Which hobby is the perfect accompaniment to guns and why is it

>>32247873
>expensive
wat

>>32247924
Guns are a relatively expensive hobby, considering how many people engage in shooting sports.

It's not frisbee golf, par example, where you could spend $500 and have everything you'd need forever.

Motorcycling is similar.

Bike, gear, licensing, maintenance and insurance

>>32247980
>Bike, gear, licensing, maintenance and insurance
nigga i pay $117/year for insurance. Bikes are cheap as shit

The difference is that motorcycles are authentically dangerous.

I don't have the reaction time or the balance for that shit.

>>32248001
Factor in
>Buying a motorcycle
>Buying gear
>Getting licensed

And it's relatively expensive.

Golf's cheaper to get into, especially if you have a few cheap courses nearby.

>>32247873

It's walking. Walking is the cheapest thing there is.

If you don't walk everywhere you're a nancy. I live in a rural area and walk everywhere I go.

>>32248024
>>Buying a motorcycle
it cost me $1650
>>Buying gear
I wear a full face helmet that's it. Fuck space suits.

>>Getting licensed
That's like a one time payment of $60 or something.


Unless you're European that is.

>>32248031
>Walking
>Hobby

Jesus I guess it would be considered a hobby if you live in bumfuck nowhere, cletus

>>32248065

How is driving a hobby either? Or guns? And walking is a hobby to city folk and suburban cunts. Hiking is just walking anyway.

>>32247873
Because motorcycling is best hobby of all. Also the same mathematics work for both. X+1 is the correct number of guns/bikes to own with X representing the number you currently have.

>>32248048
It's still not a cheap hobby bro.

If you think $1650 is cheap, you delusional, not to mention paying for gas.

A cheap hobby would be some shit like drawing.

>>32248384
$1650 is dirt cheap m8 i don't know what you're on about. Making things better is that its a literpeter so $/hp ratio is high.

desu it is a gas drinker but gas is cheaper than ammo.

>>32247873
It's not a natural combine with guns... It's fun I had motorcycle as sole means of transport for years. But cannot carry a lot of funs on a bike. Vulnerable to everything.... at mercy to weather.

Go cheap SUV instead. Think cheap jeep....

>>32248493
>$1650 is dirt cheap

Compared to other motor vehicles, yes.
Compared to other hobbies, no.

Camping, duh.

>>32249751
Camping/trekking is a more natural accompaniment. It's why /out/ is /k/'s child board.

>>32248048
>Just buying a mototcycle
>Not customizing it in order to make it unique to you
Bike parts aren't cheap either. And most motorcycles aren't particularly cool in their factory configuration. I ride a Suzuki Boulevard, and there's a guy I work with who drives a nearly identical one, but his is almost completely stock and doesn't look or sound as cool as one that has had some money thrown into it.

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>>32248007
You don't need to balance on motorcycles. The gyroscopic effect of the tires moving will keep you upright.

>>32249838
It still does require balance while riding to lean into the turns and things like that.

>>32249838
He's not wrong about them being significantly more dangerous than responsibly used firearms, though. I don't trust all the other idiots on the road not to kill me.

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>>32247873
>perfect accompaniment
Woodworking and leatherworking. Maybe Blacksmithing.


Your mileage might vary if you're one of those plastic fags

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>>32247873
I live that
>AR15 60 fps
>600cc 200mph top speed
meme

>>32248104
>Hiking is just walking anyway.
Not really, no. It's much more involved.
Cars and guns can be engaging and being "into them" constitutes as what people normally would consider hobbies but few would consider walking as a hobby by itself. Sightseeing on foot or exercise maybe, I don't know.

>>32248048
Medical bills for when you get pasted

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>>32247873
Wuddup

>>32248048
Lol 1650, post your shitbike.

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>>32249798
>>Not customizing it in order to make it unique to you
I don't need to make it unique to me. It's rare to see my bike on American roads.

The fact that i got it for $1650 for such low miles was a deal and a half.

>And most motorcycles aren't particularly cool in their factory configuration.
DOHC V4 isn't cool, it's hot.

>Compared to other motor vehicles, yes.
Compared to other hobbies, no.
Still not enough to buy a SCAR or an HMG STG.

>>32251560
I aready pasted myself desu. Surprisingly i walked away with a small 3rd degree burn and a hurt ego.
Somehow the bike managed to live as well.

>>32251605
pic related

>>32254267
>still missing the analogy

A scar or HMG STG is more equivalent to a Panigale or Super Tenere.

Your beat up old shitbike is an old Enfield.

Let's compare apples to apples

>>32254301
>A scar or HMG STG is more equivalent to a Panigale or Super Tenere.
I disagree. My local Cabela's has like $20k shotguns.

>Your beat up old shitbike is an old Enfield.

Lol no. Race me faggot. Tell me where to meet you.

>>32247873
white trash

>>32254313
>still too stupid to get the analogy

>>32254700
I get your analogy man, it's just gay.
$1650 is only a lot of money to poorfaggots.

So you come on /k/ trying to feel exclusive with your expensive luxury dualsports? lmao

>>32248007
Do you fall off bicycles? Then yeah maybe don't get on a motorcycle. But if you can ride a bicycle you can figure out a motorcycle

>>32248024
Considering how much use you can potentially get out of a motorcycle and how in most places it can serve as a primary mode of transportation year round as well as a hobby, it's actually pretty fucking cheap.

A brand new street-legal dirtbike (or dualsport or whatever you want to call them) is like 6 grand. Used, under $1000. Provided you don't wrap it around a pedestrian or tree doing something stupid it should last you 10 years with minimal maintenance and upwards of 30 if you are willing to do serious work yourself.

A high-end motorcycle helmet is like $350 for a full-face with integrated bluetooth/mic. A cheap but still DOT-approved one is $70.

Licensing over and above your standard driver's license is free in my state and no more than $100 once in any other state.

Fuel is dirt-cheap, figure national average of $2.10 a gallon, burning 10-20 gallons a month for using it as a daily driver. A massive $252-$504 a year in fuel costs.

There is very little you can't do as far as maintenance on a motorcycle with a $30 set of Craftsman wrenches and $10 in screwdrivers/bitdrivers.

Insurance is the only extremely variable thing in the whole argument. I pay $89/yr for insurance on my KLR, but I'm old (mid-30's) and married with not even a single speeding or parking ticket on my record ever. And I don't ride it daily, it's a hobby bike not a daily driver, so I told the insurance company it gets less than 2000 miles a year (which is the truth). Meanwhile someone with a brand-new Harley with comprehensive coverage that puts 15,000 miles a year on it and has 3 at-fault accidents is going to pay several hundred a month.

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>>32247873

Yamaha V-Max.

Why are motorcyclefags so stupid?

What is it about driving around on two wheels that makes them think they're cool and superior? Literally nobody gives a fuck, or they actively hate them for being annoying cunts.

Thinking that having a bike makes you cool is like thinking that having a tumblr blog makes you an activist. It is an identical mindset.

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>>32247873
>Implying anime isn't the perfect accompaniment to guns

>>32255447
Fuck off faggot

>>32248007
Yeah that's the funny part for me, I ride and shoot, everyone in the world says that guns are dangerous, but the most dangerous thing to be are libtards doing their makeup while they drive.
Ironic as fuck man

>>32248493
>>32248384
Yeah for real though don't even touch the topic of gas. Even the shitiest motorcycle gets like 40mpg, and if you do a hundred mile ride for the day, that's a pretty decent ride. Didn't even cost you ten bucks and you spent like 4 hours doing it if you had lunch halfway and look breaks, after all, you're there to have fun

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>>32255579
>Even the shitiest motorcycle gets like 40mpg,
Gunna b real honest right now w/you kindred,
My bike gets about 25mpg downhill.

>>32251594
Harleyfag here, and even I blanched at the prices on Indians when they were resurrected. Dunno if that's changed since, haven't kept tabs on them. Nice lookin' bike!

>Hey bro why don't you motercycull bro? It's not that dangerous bro just be smart bro bro

I scrape one of you off the pavement into the back of an ambulance about once a week. Lots of you die on the gurney if you aren't already spattered across the pavement when we arrive.

Bikes are just gambling with your life as the bet.

>>32255685
If i die on a bike at least i'll die happy.
That's more than any of you clowns can say.

>>32255598
Allllright that's pretty brutal famalam. Fortunately it still is within borders of not spending 10 bucks for a day or half a day of fun

>>32255736
>crying your eyes out
>pleading to live despite most of your organs being mush and your legs are strings of meat
>go quiet as you bleed out and leave behind your family to grieve for their idiot son/father
>happy

Whatever floats your boat, I still have plenty of fun in my 335i and it comes with nice things like airbags and seat belts.

>use a shitty unsafe mode of transport that leaves your tender body exposed to masses of steel and concrete
>Die en masse
>This must be someone else's fault!
>Reee start noticing motorcycles!
>Loud fucking obnoxious pipes save lives!
>I'll show you who's a real man dad!

Yea motofags are the worst.

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>>32255791
Topkek this is every biker I know. Especially the dad part.

>>32247980
>spend $500 and have everything you'd need forever.
I find a dozen lost discs every time i play, hell, i never had to buy any of my own because of that. obviously someone is paying though.

>>32255812
hello, what anime is this from please

>>32255842
Infinite Stratos

>>32255775
Yeah, the only pain is stopping every 120 miles to fill up.
Needs a bigger tank.

>>32255775
I've already crashed and it was a wipeout. I ran into a curb at 70-ish mph.
In literally a t-shirt and jeans i walked away with no broken bones.
It taught me a lesson i won't forget, and i'll leave the dent in my tank to make sure i never forget. Not all of us are flying down the road at 120mph. Sometimes i have no choice but if i get smeared on the road, whatever.

enjoy seeing the world from behind a safety net, too scared to experience anything so that you can live to an age where people have to wipe your ass for you.

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>>32255851
thanks

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/ok/ here, living the dream

>can't ride
>can't desert shoot
>can't ride to the desert and shoot
Fuck this bitter cold, motorcycles and guns are my best stress relievers

>>32255860
>scared
Kek. You faggots always say this. There's a massive difference from being cautious vs being scared. I don't have anything to prove to anybody. I don't need to risk life and limb to go from 4 wheels to 2.

And the majority of fatalities I see are in 55mph or lower zones where high speed wasn't a factor. You ever seen what a deer/bike collision looks like at 45mph? I have, and I don't want to be on the receiving end of that.

Why is it anytime you bring up motorcycles are a ridiculous risk of mortal injury every bikefag acts like you're some sort of coward?

It's like an alcoholic giving someone shit for not drinking at all as the alcoholic starts their own car up.

Cars.

>>32248024
>not getting a free broken down bike from a friend and repairing it
I got a CB350 four for $0.

>>32247873

20 Y/O Pharm Tech, USAF Applicant

Live off of 1980 Yamaha XS400.

Riding and carrying go together better than a cigarette with aftercare.

>>32247873
there's a reason they call them donorcycles

>>32248104
What is competitive motorsport.
Inb4 parkour

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>>32255873
Sorry anon I lied. It's airing this season just look it up.

That reaction image is all that saved you. New translations never.

>>32247873
>bikes
>expensive
Poor fag.

And I rather off road inna truck than bike desu. Truck offers Much more functionality, including carrying my bike.

>>32255928

That's funny because I have a strong feeling that you aren't a registered EMT.

It's groovy that you got to live with your mom and dad until you were 22, but some of us had to get real jobs in the city where a bike is infinitely preferable to a cage. I bet your mom didn't let you have squirt guns growing up, fag.

>>32255947
>being smeared into the pavement is preferable to a car

>>32255947
That wasn't my post.

>cityfag
Now I understand everything.

It is a statistical and indisputable fact that bikes are inherently much more dangerous than a car. Why do you bikefags lash out like children anytime someone reminds you of this while citing it as a reason not to partake in your lunacy?

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>>32255907
>Kek. You faggots always say this
Because it's true. You've expressed your fear based on squid deaths. The unfortunate reality is that car drivers can get in gruesome accidents as well. As a matter of fact i saw the biggest GMC brand new dually bro truck graze a telephone pole, completely stomped the whole side of it and this little baby had a squirting hole in her head. If you want to be safe go live in a bunker or something lmao.

>And the majority of fatalities I see are in 55mph or lower zones where high speed wasn't a factor.
Because squids on crotch rockets don't speed.

>You ever seen what a deer/bike collision looks like at 45mph?
No because i don't ride during mating/hunting season for that reason.

>Why is it anytime you bring up motorcycles are a ridiculous risk of mortal injury every bikefag acts like you're some sort of coward?
>calls motorcyclists cowards
>motorcyclists being the ones whose lives are at risk
mfw

Just leave me alone and everything's fine my friend.

>>32255947
>lives in the city
>is obviously extremely insecure about it
kek
also I've been shooting since I was 4

>>32255975
>It is a statistical and indisputable fact that guns are inherently much more dangerous than a knives
.

>>32255995
First off, I see just as many seasoned bikers bite it as I do noobs.

Second, are you for real thinking deer only cross the road at certain points in the year? Are you seriously this dumb?

>calls bikers cowards
Please go back to rudimentary literature classes and get some reading comprehension. I mean fuck, anon, really?

It isn't cowardly to do everything you can to aid your self preservation and that of your offspring and family. Is that not why most of us conceal a firearm?

>>32255579
>even the shittiest motorcycle gets like 40mpg
My KLR 650 gets about 17mpg. And it only has a 6.5gal tank.

By comparison my Chrysler 300C AWD gets 21mpg with the 5.7L hemi.

>>32256057
damn, i thought bikes were supposed to get like 60-70 mpg

>>32247873
I /gunsandbikes/. Bike is a triumph street triple.

I enjoy the mental satisfaction of both activities, they are very zen. Focusing all my attention on the moment of squeezing a trigger or getting the perfect combination of brake, lean, and throttle through a hard corner is bliss.

>>32256019
Except that's not true.

Knives kill more people in the US and worldwide than guns do (including deaths due to war or other armed conflict). Knives account for over 20,000 times more nonfatal injuries requiring medical treatment than guns do.

>>32256068
Some of the smaller crotch rockets and mopeds do.

Most of your cruisers (Harley, Honda Gold Wing, Indian, etc) get around 20-25, and your dualsport/dirtbikes get shit-all for gas mileage.

2-strokes get better mileage than 4-strokes but are a PITA due to needing to mix oil, plus they're dirtier and louder.

>>32256036
>First off, I see just as many seasoned bikers bite it as I do noobs.
No you don't. You can't know this for fact.

>Second, are you for real thinking deer only cross the road at certain points in the year? Are you seriously this dumb?
Deer are more likely to be active during mating/hunting season. I don't see them at any other point during the year. Why do you think forests are cityscapes of animals? Go take a walk in the woods right now and write down how many deer you see.

Since i know you're a fucking retard i'll have to be the one to tell you that squirrels, racoons, and possums are much more of a threat than fucking deer lmao.

>Please go back to rudimentary literature classes and get some reading comprehension. I mean fuck, anon, really?
My bad but for real tho you're a fucking coward.
>bloo bloo look at all these people having fun its so dangerous

The absolute irony is how dangerous it is to work as an EMS/EMT from the staggeringly high work stress and suicide rate. Hvae fun eating a bullet after scraping my hot corpse off the road with my thumbs up.

>It isn't cowardly to do everything you can to aid your self preservation
You sit here and cry about bikefags. Not a single motorcyclist doesn't know what it means if they lose their balance for a split second or run into a pot hole or ride in elbow deep traffic.
You act like you're delivering this prophecy to us like we don't know that at any second we could be a stain on the road. Get the fuck off your high horse you stupid faggot and find a bar.

>>32256068
They can if they're fuel injected which wasn't standardized until the late 2000's.

>>32256036
>Is that not why most of us conceal a firearm?
dude, you forget where you are.

Most people here that carry do so on the off chance they can kill a [person from a group they dislike due to internet memes] and get away with it.

Maybe if you polled US CC'ers as a whole and not just people on the second most autistic board on the internet that would be true though.

I have no position on the rest of the argument. I ride and understand how liberating it can be but think streetbikes and "bike culture" are toxic.

>>32256156
>second most autistic board on the internet
damn, I guess we're not trying hard enough

>>32256036
And out of the people I see speeding in excess of 100mph, 8 in 10 of them will be on a sportbike. Out of all possible vehicles, 80% of them are sportbikes.

The only people I have EVER seen doing 150+mph on a 60mph highway have been sportbikes. You never see a sportscar doing it.

A full third of the people I see doing something stupid on a motorcycle (front wheelies, double-the-speed-limit speeding, lane splitting at highway speeds, etc) aren't wearing any protective gear at all. No jacket, no pants/chaps, no boots, no helmet. And I live in a helmet-required state.

9 in 10 of the people I see doing brake-checks on the highway for the sole purpose of either pissing off the driver behind them are sportbikes.

I have witnessed sportbike riders throwing things (everything from sparkplugs to at one point a person riding bitch threw a full cinderblock at the car next to him, which caused a multi-vehicle collision when it went through the passenger window) at vehicles for no apparent reason on a nearly weekly basis. I have witnessed sportbike riders firing guns into other vehicles 4 times.

I have never witnessed a car driver or cruiser rider do any of that despite there being literally a thousand times more car drivers and a dozen times more cruiser riders in my area.

>>32256211
To be fair, you can't top /r9k/ no matter how hard you tried.

>>32256230
>holding a cinderblock for the duration of a ride
that's some dedication.

>>32256211
In all fairness, the most autistic is also a 'chan.

>>32256232
yeah you can.

>>32256251
>yeah you can.
But then you become /r9k/

>>32256250
I'm 100% convinced they were specifically out to cause a multi-vehicle pileup in rush-hour traffic on the major interstate in my city.

Which I and most people would consider premeditated murder.

>>32256057
Holy shit you need to tune you bike, that is not normal at all.

>>32256147
>No you don't. You can't know this for fact.
I'm /o/ enough to know what squids are, and most fatalities I see aren't dudes on rockets in flops and shorts. Just as often it's some late middle aged guy in full gear on a big bike. Same with guys just fucking up limbs. "But I've been riding safely for twenty five years!" Yeah well sorry, gramps, but your left leg looks like a turkey leg a dog got to. You probably won't walk on it ever again.

>Deer are more likely to be active during mating/hunting season. I don't see them at any other point during the year. Why do you think forests are cityscapes of animals? Go take a walk in the woods right now and write down how many deer you see.
Do you live in a major city or something? Here in Michigan deer are active all year and in large numbers. I saw four deer on my way home this morning and didn't even bat an eye it's that common. Same with turkeys. I routinely have groups of deer in my backyard. And I'm in a largeish town, not some bumbfuck cornfield.

>you're a coward for not willingly risking your life to ride a motorbike
Actually I'd say I just have a fondness of life to the point I don't feel like risking mine over something like a bike.

I'm not crying about you. If anything I'm lamenting that so many people fall for the meme and end up in the ER, if they're lucky enough to live that long. And yes, there is some inherent danger in being EMS, and it isn't the suicide rate (which I've never heard of being high). The difference is, I do this because I like saving people.

>>32256266
honestly doing shit like that calls for a little vigilante justice

>>32256230
Oh I've seen car drivers do plenty of stupid shit and get in wrecks. But their survival rate is incredible compared to a bike. I've seen guys walk away from a twisted hunk of metal that barely resembles a car. It's pretty amazing what being strapped in surrounded by airbags does.

A lot of the accidents I see on bikes are from bikers that were never seen and then try to blame the giant F350 they pulled out in front of for not being able to stop on a dime because the biker felt like blowing a stop sign. Or people backing out of driveways. So, so many people backing out of driveways.

My own dad used to be huge into bikes and the culture and all of that. The reason he stopped and never went back? Almost got gibbed from by a workvan backing out of a driveway. Dad says straight up he didn't give the larger vehicle the respect it deserved, thinking that they should be equals in looking out for each other. He will tell you he learned his lesson and that bikers need to accept that it's more on them then it is on anybody else.

>>32256320
Agreed.

But why is it the "bike culture" so prevalent to sportbikes seems to think doing shit like this is okay?

What other culture specifically calls for carrying sparkplugs to throw at cars?

What other culture specifically calls for not wearing protective gear?

What other culture specifically calls for riding in an organized gang for the sole purpose of your buddies beating the shit out of/killing people who do something you don't like?

Oh that's right, criminal drug gangs. Because there isn't a whole lot of distinction and a lot of overlap between the two in most places.

>>32256270
>I'm /o/ enough to know what squids are, and most fatalities I see aren't dudes on rockets in flops and shorts. Just as often it's some late middle aged guy in full gear on a big bike. Same with guys just fucking up limbs. "But I've been riding safely for twenty five years!" Yeah well sorry, gramps, but your left leg looks like a turkey leg a dog got to. You probably won't walk on it ever again.
Well if you're "/o/ enough" why don't you know that motorcycles are the midlife crisis object.
More than likely they're all beginners you're seeing with a few vets sprinkled in.

>Do you live in a major city or something? Here in Michigan deer are active all year and in large numbers. I saw four deer on my way home this morning and didn't even bat an eye it's that common. Same with turkeys. I routinely have groups of deer in my backyard. And I'm in a largeish town, not some bumbfuck cornfield.

I live in the asshole of PA, there's plenty of forests. Once again, it's small animals that are the danger.

>I'm not crying about you. If anything I'm lamenting that so many people fall for the meme and end up in the ER
People are going to die, you can't stop it.
A family in a small car are in just as much danger of a soccormom on her phone in the Range than a bikefag but the bikefag has probably trained himself to put a lot of distance between himself and that SUV.

You're in this position because of your career choice. You only see the result of a poor rider and that has left its mark. This is why both of my parents stopped working as EMTs.

Most of these deaths can be avoided by wearing a helmet. I would be dead right now if i didn't wear a helmet.
w/e man.

>>32255891
Ha, there's probably three fuckin' feet of snow up there right now. It's only been two storms and I'm already sick of this white bullshit

>>32256270
most bike deaths are 20 year old mr. cool breezes trying to look slick and show off like dumb faggots, like most muscle car owners who are under 40

>>32256341
This.
>hurr YOU need to be super-fucking paranoid about ME! I need to have the freedom to do stupid shit like driving 60+mph through a neighborhood, and when Jenny Soccermom backs out in "front" of me (in reality I was 3 blocks and 2 stop signs away, just going too fast to be able to stop) it's HER fault!
>my 200dB custom exhaust that I proceed to sit in my driveway and rev for 3 hours starting at 1am on a weekday is perfectly reasonable! LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES (until my neighbor gets sick of my shit and domes me in my driveway with a shovel because I've got a long history of being a disruptive cunt)!

>>32256353
Why do you blame many for the actions of a few?

>>32256359
>but the bikefag has probably trained himself to put a lot of distance...
NO.

Bikefags tailgate, try to shoot gaps, lane-split, and generally seem to go out of their way to put their bikes as close as humanly possible to other vehicles regardless of the speed at which they're travelling.

>>32256130
but you cant beat that 2t overdrive mode... i swear i get my dick hard everytime that speed boost comes into play

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>tfw metal detect
>tfw I have not found a gun yet

One of these days mother earth shall give me a gun.

>>32256399
Why is racism a thing? Why are stereotypes a thing?

Because it is easy and accurate to associate the actions of a few (it's really not just a few, it may be a minority but not a tiny fraction of them--I'd estimate around 30-35% of sportbike riders do this shit) with the group as a whole, especially when the whole group is easily distinguished from the rest of society.

Same reason prey species avoid predator species. You never see a rabbit going
>well I know that coyotes sometimes eat rabbits but I'd better give THIS specific coyote the benefit of the doubt

>>32247873
Hahaha I like pic related. Also motorcycles are alpha af and look really fun. My dad was a 'nam vet, aways wore sunglasses bandanna an all, totally fit the biker look. Aways wanted one but he never got it, at the time we lived in Hawaii, shit would have dope as hell.

>>32256401
>NO
Well i do, and /dbt/ seems to do it as well.

>Bikefags tailgate,
Squids m8. Real bikers know how easy it is to lock the brakes on a bike.

>try to shoot gaps, lane-split,
Because we can. Accidents involving lane splitting are usually drivers buttmad that they can't do the same. It's not an unreasonable thought.
To argue otherwise will prove your bias against bike riders.

>>32256359
>Well if you're "/o/ enough" why don't you know that motorcycles are the midlife crisis object.
>More than likely they're all beginners you're seeing with a few vets sprinkled in.
Sports convertibles are the midlife crisis go-to, not bikes. And no, I see as many vets as beginners. For every idiot doing 30 over, there's an old codger blowing a stop sign.

Small animals are a danger, sure. But you're a retard if you think deer are only active at certain points of the year.

>A family in a small car are in just as much danger of a soccormom on her phone in the Range than a bikefag but the bikefag has probably trained himself to put a lot of distance between himself and that SUV.
Of an accident? Maybe. But the people in the car survive most often, that's the difference. A LOT more often. Ten thousand times more often.

>Most of these deaths can be avoided by wearing a helmet.
Some, for sure, but not "most". A helmet doesn't save you if your chest is caved in and your guts are a soup inside.

>>32256371
Like I said, that really isn't the case. For every dipshit, there's someone doing their best to be safe. It's no different in cars. The difference is, cars are built and heavily regulated to do their absolute best to aid in your survival.

>>32256424
I ride a "sport bike" and do none of those things.

>>32256442
Congrats, you're one of the 65-70% that don't.

Get the other 30-35% in line.

>>32256388
They flunked science classes and don't understand the doppler effect. Even our ambulance siren, multitudes louder than most bike exhausts, isn't that perceptible forward unless you're close. There's a reason we slow down/stop at red lights and wait to make sure everybody fucking sees us.

>>32256353
biker gangs are fucking cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVK77U8bgKc

if you watch to the end they start smashing the dude's windows in to try to get to him. how many do you think he could have popped if he was carrying?

>>32256432
>Sports convertibles are the midlife crisis go-to, not bikes
No they aren't. The Harley is the go-to. This is why bikes don't retain their value at all.

>And no, I see as many vets as beginners.
Once again, you can't prove this.

>there's an old codger blowing a stop sign.
This isn't the military where you have to join before you're 24 years old.
My neighbor bought a Harley when he was 46 and crashed it a week later.

>Some, for sure, but not "most". A helmet doesn't save you if your chest is caved in and your guts are a soup inside.

In that case i died doing what i love. Leave it alone.

Stop having a bleeding heart for bikes when we don't feel the same as you.

>>32256450
>Get the other 30-35% in line.

Get some non ass-pulled numbers and we'll talk.

>>32256458
Considering I'm 100% positive at least one of the bikers has a gun, probably not enough.

>>32256432
I've lived 5-10 minutes from an air base for 35 years. It really is for where I live. The blacks also try to speed as fast as they fucking can and end up as jelly on the road. The only bikers that are safe around here are actual bikers

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>>32256250
fucking dedication!

>>32256504
you're right, he should have just smashed them all while they were chasing him

how retarded do you have to be to brake check a 5000 pound SUV while on a bike

>>32256486
>huuuuuurrr it's 29.9999% that act like dickbags, your argument is invalid xaxaxaxa!
You're literally the same as the slavaboos demanding "proofs".

>>32256523
Well you're dumb enough to own a sportbike and be in a biker gang oh exuse me "bike club".

Note how prevalent doing stupid/dangerous shit like that is among people who ride sportbikes.

>>32256486
>No they aren't. The Harley is the go-to. This is why bikes don't retain their value at all.
Debatable. Most guys in a midlife are married and their wives are fine with a car but not a bike.

I don't have any tangible "proofs", but of all the non-fatalities I see, plenty are guys who tell me just how long they've been doing this. One old guy, missing his left leg from the knee down and still riding, told me he had just accepted that every 100k miles to expect a major accident. He lost his right testicle that ride.

I'm not saying you can't love it. But please stop acting like people are cowards if they don't partake in your grand delusion that riding a bike makes you somehow superior or that they are a safe mode of transport if done "correctly".

I'm saying I don't get it as a hobby considering how likely you are to suffer grave injury all to ride a 2 wheeled vehicle in a world run by 4 wheel cars.

>>32251514
>It's a lot more involved
In that it involves a lot of, in fact mostly, walking.

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>not going /out/

/k/omrade, while motorcycling is good, it isn't the most /k/ non-weapons hobby. You can make weapons with woodscraft or metalworking, and while you can use a motorcycle as a weapon, doing so poses a risk to you as well.

>>32256584
If there's any automotive hobby that is the most /k/ related, it's offroading. Preferably in a milsurp vehicle. Of those, hopefully a tank.

>>32256523
Pretty fucking retarded

>>32256458
so at the end, when the SUV gets stuck behind some other cars, should he have gone in reverse?

>>32256057
>Live in bongland
>20ish mpg would be cripplingly expensive
I don't have an image to describe how jelly I am of the fuel prices in the US.

>>32256643
eesh, yah m8. I was there in the late 90's when gas (petrol) was around 3 pounds a liter. I can only imagine what it is now.
>filled up this morning for $1.89 a gallon

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>>32256458
>not just throwing it into R and slamming the gas

Watch all the dindus on 2wheels scramble out of the way then.

>>32256723
I guess the best thing to do would have been to stay on the highway until the police came and arrested them all
>delicious biker tears

>>32256643
Ive owned 4 cars. Only one has done more than 20mpg.

>>32256969
were they muscle cars or trucks/SUVs? that's pretty shit for a car, hell, even compact SUVs get around 30 these days

>>32257007
Volvo s70
BMW 540i (gas was $4 a gallon at the time)
Nissan pathfinder
GLI curent.

>>32256529
Find me a sourced statistic and we'll talk.
That's all I'm asking.

>But please stop acting like people are cowards if they don't partake
As soon as you carfags stop acting like you're the only ones who know it's a dangerous hobby.
We fucking know.

>>32256595
>offroading
>lets drive down a slightly dirty road

>>32255617
the scout is priced at the 1200 sportster range, i even bought the cheapest scout and it outperforms the sporty handily.

mine was like 12000 out the door.

>>32255747
My best estimate is mine gets between 20 and 25. I could probably get more if I were just puttering around but I didn't buy a fast bike to go slow.

>>32256458
You missed the part where the driver of that SUV had ridden through a number of riders towards the back sending several to the hospital and paralyzing one from the waist down then trying to speed away.

Hence the chase.

>>32256057
Jesus clean your air filter and pump up your tires anon my klr got 35 at its worst

>>32257580
People like that deserve to be murdered desu

>This SUPER COOL NIGGA passes off EVERY CAGER with this one NEAT trick!

>>32247873
Harleyfags are the fudds of the baiku world.

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>>32250082
>>600cc 200mph top speed
>implying any 600cc on the market can hit 200mph.

>>32257689
Road Rossis are the mall ninjas of the bike world.

>>32257685
>Cagers HATE him

I'm surprised at this thread. You'd think that people that have had to deal with liberal bullshit and misinformation about guns wouldn't be parroting liberal bullshit about bikes.

>>32257779
further proof that /k/ is mostly populated by retards and hypocrites.

>>32257580
Because they were harassing and threatening him

>>32256673
>£3 a litre
I hope you mean gallon? Otherwise I'd have to stop bitching about current prices!
>>32256969
Not a problem when petrol is $1.89 a gallon. Over here it's about £1.10 a litre.
Someone else do the maths.

>>32257991
>people are mean to me better hit&run them

>>32257795
>all opinions can be pinned to a political spectrum.
Plenty of 'wont somebody think of the children' type Republicans out there.
Let's grow up a little guys.

>>32258001
>a gang is trying to harm me and my family i better be really nice to them so they go away.
Get fucked

>>32257995
I live near a major city so gas is almost $3 a gallon where I live.

>>32258021
>let me piss them off further by running over their friends
reel smrat

>>32258011
>grow up
Fuck you, man

>>32258068
>Let me get the fuck away from a mob by any means necessary.
Sucks your shithead friends got squished but perhaps they should have been more upstanding members of society.

>>32258092
They're not my friends, friend. SUVcuck should have been packing

>>32258124
I agree but i believe this happened in a cuck state so he used the only weapon he had.

>>32255436
It feels better than driving, is fun, and is cheap.

Because of all that it can be liberating. Lot of bikers are assholes though.

Havent met one i genuinely like.

Maybe try being less judgemental? It makes you happier.

>>32258037
That'd still be great in bongland.
>>32258068
Hey, just a bit if advice, quit acting like a complete asshat. Nice that that was the only thing you took from that comment.....

>>32249939
This anon get it

>>32255736
>If i die shooting my guns at least I'll die happy

>>32249866
No it does not. It's body positioning and countersteering.

>>32248001
yeah if you're 25 and have a clean driving record

>>32258974
Yes

>>32259039
I'm 22 and have had multiple tickets, the bike is an 1100 and i have Allstate.

git gud faggot.

>>32247873
>Live in Cali
>Love riding motorcycles but only in residential streets and roads
>Deathly afraid of riding on the freeways
And highways
Who else here /pussyrider/

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>>32247873
Why are bikefags some of the most obnoxious faggots there are? I swear, it doesn't matter if they're on the road or off the road they act like the entire fucking world belongs to them and get snappy if you don't bow before them.

>>32247873
I think a dual sport like a KTM 690, dzr 450, klr 650 would be great as a K Bike. saddlebags or panniers and you can go anywhere. I like to use my bike to scout out all the trails, escape routes, etc. Check out some bike vs cop vids on the jewtube when dirtbikes are involved. good times.

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>>32256360

It's too cold where I live now to realistically ride, but for all the naysayers I KNOW it's more dangerous than a car. I KNOW I'm more likely to be killed while riding. Unfortunately, nothing comes close to the feel of riding, being one with the machine. Say what you will, but I love everything about my bike.

She looks like this now. Work in progress

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DR650 master race reporting in

>STOP DOING THINGS I DON'T LIKE

Lol /k/ bitching about motorcyclists is pretty anti freedom

What, are you some faggot lefty?

>>32255598
You need to clean your carbs and tune that baby up man.
My 1982 GS850 gets 30mpg in town.

>>32261607
It has 4 single barrel carbs burning rich from the factory for heat management. It'll still cook in traffic though.

V4 l..li..life

>>32257711
that's the joke dipshit