/akg/ AK General

>>32228715
first

polymer sidefolder best sidefolder

metal triangle btfo!

>>32228715
give me a california 10 round ak mag cad so I can 3D print them and save money

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>tfw will never get the Type 56S-1 like you so long for
Man the coworker who dicked me out of one will always earn all of my hatred. That fucker.

Why do people buy yugo AKs? They look like complete shit. Fucking Buttrick looks like a god damn boat oar
>Inb4 shovel wasr or literally boat oar yugo

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Is this animation /akg/ approved? I didn't make the model, it was supplied by my client. It's not the best model in the world but it's for a mobile game.

I don't know a ton about AK's so let me know if anything here is fucky

>>32228756
Buttstock* fucking autocorrect.

>>32228753
>tfw will never get a DDI that lasts more than 500 rounds before needs replacement parts

>>32228760
You could make it much more fluid by having the left hand reach under and charge the rifle.

>>32228774
There's already an AK12 and an ASVAL that I did and they both charge under, so I went with something different.

>>32228779
>>32228774
Also before it's said, I know the AK12 has an ambi bolt carrier. I have no idea why but the client pushed me hard to charge it under like BF4 does.

>>32228760
The spent magazine (really, the latch which secures it) shouldn't be pressed out with the front locking tab of the fresh magazine. The latch should be depressed by the front of the body of the magazine.

Also, the charging handle should be actuated by the support hand, not the hand that's next to the trigger, either reach under (behind the mag) and charge or the rifle should be tilted so the ejection port is skyward and the support hand should reach over to actuate the charging handle.

>>32228779
The AK animation looks fine, if a bit slow. If you want to have a bit more variation, you could do an overhand charge where the rifle is tilted left and the left hand charges the rifle from the top.

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>>32228773
Yeah, you'll never get a DDI because you'll never be able to afford one, child.

>>32228756
They're cheap as fuck here, that's why. The eventually passed Rob Ski's test with severe issues so people are now flocking to them.

>>32228760
Terrible, terrible model but the animation is fine.

Any of you guys keep your AKs pure?
I can kind of dig the tactical shit put on them but I rarely ever see people just keep their AKs stock anymore.
Nothing looks sexier than a nice wood stock set with a good finish.

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>>32228798
>>32228796
I wanted to do overhand charging; but I'm working around the model being shit (already had animated it half way before realizing the modeller didn't know anything about AK's I guess). I'm keeping the right side off camera for a reason; I'm not sure he knows that the bolt goes back farther than the ejection port. The top of the fucking receiver is slanted.

Pic related. I'm sure you can understand why you want me to keep this off screen.

Bonus: He had the safety modeled with it engaged and I had to make a bone for it to move it off

>>32228807
Honestly he usually gets good models (especially for mobile), I'm not sure why this one is so shit.

>>32228820
That's part of why I'm doing a historical build. Once rifle is done, rifle is done, and the only thing I'll ever need to keep buying for it are magazines and maybe little pieces of era-specific militaria to go with it.

>>32228853
What are you building, if I might inquire?

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>>32228820
My AK74 is for slav tacticooling, but my PM md.63 is purely for purity.

Ok, so what was so bad about these except for having expectations too high?
I'm thinking about getting one and swapping the GB and FSP for ones with accessory and bayo lugs, threaded for muzzle devices.

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W A S R

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>>32228886
derp

>>32228807
>because you'll never be able to afford one

Sorry your projecting doesn't work. Unlike you, I could afford an Arsenal. You know, they make guns that dont shit themselves every 500 rounds.

>>32228859
1983 AKS-74N with a Izhmash parts kit from the same year on a 74u LLC.

I started this project in late 2013/early 2014 thinking I should just buy a Waffen Werks Bulgarian to have an "Afghan"-style AK, but I found out Izzy kits from the conflict were available at a decent price and in excellent condition and it all kinda spiraled out of control from there.

Rifle should be done and in my hands around Christmas or shortly after New Year's. Not sure if I'll bother chasing down a Soviet 1PN34 to complete the "N" part or not. If I can get that plum 6x5 bayonet from last thread (which was made between 1983-1985 according to most sources), I'll definitely grab that too.

>>32228886
>>32228892
The muzzle is already threaded, 14x1LH
But I don't see any problems with doing a GB and FSB swap, other than you'll likely need RPK components as the barrel is beefier than a standard AK.

>>32228989
Nice. Please show it off once it's built.

>>32228860
Looks nice anon, does that fun switch work?

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>>32229003
As I told Chimps a while back, I've been waiting so long that it'll probably be all I talk about for a month, so I definitely will. There's already some history in the kit itself, and if I can snag the bayonet (which the owner claims was a war trophy taken out of Iraq), it'll have even more. This mag is from the Chechen Wars, but it'll probably end up living in the gun too. One side says "death to the circumcised" (Chechen muslims), the other says "for Dima!!!"

Having so much human history tied up in one gun makes me feel things I can't quite explain.

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>>32228927
You do realize that the accessories on my AK alone make Arsenals look like chump change, right? You sure showed me your nice ass Arsenal, anon.

>>32229011
If I tell you no and show you a photo of the gun from when I first bought it when no modification had been done to it at all, would you believe me if I said "no, it does not shoot full auto"?

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>>32229030
Ah, I remember you.
Looking forward to seeing it done.

>Having so much human history tied up in one gun makes me feel things I can't quite explain.

>>32229046
of course anon, I know you're a law abiding citizen with civi semi like the rest of us. ;)

>>32229046
>muh expensive accessories

You are the black guy that buys a beat to shit $800 Buick and puts $1800 worth of wheels on it, aren't you?

I mean, shit, at least use a decent rifle as a base, and actually have something worth showing off.

>>32228774
Only yanks do that shit.
Proper ruskies & people born with AKs charge with their right hand.

>>32229046
Cool. So show us the 74.

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>>32229076
)))))))))))))

>>32229084
No, I'm the smart person who buys a good rifle and puts good accessories on it rather than buying an overpriced rifle and spending the rest of my money on my wifi so that I can talk about how cool I am online and defend the reputation of a company that repeatedly has the QC issues of fucking Century monkeys but without the really nice customer support that fixes everything.

>>32229093
See >>32228807

>>32229046
>muh accessories

Maybe you should have saved that welfare money for a rifle that actually worked first.

>>32229109
>good rifle

Nick is still in complete denial lmao. This fat kike is getting pretty annoying. You should go back to /arg/

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>>32229136
I've put around 3-4k rounds through my AK74 in the last six months, have you? I've not had a single issue yet.

Nice Arsenal, btw. Glad you showed it off.

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>>32229155
>I've put around 3-4k rounds through

Wow, that sure is a lot! Just wow!

>>32228760
And don't forget, you don't need to touch the charging handle unless theres nothing in the chamber. In don't know why, but my autism goes nuts when I reload when I have 3 rounds left and the guy uses the charging handle.

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>>32229175
In this game the client didn't want multiple reloads, but normally I would make two.

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>>32229171
Holy fuck that finish is pathetic.

>>32229194
>gets BTFO
>"f-f-finish!" like he can even tell from a blurry zoomed in photo

Oh boy, another "Nick has a meltdown" episode.

>>32229185
Oh bless you my man. At least you try!

Just a friendly reminder that Nick is another tripfag that originated from /arg/ and should be ignored like the other children from that containment.

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>>32229201
How was I BTFO? I made you prove that you actually own an Arsenal? Sure showed me that you actually have horrible taste rather than just believing everything you read on TFB TV :^)

>>32228715
spikers are gross

>>32229217
>Fat Jew
>shit tastes in AKs
>has horrendous buyer's remorse for said AK, comes to this thread daily to defend his DDI Masters (all while posting the same 4 pictures constantly because going outside to take some new pics is HARD!)


Come on my man, why even bother living at this point? Maybe you should kys with that DDI. Would be the first time a DDI was ever actually used for good.

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>>32229185
That model is certainly higher quality than the AK; one of the two must be a bought asset from a separate source.

>>32229225
>Using years-old outdated memes about me to personally attack me, someone you've never met, on an internet image board that was devised for the sole purpose of sharing futa porn
You're the one who needs to take a step back and look at your life choices; start with where you bought an Arsenal :^)

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>>32229194

>owns a DDI

everything you could possibly say is invalid, you don't have the right to talk about high end, or quality imports when you own some POS U.S made ak.

>>32229234
>and look at your life choices


My life is pretty great, thanks. For starters I can actually afford an Arsenal and don't have to settle for shitty DDI guns. I also don't have a stupid JewFro either, a bonus!

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>>32229238
>tfw no crate of Krinks
It's too bad Russia cracked down on import laws recently (from what I hear), because I would've loved to have imported a parts kit when it didn't require k'nex sets.

>>32229240
My AK is Bulgarian made and US assembled :^)

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>>32229234
That model is for a different game that is on PC. AK is for a mobile game. For the PC game we have actual professionals. One of our guys worked on Rainbow Six: Siege, another with Yager Games, we have a VFX from EPIC, etc.. This one is gonna be a good one.

My renders for that game's models don't do them justice. I do quick renders; here's what the MP40 looks like when it's actually lit and rendered properly.

>>32229253
>Our Ghost Of War
Just looked up some pictures and it seems nice. Not sure about the idea of a survival game set during WWII, but it could be neat if done properly I guess. At the very least, it looks well done, if not a bit too clean.

I was going to say that I hope your models are rendered better for the full game, because that render wasn't bad, but it certainly isn't 2016 gaming standard.

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>>32229252
Russia's export laws with us have sucked since the 90s damn you VRA

>>32229279
Yeah, but from what I heard they got more strict recently (like, new laws on the books after the US Sanctions hit, right? At least, this is what I've heard from people who have tried to import shit recently.

>>32229267
We'll have separate PvP with lobbies and stuff on smaller dedicated maps aside from the survival part as well. Both sides will build bunkers and whatnot with separate classes for resource gathering, stealth, etc.. I don't really like survival games much but I like what we have planned for PvP lobbies.

>>32229286
Hmm nothing I've heard about

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>>32228720
can chink faggots even compete?

>>32227456
>Paint them with Europium.

http://www.unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_45&products_id=384

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EARLY
A R
RARE
L E
Y

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Muh wasrs

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>his rifle has no dimples

>>32229225
Don't forget that he's a cunty Ukie fatnik.

>>32230477
Neither do most rpk's and some older saiga's, what's your point sperglord?

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>>32230419
Boy! where did you get that?

Now that trumps prez and theres no more ban fears, should i just sell my sks and use it for ak money?

>>32230459
Those both look really, really good. Well done.

>>32230541
Thanks

>>32230517
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289299

>hurryhurryhurry

>>32230562
Fuuuu I don't need that

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>>32230500
Oh, nothing. I'm sure it happens to lots of guys, Anon.

>>32229030
He's got Smegma all over his hands.

>>32230562
ty

>>32229030
I'm not gonna be bidding on that bayo, so good luck

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Anyone have one of the new vepr aks, how's the quality and function.

>>32229286
They were denying export out of spite for a few months after the sanctions. Then they realized they can't afford to be petty, so things have been relatively normal.

Slightly more difficult to export fully functional guns for the time being.

>>32230459
I second this >>32230541

Instead of fagging up your guns you made them a little unique and cool as fuck. Bonus points for folder and Pseudo DMR mockup specifically.

>>32230889
Thanks

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>>32228715
Most aesthetic ak ever

>>32230930
No

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Just got my first ak yesterday. How did I do /k/?

Do you have a dog?

>>32231158
Arm support. I promise.

>>32229109
I still don't see how your rifle is worth more then an Arsenal.

>>32231046
How much ?

>>32230122
Triangle and Bakelite soldefolder shits on that.

>>32231046
Why is it upside down is it designed for bat people?

>>32231241
Traded for a "ar 47" i had $600 in.

>>32231253
Yes....yes it is.

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>>32231231
BCUZ IT HAS ZENITCO

>UNATCO?

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If I could have any of the really rare and unique Russian prototype weapons that never made it it would have to be this one

>>32230459
Fuggin sexy anon. Both of them. Hnnnng

>>32231465
Tf is an AR47?

>Someone (guy #1) listed a bunch of Egyptian stuff like mags, bayos, crutches, pouches, slings, oilers, and cleaning kits
>A few hours before him someone else (guy #2) listed three in wrapper Egyptian mags in an Egyptian pouch with a set of Egyptian oiler and cleaning kit for the same price as just one pouch and cleaning kit from guy #1
>It sold quick, before guy #1 listed all his stuff
Why do I always miss out on the good deals? That lucky little shit got to it first

>>32231465
Nice man dracos are fun, is it a draco-c ?
Also get rid of that fagpul

>>32231742
I missed it too i would have paid $ 140 for a crutch folder

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>>32231591
Is that a plum reciever?

>>32231699
7.62x39 ar-15. They are ok but unreliable for a go-to rifle.

>>32231834
Ah okay. Thanks mate

>>32231807
Thanks. Not sure if its a c or not. I wanna put a draco mini style fore on it but im pretty sure they are different sizes. Might have to make one. Taking the "arm brace" off too .

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>>32231742
That was literally me :^)

I'll be sure to gloat about it here when it arrives on Thursday specifically for you :^^))). Nah I pounced on it as soon as I saw it. That was a steal of a price just for the mags in wrapper, all the other stuff is just icing on the cake.

>>32231824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WFOhdVSIXk
Have more masturbatory material.

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>>32231824
Yep and that one has a ton of flecks too. Vickers has a video on it. It's called the MA and it was designed by Dragunov.
https://youtu.be/8FJdTz94k3g

>>32231869
>>32231875
Stop it guys im at work haha
God do i want one now ......

>>32231861
Check the rear trunion if ots cut for a underfolding stock. Also it will say draco-c

>>32228760
>>32228779
>>32228782

If you're still here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYs9Umw-Owo

>>32231231
>ZenitCo Buttstock
>TA33 ACOG
>DDI AK74S
My rifle is only $400 less than an Arsenal to begin with. The stock alone boosts it over the cost of an Arsenal, and the ACOG kicks the Arsenal's price in the dick because it costs more than an Arsenal alone.

>>32230681
If they're anything like their more sporting-oriented rifles, they'll be fine. The real problem anyone has with them is that they're just a horrendous mish-mash of all sorts of AK/RPK variants without any of the features that true autists like (such as the bayonet lug and the cleaning rod guide/retainer).

I really wish they would do a true RPK or a true AK, because this in-between shit is a sin.

>>32231993
Will do. Dont think it is tho.

>>32231591
Fuuug Slav party

>send pics of your booster installed, have feels that's it's going to look sweet with vented hg

>>32232016
I may be in the minority here, but i dont think adding expensive stuff to a cheaper gun makes it worth more. Like a modded honda..

>>32232020
It honestly does not matter they both are good. Also it takes regular akm hand guards

>>32232050
Your not alone, when all said and done its still a honda.

>>32232016
Lol cool story you paid more for your accessories.

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I take it back, cats are still shitheads

Anything in particular to be aware of with the dracos? Mine has an aftermarket gas tube and i think the piston is not original either.

>>32232016
>$400+ stock
For what purpose, given the cost and performance of competing stocks?

Face it, you riced out your Honda-tier AK. There's nothing wrong with that if you really like your DDI AK, but don't get your panties in a twist when it fails to impress the people who just bought a BMW or a Lexus on the "equal financial investment" grounds alone.

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>>32228760

/Akg/ is autist. Normal /k/ fag here this is just right it is perfect right now.

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>>32232185
NOOO CHIMPS PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT BACK YOU WERE COMING AROUND

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>>32232238
cats still a best

>>32232050
It doesn't make the gun worth more, but my argument wasn't that it made the rifle worth more, it's that I had the money to afford an Arsenal and chose not to buy it because it presented me no realistic advantages over my DDI despite being $400 more. I don't need the folding stock that is useless once you have an optic, I don't want the bad finish, and I don't want the terrible customer service that won't fix canted sights and other issues (I buy online because LGSs have ridiculous prices so I don't have the chance to check in person before buying).

The problem with the Honda comparison is assuming that a DDI is a Honda and that an Arsenal is something more expensive. Arsenals have one realistic advantage and it's only available to people who exclusively use iron sights, so what's the point in spending $400 more when I could use that for the optic I will put on my rifle which will nullify the folding stock?

>>32232204
Because I paid a shitload less than $400 for this piece of shit meme stock.

Once again, closer argument would be calling DDI a BMW and Arsenal an Audi: both are around the same price range, offer similar features, and one might have better features than the other, but those features aren't useful for everyone so not everyone is willing to pay the price for it.

I'm not in the market of trying to impress anyone, I'm in the market of trying to make people less stupid, which doesn't seem to be working because people are still lumping in DDI kit builds with DDI All American builds.

>>32232227
>Normal /k/ fag
So someone who doesn't know any of the specifics about AKs and is even less likely to own a gun than a Redditor?

>>32232185
It's too bad most cats have such a shit attitude because most of them are incredibly cute.

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>>32232185
#notallcats

>>32232259
Not even remotely.

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>>32232185
Cats are for cute.

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>>32232238
They only love me for my glazed ham. My woofer has never raised a paw against me

>>32232274
Kek

>>32232266
So do you don't inspect the gun when they transfer it your local FFL?

>>32232266
Dude stop defending the rifle man, according to you , its a good rifle we get it. Yours may be fine because its a kit build, but ddi has proven to be shitt as a company. If imagine they will be like WW twards the end.

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>>32232374
>>32232274

only one good use for pups tbqh

>>32232444
How have they proven to be a shit company? because of two faulty extractors? There were a couple reported problems with the DDI12 (though at least one was catastrophic) and a couple reported problems with the All Americans; neither of which I'll defend. Other than that, I've not heard a single problem about their guns. You do realize the occasional problem (including catastrophic) happens with Arsenal as well, right? Calling DDI shit is the same as calling Arsenal shit.

>>32232391
At that point it's a bit late, isn't it?

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>>32232463
As opposed to zero good uses for cats then? Not that much meat on them.

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wtf I hate cats now, I came home from work to grab a coat and my cat took a fat stinky dump right outside his litter box on the floor and now he's acting all smug and happy about it

>>32232465
There customer service is shit, owner is not business savy and has no clue what he is doing, beside acting like a manchild on social media . Yes im aware that crazy shit has happen but arsenal has been around much longer than ddi. You realy cant logistically compare the track records.

>>32232538
they usually do that when u dont clean it often enough

>>32232465
Nick I get you just want to defend your purchase but DDI is pretty bad, they handled the situation like a giant manchild and can't accept they have issues. Their rifles are mediocre at best, accept it.

>>32232564
Yeah but I clean it every night, he went like 12 hours with a clean box and decided to shit on the floor

>>32232538
I warned you about cats bro

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>>32232549
>Their customer service is shit
You know this how? Have you had any issues with a DDI rifle before that you needed fixed? Everything I've heard about their customer service is great.

>Owner is not business savvy and has no clue what he is doing
Seems to me like he's got a good idea what he's doing: buying cheap, high quality AK parts kits and building them at a competitive price. Now he's trying to expand into an All American market to control the quality of everything like many other AK manufacturers have, and like it has for everyone else, there are snags along the way.

>Acts like a manchild on social media
I think the shitposting he does is funny, but yes it's far from professional to shit all over a few worthless shitposters who legitimately call the M16 a poodle shooter and act like PSA is the greatest thing since cast trunnions.

The problem with your equation that includes length of time is that it doesn't factor in the drop off in issues we've seen other DDI weapons have. I haven't seen a single issue with DDI 12s outside of the first handful of cases, and the American Made DDIs have had two extractor issues and two videos posted by internet nobodies with no followup from them.

Arsenal consistently has issues in each batch with the only question being "what is it this time?". DDI has consistently had first batch problems that are stopped immediately after they find out what the issue is, which is quick because people give them all sorts of shit over it.

>>32232575
Their rifles are upper middle, which is right where Arsenal sits and is right where the best bang for your buck sits.

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>>32232625
Someone here years ago told me that PAJO was either a name or related to some Serbian group.

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>>32232549
I've heard that DDI CS was pretty damn good, despite their owner acting like a prick.

Frankly, I don't understand why people are so quick to shit on a company that's actually trying to make good US AKs. They haven't succeeded yet but it seems like they're going to keep on trying to improve. If they manage to pull it off, more quality AKs in the market will be a good thing.

>>32232625

>>32232629
So he took over ww and made it shit ?
Its not hard to put a kit together right, especially when you have the correct tools. The fact that after all the hype he ruined the company rep by cheaping out. Sound real intelligent. If he knew what he was doing those rifle would have never left the factory. No better than IO

>>32232684
It's like Rob said so beautifully in the final video
"DDI, I know you guys are trying hard. Try harder."

>>32232715
Explain to me where he "cheaped out" please. I would love to know. How is he supposed to know someone on the floor of a production factory took a bag of bad extractors and put them into rifles? Having a single retarded employee is not the same as have a shitty company.

>>32232719
This is the one thing I'll give on: DDI definitely needs to fix their shit when it comes to the extractors, but I've got faith they'll do that considering how fast they've fixed other issues in the past. Still need to see that stupid fuck who put the bad extractors in not once but twice fired.

>>32232715
>No better than IO
There's making an argument and then there's ruining your own argument through hyperbole. Come on now, you're better than this.

>>32232719
Fucking this 100%. If they figure out what they did wrong and fix it like PSA seems to have done, then it'll be nice to have more options on the market.

>>32232746
You don't actually believe that "bag of bad extractors" bullshit do you?
It's pretty obvious that ALL of their extractors are shit, which is why when they sent Rob another one it snapped too. If there were some bag of bad extractors floating around somewhere on the production floor, why would they reach in and grab one as a replacement for a bad extractor? They wouldn't.

>>32232016
Leave it to some fat jew to boast about how much he spent on useless shit

>>32232746
How hard is it to discover the makeup of combloc extractor? Also if they did testing on thier extractors how come they sent shit ones out in the rifles.

>>32232747
They a litteraly head down the same path.

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Probably gonna try to get Hungarian wood stock & grips for this at the next gunshow.

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>>32232629
>Upper middle

Lower middle Nick, where do you think we are right now?

>>32232833
That became an obvious BS excuse as soon as Rob broke the second one. Which I'm so glad he did, because it totally puts to rest the following defenses:
"Just a fluke"
"Sample size of one"
"Every company makes lemons"

>>32232872

He's in fantasy land trying desperately to convince himself that his gun isn't shit. It's best to just laugh at him and leave him be.

>>32232854
I disagree. If you look at DDI's response to Rob's test compared to IO, you see a pretty marked difference. The bag of bad ones is obviously bullshit but they're not blaming Rob and screaming "rigged" like Uli.

Starting your own production isn't a simple thing to do and as with every company, problems will arise and mistakes will happen. I'm not excusing these issues but time will tell if they choose to step up and fix it rather than ignore it. I personally think it's far too soon to make a sweeping statement that "DDI is just as bad."

>>32232854
Have you ever tried heat treating anything in your entire life? Because if you haven't, then you have no need to comment on the situation because you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>32232872
As long as we have those frankenbuild AMDs on the market it will be at the very least upper middle, unless you're willing to say Arsenal is lower middle as well.

>>32232984
Its not hard to do multible test, also if slavs can surely us American can use our superior intelligence to solve such a mystery.
>>32232944
He did not start anything, he took over WW. They already had a set up, all that need to be done was wrangle in the qc and produce parts of the proper tempermant.

>>32232944
Sorry for the second post, but i do agree they can redeem themselves if they can show the ak community that they rectified any major issues.

>>32233034
Pretty sure he said that they don't make the extractors, that they're outsourced. Kind of to be expected. They're forging their bolts and carriers now, but it would be a huge deal for them to set up a forge in house. So most likely the raw forgings are outsourced too. Whether or not DDI does the hardening on the extractors and the finishing touches, I dunno. But somewhere along the line something went wrong.

This is why pre-existing European factories are at such an advantage. They can do all of their casting, forging, lathe work and CNC/mill work in house because they already have all the hardware because it was paid for by the state. They have to do maintenance and eventually replace these machines but they're still at an advantage over a much smaller US company that has to outsource a lot of their important parts.

>>32232984
Well Arsenal is upper middle, the problem is you're equating DDI and arsenal. We all make bad purchases, you don't have to defend them, it's just money

>>32233034
>It's not hard to do multiple tests
The only thing I'll give you here is that they should've specifically tested the extractor that they sent out to Rob Ski as a replacement. Other than this, do you understand how QC checks work? Sure as hell doesn't seem like it. Not every single rifle has a test to see how many rounds it can shoot before failure because that would be an extreme waste of money.

Also, how fucking stupid are you? He bought out WW and moved it to a completely new location that was much more convenient for fabrication. I knew you weren't the most intelligent based on your inability to comprehend the English language, but surely even the dumbest anti-DDI shitposter would know this.

>>32233079
They are outsourced. I believe they went to three different companies and one of them failed to do proper heat treatment.

>>32233088
The problem is you're trying to disassociate DDI and Arsenal from the same level of quality.

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>>32233034
Waffen werks didn't make rifles with every part made in the US.

>>32233067
Yeah, I sure hope so.

>>32233079
> they don't make the extractors, that they're outsourced
That's what they said on Facebook.

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>>32233099
>How dumb am i ?
Apperently its impossible to move equipment, according to you.
Also i did not buy a ddi so i cant be that retarded.

My reciever is on its way :)
My

>>32233099
They ARE a different level of quality

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>>32231046

Dracos are good, need to get mine SBR'd

>>32233532
That plum draco is sexy

How involved is it to convert a 23 inch VEPR to an RPK?

Is it even worth it?

>>32232944
>but they're not blaming Rob and screaming "rigged"
What the fuck was that "this text does not leave this group. The pictures can." message trying to say then? Cause it sure as shit sounded like he was implying that Rob's test was fucky.

> "this rifle has been abused" and it turns out just fine and dandy when DDI does the testing in-house.

>>32233750
The abuse was referring to DDI's testing not Rob's. Rob doesn't let the rifles get anywhere near as hot as they did.

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This guy is selling his Romanian AES-10B for $950.

Should I take it?

>>32233824
I'm well aware. The implication is that DDI can abuse a rifle beyond what Rob was doing, and have it turn out fine, so that means something's wrong with Rob's tests.

At least that's what it sounded like it was saying to me.

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>>32233861
here is a second picture with a PKA and drum mag that he'll include both of for $1,200 total

HERE WE GO BOYS, THE DEFINITIVE POLL THAT WILL DETERMINE THE TRUTH ABOUT DDI BEING A SHIT OR NOT

http://www.strawpoll.me/11814876

>>32233865
I didn't get that impression. To me it looked like they were just trying to show off what it could do with a not shitty extractor. I'm pretty sure they know it would be complete suicide for them to try to shit-talk Rob, especially since he wants them to succeed.

>>32233901
I that asshole is so insecure and childish that he would point the finger at anyone else before himself, even Rob.

>>32233878
>one single vote for no
lol nick

>>32233998
It wasn't David Fillers who posted it. I mean, I guess it's up for interpretation what the poster meant but they've already acknowledged that it was a fuck up with the parts, I'm not sure what they would gain by blaming something vague? on Rob.

>>32233865
That may be what he was trying to say, but it's complete fiction. The only thing abusive about Rob's tests was dropping them. Which shouldn't affect the extractor at all.

Honestly the debate surrounding "what he meant by this" is evidence of his severe lack of ability to communicate his emotions effectively

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>>32234095
But Chimps! DDI is upper mid tier right by Arsenal! They aren't run by a man baby who can't handle criticism of his bad product!

>>32228796
Main hand charging is fine. That's how A lot of combloc soldiers do it.

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anyone know of a good AK style receiver chambered in 7.62x54r?

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>>32232284
Dawwww

>>32234196
KHAJIT HAS WARES IF YOU HAVE COIN

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>>32232587
Maybe he's sick or something.

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Baby killer enough yet?

>>32234143
VEPR, but they're built on RPK receivers

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Are the threads and whatnot on bulgarian 74 barrels chrome lined? And if they normally are, I guess my chrome is fucked.

The threads and rest of the barrel end gets rusty pretty easily after shooting corrosive ammo, I got some lithium grease for the future I had just been oiling it until now and that clearly hasn't been working well).

Is there anything I can do to help protect this shit better? I have leftover duracoat from saturday, but I don't know if that's the best plan.

>>32234143
You mean a PSL?

>>32234333
No they're not, after shooting corrosive you gotta flush out your brake (if you still are using an Arsenal US made brake they're not chrome lined) and scrub around the threads or else it'll rust real quick

Don't duracoat it, that'll just fill in the threads and make super tight

>>32234333
we talking arsenal or another bulgarian?

that's what the threads on my slr104 look like after 100 rounds because the brake is extremely loose fitting on those threads, barrel is definitely not getting corroded in any way tho.

>>32228760
left side of that AK needs an optics mounting rail.

>>32234196
I know that stock ....

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I want a AK style shotty

Are there a non-retarded expensive ones I should look at?

VEPR 12 seems to be bretty gud

This is listed at $779

>>32234486
I'd wait for the proper version to be back in stock. They were $699 a month or two ago

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/vepr-12-gauge-shotgun2014-05-27-14-55-29-1946-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32228760
JUST USE THE left hand to charge the handle

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Never done it myself before so, what's the best way to bake what I believe is some form of cosmoline off this brake

>>32234724
Just use some mineral spirits and hot water and make sure you clean/dry it afterwards.

>>32234743
What if I don't have mineral spirits but do have an oven?

Will a .22 cal cleaning rod work ok in a 5.45 barrel? I tried with the one I already had and it was tighter than boipussy in February

>>32234357
>>32234367
Thanks guys

It's a homebuilt from a bulgarian parts kit, it was a piece of shit until it landed in my lap and I rebuilt the receiver. My cold-blue didn't last very long so I duracoated it last weekend and it looks pretty great now.

>after shooting corrosive you gotta flush out your brake and scrub around the threads.
I'm usually pretty good about cleaning it right after shooting but I neglected it for a couple weeks and it got pretty bad. The photo is after scrubbing the hell out of it with a stainless brush

>barrel is definitely not getting corroded in any way tho.
Yeah, the actual barrel looks fantastic still, the crown is just a bit rougher than I would like with a bit of rust pitting.

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sks and mossberg 590 or slr-104fr?

>>32234791
wrap it up in several layers of paper towels to absorb the cosmo.
put it in the over set at around 200F or so, wrapped in the paper towels.
leave it for an hour or two, it doesn't matter.
take it out and unwrap it.
wrap it in more paper towels.
put it back in for another hour or two to see if more cosmo came out.
repeat until you have clean towels after the baking.

or you could just wipe it off, you fucking retard.

>>32235005
>wiping off the inside of ports on a brake

Do you really expect me to work that hard when I can literally melt it off

>>32235032
just wipe it you dumb faggot. it's a brake. it's not difficult.

>>32234943
Yes it should work. I just tried mine and the .22 cleaning rod dropped into the 5.45 barrel with zero resistance. You sure that cleaning rod isn't bigger than .22?

>>32235045
Push your dick through all the ports here for me then and I'm sure it'll be nice and clean

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>>32235087
Fucking mobile post

>>32234791
Get a metal trash can, a wire coat hanger, and a halogen light and hang the brake on the the wire coat hanger in the trash can and hang the halogen light inside the trash can pointed at the hanging brake

All the Cosmo will melt off the brake in a pool in the bottom of the trash can

>>32235103

Not the faggot you're arguing with, but just shoot it a few times. Once it heats up from the shots and melts then the blast of the next few rounds will blow that melted shit right out of there. Guarantee it will be completely free of cosmoline and there will be zero work involved, and you'll be out shooting your gun. We call that a win win!

>>32234991
>asking /AKG/ if you should get an AK or not

You can get a 590 anytime.

>>32235074
It's fairly wide, I've noticed it also has issues with my .223 Savage rifle. I've also noticed it works ok in larger Cal's leading me to believe it was originally meant for fudd guns.

>>32235141
but i can get an ak74 any time too, right? and I get two more guns if i go sks+590

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>>32235129
Unfortunately I still need a torch to get my old one off, AWB silver soldered brake

>>32235123
If I can find one I might try this, I've got a good bit of time to find the torch I need

>>32235141
Fucking this, gett the 104

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>>32235167
Lmk how pulling that brake goes , i need to take the one off my woo.

>>32235149
I have no idea how many diameters there are for cleaning rods, but I know I have two. One that drops down my 5.45 and .22 guns, and one that won't. Seems to me like you might have one of the bigger ones.
If you go out and buy a new one, which I really think you should, make sure it's marked specifically for .22 caliber guns.

>>32235184
Nigga just drill some holes in the muzzle cup thing opposite where you feel the recoil

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>>32235184
I've got a torque wrench if you ever need to borrow one

>>32231591
Flecky

>>32235200
That torque wrench got bluetooth? My crockpot does.

>>32235199
I though about that, you think a handrill would be ok if i had a vice?

>>32235200
I think a pipe wrench would be more suited, thanks tho .

>>32235327
>I though about that, you think a handrill would be ok if i had a vice
Nigga I was joking !!

>>32234339
Or Yugo M77 (if you can deal with a 7.62x51), or (unobtainium in the US) Yugo M91?

>>32235384
Well whats the worst that could happen ?

>>32228886
>>32228892
GB is going to be hard to replace since it is dimpled and not pinned like the FS, also not sure what the barrel diameter is for those veprs.

>>32229171
>he has to use an AK master mount because his arsenal doesn't have a side rail.
LMAO nice POS-106

I just want to stick my dick into an AK.

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>>32235562
>>32235582
Neat

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Maybe I'm just "old school", but I never spent any money tricking out my AK. I saved all of the cosmetic pimp shit for my ARs.

I like my SGL31 just the way it is.

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>>32233750
>>32233824
>>32233865
>>32233901
It seems like he was trying to show they fixed the issue, considering they gave rob a free gun I dont think they would bash him. The "This is abuse no if ands or butts" line as well as the pictures imply they are abusing the gun not rob ski.

>>32235789
Add a 74m folding stock and you're golden

>>32235789
>i'm boring and why do you like what i don't??

FTFY

>>32235850
Like I give a shit what you do to yours.

Cry more.

>>32235828
>Folding stock.
That is the one reason I don't really want an arsenal. They are all fucking side folders. Am I the weird one for wanting a fixed stock?

What kinda stock is that?

>>32235906
>this angry over plastic

Top lmao

Hey fags, I know we are being raided by tripfags, but I just placed an order on an Arsenal SLR 104 from Atlantic.My other AKs are a MAK 90 and a WASR in 762. I'm ready for that 5.45

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/arsenal-slr104fr-31-5-45x39mm-side-folding-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0
:D

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>>32232185
>mfw I stub the top of my thumb on something and this happens

When I insert a mag into my WASR, there's a loud "click!" but when I insert one into my Saiga there isn't. Does anyone know why that is and how to fix it?

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>>32232869
Mother of God that grip triggers me

>>32236091
Saiga's come with a mag well spring latch baffle. WASR's don't. You can call up K-Var and order one.

>>32232869
>check price on these
>$549
>before the election they were $499

WTF jews? I thought the prices were supposed to go DOWN after trump won!

>>32236038
You done good

>>32236024
>"Like I give a shit what you do to yours."

Does greentext make reading comprehension easier for you?

>>32236038
Nice, should be a great edition to your collection so far

>>32236138
>tfw nearly every gun at your gunshow is always overpriced

>>32236194
Well yeah, that goes without saying. I've been going to gun shows for over 10 years and I've never once seen a good deal on a gun. Always MSRP or more.

>>32235165
>AKs and their derivatives are constantly and specifically targeted by anti-gunners to be banned from import/sale/possession
>"I can get one anytime right?"

Maybe, maybe not, get them while you can. Or at the very least get them before another scare.

590s aren't going anywhere, even with their bayonet lugs and shoulder thingies that go up.

>>32235968
A lot of people feel that way actually

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>>32236138
TFW I got one at the $499 price,

>>32235968
I feel you. I prefer my fixed stock, especially considering my side-mount is in use 100% of the time anyway.

>>32235968

I have folders in both major AK calibers and I still want a fixed stock rifle in 5.45. I almost bought a SGL-31 back before the 2013 panic but I built another AR instead and have been butthurt about it ever since.

Unless the import ban gets lifted or Arsenal LV decides to bring the slr-105 back I'm fucked. Most of the used SGLs I've had a chance to buy were fed bumpfired 7n6 exclusively by guys that never dreamed the tap would be shut off and are just jumping ship.

>>32232465
You can always refuse a FFL transfer dumbass.

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>nick is STILL defending ddi

weeeeeeeeeeeeew

What you guys' opinion on vz58s? Was thinking of getting one off Atlantic

>>32236573
Refusing an FFL transfer doesn't do shit, that just means the FFL keeps your fucking gun until the company you bought it from or manufacturer sends them a return label. If you want a refund you either deal with the company you bought it from and they give you a refund and have it shipped back but a lot of places state all sales final on firearms and you can either deal with the manufacture (since were talking about aks I should warn you both century and arsenal are shit at CS) or let your gun be kept at the gunstore forever while you pout about.

>>32236704
Not an AK

>>32228756
Buckrick lmfao

>>32236150
>>32236191
T-Thanks-s
Will post when it gets here

>>32236813
I've refused three with no problems. Sucks for you DDI shill.

>>32237090
What have you refused and for what reasons?
(I'm curious because I've only ordered three guns and so far I haven't found any reason to refuse one)

>>32237632
Ruger Precision Rifle. Serial numbers.
Two AR lowers, I'm not one for nit picking but they looked like shit.

>>32237958
>Ruger Precision Rifle. Serial numbers.

What do you mean by that? The numbers didn't match on the parts?

And it's OK to nitpick on lowers. Unless you're buying blemished parts they should look perfect.

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Could've bought an AK suppressor but nooo I had to buy another Bizon mag

>>32237985
What are those Wolverine's going for? Seems like $1100 plus stamp was what I remembered from a few months ago.

>>32237985
So you have 2 of the metal ones now? At least now you can use those right off the bat and fix the feed lips on the polymer one later.

>>32235165
>Getting an AK-74
>A foreign gun that shoots an unknown foreign ammo
>A gun that is part of the "ebul black guns" family
>Anytime

Where the fuck have you been the last eight years? Get the damn AK. The fudd90 and the Siminov will be around forever.

>>32237980
Wasn't my rifle. Seller shipped the wrong box. Lol.

>>32238066
oh damn. sucks to be him (for having to pay all that extra shipping)

>>32238066
Does it really make a difference? I assume you bought a Ruger precision rifle, and just got one with a different S/N than what was specified? Why refuse it?

Is a polytech spiker in 5.56 worth getting?

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>>32237985

>>32238181
Depends on price

>>32238201
this post gave me autism

>>32238206
Place is asking $600 OTD

>>32238021
Local place has one for $925 + stamp

>>32238030
one metal, just thinking about what else I could've spent the money on.

>>32238116
He emailed me before it arrived and it was the wrong caliber. He shipped my 6.5CM to the guy wanting the .308 version.

>>32238237
You're here.
You already had autism.

>>32237090
Where did I say anything about DDI you retard?

>>32238292
That's completely different you didn't refuse the item because you didn't like it it got sent back because the seller sent the wrong item.

>>32238201
I'm sure you have plenty of stamps

>>32238458
Well two of them I refused because of it being shitty. One was shippers mistake.

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>get home with vepr today
>immediately disassemble
>start fidgeting with things
>put back together
>notice pic related
>google it
>The Scratch
>deal with it
>check your man card
>wear it like a badge
>huge paragraphs dealing with modifications to "fix" it

th-thanks...

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>>32238975
are u of joke?

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>>32238995
It's my first AK and I didn't know. Looking at all the pictures in this thread though I can definitely see it. Just never noticed it before.

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>>32238975
you ruined it just like I did, call Molot see what they can do for you.

>>32239044
If you run the safety back and forth you feel it "popping" up and down?

That's a little detent pushing into place to hold the safety. That's also what scratches the surface

It's literally nothing

>>32239044
>airsoft
>non-relevant ammo
muh autism

What optic should I put on my krink?
Thinking kobra for not-actually-authentic authenticity.

>>32239069
Yeah I realize what's doing it. Just thought it was kind of odd at first. Guess it's normal.

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>>32239115
Obzor lyfe

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>>32235562
they make it look easy. I bet it's a pain in the ass just like the BP-02 mount

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>>32239278
This tbqh m8, Obzor 4 lyfe

>>32230930
Do you like having your hand sliced by recoil as you hold your gun and shoot it?

>>32238293
Have you practiced drawing dicks? That looks pretty neat.

>>32239555
>bayonets are sharp

>>32239278
2big4me

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>>32239555
Yes.

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>>32232274
What the fuck is that ar doing in the picture?

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>>32239761
Being a normie basic AR. It was a long time ago.

I had my parents mail me a book i had as a young teenager that I used to read a lot called "AK47: The Complete Kalashnikov Family of Assault Rifles" by Duncan Long, and my copy is a 1988 edition and holy shit there's some funny straight up false information in here. I get it and I don't blame the guy because it was from before the Curtain fell and a lot of it was speculation (especially about 74s and 5.45 in general), but still stuff like:
>plum magazines ("later dark ABS plastic magazines") are less durable than bakelites ("steel reinforced fiberglass")
>74s have bayonet lugs but don't appear to have bayonets
>triangle sidefolders are made from plywood and the metal triangle sidefolders are rare
>the purpose of side folding stocks on the AKS74 is to allow use of 40 round RPK74 mags
>AKS74Us are called "AKR"s
>Krinkov dust covers are actually hinged to the barrel
>AKs are capable of at best 6 MOA

just all kinds of stuff like this that in hindsight is completely foolish and wrong but in the moment it was what we believed to be true.

>>32239313
The power of marketing

>>32239625
aks7---4U

>>32239713
You sold the yugo right?

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>>32239825
Yeah, to a friend. I kinda miss it but I just didn't shoot it all that much. I need to pick up another 7.62x39 AK at some point though.

>>32239820
Some of those are pants on head retarded, but these should have been huge red flags, even at the time, let alone in hindsight
>the purpose of side folding stocks on the AKS74 is to allow use of 40 round RPK74 mags
In what world does that make any sense?

>AKs are capable of at best 6 MOA
This was something that could have been tested. There were AKs in the country at the time for fuck's sake.

The rest can kind of be chalked up to speculation, like you said, but are mostly still retarded.

>>32238239
Holy fuck yes that's worth it. Picture?

>>32240004
in a world where the only other folding option is an under folder and you can't into under folding with 40 round clipazines. pretty sure that's what they meant.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11814876

>>32240004
Another fun one I read while skimming through is how vz.58s are chambered for 7.62x45 which is identical to the Soviet M43 (aka 7.62x39)

>>32240050
That makes sense, didn't think of that

I'm sure there's more fun stuff in here and if I find anymore worthy ones I'll post them.

>>32240050
I figured that's what they meant as well, but the soviet's would've just made doctrine "remove mag while folding or unfolding" rather than designing an entirely new system.

Anyone with any amount of common sense should have been able to figure that one out, but apparently they didn't and now it's been published for the world to see for 28 years.


>>32240065
>vz.58s are chambered for 7.62x45 which is identical to the Soviet M43 (aka 7.62x39)
It's almost as though they didn't even bother fact checking, or just pulled assumptions out of their asses.

Please post more, it's pretty amusing honestly.

>>32240166
Well he says
>at the time of this writing the USSR, DDR, Poland and Hungary are all known to be producing and adopting AK74s/variants, which wasn't the case for Hungary so that wasn't true.
>AK74 muzzle brakes are based on tank cannon brakes
>He goes on for a bit describing how the west is turning to bullpups and how AKs are ideally suited to be developed as bullpups
>Poland manufactures a large portion of AKs for Bulgaria
>Both the section on Chinese AKs and East German/DDR AKs are actually quite accurate, and to a lesser extent his info on Romanian dong handguard variations is also pretty accurate
>There are quite large sections on Finnish and Israeli AKs but I don't know enough about those to point out things that aren't obviously wrong
>Yugo AKs have a bolt hold open and Soviet/non Yugo magazines won't function in them because of this
>Most Yugo AKs cant accept bayonets due to permanently attached grenade launcher muzzle devices
That's just from the section on AKs, there's chapters about sniper rifles/DMRs, LMGs/GPMGs, SMGs, a chapter on "owning a Kalashnikov" about general maintenance, ammo, AK accessories, and more

If you wanted to build a 103 clone, could you use an older AKM kit and replace the gasblock with a 90 degree, then use the proper receiver and rear trunnion?

>>32240462
Hungos actually did make a 5.45 AK although it's a little know variant

I have pics on my laptop from Stottman's pdf book. I think it's called the NGV

The writer of the book probably didn't know about this variant because it's still not well known today so practically there's no way he could know about it in 1988. So he probably did write that off bad info. But he's coincidentally right

>>32240690
huh the more you know, before typing that I did some quick googling about Hungary ever doing anything with 5.45 but found nothing

>>32240646
There's a whole lot more to it than that. Given your lack of detailed knowledge (no offense) you would probably be satisfied by a 107FR for a 103 esque gun. Buy some Russian mags for it and shit. A smooth top cover really helps with the effect. Too drunk to go into detail about the differences but there is a lot, a lot of differences between an AKM and a 103

>>32240702
Tons of errors in the first edition of grim reaper if that's what you're reading

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>>32240729
>Tons of errors in the first edition of grim reaper if that's what you're reading
Nah I'm >>32239820, the book is a first edition copy "AK47: The Complete Kalashnikov Family of Assault Rifles" by Duncan Long I had as a kid

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>>32233161
No, that's exactly what they did, you moron. They moved all the equipment to a brand new location and set up shop there. The hoops you're jumping through basically means that Pakistan Weapons Manufacturers and PTR are the exact same company as H&K.


>>32233162
Yeah, you're right, DDI is well above the quality of Arsenal.

>>32236704
They're a meme gun that only got 15 minutes of fame because Century made them into VZ2008s and sold them for $500 for an entire kit. The side folding stocks are awful, the recoil is exaggerated compared to AKM recoil because of the reduced weight and short stroke piston action, and the only accessories you can get for it are made by shitty Israeli companies.

>>32240729
Did you ever get a that niche smooth top you were hunting for a while back?

>>32240806
No I've been looking for one for about a year or more. Just not looking very hard. Figured I would stumble across one by now

New thread

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>>32240462
>Yugo AKs have a bolt hold open and Soviet/non Yugo magazines won't function in them because of this
I thought it was the magazines that have the bolt-hold-open, and non-Yugo magazines seem to work fine in my NPAP.

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>>32240757
Nice shot, /k/omrad

>>32240805
>He came back hours later, shitposting hard as ever

DDI a shit, if you haven't seen the light yet I'm beginning to think you may be retarded

>>32238975
you didn't fuck up anon
you just took your rifles virginity

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>>32239486
I can't wait until mine comes in. My 74M clone is almost complete