Why didn't the Hi-Power ever catch on in America like

>>32291105
Because Americans aren't faggot europoors settling for a cuck gun that only exists because ungrateful euroshits didn't want to pay for an American patent.

Nowadays, no self-respecting gun owner would even touch the hand fedora that is the Browning Hi-Power. Let's not forget it's associated with the biggest losers and cucks on the 20th century.

>>32291163
Belgians are the biggest cucks and losers of the 20th century?

>>32291183
>get steamrolled twice
>suck dick for help twice
>lose ALL colonies to a bunch of nignogs
>now overrun with shitskins, terrorists, and cucked multi-culti terrorist enablers

No country that used the browning hi power is relevent, strong, or respected today.

>>32291183
Are they a real country?

>>32291105

If I had to guess it would be because when it was first produced it was still overshadowed largely by the 1911's popularity

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Because Americans think a marginally bigger bullet moving at noticeably slower speed means STOPPIN POWAH, and have thought so since the 40s when they started to subconsciously associate it with killing Nazis. If it was chambered in .45 it would have spread like hotcakes. If they had made a .46 ACP that had velocities of 300FPS that shit would be the only gun on the market today.

>>32291207
http://zapatopi.net/belgium/

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Shit trigger.

>>32291226
But why?

>>32291105

1911 is meme tier anyway.

Probably has something to do with trade restrictions, patents, tooling being set up specifically for different weapons and new designs, and it seems like 9x19 didn't catch on in a big way for a few decades in America until glocks got popular.

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>>32291163
MACV SOG, SEALs, Green Berets and Air America pilots used the T-series BHP a lot in Vietnam and loved it more than the 1911. In Afghanistan and Iraq contractors used the BHP as often as the Glock.

FBI HRT used the BHP in the 80s, and the guys loved them so much when they went back to the 1911s a lot of the men held onto to them. Of course, the Clinton administration took them away and had them melted down because they had done the switch to 1911s and didn't want them taking up space/didn't want to sell them to the public.

>>32293136

Because once one thing gets popular other things that do the same task even if arguably better will often be ignored because people won't stop circle jerking about the original object in question. The bottom line is unless object 2 is some revolutionary piece of technology that absolutely and unquestionably blows object 1 out of the water, object 1 will remain popular. If object 2 does accomplish this it's still not guaranteed to catch on because it needs to be highly proliferated/affordable/endorsed by some popular entity. Checking off all those boxes object 2 assumes the role of object 1 in the market place.

>>32291206
>Australia
>Brazil
>Canada
>China
>France
>India
>Israel
>Nazi Germany
>Nigeria
>Pakistan
>Poland
>Rhodesia
>Saudi Arabia
>Turkey
>U.K.
>U.S.

>not relevant, strong, respected, or all three

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>>32293254
>>U.S.

Did you read the OP?

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>>32291105
>tfw live in a tiny midwest town with one gun shop and an Academy
>tfw never even seen a BHP in person
Why even live???

>>32293296
Referring to military use

>>32293299
Buy one. Have your gunshop transfer it for you.

Love it the rest of your life and leave it to your descendants.

>>32291163
>>32291183
>tfw I wish John M. Browning's spirit could curse people from beyond the grave

>>32291183
Nigel Farage considers them a non-country, I'm inclined to agree. Just an EU state at this point, should have just been absorbed into France after ww1

.45>9mm
Don't use anything smaller than .45 ACMeme for maximum killing power

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>>32296096
forgot pic

>>32291105
I don't like the 1911 just because I don't like how it looks aesthetically
the browning is actually acceptable and I like it for that reason

now if I could just find a good deal for one and I might buy one.

>>32296144
Wrong

>>32296241
hi

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>>32291105
Because the US Government is cheap and they didnt feel the need to switch to the Hi-Power or any other "more modern" handgun until the M9 trials came around. IMO the 1911 should have been replaced before Vietnam. The US was so hell bent on getting everyone in NATO on the same shit in the late 50s. It would have been a perfect time for them to say "Well all of our NATO allies use 9mm and these 1911s are getting pretty old. Lets adopt the BHP or something like it" Would be sort of interesting to see what the M9 trials would look like if the new M9 was replacing a BHP instead of the 1911.

>tfw there will never be a BHP that has UNITED STATES PROPERTY on it

>>32291105
because, most civilian arms in the united states have some history as a MILITARY arm FIRST, the 1911 is a perfect example, it was a military staple firearm for almost 60 years, millions of service men were trained on, fought with, and even kept their 1911 during various wars, the hi power did not receive a military version, for teh most part because it did not meet teh military requirements at the time,

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>>32296096
Don't listen to this glass wristed pussy. Don't use anything under 700 Nitro Express for maximum memeing power.

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>>32291105
the 1911 had a lot of heritage behind it
>prohibition/organized crimes
>ww1
>ww2
>all the cold wars
>standard sidearm for military
>still used by spec ops until recently
>some LEOs and government agencies still use it
its hard to beat a classic. We had such a hard on for revolvers for decades as well

>>32293133
I never shot a 1911.
How does the trigger compare to S&W double action revolvers (in single action of course)?

>>32296369
But anon, BHP cannot into 9mm NATO.

The Hi-Power is too spicy for .45 cucks

>>32296403
700 nitro RIP rounds sound pretty dope

>>32291163
John Browning was never happy with the 1911. It had two safeties and the US government's insistence on .45 left it with a puny magazine capacity for its size. There's a reason the hi-power was at one point the most common handgun in the world, and it's not just because it was used by Great Britain when we still ruled most of it.

>>32298245
This.

The Hi-Power was designed to be better in every way and the successor to the 1911.

>>32296110
>.380, 9mm, .38, .357 are all the same caliber
>.40 and 10mm are the same caliber
Come back when you understand the difference between cartridge and caliber.

9mm as a cartridge did not become popular in America until comparatively recently, which makes sense when you consider that it was invented in Europe to begin with.

>>32298315
9mm in the U.S. really took off starting in the early 1980's

Friendly reminder that the hi power is literally a response to everything wrong with the 1911

>bad trigger

Take out the mag disconnect panzy, it takes 5 minutes

>>32296291
power

My understanding is that for a gun to become truly prolific in the states, it must at some point get bought in bulk by the government.

>>32296687
1911s vary in trigger quality. A good S&W trigger will be better than most though.
>>32296706
What?

>>32291163
Most of the 1911 patents were expired by the time Saive release the BHP, and the BHP is superior to the 1911 on every point.

>>32291105
>9mm
>Before 1970
It truly was shit back then, anon. A lot of it was build out of spec, under powered, etc, and reliable hollow points just weren't a thing until, like, the 60's, by which time police and civilians were so ingratiated with revolvers that 9mm didn't have a chance. Hell, even after reliable 9mm's starting being made by the thousands in the 80's they still came out with the .40 because 9mm was still shit.

Even now 9mm is only better than .40 if you're using bottom bitch loads. .40 el-cheapos > 9mm el cheapos

>>32293254
The US never used the High power, and none of those countries are relevant anymore.

>>32299345
Depends on a lot of stuff. 1911's got big because Americana my son they are a pop culture icon, plus everyone's Grandpa trained with one back in the military. Nowadays the civilian market can drive their own trends, but following big production contracts isn't uncommon. The gun market in the USA is so interesting because we are the last real one in the world and the whole industry reflects that.

>>32291163
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>>32291163
>>32291105

BHP has a 15 or 20 round capacity just like the Beretta. Its essential to get a hammer replacement but otherwise its a slim accurate pistol. Hard to ask for more than that.

>>32296369

for the OP, its probably this reason


>>32296110
>>32296096
>>32291229

Actually I was hoping the .50 GI would have taken off or even had a more reliable increase in firepower.

7 rounds fits in an 8 round m1911 magazine

Its like taking a 50 AE and putting a more standard load of powder behind it. But even amping it up to 357 magnum levels would have been a good medium.

Combine this with Supercavitating rounds or even Wadcutters and thats like being hit with a shotgun slug.

1000fps with 300 grains isnt bad but more importantly the bearing surface on the front of the bullet is going to carry a hell of alot of meat out the other side with it.

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>>32291163

>>32298555
nice trips dood

>>32291105
>make a great semi-automatic pistol
>shit blocky semi-automatic pistol is made
>no one wants shity knock off
>autistic screeching ensues

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Because despite being a culture obsessed with guns, Americans were and in some cases still are the biggest fudds. Most of our police forces were still using revolvers until the 80s and 90s, and by then there were much better options.

That being said I love mine. It's comfy as hell and accurate as fuck

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The 1911 is such a fun gun to shoot, and it feels wonderful in the hand.

I don't remember if I ever fired a BHP, but I would very much like to do so. If I like it, I'm going to pick one up for my humble collection.

Right now my two favorite pistols are my 1911 and USP9.

I fired a shit load of different guns in my childhood, but I don't remember a lot of them because I got out of the hobby for so long. Now that I'm firmly back into it, I'm shooting as many different guns as I can get my hands on, and buying one every month or so.

The BHP has been on my list of shit to check out for awhile now.

Front sight just broke on mine today at the range :( have to take it and get it repaired maybe get it refinished maybe not

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>>32291105
Because the Hi Power was never adopted by the US military. The 1911 is an American icon due to its long service history.

>>32291229
Sadly true. Bigger is always better in America, whether or not it actually is.

>>32298245
>>32298282
The Hi Power also had to be designed around 1911 patents. I love my Hi Power, but I have to admit the 1911's grip safety is superior to the magazine disconnect. A 1911 has a better trigger too.

Ideally, Browning would have had split the difference, having the best features of both. 1911 trigger and grip safety. BHP double stack mag and takedown.

>>32293254
>neither relevant nor respected
>none of the three
>none of the three
>chinkshit clones don't count, they'd literally steal anything. Also not respected.
>none of the three
>poo in the loo
>none of the three
>doesn't even exist any more
>none of the three
>none of the three
>none of the three
>doesn't even exist any more
>not respected or strong
>none of the three
>none of the three
>specifically by-name excluded in OP, also never used it militarily so you're just an idiot

>>32293136
.45acp was widely available, cheap, and effective.

At the time, 9x19 was not really available in the US, and didn't become so until after the Korean War nearly 40 years after the 1911 was established.

Combination of propaganda and first-person accounts of 9x19 being relatively ineffective from WW2 vets coupled with the same people overblowing how effective .45acp was.

>>32298291
>both CIP and SAAMI acknowledge caliber as both the correct way and a viable way to refer to a specific cartridge.

Caliber has about 12 possible correct and officially recognized meanings. Nobody gives even a fraction of a shit if you disagree with that, because you're wrong.

>>32291183
Belgium is NOT a real country.

>>32293296
who is this semen demon?

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>>32306930
nigga wat

>>32293383
Browning's Hi-Power was a monstrosity though. Why should he care about a design that isn't his?

>>32293299

>midwest
>academy

something doesn't add up right here

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>>32307131
Alexandra Gaier.

>>32308348
thanks

>>32293237
What are those grip plates called? They look really nice