Which one should Australia buy to replace the ASLAV for

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>>32271375
>Australia
>recon in force
You know what must be done.

>>32271430
Emu bait.

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The cheaper one with the bigger gun

tracked vehicles
wheels are a meme

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>>32273110
>Throw a in the middle of Australia

>>32273149
>Throw a track*

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These are all we need, armour is for shit-cunts.

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these for both phases

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>>32273309
2 of the most expensive options though.

I might choose them if they had the 35mm instead

>>32273326
well while i've not seen jack shit on the lynx, the boxer is a great vehicle and if the lynx turns out to be all that then having both would be good for commonality. also what are the other vehicles the lynx will or might be competing against?

I really hope we go with the Patria, it looks awesome

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>>32273375
Not sure about the M113 replacement phase but maybe the CV90?

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The LAV III Mk6.

>>32273669
Fuck off ameritard

A giant room lined with mattresses and pillows and just make it double illegal to attack this country.

Seriously fuck this place

>>32273716
Great post...

>>32273669
already out of the running

>>32273685
LAV III's are Canadian.

>>32271430
this is actually how I play wargame red dragon

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>>32271375
Boxer + Lynx.

>>32273326
They have 35mm now.

the one with tires
SPEED>AMOUR

>>32273867
delete this

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I wish we had a shit load of these to back up our tiny amount of infantry

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>>32273867
>>32273110
Phase 2 covers 8x8 as an ASLAV replacement.
Phase 3 will cover tracks as an M113 replacement.

Lynx, CV90 and Puma will contend at least.

>>32273669
LAV CRV didn't make the shortlist.

>>32273685
LAVs are Canadian you dumb fuck.

>>32273933
There was an ASLAV 120mm mortar variant, fell through for whatever reason.

>>32273110
Fuck you man! IEDs don't give a shit.

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Any Navyfags know when they join the multicam club?

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>>32273771
My nigga. Too bad ANZAC is fucking garbage.

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RIP.

>>32274641
The Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon Company called - they want their WW2 era design back

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>>32275104
No bully.

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>>32271375
>Rheinmetall MAN Boxer vs Patria AMV
>overpriced and over-engineered kraut space magic vs proven tech from the land of simo hayha

You best be kidding, nigga.

>>32273972
If you want to do high ground clearance tracked vehicle, you easily can

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Details.

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>>32273444

CV90 also available without turret for stuff like command and communications vehicles. Swedes also toyed with active suspension for CV90 for few years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnHtLjr1vUU

Supposed to fastest tracked combat vehicle on off road conditions.

>>32271375

Neither. You shouldn't cause consternation for your noble benefactors in Beijing. Dismantle the ADF now!

>>32275815
>command and communications vehicle
What does a vehicle like that have inside it?

>>32275878
Tea and coffee. Fresh OJ too.

>>32275878
Computers, radios and generators

>>32274206
Why do you love your belt webbing so much?

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>>32275985
yea nah ill bash ya m8

>>32276005
Not while waddling around in that shit you won't

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>>32275878
>What does a vehicle like that have inside it?

APC or IFV troop compartment and/or turret replaced with a small office.

Communications vehicle.

Radios, high speed microwave link mast, satellite phones, more electrical generating capacity, modified hydraulics system to raise the mast, better heater, better air conditioning, comfier seats, nice table for laptops, all sorts of luxuries infantry can't even dream about and lazy signalsmen playing what ever is the coolest /v/idya at any given time.

Electronic warfare vehicle.

Same as above but made to jam and locate enemy signals. Habitants are usually either fatter or skinnier than in communications backbone and too autistic to play /v/.

Command vehicles.

Command vehicle setup depend entirely entirely on what it is supposed to command. Generally radios, computers, luxuries and pissed off staff officers. Slightly different equipment for artillery regiment, infantry battalion and brigade commanders vehicles. Usually also equipped with neat folding tent that expands working area while stationary.

>>32275883

Microwave oven. Fridge loaded with pizzas, energy drinks and soda. Booze and beer if habitants are staff officers.

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Civilian version when?

>>32276005
looks like they patterned it off of testicles

is aussie camo known as Sackpat?

>>32276133
> Implying it's not Disruptive Pattern CUnt.

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>>32276133
yes

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>>32276125
Probably never

What's wrong with ASLAVs?

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>>32276495
Old, worn out, borderline obsolete.

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Boxer, even though it is the heaviest, most expensive it has reliable German tech and Australia is able to develop separate modules for it's modular chassis. A variant with NLOS ATGMs would be nice.

Best all-around protection (mines, bomblets, stanag cert)

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>>32277051
Boxer master race.

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Boxer with vertical ATGM Launcher and triple barrel 7.62mm machine gun.

>>32277984
>triple barrel 7.62

w-what?

>>32278062
Only one barrel is used until it overheats, then switches.

>>32271375

Buying any German products is supporting Islam.

Buy the Finnish product instead.

>>32278116
t. finn

Good Australian magazine for all things mil

dtrmagazine.com

>>32278100
That...that doesn't seem even remotely true. Dont get me wrong, i WANT it to be true.

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>>32278289

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>>32278289

>>32278327
>>32278100
>>32278062
>>32277984
Fucking sweet.

>>32278327
>>32278370
interesting, I wonder how that system looks internally

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>>32278254
These are really good, cheers.

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>>32278523
It's still based on the MG42/MG3, but it has a minigun-like barrel that only rotates when one barrel gets too hot

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>>32278712

>>32278687
Np, most Aussie mil magazines are pretty crap. There's only a couple of good ones out there.

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>>32278712

>>32278712

Pretty interesting and very Kraut space magic solution. Design goal is pretty obvious and if it is reliable, kinda like taking best features of both minigun and GPMG in one gun.

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>>32278712
Just don't let Blazkowicz get a hold of one or you krauts will regret it.

Why not the M1127?

>>32278370
>>32278327
well, consider me erect

>>32273811
>mfw personal ERA

>>32278712
I can feel my shell getting tighter.

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>>32280118
Spear of Destiny , Bro.

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>>32280166
Strykers are licensed LAVs.

It didn't make the shortlist along with the Terrex 3.

>>32278370
>>32278327
Its nice to be a fagot for once

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Too light? Belly exposed on both sides?

This got dropped from the contention pretty quickly. But I think as some anons said the requirements were kinda written to favour the Boxer from the start

>>32283978
We don't need more asian shit in our country, we've already got enough of them.

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Patria AMV is best AMV

>>32284262
Nah

>>32283978
Chink crap

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Pretty spooked how many shells less 35mm guns hold compared to 30mm.

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>>32283978
Not enough protection or room for growth maybe?

>>32283978
>>32287088
Probably insufficient industry experience in Australia and lack of market penetration.

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Thoughts on frigate replacement? Hoping for Type 26 myself.

>>32287137
Its probably going to be the Spanish offering.
It should really be just be ~8 more Hobarts tbqph.

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>>32287157
We need ASW frigates though, not AEGIS destroyers.

>>32287182
>not AEGIS destroyers.
Which are multirole, the Hobarts have hull mounted sonar, towed variable depth sonar, Seahawks, torpedo tubes and the capability to carry ASROC.
And the 48 Mk.41 offer far better flexibility than the jumble of systems the Type 26 will have.

>>32276194
>beard
not in my fucking section

>>32287088
flips?

>>32276061
lol

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>>32273083

It doesn't look as sexy though

>>32277984

Do you think the ADF would equip ours with ATGM?

>>32287388
Yes, It's a requirement.

>>32287388
yes

>tfw your cunt already has the GOAT Boxer + CV90 combo

>>32271375
BTR-4 (BRM-4K)

>>32287640
>What to buy when you want a piece of shit that has the quality control of something made by someone who is literally paid in potatoes.

>>32287648
We need to be nice to the Ukrainians. Besides, our industries have worked with theirs before. Uh... like that time Aussie contractors did the CGI cutscenes for STALKER: ShOC

Seriously though the BTR-4s are fucking sexy and tick a lot of boxes.

>>32287648
kek

>>32287655
are you on the piss?

AUSTRALIA WILL GROW LARGER

wewalans

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>>32287655
Mmmmm yeah these hull cracks on factory new vehicles is abosolutely sexy

>>32278712
They should water cool it

>>32289808
>have to open up the entire turret from the outside to pour more water in it
Has there ever been a water cooled coaxial gun? Because that seems like a terrible idea
The RMG762 is just a MG3 that can do quick changes remotely from the gunner position

>>32287372

Year 2016 and selects military hardware depending how sexy it looks instead of performance...

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>>32287196

>And the 48 Mk.41 offer far better flexibility than the jumble of systems the Type 26 will have.

The Australian/Canadian offers of the Type 26 are full Mk41, given thats the requirements. The whole point of the T26 is it's almost entirely modular.

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>>32271375
>>32271430 this with hiluxes

>>32290383
This is /k/ anon...

The Boxer is like something straight from a cyberpunk anime.

>>32292485
wait until Rheinmetall makes an portable variant of theyr Laser Weapon System then u can call it Cyberpunk ;D

>>32277051
>reliable German tech
Ah, American "education" at work

Gavin's would be the only real option. Now I know the older Gavin's are getting up there I. Age, but they're still the best. What Australia needs to do is invest in a super Gavin variant.

>>32292785
I think you're some special retard

>>32290966
Mechanic here, diesel Hiluxes have shit engine problems, wouldn't want them in my army.

should be quad tracked

>>32292785
Sparks, please.

Go back to China.

>>32273960
>Phase 3 will cover tracks as an M113 replacement.

>Lynx, CV90 and Puma will contend at least.

I don't think they will, but I think it'd be nice to see Doosan try and make a bid with the K21

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>>32298063
No point really, whatever wins phase 2 will decide phase 3.

>>32298063
Dependant on the winner of Phase 2, either the Lynx or CV90 will win. Part commonality will be the key factor (and they both meet the requirements). The K21 doesn't have an Australian industry setup and without a doubt wont even be shortlisted.

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What will replace the M1A1? Perhaps the M1A2 SEP v3?

>>32298511
Bullying Hyundais, what a job.

>>32273811
This is my unit

>>32273811
i don't think that's how you do VR australia

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>>32278712

these fucking krauts and their sexy tech!

I'm so horny right now!

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>>32298511
Apparently, curious why we don't go with Leopard 2's desu.

>>32298854
because Abrams stronk

>>32298854
US was selling them to us on the cheap. theyve the AUS armour package rather than the Export armour package. leo2's where more expensive at the time.

>>32299114
We got the old USMC ones without depleted uranium

>>32299119
no DU but upgraded chobham* i've seen some around with ERA on the skirts as well so not sure what thats about

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>>32299143
Probably bought a few sets to use in deployment.

>>32299179
AUS tanks dont deploy overseas though, unless theres some very intense "peace keeping" needing done in ET again

>>32298854
Because Iraq war.

Germany at that point wouldn't have supported the Australian Leopard 2 tanks.

>>32299189
That's what I meant. There's no point of having tanks if we're never going to use them.

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>>32299199
We're not at war why do we need a military?

Fuck off retard.

>>32299202
Someones triggered

>>32299199
it's a defence force.. should we just not have an army, navy or air force then you fucking dropkick?
"hey entire world just fucking invade, smuggle, pilage whatever it's fucking cool with us."
dickhead.

>>32298854
>Apparently, curious why we don't go with Leopard 2's desu.

'murricans can reliably supply a lot more of Abrams on short notice. That is something Germans can't do with Leopard 2. Huge majority of Leo 2 sales since end cold war has been pre-owned vehicles and Bundeswehr is running out of surplussed Leopard 2's.

>>32299189
How come we don't deploy tanks

>>32299240
politicians think tracked vehicles are scary, can't win the hearts & minds of jihadists with scary vehicles
Only by killing their leaders and bombing their hospitals can you do that.

>>32299199
>That's what I meant. There's no point of having tanks if we're never going to use them.

The point is maintaining institutional knowledge in operating tanks. If you dismiss entire armored corps, all soldiers in it will be reassigned to somewhere else. If armored corps becomes something necessary a while later, re-building the armored corps becomes a much harder effort. While maintaining a tiny armored corps might appear to be a waste of tax money, maintaining the institutional knowledge makes it cheaper than building up new brand new armored corps from nothing.

>>32299268
also, you know, in case we do need them on our soil. that and being trained in the same tanks as the americans means we can use there tanks if we need to. if the US is in a conflict and asks us for help our tankers can use their tanks. dont forget we have that agreement with them

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>>32299268
This desu, don't want to end up like the Kiwis.

>>32299289
Was just thinking this.

>>32299240
Something about only able to put tanks on the ground if you're at war.

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>>32287655
For the price the BTR-4 really isn't that bad of a deal if you are strapped for cash.

The sexiest BTR-4 is the one with out the front windows. The BTR-3 is also nice but is a copy of the Russian one.

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>>32278712
Oh fuck, I didn't know we make such sexy shit.
Just look at that fucking Mauser plate and the classic case lid

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>>32276133
This fucking cunt over here

>>32287257
How you going to cope when the airforce starts allowing beards.

Should just replace the shitty F88 that everyone hates with an AR platform instead of waste money on shit the ASLAVs can do just as well.

>>32304786
Dude the new f90 is amazing if expensive.

>>32304839
when are the battalions getting them?

>>32304850
Not army so I couldn't tell you.