What caliber does pic related come in. Also stupid political

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Please do try to contain your anger. This is a blue board.

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As bad a picture as they try to paint this one, I think common firearm knowledge might be useful.

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Ok now this one just flat out retarded

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>>32207715
"WeLL-ReGULATeD MiLiTiA"
I tried to find how many regulations there were in the 1770s, couldn't find anything...

Also, what's up with the mixed cases?

>>32207698
30,000mm
>>32207715
>Knockoff Horsey
>>32207722
>God given rights arent valid if technology progresses
>>32207738
>30,000 gun deaths
>100,000 deaths from heart disease
Nigger this country has 320 Million people who cares lmao

>>32207698

50,000 mm Obese Compact

>>32207757

>he doesnt understand the difference between disease and violent deaths

>>32208119

>obese compact

Is that a lingerie size now?

>>32207748
Well-regulated back then meant that the militia were trained and well, regulated. Nowadays people take the literal meaning to think that the founding fathers were pro-registry.

>>32208126
You're right. The heart disease is preventable.

>>32207715
The funny thing is that by the 18th century definition the one on the right is more well regulated, as in armed and equipped.

>>32208134
>>32208203
Also, isn't a Militia that is regulated by the government an oxymoron?

>>32208161

It isnt, considering how 60% of you Americans are obese.

>>32208226
>60%
I honestly don't believe that. Not that there isn't a bit of a fat problem around here, but almost 2/3 of the country being obese? That's bullshit.

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This looks like a thread that should be on /pol/

the US armed forces ARE the well regulated militia

the founding fathers never intended random assholes to have AK's

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>>32208482

>>32207738
>>32208126
>30,000
>2/3rds of the deaths are suicides

>>32208482
Me and Ivanka are happy regardless of what the founding fathers think.

Kindly fuck off statist.

I believe that is .1776

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>>32207722
>how dumb can you be

Apparently, pretty dumb. "Constitutional lawyers" like Obama (and >>32208482
) don't even seem to be able to use and apply the term "milita" accoring to it's period meaning. These pundits are either dangerously incompetent or jaust have malicious plans which require people be defenseless.

>>32207698
Looks chambered in 17.76

>>32208206
Militias are typically irregular forces mobilized by a government to provide additional manpower in a war, often defensively.
An example would be a town under attack by Indians. Since there's not likely to be a garrison of any substantial size, the mayor or equivalent authority figure could call "all able bodied men" to up arms and fight them.

>>32207748

Regulated means functioning well amd correctly. Like a regulator on a SCUBA tank keeps it from popping your lungs, it makes the apparatus "regulated".

Regulations are generally, nowadays, rules and rule books. For instance, Ay Regulation 27-10 is the one about the UCMJ. That book, if followed, will ensure that the Uniform Code of Military Justice functions exactly as it is supposed to.

So because the colloquial understanding of "regulation" means "rule books" the colloquial reading of " a well regulated militia" means one with lots of rules dictating and controlling it.

Yes, written regulations ARE necessary to the functioning of a militia, you can't just have it run wild, but "well regulated" also, literally means a militia that can do the things a militia must, by definition, do. A militia needs arms to fight battles, and a militia is by definition made up of the common people. So the common people MUST have arms, at the ready, so they can form into a fighting unit very quickly. Otherwise it is no longer a militia.

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>>32208549
You get a GO at this station.

>>32207698
.45 ACP

>>32207698
Alaskan cartridge

>>32208455
>assault weapons are the same thing as automatic weapons.

I thought society was moving forward.

>>32207722
That cartoon doesn't make any sense.

Freedom express.

>>32207730
Edu/k/ation in action

>>32208567
And do those arms have to be personally owned?

>>32207757
>God given rights

>he thinks the Founding Fathers are gods

Well, at least you're living up to burger stereotypes

>>32209841
>he thinks the government grants right
I can't stand you cocksuckers

>>32209690
It's literally
>guns are scary now, you plebs can't be trusted with them

>>32209877
>stealing someones name
God you sure showed him kid
WOW you are cool!

>>32209816
Not necessarily for a militia; theoretically the government could issue arms while it was raising the militia. However, that means that you're counting on the situation being such that the army and/or police are unable to intervene in the situation, but that the government is still capable of the massive logistical operation of arming the entire militia they're raising, in addition to providing food and other materials.

It makes more sense (if the goal is to able to call up a militia as quickly as possible) for people to have personal arms that they can bring. There is the obvious problem that modern guns require much more specialized parts specific to each model of weapon to maintain them, so you would not want to see how this non-standard militia does after a long period of service (not even mentioning the many different kinds of ammo they would need). But if you need a bunch of armed people right now to repel the British, personally owned arms > centrally supplied munitions.

>>32208482
Founding Fathers were very clear that the 'militia' and 'standing army' were not at all the same thing.

One of the Federalist papers even said that the people would never have to fear the 'standing army' so long as the 'militia' of the people was strong enough to fight against them.

>>32207738
That's not really a lot compared to drugs and car accidents.

>>32209893
Get fucked :^)

>>32207738
Gun deaths. So is that the good deaths caused in self defense, or the bad deaths like suicide?
Moronic image.

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>>32208482
except you have shit for brains and are 100% wrong. in colonial times there was no federally organized army (like that exists today). in that very strict definition, then US armed forces would be the militia. multiple revisions have occurred since, and now theres a distinct separation from an unorganized civilian militia and organized military militia.
>the founding fathers never intended random assholes to have AK's
the founding fathers said you could own humans and wield cannons. they were in favor of civilians owning the most powerful weaponry of the day. unless you have some reading material to contradict this fact, I will again re-assert the shit-like-nature of your brain

>>32207698
313822080mm US

Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people

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>>32209841

https://youtu.be/1alljvP_org

>>32207698
177.6 cal.

>>32208161
So are gun deaths, at least to some extent.

>>32209877
The government grants rights by promising not to perform certain actions. The "right to bear arms" simply means the government promises not to take away your guns. Without that right, you might still be able to bear arms, however the government would be free to take away your guns whenever they want.

>>32212613
Rights are not granted, they are inherent.

>>32207698
jesus, but the barrel... jesus

>>32207722
>cheap
Ahahaha fuckin liberals

>>32207722

>>I know, let's make a law that you can only bear arms that are only sort of lethal, kinda.

As a moderate pro-gunner I'll say there are some good anti-gun points but holy fuck does this one make me cringe. It suggests that if the founders of the US had access to future technologies, they would have outlawed them and possibly not have used them in wars because they'd be >>too<< lethal. Wat. Fucking wat.

>>32212463
(you)

>>32207730
>Ff
>Funeral
>Not Fun
Would a kind /k/omrade edit this for future purposes? While at it, go ahead and improve it as you see fit.

>>32207715
Now what's funny is that, looking at the times, the one on the left is more well armed. Think about it, muskets were basically the height of firearms in the 1770's, wheres the man on the right's rifle is likely 5.56 with a 30 round magazine and semi-auto, whereas the guns used by cops are the same but fully automatic.

>>32207722
>30 accurate rounds in seconds
SHIGGY DIGGY

>>32208455

But those are all legit reasons.

>>32207738
>30,000
>majority of which are suicides
>majority of the remainder of which are in self defense
>majority of the remainder of THOSE is with pistols
And how many does obesity kill again?

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>>32212717
>I'll say there are some good anti-gun points

Do gif related, but with a real gun.

>>32208482
leave

>>32209893
Agreed

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>>32207698
>I'll say there are some good anti-gun points
>As a moderate pro-gunner
Is "moderate pro-gunner" the new "pro-gun-safety" and other newspeak that they're coming up with?

>>32212513
>stand up to these thugs
Holy shit this is moronic. Do liberals ACTUALLY think the NRA advocates mass murder?

>>32212891
>commit suicide because you have a differing opinion
Back to North Korea with you

>>32209688
"assault weapon" can mean anything you want it to.

>>32208482
10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

At least understand the nation's laws before you try and change them, you dumb mother fucker

>>32207698

The barrel measures around 1200 kilometers in width.

Caliber is based of the width of any projectile as a percentage of 1 imperial inch (2.54 centimeters). Example being the M2 BMG having a .50 caliber or 50% of 1 caliber. This equates nicely to 1.27 centimeters/12.7mm.

-1200 KM * 1000 (From kilometers to meters) = 1200000 meters.

-1200000 meters * 100 (From meters to centimeters) = 120000000 centimeters.

-120000000 centimeters / 2.54 centimeters (from width in cm to caliber by dividing by an inch) = 47244094.489.

By comparison: The Little David mortar has a caliber of 35.984 (914mm).

>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David

For phone posters:

>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_David

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>>32207738
>muh 30,000 gun deaths
>meanwhile, over 400,000 people die annually from medical malpractice in a """""first-world country"""""
>you are far more likely to die from a doctor than a bullet

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>>32208131

>>32212891
That would be unsafe anon.

>>32212843
>C
>Clipazine

>>32208482

(You)

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>>32209841
>>he thinks the Founding Fathers are gods
You're goddamned right.

>>32213244
So, if I get shot, I shouldn't go to the doctor?

>the founding fathers never could have foreseen technology advancing and firearms becoming more powerful

>but a poem written by a jewess over a century ago definitely refers to south and central americans and muslims from halfway across the globe

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>>32207715
>>32207715
>hundreds of rounds per minute
>not atleast a thousand

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>>32208455
(((Screenberg)))

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>>32208482
>The government is here to protect us

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>>32207730
>>32212843
For (You)

>>32214533
hippies were never "us"

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>>32208455

I thought I was immune to anger from these shitty sketches, but the top right panel pissed me off.

How dare you belittle the servicemen of the WWII/Korea generation to push your shitty politics.

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>>32214684
>>>/pol/

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>>32214643
thanks, bratan. much love for that.

>>32214784
Is.. is that Will Smith?

>>32214735
Same, fuck whoever drew that shit, oh wait >STEVE GREENBERG

>>32207738
>30,000 in a society of 336,000,000 people
>Even if you could somehow eliminate literally every gun death from happening by simply enacting a ban, you would only be eliminating less than a percentage of deaths in any given year

These people really do run on nothing but emotions, because if you just even considered the numbers you'd realize how dumb furthering gun control is.

>>32214784
Black Panthers weren't hippies.

>>32215887
It's even dumber when you consider that most gun deaths come from handguns but most gun control goes to regulate random bits and bobs on "assault weapons".

This thread is just a half-assed raid by Leftypol

Also, this has NOTHING to do with weapons.
>>>/pol/
Move this steaming pile of shit to where it belongs.

>>32216012
I started the thread because I wanted to shit talk stupid comics about gun control. But I can see why you'd think this was some type of raid.

>>32216012
>leftypol

1776mm

>>32207722
>cheap
>highly accurate
>seconds
The only dumb people here are us :^(

>>32208226
>2/3rds of a selection biased, poll answering group of fat asses in Southern states are obese
I can believe it

also

citation needed

>>32207698
.1776 cal

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>>32212717

>>32207722
Arms should only be given to the wealthy and the poor cannot be trusted with them.

>>32216515
Agreed

>>32216463
Fucking top kek, saved.

>>32216522
>Low-quality bait to try to get poorfags to prove his point and argue
OwO WATS DIS?

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>>32212613
Agreeing not to take something isn't the same thing as giving something you mentally deficient individual.

>>32216653
functionally it is considering something like 60-70% of the worlds civilian owned firearms are in the US

>>32212613
>The government grants rights
The rights enshrined in the constitution exist on their own. The government just promises not to infringe on them.

>>32216686
Ok, for christmas I won't steal your car. You're so much better off now! Aren't I magnanimous :D

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>>32208482

>>32216728
jesus christ you're fucking retarded aren't you

THE SECOND AMENDMENT GAVE EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO OWN ARMS, SO THEY BOUGHT AND PRODUCED SO MANY OF THEM IT IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THEM AWAY OR RESTRICT THEM, WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME OUTCOME FROM SPECIFICALLY ARMING ALL CIVILIANS

AKA, YES IN THIS CASE THE DISTINCTION DISAPPEARS YOU IDIOT

>>32216756
>the 2nd amendment gave people the right to own arms
No my friend, you are retarded. I know the federal cock in your throat is cutting off your air supply, but attempt to comprehend the following:

Certain rights are natural to humans. Things like life, liberty, freedom of expression, etc.
These rights exist in a vaccum, you would still have them if you were the only living person. Thus, the government can either infringe upon them or abstain from infringing upon them. The government deciding not to interfere isn't a gift, it's how the world should work.

>>32216756
The second Amendment only recognizes there is a natural right to bear arms, and acts to prevent the US government from taking away that right. Lrn2Civics.

>>32213978
That would multiply your chance to meet Charles Darwin.

>>32215939
This. They are niggers.

>>32212613
>government grants rights

Are you fucking retarded?

>>32207757

>God given rights arent valid if technology progresses

Just rights you bible thumping retard.

>>32218344
>God given rights are not real because I don't believe in one

They are God given you fedora tipping cunt.

>>32207698
.38 Special

>>32212935
They do, massmurder increases gun sales.

>>32212935
Yes.