32314045
Germany has been destroying Europe since before they even had a nation. Look to Rome to see the great German genius.

>alliance with China at all
NO

>>32310822
No, its that simpe.
Both the US and Russia could take europe on their own in a few month.
Also there is only one country with nukes left in the EU, and this might leave in 2017

>>32314045
Some people just want to watch the world burn, my dude.

>>32313841
well, a tiger that can bite if you stick your hand in it's cage.

>>32314045
Don't forget, communism was invented by Germans, and Germans destroyed both the Roman Republic and later the Roman Empire.

No. Espically considering we already have established bases around the EU, and the fact that most EU nations could give a fuck less about their militaries in the first place.

Even if the EU decided to jump ships with China the US would see a build up and put a stop to it real quick. Possibly even swaying some EU nations back to their side.

China is a bigger threat in this scenario.

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Just like the good ol days.

Also is she hoping for China's help in liberating Europe from the GLA or something?

>>32311940
NATO has been a hot garbage mess for years, ever since the Bosnian War. Most East Euro countries would rather die than side with a coalition that bombed the fuck out of a shitpoor country.

Russia and the US need to just create the "Article Circle Compact", and fucking force the weakfuck globalist Euros to do their fucking part.

>>32310822

Oh fuck no. Europe is almost entirely dependent on the US for military support and China can barely maintain shit within it's own borders. The whole conflict would last all of 4 minutes.

>>32310822
Anglo-Russia Alliance when?

>>32316091
woops "Arctic* Circle Compact"

>>32316144
41'-45'.

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>>32310997

>Russia+USA
Overkill.

>>32311253
Remember the bug planet, Vegeta?

>>32316091
Most of Eastern European countries are already members, you fucking retard:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO#Vilnius_Group

>>32316406
About time for a sequel then.

>>32310822
>the rest of the world versus the US
MAYBE then you'll have a chance

>>32310822
Given that the UK is leaving the EU and that nukes are a thing it'd be over in minutes. No UK leaves France as the only nation with offensive capability and the only nation in the alliance with a blue water navy. Can't win a war with defence alone.

>>32310997
Where the fuck do these assholes get off?

>>32310997
I highly doubt she'll reinvest in the military, fund wild and crazy secret tech, remove undesirables, and make germany great again

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>>32310997
>And, less than three decades later, they are back to their old tricks.
>insidious, petty, presumptuous, cowardly.
>They have mistaken kindness for weakness yet again.

>Never forget the past.
>Or risk repeating history.

>>32310997
>With the election of Donal Trump, America has now abdicated that role
I think this guy has started believing his own propaganda - he's getting high on his own supply!

>>32311823
>france ready to surrender
>shitally

At least I can understand, that United German Emirates won't want to waste their brooms and flying carpets on Russian climate, after their last experience.

>>32312115
>>m-muh cold war isn't over
It isn't over. It never really ended, there was merely a hiatus during the '90s

>>32316559
>tfw Nappa let you read one of his unpublished screenplays and it blew Nolan's capeshit out of the water
Nappa is the king of kino IMO

>>32312122
The election. Trump said Russia is our friend and Putin is a great guy.

So now it's always been the truth.

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>>32310822

France, you need to come back to our side - you might have white flags, but we don't want you to sacrifice your peps to the soulless globalists. Together with Russia and the Anglosphere, we shall make Earth great again!

>>32317471
Not even that, since most of the world's countries won't even be able to reach the US in fighting condition. Best case scenario would be another Russian-Japanese war, but for most of the countries soldiers won't even get to leave their own little desert or jungle village.

Only Russia and the EU really have global reach, even China is questionable in this regard. And they don't have a chance against the US. It's pathetic really that a country that's practically invincible keeps losing one war after the other.

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>USA+Russia vs EU+China
So USA+Russia vs China and a couple of retards flailing sticks?

And I'd love to watch this go down, it sounds like it'd be some great banter. Just let us leave first.

Who knows, some of my Russian heritage may kick in and tell me to go join in the fight.

>>32311447

Its not that. Its because Russia and China have been cooperating a lot in regards to trying to counter US dominance in the world. And the two countries back each other up in the UN. Like how china supports Russia in Crimea. Not to mention all the trade that goes on between the two. i really don't see why Russia would ever want to war with China.

Both support Iran, and Iran, Hezbollah, and Assad in the middle-east is opposed to israel and Saudi Arabia, americas allies. So in this way Russia and China are indirectly fighting a proxy cold-war against america in the middle-east.

I bet Russia is supporting all these far right groups in Europe. Russia is trying to tear up NATO and the EU. Supposedly was involved with getting trump elected. And you can bet is trying to get Turkey to leave NATO and join up with Russia.

Meanwhile China is building up a trade empire in Africa and in the process of getting around US dominated pacific shipping.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Belt,_One_Road

Russia and china won;t go to war because they are both high-fiving each other in their fights against America and western Europe. Both Russian and Chinese officials held parties when trump was elected

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>Could an EU-China alliance take on a US-Russia one in WW3?

Man, that'd be one hell of a war...

a much more likely scenario would be Western Europe splitting into EU and anti-EU camps. And a trade war going on between the two.

Which would disrupt American economy really badly and sent America into an economic crisis. But not a civil war so much as a trade war within America as states take sides against each other.

All the while China and Russia are laughing as they become the worlds new leaders.

With the end of TPP.

USA just went into a new phase of isolationism.

>>32321586
>>32321631
*continued

I'd be concerned over a 'syria' event inside europe. If France takes the anti-EU side, the Europe is essentially divided into France and Germany teams. And It could be bad if a civil war happens in one European country (Greece seems the likely candidate) the other euros in their trade war would pick sides.

You know things are looking grim for Europe right now. I'd say there is a chance of a Franco-German murder-fuck-fest.

Russia and china would side with the anti-EU faction, and america would likely side with the pro-Eu faction. That could see relations between the UK and US deteriorate.Since Brexit would put the UK in the anti-EU camp.

At least immigration to Europe would stop and reverse.

>>32321607
It would indeed be the greatest thing to happen in human history.

>>32310830
>implying chino-Soviet relations in the cold war

>>32311020
So Russia kicks the Shit out of America then America's pals beat the weakened Russia?

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>>32310822
Russia is utterly dependent on the EU and China to sell it's only worthwhile trade good to (Gas and Oil).

And it's utterly dependent on the EU and China to provide foodstuffs, high tech goods and cheap consumer that it's incapable of producing itself.

You lot spend so much time jerking off over your strong leader fetish that you completely lose sight over how the world actually worse.

>>32318190

Yep. The complete lack of scrutiny faced by Obama is truly staggering. His administration has been outplayed or refused to take a leadership role internationally for eight years.

This shit boils down to pissed off losers frothing at the mouth, pushing any incoherent thought they can out for the rest of the losers to hoist up.

>>32310849
> blame this on the superior Muslims and women that don't wanna bang you

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EU and which army?

The Bundeswehr is a giant fucking mess with only 8 hours a day of operating time. Any minute more and it goes against the law. Mandatory breaks.

I guess the UK and France could hold out for a bit until chinese plastic copy AKs arrive. But USA and Russia would just bomb the shit out of Europe and then bumrush the entire fucking place.

Not like I would mind. I welcome our new Overlord Trumputin.

>>32314067
You fight so you don't die or become a slave.

You'll fight, but you'll be forced to and have no weapons. Sad state of affairs you government put you in.

>>32322518
TPP was a briliant way of reducing China's growing influence.

And Trump kills it for the delusion of returning jobs in the manufactoring jobs.
The same guy who bought cheap Chinese steel for his buildings and outsourced jobs to Mexico.

>>32311010
>EU-China-Russia couldn't take on the US.
They definitely could.

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>>32310822
If the EU were to stop their completely unjustified jihad against Russia, then it should be EU-USA-Russia vs China

>>32310822
Lol

It's only a matter of time until the Germans get bored and try to ruin the world again

>>32321650
>Trump is going to start WWIII!
>Trump is going to make America isolationist!

Which is it?

>>32310997
>juweit

>>32310830
Russia and China have hated each other since the sixties

>>32311829
>Implying Vegeta isn't cooler and better than goku
>Or that Russia is better than the us you dirty vatnik

>>32321693
>and america would likely side with the pro-Eu faction

not under President Trump it would

>>32311244
>eh resident

May you bathe in nuclear fire as a blessing once your countries are destroyed.

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>>32318051
>They have mistaken kindness for weakness yet again.

Looks like the strudelniggers need their asses stomped again, I just hope britan is up for it

>>32321650
even if that were true, what exactly is so bad about isolationism?

>>32323075
The world is too interconnected by now through globalization, there is no going back

Nation states will eventually need to be dissolved altogether, the world is much smaller now

>>32323075
Because other nations decide the rules.

>>32323022
Yeah, the eighteen sixties.

>>32310997
>Germany tries to rule the world once
>17 million people die
>Germany tries to rule the world a second time
>60 million people die
>Germany tries to rule the world a third time
>Inevitable death is seen as the better alternative to orange wall man

>>32322616
>TPP was a briliant way of reducing China's growing influence.
And our own sovereignty while we're at it.
Who actually wants to be in control of their own government though, right?

>>32323545
Sovereignty is meaningless now, we're all humans living on this Earth

Borders are irrelevant

>>32323545
>And our own sovereignty while we're at it.

Do you even know that TPP is?

>>32318192
>France caring about NATO

>>32323545
I know I certainly don't want to see America's shitty copyright and patent laws shipped all over the world.

>>32323585
Multilateral trade agreement which also allows for multilateral conflict resolution, which also at the same time allows private organizations to hold sovereign governments accountable for any loss in profit, regardless of the laws of that country.

>>32323599
>which also at the same time allows private organizations to hold sovereign governments accountable for any loss in profit

No

>>32323579
Have fun being a corporate slave.

>>32323609
>hurr
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/business/trans-pacific-partnership-seen-as-door-for-foreign-suits-against-us.html?_r=0

>>32323618
I for one look forward to our cyberpunk future

>>32323625
>But as long as a government treats foreign and domestic companies in the same way, defenders say, it should not run afoul of the trade provisions. “A government that conducts itself in an unbiased and nondiscriminatory fashion has nothing to worry about,” said Scott Miller, an international business expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, who has studied past cases. “That’s the record.”

It's the entire premisse of a free trade deal.

>>32323647
You're very selective with what you read, aren't you?
I hope you also realize that statement doesn't actually contradict the claim I was making.

>>32321650

>No shit-tier trade deals that kill our economy
>isolationism

Pick one, cuccboi.

>>32311244
Couldnt give less of a shit if mudslimes cuckfuck the Eu into submission.

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>>32310997
Lets see the Krauts go 0-3. I dream of this

>>32310822

The EU is not a country. The answer is no.

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>>32323579
>A world with no borders

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>UK sides with US-Russia
>eastern euro states buddy up with NATO masters
>France doesn't get involved
>china left shackled to all the lazy anti-war EU members with over-armed girl scout troops for millitaries against RUSNATO

gl with that lads :^)

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>>32310997

Merkel and whose army? How many divisions has she got?

>>32310997
holy shit i could only hope this is the case. can you imagine if here in america we got to keep all the money thats sent overseas? we could have gold plated fucking streets, new bridges, new parks better public healthcare, etc in the end who gives a fuck what hapens in syria,iran,north korea i sure as fuck don't glass it for all i care. i hope trump brings on a new age of American isolationist prosperity were they dont need fear mongering to sell millions of dollars of arms and decrease our freedoms

China doesn't seem like it would even be that much of a threat if we hadn't elected puppet leader Obama and played appeasement with China for 10 years. Russia seems like all it wants is the old Russian territories back. The only reason Germany is siding with China is because they are a weak nation who will capitulate to anyone for the counter-valued hogwash of Free Market and Free Trade combined with an (un)healthy dose of Welfare state and demographic suicide.

>>32323695
Pixy was right

>WW3 involving multple great powers

Nukes fly, war's over, everyone's busy collapsing.

>>32321693
>I'd say there is a chance of a Franco-German murder-fuck-fest.

Nah, we've all had enough of those after the last two times. Same goes for the Brits doing anything but staying well clear.

France isn't going to go anti-EU any time soon ouside of dumb /pol/ memes that seriously don't get the French and how the 5th Republic is systematically set up to fuck fringe populists out of any chance to get into power. De Gaulle fucking hated nationalist/facist and communist populists both and rigged the game against them. Last time a fringe party made it to the last round of the presidential elections, Le Pen's daddy got stomped 82-18 by Chirac. Protest votes don't carry you in the french presidential elections - they will at best get you into the second-round runoff, at which point the protest voters will have sent their message and either leave or vote against you.

>>32323983
What the fuck is it with every Democratic system being designed to fuck populist votes?

>Populist system
>But with a bunch of rules to make sure populism never wins

Return to monarchy when?

Damn, a lot of /pol/ cuckery leaking in this thread

Why is everyone so pro Russia out of nowhere??

>2016
>conservatives DEFENDING Russia

Considering Russia is so great
>limited freedom of press
>religious orthodox oligarchy
>shit-disturber as leader
>faltering economy and society

>>32324031
Because populism is a really fucking bad idea overall, and especially in the long run. Populist strategies are great for getting a load of dumb and/or angry people riled up to ride you into power. They're also completely poisonous to the politial process and good governance in the long run. The rule of thumb is simple - if you vote a populist into power, you will get one of or a combination of the following: A fraud, a tyrant and/or an incompetent. Incidentally, that's also the options sorted from least to most harmful for the nation.

Populism is how you get things like the Jacobin's Reign of Terror started. Or how you fuck over your nation the way Venezuela did with Chavez. Or how to literally get Hitler into power.

It just doesn't end well. Ever.

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>>32314045

>>32324116
>Considering Russia is so great
>>limited freedom of press
>>religious orthodox oligarchy
>>shit-disturber as leader
>>faltering economy and society


Also they're multicultural as fuck. I don't understand where the whole meme of Russia is 100% white came from.

>>32324116
>But they're the saviors of the white race!

>>32313934
>Russia and the US, with all its Cold War shit, have rarely fired an actual shot at one another

They didn't engage each other directly because of MAD. Meanwhile they had proxy conflicts all over the globe.

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>>32310997
Wew fucking lad

>>32324116
"If you're worried about Russia, you're playing the politics of 10 years ago."

t. Obama during the 2012 election

>>32310997
Why can't Germany stop starting world wars?

>>32324181
>I don't understand where the whole meme of Russia is 100% white came from.
As screwed up as they are they're better than the US on that front for now.

>>32318192
France has a strong case of USSR nostalgia due to communism deep rooting each and errything since 1945 (still goes heavily)
is essentially what there is to see, here
t. French

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>>32311319

>>32310822
The US Navy is almost three times as big as the Russian and Chinese Navies combined. Nobody will ever be able to defeat the United States without defeating the US Navy. And the US Navy could take on every other nation on earth and win. Especially if Trump adds another 100 ships to the fleet.

>>32312160
No, it effectively saved the lives of every European nation for the latter half of the twentieth century.

>>32311546
Back to /pol/ with you, cocknuckles

>>32316023
Communism was invented by (((germans)))

>>32324116
There's been a lot of /pol/ leaking into /k/ in general lately. Mods need to step up their game and ban more stormcucks.

>>32324031
Democracy is too important to be left to the voters.

>>32310997
>The free world
>Can't get abortions in some states
>Can't open carry in some states
>Prostitution is illegal
>Drugs are illegal
>Online censorship
>Can't own full auto weapon
>Controlled by the juice and the elites
>FREE WORLD

Fucking kill this faggot please

>>32326214
>Democracy is too important to let people vote

Why even bother being a democracy then?

>Russian breaking long term strategic alignment with China over some orange guy who might get impeached

Is this about some pipe dream of taking about Istanbul like I saw on /pol/ for months? Because Flynn sucks Turk dick quite heavily.

>>32325998
>And the US Navy could take on every other nation on earth and win.

About as well as the IJN could take on the US Navy in 1941. Incidentally, your psot is about as arogant and deluded as the Japs were back then.

>>32326625
My god are you full of shit. For one thing, the actual Japanese commanders never thought that the war could be won. Defeating the US was never seen as a realistic option. The objective was to do enough damage to make the US decide it wasn't worth it to meddle in Japanese affairs. What they didn't count on (despite Yamamoto's attempts to explain it to them) was that the US would take Pearl Harbor as a deep personal insult, and refuse to accept anything but unconditional surrender.

Furthermore, the Japanese lacked the ability to support their Navy. They ultimately lost the war because the US was an industrial powerhouse that could replace ships faster than the Japs could sink them. The Japanese had a decently large fleet, but without much in the way of native natural resources or industry, they couldn't maintain it. The US can, and we can expand our Navy even more during wartime. We also have a far greater fleet to begin with than they did. The US has 10 Supercarriers in service now, and once the two new Ford Class ships are completed we'll have 12. The Chinese have one aircraft carrier that they don't even have the aircraft to launch from, and the Russians have only one operational carrier, with poverty ramps. They're building a new one, but it will replace the current carrier so the overall fleet size will not change. As for the yurocucks, they have one CATOBAR carrier thanks to France, and three with poverty ramps. The Bongs are building two new carriers which they claim are supercarriers, but still have poverty ramps. Helicopter carriers don't count.

Even once the new Bong carriers are completed, the US will have 12 Supercarriers to a hypothetical yuro-russo-sinese alliance's 8 carriers, only one of which is actually a CATOBAR carrier. And unlike these other nations, the US has the capability to replace lost carriers.

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I was really excited for this thread. I saw the title while I was doing my Arabic homework and even as I was conjugating fucking masDars and painstakingly working out plural forms it was in the back of my mind. I envisioned a scenario ten years down the line where you have a Europe that massively upped military spending and instituted a permanent standing army with an integrated command structure. The key variable in this whole war was Europe-could this united continent stand the first few months of war against Russia and the U.S. long enough to present a genuine second front, thus allowing China to mobilize its industrial base enough to begin driving back hostile advances? Would the U.S. maintain enough force South and West of Europe to provide a hail of cruise missiles and strike aircraft supporting an Eastern advance of T-90s and T-14s? How do Carrier groups in the Mediterranean and South China seas fare? IS the F-35 better than the Eurofighter and Rafael?

This thread could have been every silly /k/ discussion wrapped into one glorious orgy of military wankery, and instead you fuckers chose to shitpost about fucking race politics. Fuck this board, it's been an absolute shithole since the election. I'm going to bed.

>>32327193
Agreed. I some people need to get more hypothetical and stop being like 'lel a russia liking a trump? no' This thread isnt about Trump or the government of Russia, its about militaries and war.

>>32310822
>EU
>Military

That's a good joke

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>>32321508
>mfw I hate vatniks so fucking much
>mfw I also hate Merkel and the socialist powers of Europe
>mfw I don't know how to react as Icelandic or Ukrainian

>>32326341
Exactly

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>>32327352
Side with those who love you for who you are, comrade!