Now that the dust has settled what is the consensus on the Eurotriangles?

I think the person that made that image doesn't actually know the particulars of those aircraft

>>32282808
I didn't actually read it to be honest I just grabbed the first thing I saw on google images that was a representation of all three aircraft.

>>32282793
>>32282808
This picture looks like something our resident Rafale-fag could have put together.

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>>32282829
Again, didn't even read it. It's just the first thing that comes up on google images when searching rafale typhoon gripen.

Shit for planes, shit for car engines, Doritos confirmed only good for getting cheese powder on everything.

>>32282793
>... with the F35 being available.

Lol

>>32282793
That picture is bullshit, and I'm a Rafale fag. The Eurofighter used for these trials was an incomplete pre-production model.

No small western country can really afford multiple aircraft types with current military spending levels, so it's a pointless question really OP. As a partner to the F-35, the Typhoon makes the most sense. They both complement each others weakest areas.

It's probably smarter to just keep buying fucking F-16s or F-18s forever unless you really feel like there's some chance you'll ever use them for anything other than bombing brown people.

>>32282808
This is nothing more than a recap of what was written in the leaked swiss evaluation.

Eurofighter

>Is there any reason for a small first world, western country to go after these with the F-35 being available?

Superior air-to-air capacities. Cheaper

>>32282793
The F35 is a turkey that cannot turn, cannot fly slow for CAS, and cannot carry enough weapons (it can if put stuff under wing pylons but then say bye bye to stealth). Finally, stealth is a meme. Old WWII radar can detect stealth planes without problems. Oh, and it's so expensive to fly that pilots have to use mostly simulators for training.

>>32285588
It takes s a special kind of stupid to believe that the Typhoon is inferior to Hornet C in air combat.

>>32287020

Here's your (You) Mr Sprey.

>>32286867
This.

Maybe have a few squadrons of expensive top tier fighters in reserve but don't waste them dropping bombs on insurgents when an F-16 can do the same job much cheaper.

>>32282793
>F-35
>available

Any country that would consider any of these, especially the Gripen, doesn't have the cash or good goy points to buy and operate the F-35. Gripen is the best out of the 3 for small countries like the Czechs and us.

t. Bulgarfag

>>32286867
>>32287087

By your reasoning, there was no point in spending all that money on weapons during the Cold War since they never got to use it against a peer.

The very fact that the USA & its allies maintain the capability of taking on and winning against any other military power is exactly why there is little risk of war against a near-peer.

Also, advanced Russian or Chinese aircraft and air defense systems will be exported capable of threatening current US 4th gen aircraft. Just look at how many updated S-300 systems have been exported in the past ten years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system#Operators_and_other_versions Exports of ever more advanced air defense systems and fighters will only increase over time.

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>>32287020

>>32286988
>Eurofighter
>Cheaper
>Ever

>>32282793
As cheap and simple-to-operate as it is, the Gripen might be worthwhile for smaller air forces on a budget. The other two are both shit compared to the similarly-priced F-35.

>>32287241
Gripe NG is like 140mil a pop.

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>>32282829
>>32282808
>>32282793
QUICK, DELET THE IMAGE!!!

YOU'VE DAMAGED THE ANGLOS !!!

>>32285588
>and I'm a Rafale fag
No you're not. Ferme ta gueule

>>32287778

He's not wrong though. It was IPA8 used in those trials, with was a dual seat (ie - Not designed for full combat spec) pre-production aircraft used by the Germans, which lacks most of the DASS, lacks many of the cockpit interfaces, lacks the ISTAR etc etc. Fuck knows what the Germans (who were leading that market) thought they were doing taking that one to it.

It was also almost a decade ago now. The planes have changed a lot since then.

>>32287815
>The planes have changed a lot since then.

Just like Germany suspended flying them because their quality is shit?

http://m.dw.com/en/germany-finds-new-problems-with-eurofighter-jets/a-18779651

>>32287854

>News literally over a year old presented as current

That'd be why they've been flying them again and taking on more deliveries since then. It's almost like thats a perfectly normal response when a fault is found, identified and then corrected or something that basically all airframes do throughout their life or something.

>>32287241
>compared to the similarly-priced F-35.
It costs more to buy and way more to operate. Stop acting as if it was comparable.

The Gripen probably has a market in very small, dirt poor, western alligned yuropoor countries. Think Slovakia, Bulgaria, Albania tier poor.

The Eurofighter and Rafale however have no reason to exist except as a way for third world countries with restive Muslim populations that either high tax revenue or high oil revenue to buy something that isn't from the US. But there's absolutely no reason a rich, or even moderately sized, western country should ever buy them over the F-35.

>>32286988
>Cheaper

>>32288251
>But there's absolutely no reason...
F35 is sold with a leash, a very expensive one. That's a good reason.

>>32288333
And yet it's still cheaper than the Rafale and Eurofighter.