>Finland fighting on the side of the commies in a Cold war

Not likely, but not impossible.

There were commies in Finland. If they ever had the numbers to control the government who know what could have happened.

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Finns would've fought to the bitter end, and only have been taken by force. Depending on the time Ruskies would've invaded during Cold War, it might've taken anything from a couple weeks to few months.
Most FDF troops would've been issued with WW2 era shit still during early 70s, as is apparent in this photo.

>>32179259
And since the onset of the soviets big leap in tech. They would have crushed finland. AKMS, T-72s, new ways to overcome the finnish environment. Finland stood no chance after World War 2.

I'd doubt Nato would come and save them.

Binland Funland would rather die than give in to commies once more, they have a deep seated hate for russkies that goes beyond USSR's annexation back to Mongolia's attempts to conquer Russia

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>>32179309
it's not like Finns would've had relatively "modern" tech back then as well (literal AKs, their own RK-62, few portable AT weapons, tons of artillery...), but there was a big lack of everything. It's one reason why there still is such a huge focus on literal guerrilla warfare in FDF, especially in the case of the almost legendary Rangers: for most of the 20th century (and definitely even today), any war against ruskies would've been pinnacle of "Grab (rifle), go innawoods". Wolverines and all that jazz, all while hoping the Comrad won't just press the big red button and nuke all the cities out of existence.

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>>32179404
>*it's not like Finns wouldn't have had
FTFM
...still, good ol' M39 and Suomi saw plenty of use in conscripts' hands all the way until early 90s.

In game they have a coalition with Poland. And Yugoslavia pairs with the Czechs

>>32179089
I doubt Finland would have found that acceptable, nor would the Soviet Union require their help.

Finland trod a fine line with the Soviets (Finlandization) but I doubt that conciliation went as far as fighting for the Russians.

>>32179614
This is all theoretical alternative history stuff. It's clear that there was a hostile take-over at some point in the game's history, probably aided by few inside guys in the ranks of politicians and other important jobs.

>>32179637

In this timeline there was no German reunification and the warsaw pact survived into the 90's when the game is set.

>>32179614
Play Airland Battle campaigns. There was communist revolution in Finland.

>>32179089
Fucking impossible. Even Finnish hippies hate Russia, it's a huge part of their national identity.

>>32179089

It's a game that has a "story" purely to justify more nations on each side.

Also, Iran REDFOR when? I want to see American vs Iranian F-14s

Anyone else having serious graphical bugs with the latest Wargame update?

The graphics are broken into cascading rainbow colors on my PC, but the laptop works fine, and it's only for this game.

>M91 Vihor removing Merkavas
>Stg44 equipped infatry mowing down jew inf

OY VEY!

ITS ANOTHER SHOAH!

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>>32179259
>Tfw shot my 1941 m39 today

>>32179089

Haven't played the game in ages, just noticed the DLC for it. Worth getting?

There actually is a line in the game that some of the units speak that means "Hey sarge, weren't we supposed to be a neutral nation?"

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>>32179089

>The face of a man told he's fighting for the Russkies against the other Scandinavian countries

>>32180153
>The graphics are broken into cascading rainbow colors on my PC
Sounds like a serious hardware malfunction, mate. Check your temps & update drivers.

>>32179089
>Finland
>on the same side as Russia

wew

Even most Finnish commies were skeptical of Russia when they were actually relevant in Finland.

A lot of the Soviet bootlickers were ironically killed by the Soviets when they escaped from Finland to the USSR after the civil war.

And after WWII (when the commies were at their strongest post civil war) they were still ways of from forming a successful rebellion and even if they had there would have been considerable animosity towards Russia among the working class base the commies drew their support from.

>>32180467
its a pure balance decision. bluefor already has problems with people stacking on them and never changing to redfor

>>32180505
Well 2bh OP didn't ask why the devs put Funland on the Russian side but whether there was any hint of "historic realism" to the idea.

I do understand that games have to be relatively flexible when it comes to history for the sake of balance and fun gameplay (see BF 1).

Reality of war is often boredom inducing and doesn't translate into a game very well.

tl;dr I was just answering OP's question

>>32180400
It's only for the one game, probably something wrong with the latest Nvidia driver.

Why does Eugene still keep the MEME Union? Where's the modern Russia pack?

>>32180601

There's a hint that they're working on Wargame 4, in that case I expect it to be modern/near future which will no doubt have modern-day Russia.

>>32180153

Try running the game in windowed mode

>>32180153
Two options: run it in windowed/borderless windowed, or change the renderer from DX11 to DX9. Either one should fix it.

Technically, the third option is to downgrade your drivers but that's not worth it.

Finland are and always have been trash at fighting.

>Muh winter war

Its not hard to sit in foxholes and wait for your enemy to die of frostbite.

Also conscript armies have always been shit tier and will never be as good as volunteer armies
Finland are a joke

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>>32181585

Fortunately the Yugoslavian army that was also added in more than makes up for them.

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>>32181585
>Also conscript armies have always been shit tier and will never be as good as volunteer armies
Yeah, say that to Germany & Japan.

>>32181670
And look what happened to those countries

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>>32181729
>One's a literal "Wow, it took THREE of you to take me down!", after conquering most of Europe
>The other were literally NUKED to succumb
>both literally BTFO the opposition for five years, and pushed technology & war-tactics forward by leaps.
Yeah yeah, history's written with the winners' semen and all that jazz, but don't underestimate conscription.

IIRC Finland was required by its treaty to defend its borders on all sides, as the Soviets feared Finland being the staging ground for a NATO invasion, and there were Soviet troops stationed on the border to "assist" Finland in repelling any sort of NATO invasion.

So it's not entirely out of left field though it's incredibly unlikely that it'd happen. Russian wasn't entirely unsympathetic to Finland's position being caught between two powers.

>>32179404
How/why did they do that with their mags? It looks like you'd still have to unclip it and it seems like it'd rattle a lot.

>>32181799
>BTFO the opposition
>What is Midway
>What is Kursk
>What are a fuck ton more you could read about in a history book.

You wouldn't happen to be William Lind would you? You're approaching peak Wehraboo.

>>32181888

>World War II started in 1941

So the entirety of your knowledge of military history is based on what you read in your middle school history textbook?

>>32181799
Not really? The U.S. was wrecking the Shit out of Japan all by itself. American Naval and Air power was fucking Japan up without help.

You think the U.S. couldn't have taken mainland Japan?

>>32181911
Not hardly. Citing German Panzers beating Polish cavalry or the rapid capitulation of the French is all well and good, but it isn't correct to say that they were having their way with the Allied powers at any point in the war. It wasn't as if the Allies were underdogs, either.

>>32181947
>German Panzers beating Polish cavalry

The fact that you think this actually happened illustrates that you know absolutely nothing about the German invasion of Poland or France. Apparently you think those weren't real victories because the Polish and French armies didn't exist, or didn't fight back, or something? I would mention the Japanese conquests in Manchuria, China, and Indonesia but you probably wouldn't even know what I'm talking about.

>>32182018
>Thinking that that's what I think

Those absolutely were real victories, and Germany absolutely did an excellent job of carrying out its war initially, and I'm well aware of how the Japanese performed admirably in their campaigns in Asia. But it's fucking retarded to say what you said here >>32181799. Once the British rallied, the Russians got their shit together, and Japan punched the sleeping gorilla that was the US neither the Japanese nor the Germans can be said to have btfo'd anyone. And Axis technological superiority is a meme for everything except rocketry.

>>32182094
*anyone past that point

>>32181857
They're panzer yaegers. They storm in with armored vehicles. Where ever they go, they make noise.
The Finnish steel AK mags had these folding loops at the bottom just for such actions.

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>>32181799
kill yourself wehraboo

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>>32182188
>mad yank fatass this butt-devastated of literal masterrace demolishing burger culture in every possible way
>"Imma real warrior! I swear! I pay IRA my NEET bucks twice a year!"
t: (You=

>>32182259
>literal masterrace demolishing burger culture in every possible way

You know they lost, right?

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>>32182288
And you think Muricans had jack shit to do with that?

>>32180393

I don't think the fins would mind kicking Swedish arse.

They would mind sharing a trench with the Ruskies, especially the commie ones.

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>sovkor gone

EVERY
SINGLE
PATCH
NERFS
REDFOR

>>32182349
wtf I hate america now

>>32182259
>>32182349
Saving your posts for future cringe threads.

nazi faggots got stomped then their women got raped by slavs. and they all deserved it

>>32182259
edgy underrage kid detected.

mods ban this retard

>>32182094
Hell, they were behind in rocketry in practice. In theory they were ahead, but the German industry had neither the material nor the funds to put these theories to the test.

Didn't help that a lot of Germany's best and brightest happened to be Jews who high tailed it back in the 30s for America.

>>32182428

this tbqh famalam
My Airborne decks suffer without the H-5 and the Yukjungdae

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>>32182259
>literal masterrace

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>>32183041
yes goy! with jews you win! now back to that genderstudies class!

>>32182867
unironically enlighten me as to how the Germans were behind in rocketry.

>>32183088
back to your echo chamber and containment board /pol/

faggot.

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>>32181596
Yugo is amazing.

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>no bulgaria, hungary and romania

I don't care that they don't have many unique units, REDFOR needs all the help it can get

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR-pd23lklk&feature=youtu.be

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>Under the pact, Finland was obliged to resist armed attacks by "Germany or its allies" (in reality interpreted as the United States and allies) against Finland, or against the Soviet Union through Finland. If necessary, Finland was to ask for Soviet military aid to do so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948

Quite realistic if someone tried to attack USSR through Finland.

>>32180135
>Also, Iran REDFOR when?
Literally never. We will have the militaries of Luxembourg, Ireland, and that gay little island between Sweden & Finland before we get anything actually interesting like Egypt


Also Finland is only red because putting Western nations on red is the only way to get fags to play red

>>32185019
Insider here, in 2014 I know they were talking about a 1950s-1980s Israell-Syria-Egypt Wargame.

Now with Israel 1970s+ in as a DLC, I think we will see Egypt and Syria, MAYBE Iran and Iraq.

>>32179404
>Literal ak
>literal guerilla warfare
The literal finnish army was literally equipped with literally old literal equipment that literally would have been literally obsolete compared to literally the ussrs literal relative modern literal equipment. Do you literally understand what i'm literally writing literally now?

>>32185121
Yes. Finland has a Litoral Navy.

>>32185097

USAF fixed fucking when?

>>32185296
Working as intended, though Rafael is being buffed to 3,000kmps with 20 lasers.

>>32181911
>World War II started in 1941

If you want to get technical, yes it did. Before 1941, there was the Sino-Japanese War, and the European War (I don't think they even named it yet, I cannot find one anyway). It only became a World War when both Russia and the US got involved in 1941.

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Do you have cute east germans?

>>32186128
You're forgetting north africa

>>32186203
North Africa was part of the European war, the countries fighting there were the same countries fighting in Europe.

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>>32186280

>>32186128
Lmao

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>>32186128

>>32184996
This.

Finland was by all means a third world country stuck between the two worlds.
They were to be neutral at all costs just like Swiss would shot your ass up if you tried passing a plane over their land.

The USSR ended up getting cockish with them in the latter stages of the Cold War and that's when they started balancing it by flinging them a finger and helping NATO.

>finland gets more advanced french LAW than france

wew

>>32186309
>some of those countries don't even contribute until 1941 or 1942

>>32186338
>>32186346
>two wars on opposite sides of the world with no common allies or enemies means they're one big war

>>32186429
But they declared war you dumb fucking faggot

>>32186128
Now THAT is an US centric statement.
I have never met one that knows that the only real contributions the americans made during the war was industrial production, bombing civilians and slapin the jap.

>>32186631
How is it US centric? The Allies weren't fighting in Asia or the Pacific in 1939/1940, more than half the world wasn't part of the war. By 1941 when the US and Russia joined, that brought more of the world into the war. The entirety of the Pacific and a good part of Asia became a warzone.

>>32186478
>1939/1940 Japan is at war with the US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Philippines, Dutch...
Really faggot? Two separate wars does not make a world war, in 1941 when Japan went all banzai up in the Pacific, that merged the wars into one, making it a world war.

>>32179089
Laughable.

>>32186775

>>32186203
>>32186203
>>32186203
>>32186203

I wasn't talking about japan you iliterate fag

>>32179089
let me put it this way
if you suggest this to any Finn, you stand a small but non-zero chance to be flayed alive
there are no Finns for which this is not true, every new Finn you would talk to would be another roll of the dice
good luck

>>32179309
Problem is that if Finland is in play, Sweden is in play, which in turns means that the scandinavia is in play. Not to mention that during the Cold War, Sweden actually was a force to be reckoned with and was also the weight that tipped the scales in a war in northern europe (baltic area).

Which is exactly what Finland knew, and they used it to gain concessions from the USSR. Not to mention that Sweden actually had guarantees that the US would intervene in the case of "Soviet aggression" which most likely would be applicable here (not sure if Finland had similar guarantees).

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>>32186128
yeah, no, burgerman

>>32180505
Is there enough shit in the Finland army of that time to make them exciting enough to warrant playing?

>>32182188
>>32182188
Only when you accept that Nationalistic Socialism is the best economy ever made :^)

>>32186865
>a bunch of European countries, in a war against European countries, fighting only a few hundred miles away from Europe
>not a European war

K.

>>32179089
Finns would take it to the streets with broken bottles just for the chance of shanking Russian soldiers.

>>32187022

See
>>32186900

>try out finland
>plays like a single scandi nation does on Blu

They don't have anything that makes Redfor stronger, unlike yugos. Unless the bizarre polish alliance option can produce anything, but poles don't lack anything the fins have besides good recon and the f18.

>>32187181
finns get better LAW And ATGM options.
apparently twardy is also worse than the finn t72

Finland pursued a policy of appeasement during the cold war, following their defeat in the continuation war. This humiliating appeasing behavior was termed "Finlandization". They would've preferred to remain neutral during WW3, basically no chance they would voluntarily join the Warsaw Pact, but they might expediently surrender to the Soviets, even allow occupation without surrender. After a collaborationist government is set up, they might be able to get a not insignificant number of volunteers, but finland wouldn't contribute much at all to the war.

>>32186192
How get

>>32186775
Russia joined in 1939 when they occupied poland.

Not impossible but not likely either. Most probably they would stay neutral. Though you had plenty of commies in Finland (even though they weren't necessarily pro-Soviet).
Kekkonen was a Soviet favorite and they recieved Soviet military tech.
And pro-tip, for retards who think memes are real life, Finns don't really suffer from some fanatic anti-Russian hysteria. Few kids being edgy on internet =/= all Finns.

>>32185019
>gay little island between Sweden & Finland

I literally won't play the game until we get a Åland nation pack. Preferably with Iceland as a coalition nation

Stealth mig29k for ussr when?

>>32181729
and every other country turned to the draft since they couldnt do shit.

conscription preserves military tradition and improves everyones willingness to fight.
the alternative are welfare queens thats barely better than a conscript at the end of his duty and costs shittonnes more.

>>32187181
>poles don't lack anything the fins have
Exept the 120pt tank with 23AP, nice transport options and nice MGs on their infantry.

>>32181585
>I know nothing about the finish winter war and nothing about war in general