Best cheap bolt action that isn't a Mosin? I need a truck

>>32218421
Savage Axis XP or Steyr M95 if you like milsurp.

>>32218421
a professionally-done old sporterization of a quality surplus rifle can be had for under $200

>>32218421
I personally like the Gew.98 mysel...
>cheap ammo

nevermind anon.

>>32218439
>Steyr M95
Enjoy $15 clips which are easy to lose and easy to damage.

>8x50r
Enjoy unobtainable ammo.
>8x56r
Enjoy shooting $1.50 each time
>milsurp
Is being hoarded by individuals to the tune of tens of thousands of rounds because Nazis lol

You can chamber and safely fire 7.62x54r but you wouldn't hit your target if you were 2 feet away with it.

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>>32218421
>Best cheap bolt action in bear/hog/PCB dropping caliber

Fixed it for you.

Category 1916 Spanish Mausers. Cursed by the Magical Fuddlore, with some actual truth in it. Are cursed by others (again some truth in it) for being "weak" compared to Real Wehraboo Mausers.

They don't gain much in auctions. Due to this fuddlore "with some truth in it".

Fun fact, they carry the emblem of fasce and axe, but it's not fascist related at all.

>>32218552
>for being "weak" compared to Real Wehraboo Mausers.
Small ring Mausers have weak chambers compared to K98s. Deal w/it.

>>32218566
>>32218421

See?

>>32218607
I mean if you want a gun to blow up in your face you can't go wrong with a Spanish Mauser.

Or you could pay less for a K98 that will handle anything you can fit in the chamber.

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you can get a Ruger American w/ Vortex 3-9 in 308 or 223 for about 450

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>>32218421

>>32218566
Anon, it's still a Mauser design bolt. Spaniards did cut corners in make and materials but it works, thanks to Paul Mauser design.

I have not heard a 1916 spanish blowing up in anyone's face because of rebarreling it in 308 or such.

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>>32218646
You can also get a Savage Axis II w/ Weaver 3-9 for 400

>>32218421
I'd probably go with a Yugo M48 over a Mosin.

>>32218667
>Anon, it's still a Mauser design bolt.
Not all Mausers are created equal.

>I have not heard a 1916 spanish blowing up in anyone's face because of rebarreling it in 308 or such.
Then you haven't looked very hard.
This becomes an even bigger problem if OP did buy it and tried to fire full power freight-train tier 8mm.

The cheapest 8mm i've seen is loaded to C.I.P specifications which i would never put in a Spanish Mauser.

>>32218718
>Then you haven't looked very hard

Proof, please.

You are just a fucking fudd or living with their lore.

>>32218421
Ishapore 2a1

It's a lee enfield copy in 7.62 Real Fuckin' Nato that holds 12 rounds that was made in the mid 20th century to supply the rest of the Indian forces because they didn't have enough FAL copies to arm all the zerg- I mean troops.

They're like 200-400, and all reviews point to them being pretty bomb ass guns

Don't get a Russian meme gun, get a reliable, fast shooting, accurate rifle in a tried and true (and now easy to get!) calibre!

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>>32218948

>>32218995
And the story was, I guess
>hand load for exotic ammo with a double powder charge
Which is the the most common fuck up with them. And also the most untold.

Come on. It was a real military service rifle. Not a Kriss Vector.

>>32219031
The fact of the matter is they can't handle high pressure and will never be able to. You put your life on the line shooting one of these unless you use specific low-pressure ammo. Even if it never explodes it'll start losing headspace.
Why bother buying a piece of shit when you can get a less shitty gun for a little more money?

>Come on. It was a real military service rifle.
So were plenty of other disasters like the INSAS. It's like shooting a .357 out of a .38. It will work for maybe 2 or 3 shots before the frame warps itself into scrap metal.

It's cool if you want to believe but the fact of the matter is the action will never be as strong as a K98 or other long action, large ring Mauser.
Christ, some of them don't even have a 3rd lug.

OP should get a Ruger or something.

>>32218992
used to own one. only complaint was the shitty indian-tier shit finish.

but otherwise a decently made firearm. third party magazines do exist now, which has made it less painful to own, if i still owned one

>>32219096
But they do handle .308 in the hands of modern enthusiasts. With no failure.

You are such an usual unapologetic fudd, please.

>OP should get a Ruger or something.

Jeff Cooper's Scout Rifle? Fudd! What a Fail in fulfilling the conditions of OP's inquiry.

>>32219167
>But they do handle .308 in the hands of modern enthusiasts. With no failure.
Once again, it's not about catastrophic failure. It's excessive wear from doing something the gun was never made to handle.
>f..fu..fudd!
lmao keep chasing that boogeyman. Fuddlore is usually based on some truth and the truth is small ring Mausers can't handle 60k psi for very long.
Why do you think SAAMI 8mm is down-loaded?
Maybe it's so people don't accidently eat metal from using shit that's too much for their Mauser.
Stop being a poorfag and buy a Mauser that can handle any ammo.

>Jeff Cooper's Scout Rifle?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth.
I was actually talking about AR-556. It's fairly cheap and Ruger quality.
Have fun with your grenade friendo.

>>32219250
>I was actually talking about
You didn't talk about anything. You just bashed things without any real knowledge base. Fudd.

>I was actually talking about AR-556
Which is not what OP asked for.

>Have fun with your grenade friendo
Which is something you never proved. At least according to the people in Youtube having these 1916 Spanish Mauser rifles in original or rebarreled forms.

It was a real service military bolt rifle. Get over it.

>>32219332
>You just bashed things without any real knowledge base.
I provided an example of a Spanish Mauser grenading because of it's poor locking strength
>n-no true .308!
>Which is not what OP asked for.
Neither is a Spanish Mauser lmao.

>Which is something you never proved
see:>>32218995
Blown up Spanish Mauser.
It's the fault of the shit action. A K98 could take anything that fit in the chamber. Even an M48 can handle better.

>It was a real service military bolt rifle
So was the INSAS, If a military decides to adopt a rifle it's because it's cheap enough to arm a military, not because it's the best thing.
deal w/it poorcunt.

>>32219368
I rest my case.

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>>32219408
Guess i remain undefeated on 4chan.

>>32219424
Not the anon you answered to. I guess you don't know what "I rest my case" actually means.

>>32219461
It's not a cheatcode to win an argument that's for sure.

>>32218646
x2

picked up a 300 memeout ranch version, pretty good for the price bracket.

>>32218509
>>Steyr M95
>Enjoy $15 clips which are easy to lose and easy to damage.
You can find them for $5. Still rather high for bent sheet metal
>>8x50r
>Enjoy unobtainable ammo.
Yeah... one can try reloading but I don't think OP is looking at that
>>8x56r
>Enjoy shooting $1.50 each time
Yeah... More the same
>>milsurp
>Is being hoarded by individuals to the tune of tens of thousands of rounds because Nazis lol
Some of us just love a straight pull action
>You can chamber and safely fire 7.62x54r but you wouldn't hit your target if you were 2 feet away with it.
What is fudd lore? While 7.62x54 will chamber and doesn't exceed chamber pressure, that case will almost always rupture (sending gas back your way). Also a .311 projectile bouncing around a .322-.323 at smallest barrel (the nominal lands size), will most likely damage the rifling more than a properly sized round.

>>32219743
>What is fudd lore?
Dunno, I've done it.

>>32220186
Did you use steel cased?
I have tried it with brass, both with a .311 projectile and .330 trying to make some more brass. I always got case ruptures.

>>32220350
>Did you use steel cased?
Yeah just plain milsurp. I agree about the bore though but mine isn't pristine so i don't really care about it.

>>32220563
Dang. Here I was hoping I found someone who had some luck in brass forming. Guess I am going to pay 75¢ (ish) for prvi brass.

>>32220634
Yeah i know, 8x56r is too expensive to plink with.
I wondered why M95s are so basement-level cheap until i tried to shoot it.
8x56r milsurp hits like a truck though when you can find it.

>>32218650
This

>>32218421
Get a Crickett

k31

Type 53 Mosin Carbine

>>32218421
Howa 1500 in your desired flavor.

>>32221496
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>>32218439
>Savage Axis
Same, b.

>>32220818
.22lr isn't going to stop bears.

>>32218552
>Fun fact, they carry the emblem of fasce and axe, but it's not fascist related at all.
Not all of them

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>>32218566
My Swedish Mauser says hi. A couple of weeks ago this old girl ate a factory double-charge without even having the headspacing change. Swedish metallurgy ain't nothing to fuck around with.

>>32223053
.22 bounces around inside the body, causing total devastation

Go to any pawn shop and pick whatever hunting rifle in 308 or 30.06

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>>32218421
Got a Mosin question for you guys. Tula or Izhevsk. Is there a difference? Does one have a reputation over the other?

pls help

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>>32223090
Where does one buy a Swedish Mauser??

>>32225701
Gotchu senpai. If it says 7.62x54r on the receiver, walk away.

>>32224650
Im actually a manager at a pawn shop. Where I live, it's hard as hell to find one that isn't a fudd deluxe model.

I think the FR8 makes a pretty nice truck rifle. Short handy Mauser action in .308 with peep sights.

>>32225848
Seriously though. Joking aside I already own a K98 (although its a Russian capture) and a SMLE. I figured it would be cool to buy a Mosin to round out the collection, but since I shoot them pretty regularly I just wanted an opinion on it

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>>32218421
Suprised no one has suggested Turkish mausers yet. Massively underappreciated, perfectly serviceable guns. I bought my model 1893 here for a whopping $160 and it shoots sub-2 MOA with my handloads

>>32218552
got one of these too, in 7x57, still haven't shot it though. a lot of them were converted to .308 when they were imported but supposedly the loads should be kept light in them since the small ring action really isn't meant for some of the hot commercial loadings that are available

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>>32226165
after actually reading the thread I realize I didn't need to mention the .308 thing I guess.

I should sell this thing, I don't feel like buying dies and handloading for it, too many more interesting guns to play with already

So if I don't reload my own ammo and I buy whatever ammo is cheapest I shouldn't get one of the stupid cheap Spanish Mausers they have on some of the gun websites?
What ammo would I need to get for a Spanish Mauser to keep it from KFB?

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Got a Yugo too, can't remember the last time I took it out, 3-4 years at least

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>>32225836
Internet

this one came from RIA in a 5 gun lot

>>32226148
Hex bolts were pre war and of better quality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin%E2%80%93Nagant

>>32226273
also while we're on the subject of cheap mausers on the internet, go check on Simpson ltd for a husqvarna mauser. they have shit-loads and they're ridiculously cheap

>>32226227
The Spanish mausers are one of the better versions available. If they are in fact available for "stupid cheap", buy one immediately. Any modern ammo is fine, though American-manufactured ammo is usually under-loaded so if you want to get the full power out the round stick with Euro loads. Older surplus ammo is usually corrosive, which isn't really that big of a deal if you know what you're getting and clean the rifle appropriately.

Savage axis if you want new. If milsurps your thing, I can't recommend a Swedish Mauser highly enough. Ammo's a pain but it's smoother than butter and pretty damn accurate.

>>32226361
J&G has 'em for about 180. I might just have to get myself one for Christmas.
I've got a nugget and a tokarev and a ton of corrosive ammo so one more dirty shooter won't bother me much.

Spanish Mausers are fairly cheap. Get one in .308, they aren't "too weak" unless rusted to shit. Large Rings can take .458 Winchester Magnum rechamberings, there's no reason why small rings can't take .308's. Hell, the K98a was chambered in 8mm Mauser and people loved them.

Other than that you're stuck with el-cheapo bullshit rifles. Ruger American, Savage Axis, whatever the hell Winchester just came out with...best of these is probably the Mossberg Patriot, which is somehow powerful enough to handle a .375 Ruger. You're gonna need a scope. Because you already have a Mosin I suggest going with a .223 simply because you already have a full power rifle.

Failing that, you can try to find a used post-64 Winchester or 2000's era Marlin. They are generally unloved but effective assuming they're of good manufacture. If they're not, send them back.

>>32223053
That's why you always have a friend with you.