What does /k/ think of the manhack from Half-Life 2? http:/

>>32204661
They would be much more effective IRL than in the game.

I hadn't thought about it, but I have to assume that the blades are just that, and provide no lift, and the entire unit floats around with the same antigravity bullshit the rest of their antigravity bullshit uses to float around.

I think it would be a lot more effective if it just carried a grenade, but god damn that would be annoying in game.

>>32204661
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX

>>32204661
>rendered usesless by a stick or pipe

>>32204661
I used to capture them in mid-air and smash them against walls or other hard surfaces with the gravity gun.

The resistance could have dealt with them pretty easily if they had hung a bunch of fine wires from the roof of every sewer entrance. The blades might cut a few, but eventually they'd get tangled.

>>32204758
A person could be rendered useless by a stick or pipe

>>32204661
Fuck those little fuckers.

>Incredibles tier

>>32204815
A person doesn't rely on rubbing it's body against you to hurt you

>>32204815
With enough charm or lube, any human can be seduced into complacency with a stick or pipe

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>>32204661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4azx5Z-IhM

>>32204774
oh fuck I thought I was the only one
>grabbing them with the grav gun and pressing them into eachother one at a time to destroy them even though just using the crowbar or pistol would be much faster

>>32204733
>god damn that would be annoying in game
You mean horrifying?

Would they be effective in real life?

>>32205608
No.

>>32205608

Maybe if you had a quadrotor that carried a grenade or some shit it could be remote controlled by infantry as a non-line of sight means to clear out fortifications.

>>32205608
>>32205640

You bet they would be effective.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2413231/Roman-Pirozek-Jr-Man-decapitates-remote-control-helicopter.html

Remote controlled, armed, fixed-wing suicide UAVs with small warheads for use by infantry already exist, see the Switchblade or BattleHawk UAVs.They are said to be very effective, too. Troops in Afghanistan can't get enough of them.

>>32204836
A woman does.

>>32204836
>what is reap

>>32205557
Keeping the last hack captive to use as a chainsaw vs combines

>>32205608
>>32204733
>>32206110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tZB44fL5tw

>>32204758
>Or crowbar...

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>>32204836

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Since we're on this topic.

How effective would be a Strider on modern day warfare? How it would be taken down?

>>32209020
pretty easily, i guess

>>32209020
I bet a 120mm APDS would probably go right through it.

hell I bet a HV 75mm could take that thing down

>>32209020
pgm

>>32209020
>couple of guys push one of its legs
>falls over

>>32209041
>>32209047
>>32209050

But you guys have to consider a few stuff. Like how he can quickly moves and take cover, plus the strong plasma(???) machine gun and the ray gun.

>>32209020
>How effective would be a Strider on modern day warfare?

Somewhere on the SDK forums, there's a post talking about where all the combine synths are best used. like; Striders are never used on the coast, but are used heavily in cities, Hunters are only used in the wilderness, etc.

>>32209087

I'll take a look on that, thanks.

But it's a bit weird how the Hunters aren't used in urban warfare. They're small and quick.

>>32209073
>Like how he can quickly moves and take cover,
Not particularly impressive when you go from 5 stories tall to 2 stories, that's still pretty exposed
>strong plasma(???) machine gun
That can be stopped with corrugated iron sheet, a tank would be basically invulnerable
>ray gun
Which it choreographs and takes time to prime, allowing everyone to take cover or exploit the gap

>>32209103
You would think so, though it was probably more due to that fact that Valve hadn't finished the Hunter design in episode 1, so they don't show up.

There is the AR3 guy, who knows nothing about fighting Hunters, because he's from the city.

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While not effective, I'd imagine Cremators to do a good job of demoralizing troops if you put them in the right spots.

>>32209117

>That can be stopped with corrugated iron sheet, a tank would be basically invulnerable

I am thinking on a more realistic scenario. I mean, that machine gun would probably penetrate a few armored vehicles, buildings for sure.

If it was bullets i'd say that his gun was a 30 or 40mm.

>>32209121

I see. There's a channel that explains about all the HL enemies, i remember the guy saying that the Hunter was actually meant to appear on HL2.

>There is the AR3 guy, who knows nothing about fighting Hunters, because he's from the city.

Makes sense.

>>32204661
>they took out every last interesting thing from HL2

Still makes me mad

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>>32209181

You're talking about original concept they had going on right? If I remember right valve made the changes because they wanted to the player to fight for a dying world, not a dead one. But I do feel you, I'm a sucker for overly bleak apocalyptic shit myself.

The idea of the entire world being nothing more than a barren rock devoid of all life, the air being nothing more than toxic fumes and humanity being just barely surviving in a select few cities with dwindling resources makes my dick wet.

>>32209117
>That can be stopped with corrugated iron sheet, a tank would be basically invulnerable
That's more for gameplay reasons though, isn't it? (if you're talking about the final boss in episode 1)
Also, there's a wrecked tank in the sewers under C17. I guess you could write that off as another combine miritary unit destroying it though, the current military is just to keep the human populace in check.

>>32209150
These things are creepy, there's one in the beta.

>>32204661
I remember reading somewhere that originally when hl2 was in development the game was supposed to be much darker. The rebels operating the railway were going to be covered in scars from Manhack attacks. Also, Manhacks were used more to inflict fear and non-lethal wounds than to outright kill. They're a psychological weapon.

Whenever I hear that whining noise they make, I start throwing grenades - they're the only enemy that actually scares me.

>>32209231

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLaDpqsxSaQ

Cremator.

>>32209231
originally Manhacks were supposed to be partly controlled by people playing what they thought was a game but in reality they'd be killing rebels in real life. Pretty grimdark and doesn't make much sense but still

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IIRC the enemies you encounter in the game are just those used to occupy earth. In the 7 hour war the Combine used different forces so obviously the Stalker isn't exactly suited for bigger-scale warfare cause that's not what it's supposed to be good at

>>32209071
>couple of guys push one of its legs
>it impales one of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddJ1OKV63Q
go to 21:45

>>32209321

Wish they made a mod about the 7 hour war. With the enemies that wasn't put on game.

Too bad Gaben only cares about Steam Sales bux now.

>>32209355
More like
>Too bad Valve only cares about competitive games now, and the crates in those games.

>>32209374

I JUST FUCKING WANT MY HL3, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK???

>>32209391
Yes, it can't be milked as a competitive first person shooter cash cow

>>32204661

Combine weapons are pretty terrifying desu.

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>>32209408

>You hear a loud noise in the distance

>>32209404
Is this why it's taking so long? Gaben trying to figure out how he can incorporate loot crates into a single player game?

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>>32209288
>The Combine made Omikron: The nomad soul

>>32209418
>pssshhhhhhh
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQSOp9Njvn0 starts playing

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>>32209408

I actually liked their soldiers. Like how there were standard soldiers, spec ops, prison guards(nova prospekt) and civil protection.

Combine military was pretty "human" in that sense. Maybe they adapt their military to the world that they dominate, idk.

>>32209457

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOEEmwuUXP4

Why havenholm was such a shithole compared to the rest?

>>32209475
Because it was a rebel town that the Combine shelled the shit out of, I'm pretty sure Valve stated somewhere that the town in Lost Coast is Ravenholm.

[spoiler]Being a shithole doesn't stop it from being great tho[/spoiler]

>>32209464
>Combine military was pretty "human" in that sense. Maybe they adapt their military to the world that they dominate, idk.

Somewhere in the Citadel I think you see humans being turned in combine soldiers. They turn the lifeforms from all of the worlds they invade into synths, the strider, dropship and gunship are all aliens fused with machines.

>>32209041
>>32209047

They are impervious to anything you can carry and need somewhere between 5 and 14 RPG direct his to die, depending on your difficulty setting. It won't be a cakewalk.

>>32209391
>>32209430
HL3 will literally never come out. They're not working on it, they don't give a fuck, and they wouldn't make any money on it anyway because it would literally never live up to the fucking insane hype people are assigning to it.

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>>32209496

Yes, with the headcrabshell, right?

It was great, kinda like a survival horror. The fast zombies were a pain in the ass, throwing me down the bulding and i had to fight all the headcrabs on the streets. lol

>>32209524

Human in a sense of military. Like having ranks, special forces, air-force. Navy maybe?

They adapt their fighting skills to the world that they dominate. Like the anon said earlier, in 7 hour war the Combines used soldiers that didn't appear to the game, so i assume that they inspired their Earth military from the ones that they fought during the war.

Yes, the combines were basically humans that got transformed. I believe some of the civil protection were actual humans that decided to work with the Combines.

That's why the combine soldiers speak a different language than the Civil protection.

>>32209550

It's a justified hype. All HL are god-tier games IMO.

>>32209600
>tfw still waiting for Black Mesa's official release with Xen

>>32209614

It already got released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln4wUFbPkNk

>>32209588
>That's why the combine soldiers speak a different language than the Civil protection.

They can still understand and speak English. When you're in nova prospekt, waiting in one of the guard rooms there's a breencast where breen threatens the guards if they can't do better than the overwatch forces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAtOJX6Aq3U

>>32209614
>wanting the shitty part of a good game remastered in a shitty remastered

>>32209636

Yes, they were humans before after all so i guess they let a few stuff in the minds, like english.

Still, doesn't make much sense why they speak the Combine language while in combat rather than english.

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>>32209418

That one I thought was actually quite stupid...


If that thing smashes into the ground, how the fuck are all of the headcrabs inside not liquefied due to the tremendous acceleration force?

Vx gas would be more effective.

>>32209925
Stabilised inside or something, like a huge spring. Could be worked into the mechanism that breaches the top so the headcrabs can crawl out.

>>32209995
That still wouldn't solve the impact problem...

>>32204661

in large swarms that would be nightmare fuel

>>32209681

I would imagine that the purpose of that is to communicate in combat without letting their opponents know what they're saying.

>>32204836
Except if it's a /k/ommando.

I would have to assume it uses a pair of connected ballasts, and the blades actually have a gimbal to change lift direction.

>>32209632

The Xen part was my least favorite aspect of HL1 to be honest.

>>32210052

True that. Still, quite silly since the Civil protection speaks english when in combat.

>>32210128

I quite liked it, but my favorite part was the Lambda Lab arch.

>>32209531
i played hl2 on highest difficulty multiple times, they don't take close to 14 RPG hits, 5 is more like it

>>32210319
I'm pretty sure it's 3 on easy, 5 on med, 7 on hard.

The fight outside the bank was a pain on hard, I remember it taking ages just to kill one strider.

>>32209588
>The fast zombies were a pain in the ass
I played Ravenholm with the Gravity Gun only for the achievement, died a couple of time at the point where Father Grigori sends the tram over to you and you have to fight like 4 fast zombies. Later i found out that you can just sprint in circles and they almost never hit you, they weren't that scary afterwards

>>32210358
I just hit the lever and then ran back to the walkway and hid in the house. The part with the slow elevator just jump down with a health pack.
You can complete Ravenholm in under 15 minutes if you're quick.

>>32209681
they are still speaking english it's just pitch shifted so you can't hear it properly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxVFM3V_Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBBmyF-1sQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhwN_w_0XQ

>>32209681
>they speak the Combine language while in combat
What? I heard them speak english. They just have a radio embedded in their larynx.

>>32210343
you are right they take 7 on normal and hard. well that fight wasn't that hard anymore once you got to the box with unlimited rocket ammo

>>32210400
but killing zombies with buzzsaw blades and exploding barrels is so much fun why would you rush through Ravenholm?

>>32210903
If I'm playing HL2 I'll either rush through the game as quickly as possible, or take my time and try and find new things.

I've played through probably 15~ times in the last few years.
I just find the game so, enjoyable I guess?

>>32209340
okay I see how about this
>someone throws a nade near its legs
>once again falls over

Or atleast it should in a real life scenario, assuming anyone would be retarded enough to design something so big with legs so fucking thin and mass produce it

>>32206236
Under fucking rated

>>32211077
>someone throws a nade near its legs
>nothing happens because it's legs are made of space chitin

It takes 5-7 direct hits with a RPG to kill one.
Or a robot ripping its brain out.

>>32211162
>what is being thrown off balance
Alright maybe this will be easier to imagine for you, picture someone driving a really fast car into one of its legs, does "muh space chin" make it a magical immovable object?

>>32211231
yes

>>32210023
Fluid would help.
>Slimy goo flows out then headcrabs rush out.

>>32211250
Basic fucking physics was never your thing was it

>>32211330
yo man you got a fucking E from psyhics at the end of semester last year i know you lol

>>32211505
yet somehow >>32211250 manages to be dumber than me

>>32211519
yo man but you are from polan we're not allowed to own guns here lol wut u doin on dis board

>>32211532
i got asg weapon i am military american hero

>>32211549
yo man ya trollin arent ya

>>32206236
Holy fuck, my sides

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>>32204988
AND THEY DONT STOP COMMIN

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>>32209020
Gee, I don't know

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>>32204661

I suppose there were worse ways of dying out there

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>>32211824
Much worse ways

>>32209020
Well It probably couldn't walk on anything but concrete so yknow just live in the woods.

>what is ground pressure

Also it's gun is meh and you can probably just shoot it's belly and joints

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>always think manhacks were not really scary
>think I could take one out easily with a bat
>see this vid
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PptMrBFAO-A&feature=youtu.be&t=26
>mfw

>>32212525
jesus christ pls be fake

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>>32214821
Not fake
Those little RC copters have a ridiculous power to weight ratio so a skilled "pilot" can fly this thing in pretty much any direction and orientation and change direction instantly.

>>32204661
fighting them when I was younger felt intense. I think their design as a shock and awe weapon would be effective irl.

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>>32212525

>Get one of thoses
>hire the pilot
>tweak it to use uncommon frequencies to control the thing
>attach remote controlled small explosives
>even a a fucking taped knife would do
>not even the president is safe from that

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>>32209464
Nothing like removing one authoritarian government with another.

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>>32209632
That's just a fan port of the xen levels from Half Life Source using BM textures, though.

Xen still isn't out.

>>32215397
>>32214821
>>32212525
people die to them semi-often too. Those 700-800 size helis with carbon fiber blades will kill you instantly.

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>>32204661
Well the Scanner Drone has already been made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtnHPNlzCz8

Not too far off from manhacks now.

>>32212525
somewhat like when a dragon fly gets angry

>>32209020
Punji pits and gigantic bear traps

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>>32206236

>>32215702
chuckled at the filename

>>32218537
Thank